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Utopia Talk / Politics / Britain doesnt have mass shootings
Sam Adams
Member
Tue Jul 03 11:34:13
Lol@seb. 8 babies. I guess its so much better that they died without gun use. You totally have the moral high ground to use at those babies funerals.

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murder
Member
Tue Jul 03 12:20:21

If those babies had guns ...
Seb
Member
Tue Jul 03 13:36:16
Sam:

What, exactly, is your point?

I don't think anyone ever claimed controlling guns would eliminate crimes that are not committed with and do not involve guns.

Or are you suggesting that this individual, not having access to a gun, embarked on a multi year plan to get medical qualifications and access to neonatal care to kill people instead? And thus suggesting that it demonstrates how controling guns does not prevent murder?

Because if you are I'd suggest that almost comically highlights how much harder it is for people to commit mass murders with gun control, highlighting it's efficacy, and perhaps explaining why our murder rates are so much lower than yours.


Hot Rod
Revved Up
Tue Jul 03 20:07:13

Harder?

Perhaps.

But obviously, it can be done.

earthpig
GTFO HOer
Wed Jul 04 00:31:33
TFW not having the death penalty is a violation of the public's trust.
Seb
Member
Wed Jul 04 02:03:48
Hot rod:

Again, not sure what your point is. Laws against murder don't make murder impossible either.
Seb
Member
Wed Jul 04 02:07:41
Ep:

She's been arrested. Not clear if she will be charged (i.e. what level of evidence there is against her).
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Wed Jul 04 03:05:26
"TFW not having the death penalty is a violation of the public's trust."

It depends, should justice should be primarily about retribution or restitution (restorative)? There is a balance to be found between those principles, no doubt. However such a balance can not be achieved with capital punishment since dead people can not restore anything. You may argue that it does for you personally, and of course the judiciary should take into account that the punishment is part of the restorative act, but it shouldn't be the only concern.
murder
Member
Thu Jul 05 01:41:32
The only concern should be keeping society safe from monsters.
smart dude
Member
Thu Jul 05 02:35:45
They might have grown up to be Hitler. Who are we to judge?
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