Utopia Talk / Politics / Record lowest crime rate

Paramount Member	Tue Jun 19 13:14:10 Germany records lowest crime rate since 1992 By ESTHER KING 5/8/18, 1:11 PM CET “The number of crimes committed in Germany is the lowest since 1992,” Interior Minister Horst Seehofer announced at a presentation of 2017 police crime statistics in Berlin. “The frequency of fewer than 7,000 cases for every 100,000 inhabitants is unprecedented, even in a 30-year comparison.” Overall, the number of politically motivated crimes fell by 4.9 percent in 2017, after increases in the last four years. http://www...-crime-rate-lowest-since-1992/ Donald J. Duck @realDonaldTrump ”The people of Germany are turning against their leadership as migration is rocking the already tenuous Berlin coalition. Crime in Germany is way up. Big mistake made all over Europe in allowing millions of people in who have so strongly and violently changed their culture!” 3:02 em · 18 juni 2018 http://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1008696508697513985?s=21
Hot Rod Revved Up	Tue Jun 19 13:26:25 So, what exactly does that mean? Obviously ly you are speaking of %. Am I right? If so, admitting 1,000,000 new people into Germany creates an additional 70,000 crimes, but the percentage is indeed lower.
Paramount Member	Tue Jun 19 14:26:23 ”So, what exactly does that mean?” It means that even though Germany has welcomed 1 million refugees, crime has decreased, and the crime rate is now at record low levels.
Sam Adams Member	Tue Jun 19 15:09:27 Possibly a result of germanys increasing deportations? https://www.google.com/amp/amp.dw.com/en/germany-deports-more-rejected-afghan-asylum-seekers/a-42668751
Rugian Member	Tue Jun 19 15:11:54 Who did they put in charge of compiling the stats, Bill Rawls?
hood Member	Tue Jun 19 15:13:41 You mean Wilhelm Rahls?
Sam Adams Member	Tue Jun 19 15:26:18 Probably the same "statistician" who graduated from a hbc with a degree in african dance therapy and then got a job with huffpo? http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw0uFATW8AEv9F7.jpg
Daemon Member	Tue Jun 19 15:52:43 Trump is a well known serial liar, it's no surprise that he lies about Germany, too. Just fuck him. Anyway: homicide rate http://en....s_by_intentional_homicide_rate Germany 0.88 USA 5.35
patom Member	Tue Jun 19 16:17:21 Hot Rod, it means that as usual you ate up whatever the Twitterman said as Gospel. It doesn't matter that he is lying as usual. You have your mind made up that up is down and east is west.
Rugian Member	Tue Jun 19 16:42:08 I'm just waiting for jergul to come in here and claim that Merkel is incentivized to make up lies about the crime figures in an effort to keep her government afloat. Of course, this time I'll be on jerguls side, since that is also Trump's side.
Sam Adams Member	Tue Jun 19 17:25:16 Anyway: homicide rate Germany 0.88 USA 5.35 How odd %subsaharan africans Germany 0.5 Usa 13
Wrath of Orion Member	Tue Jun 19 19:46:51 homicide rate Germany 0.88 USA 5.35 How odd guns per capita Germany 30.3 USA 101
Hot Rod Revved Up	Tue Jun 19 20:58:07 You guys still don't get it.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Jun 19 21:27:42 that Trump makes shit up constantly? yeah, we get it
Hot Rod Revved Up	Tue Jun 19 22:48:15 No. When you add 1,000,000 persons to your population then you add 70,00 crimes.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Tue Jun 19 22:49:03 poop 70,000 crimes.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Jun 19 23:20:01 you seem to be arguing that Trump may be right if you don't go by percentage... which would be stupid to do... however Trump also tweeted about percentage: "Crime in Germany is up 10% plus (officials do not want to report these crimes) since migrants were accepted. Others countries are even worse. Be smart America!" citing nothing as usual
smart dude Member	Wed Jun 20 01:21:08 What retarded point is Rod trying to make? Yes, it's a percentage. Yes there are more crimes, but the percentage is lower. What's your point? What don't we "get?"
Hot Rod Revved Up	Wed Jun 20 05:14:06 Just that there is more crime, not less.
Cold Rod Member	Wed Jun 20 05:50:25 Remember Hot Rod is great at maths. "1000 % discount."
Wrath of Orion Member	Wed Jun 20 08:14:59 Hack Rod is also great at being a racist.
Sam Adams Member	Wed Jun 20 09:46:16 Woo why does switzerland have such a low murder rate despite having shitloads of guns too?
smart dude Member	Wed Jun 20 10:07:11 "Just that there is more crime, not less." What's your point? Crime rate (a percentage) determines an individual's likelihood of being the victim of a crime. It's the relevant statistic. Would you rather live in a 100 population town with 20 murders a year or a 1 million population city with 50 murders a year? Use your head. Not sure what your point is. Uh, population is increasing? Durrr...
Wrath of Orion Member	Wed Jun 20 11:28:16 "Woo why does switzerland have such a low murder rate despite having shitloads of guns too?" I see you're saying that correlation does not necessarily equal causation. Thanks, I agree.
Daemon Member	Wed Jun 20 11:29:21 Hot Rod "Just that there is more crime, not less." No, Trump is wrong. http://www...-crime-rate-lowest-since-1992/ "The new figures show a drop in crime of 5.1 percent over the previous year, with 5.76 million crimes reported." You should have learnt by now that Trump is a fucking liar and that you can't believe him anything before you have checked it for yourself.
Sam Adams Member	Wed Jun 20 11:50:07 Except there is clearly no correlation between gun ownership and murder rate woo.
Wrath of Orion Member	Wed Jun 20 12:18:21 It's easy to show a correlation depending on what data you use and how you manipulate it. You're fond of doing the same thing regarding race statistics, so you should be familiar with that. That was fun, have a good day!
Sam Adams Member	Wed Jun 20 12:51:37 Yes woo, racial crime correlations are obviously fake and based only on "manipulations". Rofldumb.
Nekran Member	Wed Jun 20 22:21:49 "Woo why does switzerland have such a low murder rate despite having shitloads of guns too?" Seems to follow the trend, actually? :D homicide rate Switzerland 0.50 Germany 0.88 USA 5.35 guns per capita Switzerland 24.45 Germany 30.3 USA 101
Sam Adams Member	Thu Jun 21 10:12:18 I see 50 for switzerland.
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