Utopia Talk / Politics / FALSE ALARM: Trump misspoke

smart dude Member	Tue Jul 17 14:23:43 When Trump said he doesn't see why Russia would interfere with the election, he really meant he doesn't see why it WOULND'T be Russia. I can sleep easy tonight. Thank God! Look, people. Trump is a grandmaster 5D chess player. Let's say Putin has dirt on Trump. Okay. So, Trump pisses off Putin. What's Putin gonna do? Rat out Trump? What, and give up his leverage. Trump is an elite strategist who knows how to make deals. Go to Helsinki, a foreign country, and say a bunch of stupid shit. Then come back to the USA and claim he meant the exact OPPOSITE of what he really said. Checkmate, bitches! http://www...tin-summit-20180717-story.html
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Jul 17 14:30:44 it's not like he's pretended Putin wanted Hillary to win before, or anything... suggesting his original word is EXACTLY what he meant as is obvious let's also ignore everything else he said that was entirely about casting doubt on the intel agencies such total bullshit
Hot Rod Revved Up	Tue Jul 17 15:00:13 I cannot see why Russia *WOULD* interfere with our election I cannot see why Russia *Wouldn't* interfere with our election. Time to ponder.
hood Member	Tue Jul 17 15:04:23 How much winking and nudging do you think he gave Putin before this announcement? And either way, damage is done. The Russia propaganda machine will make this look like a win for Putin at home, while appeasing Trump's tard base just enough that fox can go full propaganda on it.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Jul 17 15:04:57 not much pondering needed he's denied Putin wanted him to win continuously (unfortunately his owner stabbed him in the back & admitted he wanted Trump to win) plus all comments surrounding it suggest he doesn't believe the intel community but of course you love when Trump lies to your face
Delude Member	Tue Jul 17 16:04:58 Lol hr eats trump's shit.
murder Member	Tue Jul 17 16:54:45 It's hard for Trump to speak clearly with Putin's dick in his mouth.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Jul 17 16:55:37 here's the transcript (question was 'do you believe Putin or the unanimous conclusion of intel agencies') http://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiVSZ0UX4AAXOQx.jpg good luck determining Trump supports our intel agencies conclusions
Delude Member	Tue Jul 17 18:18:44 The stable genius had to write in "there was no collusion" on his official statement defending admitting his acknowledgment that he believes Putin over his own intelligence agencies.
CrownRoyal Member	Tue Jul 17 18:23:21 "The stable genius had to write in "there was no collusion" " tecnically speaking, Donald wrote "there was no colusion", misspelling his catchphrase for the total win
CrownRoyal Member	Tue Jul 17 18:23:42 technically ftw
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Jul 17 19:15:50 and also editing out that meddlers will be brought to justice... can't let that happen of course
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Jul 17 21:35:48 Newt Gingrich's temporary spine dissolved quickly: "President Trump did right thing today in clarifying his comments in helsinki-reiterating his respect for and support of Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats and the intelligence community. President responded quickly and clearly once he realized he had used wrong language." ~N't Gingrich just replace the many paragraphs of words that came out of his mouth w/ "n't" & it's all fine
delude Member	Tue Jul 17 22:19:03 lol spineless, much like the "republicans" on this board masking as "libertarians."
The Sentinel Member	Wed Jul 18 07:18:30 Newt Gingrich is right. Trump did well to clarify about what he misspoke about. Just as Hillary clinton did when she misspoke about dodging sniper fire.
patom Member	Wed Jul 18 10:43:46 Now I know how the Russians felt when Nikita Khrushchev took his shoe off and beat it on a desk at the UN.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jul 18 10:53:42 Hillary isn't exactly relevant and giving us total proof that Trump puts his own interests ahead of the nation & national security is kind of a tons bigger deal than lying about sniper fire ...some of Trump's other 4,000 lies might be more comparable to that
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jul 18 11:05:09 they seem happy with their 'n't' defense Kellyanne Conway just gave it in a brief ambush by reporter they really think their fans are total idiots... & seem to be right
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jul 18 11:59:36 "I misspoke. I meant to say I “wouldn’t” be right here waiting for you." ~Richard Marx http://twitter.com/richardmarx/status/1019470147017293825 ...1989 reference :p
Paramount Member	Wed Jul 18 12:09:36 Misspoke? Lol. He is so patethic. Not sure if even his most hard core supporters believe that.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jul 18 12:19:35 as N't Gingrich shows not only do they believe it, they accept that it somehow nullifies every other thing he also said strange times indeed
patom Member	Wed Jul 18 15:08:38 Ain't no valley low Ain't no ocean deep enough to measure how low he will go to keep this country down.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jul 18 16:39:41 Trump managed to fuck up again today he was asked if Russia is still targeting the U.S., Trump looked at the reporter & said "No"... twice... then answered another question Sarah Sanders, to the rescue claims, he meant "No" (I don't want to take any questions)... even though he didn't say any of those words, has never done that (he just sits silently w/ his stupid resting face when not wanting to answer), and did answer another question afterward
murder Member	Wed Jul 18 17:06:55 It's no longer a matter of Trump not being hurt with his base if he shot some guy in the middle of 5th Avenue ... now he's shooting his own supporters and they don't care. This shitfest will go on for 8 years absent divine intervention.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jul 18 17:23:25 CBS finally managed to pin him down & w/ nowhere to escape he reluctantly decided he held Putin to be responsible ----- GLOR: "But you haven't condemned Putin, specifically. Do you hold him personally responsible?" TRUMP: "Well, I would, because he's in charge of the country. Just like I consider myself to be responsible for things that happen in this country. So certainly as the leader of a country you would have to hold him responsible, yes." ----- odd that didn't come up in interviews w/ Hannity & Tucker Carlson... & that he did not have any criticism of Putin whatsoever when standing next to him... or in tweets... also, he considers himself responsible for things that happen here? ha! only if positive, & whether he had any role or not
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jul 18 18:04:10 but he won't say Putin is lying... and thinks everyone in the intel community was corrupt & out to get him so we'll have a new round of nonsense from the 100% unfit idiot to discuss after this interview airs
murder Member	Wed Jul 18 18:48:10 You know he's going to reset right back to pretending that there was no interference/hacking, and that if there was it could have been anyone including some fatass in NJ, and if there was they were probably trying to help Hillary. Trump will not succumb to facts or evidence or reality.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jul 18 19:04:27 that's his pattern... says something completely unacceptable, adults make him read a fix, then he goes back to it later so we'll undoubtedly hear 'where is the server' within a week or so (which isn't even about collusion, but doubting any hacking occurred at all)
CrownRoyal Member	Wed Jul 18 20:57:11 White House weighing allowing Russian officials to question ex-U.S. ambassador, other Americans http://www...n-ex-u-s-ambassador-1531952371 maga and america first! Alpha male apparently means a submissive bitch for Donald
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jul 18 21:25:09 if Trump had his way we'd have a joint Russia/US team in charge of our cyber security, the sources and methods used to identify the Russian meddlers would be shared with Russian investigators, and we'd be handing over any Americans they wanted to question he supported all of those things that Putin suggested...
murder Member	Thu Jul 19 11:41:46 "maga and america first! Alpha male apparently means a submissive bitch for Donald" Trump must have really enjoyed their private meeting, because he already wants to do it again. Must have been the strong and powerful thrust of Putin's denial.
swordtail Anarchist Prime	Thu Jul 19 12:00:34 the nerve of the ruskies wanting to question someone. this is worse than pearl harbour and 9/11 combined.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jul 19 12:21:54 on the interrogating: Heather Nauert, State Dept spokeswoman: "absolutely absurd" Donald Trump, White House idiot: "incredible offer" should his own administration be constantly in total opposition to him on everything Russia? seems a bit odd
Delude Member	Thu Jul 19 12:29:11 But but but Putin has nothing on trump.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jul 19 12:56:22 hey how about that, Sarah Sanders releasing a new statement... (but still kissing Putin's ass at Trump's insistence presumably) "it is a proposal that was made in sincerity by Putin, but Trump disagrees with it" ~ Sarah Sanders so EXACTLY like when Trump tweeted: "Putin & I discussed forming an impenetrable Cyber Security unit so that election hacking, & many other negative things, will be guarded and safe" then claimed to oppose it after roundly thrashed WHY MENTION IT AT ALL IF YOU DON'T AGREE, because he DIDN'T disagree... on either in fact Trump called it an 'incredible offer' at the summit
Forwyn Member	Thu Jul 19 13:04:50 The State Dept are becoming experts on absurdity. Cease and desist orders to domestic citizens, publishing memos whining for foreign regime change; not absurd at all.
Paramount Member	Thu Jul 19 14:43:50 ”WASHINGTON—The White House is reviewing a request by Russian President Vladimir Putin to allow Russian investigators to question a number of Americans they say are implicated in criminal activity, including a former U.S. ambassador, a spokeswoman said.” Maybe Trump wants Russian experts to investigate this case. Like he wants Mexican experts to work on his Golf place. The Russians are good at this. Perhaps they could also use waterboarding on the Americans, to find out the truth. Or maybe the Russians has better methods?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jul 19 15:12:40 Trump has already invited his buddy Putin to a sleepover this fall at the White House... should be a lot easier for Putin to get all the classified intel he wants that way
Rugian Member	Thu Jul 19 16:01:45 Looks like the Senate just had themselves a vote. ...It's weird to see them pass anything so easily these days.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jul 19 16:06:14 98-0... probably why Sarah put out that weak-ass statement after staying wishy washy yesterday when she could've cleared it up then if her statement today was actually true we get nothing but lies from the White House
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jul 19 21:21:20 apparently Putin is after more of Ukraine but Trump wanted to keep a lid on it until he can figure out how to sell it
werewolf dictator Member	Thu Jul 19 22:54:30 as saakashvili and other luminaries have pointed out.. trump has been incredibly more tough on russia than putin’s patsy obama this is most of obama’s record.. 2010 obama agrees to give russia secrets about britain’s nuclear weapons on their submarines.. 2012 putin’s patsy obama tells romney that the 80s called and want their foreign policy back.. obama caught telling medvedev he will have more flexibility to negotiate after the election.. 2014 after totally not being involved in antidemocratic coup in ukraine that didn’t happen.. obama refuses for the rest of his term to supply arms to ukraine government.. 2016 after russia launches attack on america the likes of pearl harbor or 911.. all obama does is expel 35 diplomats and put sanctions on gru and fsb and a few other individuals.. imagine if fdr had responded to pearl harbor by just expelling some diplomats and putting sanctions on japanese navy [and that’s it].. ridiculous.. .... and then there’s stuff like obama joining with russia to get iran nice jcop deal.. or refusing to bomb russian ally syria now compare trump’s incredibly tough record on russia.. 2017 trump signs new sanctions against russian defense and energy.. trump closes russian diplomatic offices in nyc dc and sf.. makes rt register as foreign agent.. trump authorizes arms shipments to ukraine government 2018 trump kills hundreds of russians in syria.. trump expels 60 russian diplomats in largest such expulsion in entire usa history.. closes seattle consulate.. makes sputnik register as foreign agent.. trump administration enacts another round of sanctions on russia.. trump tries to get germany to stop supplying russia with huge fortunes from natural gas deals which russia then uses to threaten and subvert west .... and then there are other things like trump bombing russian allied syrian government.. or withdrawal from obama/putin supported iran deal.. or appointing virulently anti-russian figures like bolton pompeo or haley to senior positions it’s pretty obvious putin had poo-poo tape or similar kompromat he used to blackmail obama to be his patsy.. and that trump has been free and fearless in savagely opposing russia at virtually every possible turn
hood Member	Thu Jul 19 23:21:54 How do you have so much time to type with a dick in your mouth? I can't imagine it would be easy to see or concentrate.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Jul 20 01:27:19 Trump was angry about all sanctions & expulsions... as has been demonstrated repeatedly his administration has entirely different views than he does (obviously, as he's a total idiot) he has tweeted annoyance at Putin one time (it was about Syria)... one time... how many times has he criticized Germany/France/Canada/England? now he's finally pretending to accept Russia meddled but he's still not bothered by it at all you can't possibly think he's tough on Russia if you watched the press conference, Putin is his favorite leader
murder Member	Fri Jul 20 07:31:07 werewolf dictator: Why do you bother? Everyone knows what you're up to. There's no subtlety to your lame ass propaganda.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Jul 20 10:55:17 not really =his= propaganda... as soon as i saw 'patsy' i knew it was straight from team Trump "Look at the sanctions I put on, look at the diplomats I threw out... Obama didn’t do it. Obama was a patsy for Russia, he was a total patsy" ~Trump of course Obama -did- put on sanctions & -did- throw out diplomats, whereas congress passed veto-proof sanctions that Trump slow-walked, and Trump told Russia not to retaliate for Obama tossing people as he'd fix it & Trump has never advocated, in tweet or ramble, for any sanctions/expulsions/punishment against Russia on any issue (nor shown any problem w/ them attacking our election) he retweeted this completely unacceptable comment today: "The Summit with Russia was a great success, except with the real enemy of the people, the Fake News Media." and tweeted this before his date w/ Putin: "Our relationship with Russia has NEVER been worse thanks to many years of U.S. foolishness and stupidity and now, the Rigged Witch Hunt!" Russia hacked election systems...stole voter info... NO outrage by Trump & his fans are fine w/ it
werewolf dictator Member	Fri Jul 20 13:03:23 let’s say there are two crime families headed by don don and don vito.. on social media and in meetings with each other don don keeps saying nice things about vito.. meanwhile don don starts supplying weapons to vito’s enemies and hitting vito’s soldiers with st valentine’s massacre and orchestrating own initiated sanctions [see april 2018 round] and telling other crime bosses to stop doing business with don vito and on and on.. meanwhile don don keeps saying nice things about don vito on twitter and meetings between two.. even though don don knows he could secure position inside his own family by instead saying lots of mean nasty things about don vito since that would obviously be popular inside own crime family.. meanwhile don vito seems paralyzed and does nothing serious in return.. vito has a wide variety of ways to attack back don don’s family.. like using hackers he employs to launch massive attack on don don’s businesses.. or using vast enormous fleet of automated car bombs to blow up the businesses and houses [with families inside] of as many enemy soldiers and civilians as he wants.. but don vito does nothing significant.. as if he is under don don’s hypnotic spell which hypnotic spell perhaps is unsurprising since don don is master of arcane arts of hypnosis and persuasion.. which he has previously used to amass huge personal fortune and rise to the top of his own most pwerful crime family in world [despite facing many skilled competitors and foes opposing him].. it’s pretty clear american people don’t really care much about russia.. gallup keeps polling americans for most serious problem.. and situation with russia is usually lower than north korea and is never more than tied [or more than 1%].. [maybe they are aware of their own pattern of meddling in foreign countries.. or that every significant government in world is hacking leaders and government of just about everybody else in world].. people in usa are just using these silly “putin’s puppet argument” because they will use any argument when they hate trump and want him out of office for other reasons.. and basically all americans definitely don’t want real escalating war with russia [whatever morgan freeman says] over such minor issues because they know dangers of such.. and that is what trump has been doing.. trump is hitting russia while he hypnotizes and paralyses and confuses putin into thinking they’re friends thus keeping russia from hitting back.. in trump’s masterfully played 5d chess game he only uses for the good of america [when obviously trump would be more popular with media and others at home if he stopped saying nice things about putin in his 5d attacks with master hypnosis and persuasion tactics]
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Jul 20 13:09:08 yeah, the 4-D chess defense... i'll go with Occam's razor... Trump defended & supported Russia throughout campaign, Trump was told definitively that Russia attacked us when he took office & has done nothing but cast doubt to the public since, Trump blames Russia for nothing... Crimea was Obama's fault, the airplane: 'no one knows for sure', the murdering people: 'we have a lot of killers too' no indication arming Ukrainians or any sanctions were Trump's idea, only the opposite if Trump was a Russian agent not sure what he would have done differently
werewolf dictator Member	Fri Jul 20 13:31:33 trump likes being powerful famous person with lots of money.. he achieves apex of success on first two points and has enormous success on third.. luck seems really implausible explanation for this remarkable success compared to being 5d chess genius wizard with expertise in arts of hypnotism and persuasion if trump was russian agent he would be doing the things putin’s patsy obama had done [like not arming ukraine or giving nuclear secrets to russia] rather than impressive tough list given for trump.. with actions speaking louder than words [as saakashvili says in supporting trump.. whereas putin has been entirely blinded by trump’s use of hypnotic words]
hood Member	Fri Jul 20 13:36:45 You can tell when Putin's fluffer goes off script because the quality of English drops quickly.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Jul 20 14:21:28 he 'won' the election w/ no sign of intelligence in his words, so clearly it's not mandatory for success yes, he has some supernatural charm on some portion of low-information people or those who want to take advantage of his stupidity & malleability & susceptibility to praise
Rugian Member	Fri Jul 20 14:24:14 "whereas putin has been entirely blinded by trump’s use of hypnotic words" I'm not sure I buy this part, Putin is much too brilliant to be so easily overawed. The rest of your post is spot-on though.
Trolly Member	Fri Jul 20 15:07:50 agreeing with this own multi
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Jul 22 18:00:17 the Russian meddling story is a hoax "So President Obama knew about Russia before the Election. Why didn’t he do something about it? Why didn’t he tell our campaign? Because it is all a big hoax, that’s why, and he thought Crooked Hillary was going to win!!!" http://twi...ump/status/1021158915206152193 didn't even take a week
delude Member	Sun Jul 22 18:29:15 Except he did address Putin directly about it. Which is significantly much more than Trump would ever do. https://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/obama-press-conference-today-live-speech-on-russia-hacking-232737 I am sure hot rod will claim its another liberal lie, while he ignores Trump's continuous lies.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sun Jul 22 23:25:50 Trump works so hard that he outpaces everyone in The West Wing. They cannot keep up with him. That is how he keeps his campaign promises.
hood Member	Sun Jul 22 23:35:38 Like that wall? Or Obamacare? Or jailing Hillary? Or stopping the AT&T merger?
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Jul 23 00:00:12 He just got another $5 Billion for the wall, Obamacare was a horrendous idea that was imploding, As for Hillary wait and see, don't know about AT&T. Are you really so insulated that you are unaware of what he has accomplished since he has been President? Really?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Jul 23 01:13:55 that $5 billion hasn't passed yet congress yet and what has he accomplished that is both positive, and not something any Republican would've done? all these 'well, we got tax cuts & supreme court picks so we are ok w/ his treason, constant lying & other unacceptable behavior' people are idiots
Hot Rod Revved Up	Mon Jul 23 01:17:37 The point is he has done things that no other Republican, or any President for that matter, has done.
smart dude Member	Mon Jul 23 01:20:54 LOL, at least we can all agree on that, Rod.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Jul 23 14:07:28 dictator Trump is mulling revoking security clearances of all people who criticize him
Cold Rod Member	Mon Jul 23 14:11:19 "The point is he has done things that no other Republican, or any President for that matter, has done." Sold their country out? Betrayed the country? Works for Putin? Yeah. Quite an accomplishment.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Jul 23 18:09:27 " Thought experiment: Make a list of all the public figures in this country and around the world the current president has criticized. Ask yourself: “Why is Putin missing from the list?” No responsible American should ever stop asking, “Why?” " ~James Tiberius Comey
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Jul 24 12:44:34 "I’m very concerned that Russia will be fighting very hard to have an impact on the upcoming Election. Based on the fact that no President has been tougher on Russia than me, they will be pushing very hard for the Democrats. They definitely don’t want Trump!" ~comically stupid idiot child dictator
Forwyn Member	Tue Jul 24 13:49:25 "dictator Trump is mulling revoking security clearances of all people who criticize him" Brennan, at least, should never have had a clearance in the first place.
swordtail Anarchist Prime	Tue Jul 24 13:58:03 http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Di5A8QIUwAAl7RJ.jpg
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