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tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Jul 09 16:01:54
will it be Kavanaugh, Kethledge, Kang or Kodo?

each finalist hand-picked by anti-abortion conservative groups... i imagine Fox News has the same script written for whomever just needs to insert the name

i predict Kang or Kodo (aka Hardiman & Barrett) depending if he goes with his childish 'central casting' method of choosing, or if he goes w/ the woman to try to make them hate him less


tune in to American Ninja Warrior or the Bachorlette to find out!... cause America is trash

ratings will be hyuge!
Dukhat
Member
Mon Jul 09 18:14:15
Still a registered a Republican but if I wouldn't blame the dems if they pack the courts in 2020.

Have to control redistricting. A retarded piece of shit that lost the popular vote by 3 million votes should not have the power to determine a majority on the supreme court for 25 years. Period.
obaminated
Member
Mon Jul 09 18:19:32
Yes, we should be controlled by major city shitholes and their urban zombie populations.
hood
Member
Mon Jul 09 18:20:45
Those major city shitholes that are the vast, vast majority of productivity in the country?
kargen
Member
Mon Jul 09 18:31:47
The vast vast majority would have to resort to eating each other and/or their own turds if they were left to their own.
obaminated
Member
Mon Jul 09 18:55:37
Your attitude and short sighted-ness is why the founding fathers created the electoral system, Hood. They understood all voices needed to be heard and not just the ones who made money, but the ones who farmed and made products which would undoubtedly be more sparse than money counters and ditch diggers in populated cities.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Mon Jul 09 19:26:19

My pick is Cavenaugh. President Trump will be impressed that he worked his way through college.

That is assuming that everyone is correct about everyone on the list is relatively similar in their philosophies on the law.

Borthas
Member
Mon Jul 09 19:26:20
It must have taken quite a while for Putin to come up with that list for Trump.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Mon Jul 09 19:41:14

Ther is a special unit in The White House that comes up with these lists. It was mentioned earlier but I didn't catch its name.

Hot Rod
Revved Up
Mon Jul 09 19:53:12
*-There
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Mon Jul 09 19:59:25

They not only track the nine justices but also, I assume, all of the federal judges and their decisions.

obaminated
Member
Mon Jul 09 20:03:23
Now we just need ginsberg to die for liberals to start jumping off bridges
hood
Member
Mon Jul 09 20:06:26
"Your attitude and short sighted-ness is why the founding fathers created the electoral system, Hood."

No, they created the system to protect from stupidity winning the day. The theory was that by having representatives actually doing the voting, a horrible, populist candidate could be kept away via those serving in the EC.

Clearly the system failed.


And let's be fucking real for a moment:
- the r/d split is not 50/50, it's more like 35/30, with another 30 neutral and another 5 3rd party. This idea that you've got half of the country packed in large cities all voting D is ridiculous.
- president is but one fucking job within the federal government. Theoretically, the office would be talking to everyone, not just their own party.
- the Senate exists specifically for the issues you brought up. It allows the minority states a place of equal standing.
- if a certain not-to-be-named party (of which everyone could guess........) going full retard on team ball and completely abandoning the idea of compromise, having a president from the opposite party would generally not be a big deal. It would mean the minority party had to compromise a little more, but they'd still have their voices heard and opinions considered.


Literally the only reason Rs are playing up the EC is because they won. You can be 100% positive that if votes were reversed, with Trump winning 65/62 pop but losing the EC, they'd be in an uproar over it and Trump would have been calling the election a scam, stolen, everything he could think of.

With the irony here being that the Republicans legit benefited from election tampering and it likely won them the presidency.
Rugian
Member
Mon Jul 09 20:08:28
And it's Kavanaugh.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Mon Jul 09 20:17:19

"Now we just need ginsberg to die for liberals to start jumping off bridges"


I would just as soon she retire and enjoy the next 20 years of her life.

obaminated
Member
Mon Jul 09 20:18:47
"Election tampering" ... ah, the desperate phrase of a politically defeated voter.
Turtle Crawler
Admin
Mon Jul 09 20:22:20
Trump came through again. #winning.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Mon Jul 09 20:22:42

I would hardly call myself a defeated voter if that is what you are implying.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Jul 09 20:24:48
Kavanaugh wrote about how a sitting president shouldn't be indicted so that probably clinched it
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Mon Jul 09 20:24:57

tumbleweed, did you notice?

No notes, no whatchacallits.

hood
Member
Mon Jul 09 20:33:26
Mt: right, so all of the evidence and literal warrants for arrest over it are fake?
obaminated
Member
Mon Jul 09 20:38:54
The charge was the trump campaign colluded with the russians to win the election, that never happened.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Mon Jul 09 20:41:34

And it was not even a crime.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Jul 09 20:42:15
Trump has once again heroically selected a name that conservatives will cheer... off a provided list of names any of which conservatives would cheer... no other Republican could achieve such a feat!
hood
Member
Mon Jul 09 20:42:51
That is not what I said, retard. I said election tampering. Election tampering 100%, with out a doubt, happened. That is separate but related to Mueller's investigation of the Trump campaign.
delude
Member
Mon Jul 09 20:45:10
"The charge was the trump campaign colluded with the russians to win the election, that never happened. "

Clearly you still fail to grasp the full understanding of the scope of the investigation. But you are retarded....so you're forgiven.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Mon Jul 09 20:46:33

What is the scope of the investigation?

I guess I missed it too.

delude
Member
Mon Jul 09 20:50:31
of course you did...
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Mon Jul 09 20:52:03

So what is it deluded?

You brought it up.

delude
Member
Mon Jul 09 20:54:06
Actually no you pedophile, the topic was brought up by another poster. Perhaps take your stupid pedophile brain and see who original brought it up and gave their conclusion. Go ahead pedophile, go review the thread.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Jul 09 20:57:09
@HR, if you were suggesting no teleprompter, you were wrong... again

there has never once been a time when Trump had to recall factual information when he wasn't reading one
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Mon Jul 09 21:00:34

deluded - Clearly you still fail to grasp the full understanding of the scope of the investigation.


You are clearly stating there that there was a criminal aspect to the investigation.

It was you, indeed, that brought up the criminal aspect.



No one else is aware of any criminality involved so I am asking you.

Hot Rod
Revved Up
Mon Jul 09 21:01:36

I didn't see it.

Dukhat
Member
Mon Jul 09 21:05:11
Another corporatist pro-oligarchy windbag that will be on the wrong side of every issue but will get the support of conservatives: because religous nutters only care about abortion and cuckservatives don’t know anything other than what breitbart tells them.

Dems will probably have 12 years from 2020 on. Increase to 11 justices and be done with it. Without gerrymandering, Republicans will be a permanent minority.
delude
Member
Mon Jul 09 21:06:40
"You are clearly stating there that there was a criminal aspect to the investigation."

I clearly stated? This is a known fact that this is a criminal investigate. Perhaps you've forgotten that there have been people indicted, charged, and a conviction?

"It was you, indeed, that brought up the criminal aspect. "

See, this is funny because you think you are being clever. You're not and you will never will be. History has shown that you are a complete moron.

Again, it is a known fact that this investigation was criminal. So there is no "you brought it up" it is already a known fact. Seemingly a fact that you apparently still to this day haven't figurd out.

"No one else is aware of any criminality involved so I am asking you. "

YEs, others are aware, they discussed an aspect of it. It is you that is declaring it and again it is you that is being a moron. But no one can help you with that. I know what possibly can.... your death.


delude
Member
Mon Jul 09 21:07:37
"I didn't see it."

Of course you didn't.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Mon Jul 09 21:15:56

"Perhaps you've forgotten that there have been people indicted, charged, and a conviction?"

None of that had anything to do with the election.



You -- "It was you, indeed, that brought up the criminal aspect."


me -- "What is the scope of the investigation?

I guess I missed it too."

I said nothing about 'criminal'. You said there was more to it besides collusion and I said 'I missed it'.


So what was his complete mandate or are you just playing BMOC and are just pulling something out of your ass that has no relevance?


Hot Rod
Revved Up
Mon Jul 09 21:17:29

"YEs, others are aware, they discussed an aspect of it."


Who, when, where?

hood
Member
Mon Jul 09 21:19:07
The election tampering, for whoever cares:

http://www...g-to-boost-trump-idUSKCN1G022U

Precisely as I stated: the election was tampered with by russians. Trump benefiting from these campaigns is pretty much uncontested; only degree is argued.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Mon Jul 09 21:22:29

Wass Mueller's mandate about collusion or tampering?

How about ***zero*** degrees?

Hot Rod
Revved Up
Mon Jul 09 21:23:28
*-was
delude
Member
Mon Jul 09 21:24:03
"None of that had anything to do with the election."

LOL, this goes back to my original statement;
"Clearly you still fail to grasp the full understanding of the scope of the investigation. "

Good job moron.

"So what was his complete mandate or are you just playing BMOC and are just pulling something out of your ass that has no relevance? "

You are so unbelievably dumb. You are aware that hood and mtard were debating it right? But due to your piss poor comprehension, deductive, and inductive reasoning skills it is no surprise that we are here at this climax as to why you cannot figure out that this investigation is criminal.

I mean it is laughable because you still claim "derp has nothing to do with election." Which is quite telling that you and with no surprise, do not understand fully the scope of the investigation or really how investigations work.

But go ahead, pedophile. Continue your idiocy that it can be mocked.

http://en....l_investigation_(2017–present)

Even after you read it, you're still going to say something completely stupid.

You are also probably of the mindset that our intel agencies, and the house and senate are liars for declaring that Russian did interfere in our elections. "But, but, Trump said its fake so therefore its fake."

You really need to fall down some stairs.
delude
Member
Mon Jul 09 21:24:55
"Who, when, where? "

LOL, you're such a moron.
Memory Lane
Member
Mon Jul 09 21:28:08
I remember Hot Rod is still an active member of the "Up Axis of Retards."

I drink and remember things.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Mon Jul 09 21:51:47

"The Deputy Attorney General, Rod Rosenstein, appointed Mueller, a former Director of the FBI, to serve as Special Counsel for the United States Department of Justice (DOJ) in May 2017. The reference for the investigation is to examine Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections, including exploring any links or coordination between Donald Trump's 2016 presidential campaign and the Russian government, "and any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation",[23] and any other matters within the scope of 28 CFR 600.4 – Jurisdiction.[24]"


There now, was that so hard.

So the investigation includes, "links or coordination between Donald Trump's 2016 presidential campaign and the Russian government."

I had never seen the link that contained that paragraph nor have I seen anything official regarding, "links or coordination."


Now, don't you feel silly? Not only have you wasted a great deal of time over nothing but IMHO you have made yourself look foolish.


G'Night Mate. I have to get up early to go see the doctor.

delude
Member
Tue Jul 10 05:46:28
You never seen the "links" because 1) You and the rest of the world are not exactly privy to the inner workings of the investigations that entails the details and it is ridiculous to think that since it is isn't plastered all over the media, i.e. Fox News, does not mean there is a connection to have.

2) There were already some of Trump's members of his campaign associated and charged which is explained in the links provided. But I understand that you are the type that conveniently looks over such details because it does not fit your very skewed world.

I also understand you will claim that those people involved doesn't have anything to do with Trump. Where is it may have something to do with Trump and it does. What you are overlooking and this was pointed out months ago when this topic has been discussed before (you don't remember it) that it isn't necessarily declaring that Trump may have known about it which is a) One factor, but b) that he may have had people unknowingly to him that were associates of Putins and were confederates of Putin to interfere in the elections.

In fact this is not a far-fetched scenario. So you have a couple line of thoughts; Trump was completely unaware that his campaign was compromised and his insistence was he did not "collude" or illegally acquired foreign assistance.

OR

Trump wasn't aware but then discovered during the course they were associated and attempted to hide it.

OR

Trump was aware of who he hired and the connections they had and is doing everything he possibly can't to hide, it distance himself, or to stifle the investigation. (which much evidence that has been publicly share seemingly shows and that isn't definitive and more opinion based.)

Why though, because the public nor person outside of an investigation is necessarily ggoing to have all that classified information especially during an active investigation. That doesn't make since and it compromises the integrity of the investigation.

But I am glad that you and tard up there have your on conclusions where mostly everything is inconclusive. But let me guess, it's what Fox News tells you and you're shills.

But hey! I do appreciate you agreeing, there is a criminal investigation occurring. You know the one that you tried so hard to pretend that didn't exist because you're too lazy to look up things yourself and you manage this fare after over a year into the investigation to still not understand nor grasp the scope of it. But again, it is you, and you are the reigning bitch of complete and utter idiocy on this board.

Bye pedophile, hope you die.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Tue Jul 10 07:17:39

deluded - I also understand you will claim that those people involved doesn't have anything to do with Trump.


No. I stated that their charges to date had nothing to do with Trump's campaign.


I stopped reading there because you keep trying to say that Trump is guilty of a crime when, according to what we know so far, he was not.

I may lack knowledge, but you sir are just a plain liar.

Delude
Member
Tue Jul 10 07:20:38
You stop reading because you hate facts. You are being your typical self.
Cold Rod
Member
Tue Jul 10 07:21:40
Hot rod stopped reading because you didn't mention kids.
Forwyn
Member
Tue Jul 10 13:19:58
He's for bulk collection of metadata. Pass. Next.
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