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Hot Rod
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Fri Jun 22 03:10:48 2018

Do u?


tumbleweed
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Fri Jun 22 03:48:24 2018
Melanie hates her husband
Hot Rod
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Fri Jun 22 03:57:30 2018

Wrong.

tumbleweed
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Fri Jun 22 04:27:46 2018
he didn't want her to go down to see the kids he's traumatizing

she said 'fuck you, asshole, i do what i want'

he said 'you'll make me look bad'

she said 'i really don't care'

true story... possibly
tumbleweed
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Fri Jun 22 04:34:32 2018
more plausible than the idiot child's nonsensical tweet:


"“I REALLY DON’T CARE, DO U?” written on the back of Melania’s jacket, refers to the Fake News Media. Melania has learned how dishonest they are, and she truly no longer cares!"
Hot Rod
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Fri Jun 22 04:36:00 2018

^^^^^ - Sicko Big Time.


You are a million times worse a human being than you think Trump is.

That puts you down somewhere around where the whale shit lands.

Cold Rod
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Fri Jun 22 04:49:01 2018
Pedo rod can't judge. Let's review what he said about renzo's niece shall we?
obaminated
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Fri Jun 22 08:22:48 2018
"he didn't want her to go down to see the kids he's traumatizing

she said 'fuck you, asshole, i do what i want'

he said 'you'll make me look bad'

she said 'i really don't care'

true story... possibly "

Nope, that was clearly a choreographed photo op to illustrate that it isnt as bad as libtards want it to be. Kids get their own rooms, they are cared for and they arent being starved. Illegal immigrants are using their kids are shields, they are the ones to blame for their shitty behavior. Be an adult and recognize it, or just flatly admit you want open borders, because we either have immigration laws are we dont. The libtards are doing everything but admitting they want open borders.
Paramount
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Fri Jun 22 08:29:21 2018
Melania got Trump to backtrack on the refugees. So she was trying to say that she doesn’t care if America gets flooded by refugees.
tumbleweed
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Fri Jun 22 08:33:39 2018
if you want to suggest she's a horrible piece of shit like her husband that's your right, i am giving her the benefit of the doubt
tumbleweed
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Fri Jun 22 08:52:48 2018
@mt, what if Obama had seized control of the country as HR expected and you had fled to Canada with your hypothetical 6-year-old daughter to escape the death panels... would you consider it just for them to seize your kid and give her to strangers for months? do you think she'd be fine as long as she was fed?

there are ways to keep the family together and still deport... plus that is the logical and moral thing to do
obaminated
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Fri Jun 22 08:57:27 2018
"what if Obama had seized control of the country as HR expected and you had fled to Canada with your hypothetical 6-year-old daughter to escape the death panels... would you consider it just for them to seize your kid and give her to strangers for months? do you think she'd be fine as long as she was fed?"

So mexicans are fleeing totalitarian states? Use your brain and logic.


"there are ways to keep the family together and still deport... plus that is the logical and moral thing to do"

Yes, lets put kids into jails to keep them with their law-breaking parents, in no way is that stupid.

Hot Rod
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Fri Jun 22 10:41:04 2018

tumbleweed, do you honestly and truly believe that if a citizen of The United States breaks the law and goes to prison, do you really believe his kids should be locked up with that parent?


Do you?

Daemon
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Fri Jun 22 11:02:00 2018
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QveJv7V4OZI

I don't care (he don't care)
I don't care (he don't care)
I don't care (he don't care)
About this world
I don't care (he don't care)
About that girl



Fuck Trump, fuck his wife and breed, fuck the immigrants, fuck all of you, I don't care.
American Democrat
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Fri Jun 22 12:49:46 2018
Oh look, interesting that the main culprits are using false equivalency arguments, again. Which isn't the point.

I am not sure either if they think repeating the same thing over again will stick, or it's a talking point they can't let go because they cannot formulate a strong argument?
mexicantardnado
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Fri Jun 22 13:40:21 2018
Duuuur abortion dirrrr morally wrong duuur durrrr separating families duuur morally good duuuurrrr
tumbleweed
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Fri Jun 22 17:52:25 2018
a) these aren't all mexicans
b) the crime of border crossing is a misdemeanor
c) you don't have to jail them to get them to show up in court
Hot Rod
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Fri Jun 22 19:05:18 2018

tw, why don't you answer my question?

American Democrat
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Fri Jun 22 19:12:34 2018
That same question you asked in the other thread that was addressed while you also avoided answering questions as well?

You are aware these situations are inherently different right?
hood
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Fri Jun 22 19:13:16 2018
People generally don't address retardation in question form.
Forwyn
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Fri Jun 22 20:29:42 2018
"c) you don't have to jail them to get them to show up in court"

Lol. Turn loose illegal immigrants with a summons and wait for them to show up.
American Democrat
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Fri Jun 22 20:33:29 2018
His point that monitoring systems that are in place have show positive results in appearing in court.

If you care to dispute it. I will be happy to show you the contrary of your conclusions.

Is it a ideal method? Not certaintly. But practical and more humanely versus separating families with this current new practice.
tumbleweed
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Fri Jun 22 20:44:15 2018
ankle monitoring is a couple dollars a day
tumbleweed
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Fri Jun 22 20:55:34 2018
Trump holding an event with families of people killed by illegals to remind everyone that those separated families are here to murder your loved ones


Forwyn
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Fri Jun 22 21:02:37 2018
"separating families"
"separated families"

Muh children separated from human traffickers and coyotes
Forwyn
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Fri Jun 22 21:05:34 2018
"His point that monitoring systems that are in place have show positive results in appearing in court."

Don't these typically involve accused with a place of residence? Where do you suggest these people stay? Perhaps panhandling from a highway overpass would be preferable?
Cthulhu
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Fri Jun 22 21:11:53 2018
Im not sure what the word care means. Ive had it explained, but it doesnt make sense.
tumbleweed
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Fri Jun 22 21:20:21 2018
Nielsen admitted 2000 separated from families... that's not including traffickers

"Where do you suggest these people stay?"
wherever they planned to go... live under a bridge if they want
Forwyn
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Fri Jun 22 21:29:54 2018
Right, less than 20%, 2000 is barely a statistical blip.

"live under a bridge if they want"

Or they can wait three weeks for a court date, the first two days of which are in shitty temporary holding facilities. Why do people care so much about this, exactly?
tumbleweed
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Fri Jun 22 21:34:10 2018
it takes a lot longer than 3 weeks to process

if it was 3 weeks, there wouldn't be a zero assumption of fitting in under the Flores ruling of 20 days
Hot Rod
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Fri Jun 22 22:30:56 2018

tw, why don't you answer my question?

tumbleweed
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Fri Jun 22 22:39:21 2018
i've never said anything about US citizens

and i would think you would prefer keeping the kids with the parents... otherwise they will go off into foster care and become MS-13 gang members while the parents get deported
Forwyn
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Fri Jun 22 22:41:53 2018
"if it was 3 weeks, there wouldn't be a zero assumption of fitting in under the Flores ruling of 20 days"

Yes, this statement would be true prior to 1997, when the agreement was penned.
tumbleweed
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Fri Jun 22 22:50:48 2018
you'll have to explain yourself

the whole reason the Trump admin claims they have to separate the children is because of the Flores settlement's 20 day limit on detaining children w/ the parents

(& Flores specifically noted in the recent E.O. for Sessions to try to get it changed)
Hot Rod
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Fri Jun 22 22:51:36 2018

If the parents are deported the kids go with them.

If the parents go to prison your idea of making the kids stay with the parents is the craziest idea that you have ever come up with.

If the parents were deported and they come back again it is an automatic five-year sentence. Sounds like a bit more than a misdemeanor to me.


I will never understand how you liberals think it is better for the kids to spend five years in a prison cell with their parents is insane.

Hot Rod
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Fri Jun 22 22:53:20 2018

It would be better if the kids were with a relative or even a foster home don't you think?



tumbleweed
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Fri Jun 22 23:01:59 2018
"If the parents are deported the kids go with them."

false... the hazards of separating them then combining them with 'unaccompanied' children
tumbleweed
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Fri Jun 22 23:15:48 2018

Trump autographed the photos of the dead victims of criminal illegals at that event today... (that was also peppered w/ 'main stream' media hate)

so weird
Hot Rod
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Fri Jun 22 23:42:19 2018

There would be no hatred of illegals if they stayed home.

tumbleweed
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Sat Jun 23 00:13:35 2018
there would be less hatred if Trump stopped associating immigrants with MS-13 & rapists/murderers

this event today was disgusting... emphasizing 'these people were -permanently- separated from their family members'... as if we're supposed to think, 'oh well, then fine, abuse immigrants however you want'...

good job taking advantage of their grief
Cthulhu
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Sat Jun 23 00:17:33 2018
Trump hates Mexicans
Cause the pool guy fucked his wife
Let them rot to death
Hot Rod
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Sat Jun 23 05:25:52 2018

I have never seen such ignorance before.

Not even from you guys.

Paramount
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Sat Jun 23 13:09:50 2018
”There would be no hatred of illegals if they stayed home.”


To be fair though, didn’t some of those states belong to the Mexicans earlier? So they are only returning home from the exodus to the lands that is theirs.
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