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Average Ameriacn
Member Wed Jul 18 15:52:00
We have enough negroes ourselves.

http://www...p-defending-nato-ally-monteneg

"Membership in NATO obligates the members to defend any other member that's attacked," Fox News host Tucker Carlson said to Trump. "So let’s say Montenegro, which joined last year, is attacked. Why should my son go to Montenegro to defend it from attack?"

Trump answered: "I understand what you're saying. I've asked the same question. Montenegro is a tiny country with very strong people. … They're very aggressive people. They may get aggressive, and, congratulations, you're in World War III."

tumbleweed
the wanderer Wed Jul 18 17:39:50
the Montenegro leader is who Trump shoved out of the way in one of his past charming moments

i think Trump is hoping NATO kicks us out

swordtail
Anarchist Prime Wed Jul 18 18:22:21
2015 MAN OF THE YEAR IN ORGANIZED CRIME

Milo Djukanović

OCCRP announces 2015 Organized Crime and Corruption ‘Person of the Year’ Award

The OCCRP award acknowledges those who best promote Uncivil Society

His first real job was as the Prime Minister of Montenegro. He has either been the President or Prime Minister for most of the nearly three decades of his career and the life of his country. While he casts himself as a progressive, pro-Western leader who recently helped his country join NATO and is on track to join the European Union, he has built one of the most dedicated kleptocracies and organized crime havens in the world.

For his work in creating an oppressive political atmosphere and an economy choked by corruption and money laundering, OCCRP honors Milo Djukanovic, Prime Minister of Montenegro, as OCCRP’s Person of the Year for his work in promoting crime, corruption and uncivil society.

““We really see this as a lifetime achievement award,” said OCCRP editor Drew Sullivan. “Nobody outside of (Russian President Vladimir) Putin has run a state that relies so heavily on corruption, organized crime and dirty politics. It is truly and thoroughly rotten to the core.”

Nominating Djukanovic this year was Vanja Calovic, Director of the Network for Affirmation of NGO Sector (MANS), a civil society organization based in Montenegro.

“"This is a deserved award,” Calovic said. “Djukanovic, the last European dictator, has captured our country for his own private interests and turned it into safe haven for criminals. While he, his family and friends enriched themselves, ordinary people suffer from poverty, injustice and lawlessness, while those who dare to talk about the corruption become his targets."

Each year, OCCRP reporters and partners nominate and vote for the Person of the Year. The Prime Minister came in first in a vote with more than 50 journalists in the network participating. Previous winners have been Russian President Vladimir Putin, Azerbaijan President Ilham Aliyev, and the Romanian Parliament.

Finishing a close second and third in the polling respectively were the wife and children of Azerbaijan President Ilham Aliyev and Macedonian Prime Minister Nikola Gruevski. The relatives of the Azerbaijani president own large chunks of the country’s economy and have worked to plunder the economy at the expense of the people. The Macedonian PM has wiretapped opposition parties and journalists, prosecuted political opponents and whitewashed murder investigations.

Djukanovic has a long history of befriending organized crime figures, involving himself in corrupt practices and bribing voters. He has been one of the world’s worst caretakers of government, often giving public money to cronies including organized criminals. His actions have left Montenegro with massive debts. Some of his career highlights include:

•Djukanovic and his close associates engaged in extensive cigarette smuggling with the Italian Sacra Corona Unita and Camorra crime families. He was indicted in Bari and freely admitted the trade but said his country needed money. He invoked diplomatic immunity to get the charges dropped.
•While he claims to have stopped the smuggling, OCCRP found an island off the coast financed by his family bank and owned by his good friend Stanko Subotic, a controversial businessman who was three times indicted but never convicted of cigarette smuggling related activities. The island was run by Djukanovic’s head of security and was being used to smuggle cigarettes with some of the same organized crime figures who were previously involved.
•He has made Montenegro a safe haven for a slew of controversial and organized crime figures over the years, including Darko Saric, Stanko Subotic, Naser Kelmendi, Safet Kalic, Brano Micunovic and others.
•When a state bank was privatized, it went to his family, and his government put huge amounts of the state’s money in it. Then they used it to launder money for organized crime and give big loans to organized crime, themselves and their friends. When the loans were not repaid, Djukanovic bailed out the family bank by forcing the Parliament to adopt a special law. There is no proof the bailout loans were ever repaid. To provide needed cash for the insolvent bank, he sold the state electrical company and required the proceeds go to the family bank. When the Central Bank objected to the illegal activity at the bank, Djukanovic fired the governor and replaced him with someone from the family bank, thus violating the longstanding independence of the Central Bank.
•His government has almost never looked into any scandal reported by the media. His handpicked prosecutors are famous for investigating leaks to journalists but not crime figures or corrupt deals--unless to do so benefits Djukanovic.
•He has sold large chunks of the Montenegrin coastline to very dodgy figures including controversial Russian businessmen, Azerbaijani companies controlled by that country’s First Family, and corrupt Middle Eastern interests.
•In 2015, Djukanovic borrowed close to US$ 1 billion for construction of a 41-kilometer-long section of highway, pushing the public debt to more than 60 percent of the GDP and violating European debt standards.
•Since 2006, Djukanovic has used state money to provide € 300 million in state guarantees for loans taken out by private companies. There was no interest required. More than half of those loans -- €184 million-- were never repaid, leaving Montenegrin citizens stuck with the debt. Most of it--€130 million—is owed by Oleg Deripaska, a Russian aluminum tycoon and one of the world’s richest men.
•Djukanovic’s government offered citizenship to then-wanted regional drug kingpin Darko Saric. Citizenship would have been granted had Serbia allowed Saric to give up his Serbian citizenship.
•State newspapers have been used to smear journalists and activists who point out the rampant corruption.

While he pays lip service to fighting corruption and occasionally makes an arrest, it is usually in his own interest, such as the recent indictment of a political adversary.

Montenegro and Djukanovic still offer a haven for organized crime and we suspect this will continue until Djukanovic leaves office for good. Djukanovic is, however, good at playing various political interests against each other and has so far avoided serious international sanctions.

http://www.occrp.org/personoftheyear/2015/index.html

murder
Member Wed Jul 18 18:44:35

NATO can't kick us out. We are NATO. Without the US there is no NATO.

Paramount
Member Thu Jul 19 02:13:55
“I understand what you’re saying; I’ve asked the same question,” Trump responded. “You know, Montenegro is a tiny country with very strong people . . . They are very aggressive people. They may get aggressive, and congratulations, you’re in World War III.”

Well, if Trump is worried that Montenegro may attack Russia and start the World War III, he could always quit NATO. If Montenegro then attacks Russia, the USA could help Russia to defend itself.

Hot Rod
Revved Up Thu Jul 19 04:36:05

You got it backward.

Russia would have to attack Montenegro for us to be forced into the fight against Montenegro, the NATO member.

What I don't understand, is why they were allowed to become a member of NATO?

Cold Rod
Member Thu Jul 19 05:09:23
"Russia would have to attack Montenegro for us to be forced into the fight against Montenegro, the NATO member."

No you moron. Trump was indicating Montenegro would be aggressive. Read the fucking quote.

Average Ameriacn
Member Thu Jul 19 05:11:38
Every new NATO member should spend at least 10% of his GDP for 10 years for his military to be allowed to join NATO.

Hot Rod
Revved Up Thu Jul 19 06:29:06

If a NATO member attacks another country without the permission of NATO ten they are on their own.

NATO is a ***defensive*** organization.

Hot Rod
Revved Up Thu Jul 19 06:29:47
*-then they

Cold Rod
Member Thu Jul 19 06:35:25
1) Ridiculous to think MN would attack another country.

2) You said Russia would have to attack MN for US to fight against MN. (Dumb and incorrect.)

3) Yes, thank you for the trivia. The rest of us with a brain and uses it have known this since we were kids. And yet, as old as you are, you still do no understand how things operate. Fascinating.

Basically: Trump questions the membership and is indicate for whatever dumbass reason that MN would be the aggressor to start WWIII. Which ironically means that Trump doesn't understand that purpose and understanding how NATO works. Much like his base, which includes you ironically.

Idiot.

Hot Rod
Revved Up Thu Jul 19 07:00:09

"The rest of us with a brain and uses it have known this since we were kids."

Obviously.

So it is your opinion that Paramount is still a kid because that is who I was responding to.

Paramount - Well, if Trump is worried that Montenegro may attack Russia and start the World War III, he could always quit NATO. If Montenegro then attacks Russia, the USA could help Russia to defend itself.

Hot Rod
Revved Up Thu Jul 19 07:02:31

AA - Why did we ally with Mountainnegro?

As I understand it, the Oslimea administration invited them to join NATO in 2015.

Cold Rod
Member Thu Jul 19 07:14:31
"So it is your opinion that Paramount is still a kid because that is who I was responding to."

No one cares who you are responding. If you say something stupid, you get called out on it. And excellent display of your poor comprehension and interpretation skills.

Cold Rod
Member Thu Jul 19 07:18:35
"As I understand it, the Oslimea administration invited them to join NATO in 2015. "

And you still manage not to understand how nato applications process work. Since this started in 2003...

But you are an idiot

Hot Rod
Revved Up Thu Jul 19 08:35:18

cr, your posting tactics haven't changed.

Go fuck yourself.

Wrath of Orion
Member Thu Jul 19 08:58:49
Holy fucking shit, Retard Rod is too stupid to even comprehend what Trump said. That's 1st grade reading comprehension there, which Retard Rod apparently couldn't pass.

Cold Rod
Member Thu Jul 19 09:37:21
Hot Rod, you're intelligence hasn't changed.

You're still a moron.

murder
Member Thu Jul 19 09:41:52

Someone should tell Donald Trump that "very aggressive" Montenegro has < 2000 men in uniform.

I swear this man is almost as stupid as the people who voted for him.

murder
Member Thu Jul 19 10:02:35

The Montenegro armed forces don't have a single tank or fighter jet, and Trump is worried about them starting WWIII.

Probably with their nukes.

Delude
Member Thu Jul 19 10:35:24
"cr, your posting tactics haven't changed.

Go fuck yourself."

In other words, "I got put in my place and i dont appreciate you exposing how completely dumb i am."

Hot Rod
Revved Up Thu Jul 19 10:41:29

Why don't you take a few minutes and find out what happened before you make a fool of yourself again?

tumbleweed
the wanderer Thu Jul 19 10:57:16
let's note that Hot Rod knows more than Trump

(as Trump thinks we have to join the 'strong aggressive' people if they attack someone)

more proof of Trump being a total idiot... so stupid that his fans can't accept the words he's saying are what he meant so they turn it into something acceptable each time

Delude
Member Thu Jul 19 11:45:21
"Why don't you take a few minutes and find out what happened before you see why I made a fool of myself again?" Fixed.

Forwyn
Member Thu Jul 19 13:10:09
"Someone should tell Donald Trump that "very aggressive" Montenegro has < 2000 men in uniform."

Tell that to McCain, who whined and bitched and screeched that any opposition to some tiny shithole joining NATO equates to working for Putin.

Paramount
Member Thu Jul 19 14:27:54
lol, Hot Rod is definitevly not a genius.

With that said, I think most of us has maybe forgot that Montenegro declared war on Ottoman Turkey in 1912 and thus triggered the 1st Balkan War.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Balkan_War

Dukhat
Member Thu Jul 19 21:26:49
Forwyn has such a stick up his butt about McCain. The only reporting done on McCain is on his health by the MSM and constant virulent attacks on McCain from the far right that are still butt-hurt about McCain's moderation and vote to stop the repeal of Obamacare.

Shows where the retard gets most of his information from.

Forwyn
Member Thu Jul 19 21:52:20
"still butt-hurt about McCain's moderation"

LOL! What a fucking retard you must be to call McCain a moderate.

This, following a comment referring to a completely unhinged, conspiracy theory rant by McCain on the Senate floor.

You're welcome to peruse the years of C-Span videos of McCain lunacy. Or you can stick to health reports by the MSM and tread water in your retardation.

Jack Cafferty
Member Thu Jul 19 21:54:14
^Can't interpret laws, kek

Forwyn
Member Thu Jul 19 21:58:53
^Shows up butthurt in two unrelated threads to spam. One could say he does it "repeatedly". kek

Jack Cafferty
Member Fri Jul 20 04:27:49
^still can't interpret laws. Spams others threads about "muh McCain," kek.

Forwyn
Member Tue Jul 24 10:56:11
Lol

http://imgur.com/gallery/5Bljzxn

murder
Member Tue Jul 24 14:16:54
^ Yeah ... I don't get it.

Forwyn
Member Tue Jul 24 14:24:26
NATO only "invoked" once (but used several times outside of that), prevents war, defends Montenegro against Russian aggression...NATO bombs Montenegro to protect muh Muslim Bosniaks, fueled by foreign mercenaries.

Syria Pt. I

Forwyn
Member Tue Jul 24 14:24:45
Just another McCainite hawk piece of shit.

murder
Member Tue Jul 24 14:38:43

"NATO only "invoked" once (but used several times outside of that), prevents war, defends Montenegro against Russian aggression...NATO bombs Montenegro to protect muh Muslim Bosniaks, fueled by foreign mercenaries."

I'm still confused. What the fuck are you getting at? The US bombed Germany too. Now we're allies. What happened before has no bearing on now.

Forwyn
Member Tue Jul 24 15:16:58
You're right, a war in the 40s is the same as the 90s is the same as the 2010s.

i.e. any Russian aggression that occurred before this post is meaningless. It's in the past.

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Average Ameriacn Member	Wed Jul 18 15:52:00 We have enough negroes ourselves. http://www...p-defending-nato-ally-monteneg "Membership in NATO obligates the members to defend any other member that's attacked," Fox News host Tucker Carlson said to Trump. "So let’s say Montenegro, which joined last year, is attacked. Why should my son go to Montenegro to defend it from attack?" Trump answered: "I understand what you're saying. I've asked the same question. Montenegro is a tiny country with very strong people. … They're very aggressive people. They may get aggressive, and, congratulations, you're in World War III."
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jul 18 17:39:50 the Montenegro leader is who Trump shoved out of the way in one of his past charming moments i think Trump is hoping NATO kicks us out
swordtail Anarchist Prime	Wed Jul 18 18:22:21 2015 MAN OF THE YEAR IN ORGANIZED CRIME Milo Djukanović OCCRP announces 2015 Organized Crime and Corruption ‘Person of the Year’ Award The OCCRP award acknowledges those who best promote Uncivil Society His first real job was as the Prime Minister of Montenegro. He has either been the President or Prime Minister for most of the nearly three decades of his career and the life of his country. While he casts himself as a progressive, pro-Western leader who recently helped his country join NATO and is on track to join the European Union, he has built one of the most dedicated kleptocracies and organized crime havens in the world. For his work in creating an oppressive political atmosphere and an economy choked by corruption and money laundering, OCCRP honors Milo Djukanovic, Prime Minister of Montenegro, as OCCRP’s Person of the Year for his work in promoting crime, corruption and uncivil society. ““We really see this as a lifetime achievement award,” said OCCRP editor Drew Sullivan. “Nobody outside of (Russian President Vladimir) Putin has run a state that relies so heavily on corruption, organized crime and dirty politics. It is truly and thoroughly rotten to the core.” Nominating Djukanovic this year was Vanja Calovic, Director of the Network for Affirmation of NGO Sector (MANS), a civil society organization based in Montenegro. “"This is a deserved award,” Calovic said. “Djukanovic, the last European dictator, has captured our country for his own private interests and turned it into safe haven for criminals. While he, his family and friends enriched themselves, ordinary people suffer from poverty, injustice and lawlessness, while those who dare to talk about the corruption become his targets." Each year, OCCRP reporters and partners nominate and vote for the Person of the Year. The Prime Minister came in first in a vote with more than 50 journalists in the network participating. Previous winners have been Russian President Vladimir Putin, Azerbaijan President Ilham Aliyev, and the Romanian Parliament. Finishing a close second and third in the polling respectively were the wife and children of Azerbaijan President Ilham Aliyev and Macedonian Prime Minister Nikola Gruevski. The relatives of the Azerbaijani president own large chunks of the country’s economy and have worked to plunder the economy at the expense of the people. The Macedonian PM has wiretapped opposition parties and journalists, prosecuted political opponents and whitewashed murder investigations. Djukanovic has a long history of befriending organized crime figures, involving himself in corrupt practices and bribing voters. He has been one of the world’s worst caretakers of government, often giving public money to cronies including organized criminals. His actions have left Montenegro with massive debts. Some of his career highlights include: •Djukanovic and his close associates engaged in extensive cigarette smuggling with the Italian Sacra Corona Unita and Camorra crime families. He was indicted in Bari and freely admitted the trade but said his country needed money. He invoked diplomatic immunity to get the charges dropped. •While he claims to have stopped the smuggling, OCCRP found an island off the coast financed by his family bank and owned by his good friend Stanko Subotic, a controversial businessman who was three times indicted but never convicted of cigarette smuggling related activities. The island was run by Djukanovic’s head of security and was being used to smuggle cigarettes with some of the same organized crime figures who were previously involved. •He has made Montenegro a safe haven for a slew of controversial and organized crime figures over the years, including Darko Saric, Stanko Subotic, Naser Kelmendi, Safet Kalic, Brano Micunovic and others. •When a state bank was privatized, it went to his family, and his government put huge amounts of the state’s money in it. Then they used it to launder money for organized crime and give big loans to organized crime, themselves and their friends. When the loans were not repaid, Djukanovic bailed out the family bank by forcing the Parliament to adopt a special law. There is no proof the bailout loans were ever repaid. To provide needed cash for the insolvent bank, he sold the state electrical company and required the proceeds go to the family bank. When the Central Bank objected to the illegal activity at the bank, Djukanovic fired the governor and replaced him with someone from the family bank, thus violating the longstanding independence of the Central Bank. •His government has almost never looked into any scandal reported by the media. His handpicked prosecutors are famous for investigating leaks to journalists but not crime figures or corrupt deals--unless to do so benefits Djukanovic. •He has sold large chunks of the Montenegrin coastline to very dodgy figures including controversial Russian businessmen, Azerbaijani companies controlled by that country’s First Family, and corrupt Middle Eastern interests. •In 2015, Djukanovic borrowed close to US$ 1 billion for construction of a 41-kilometer-long section of highway, pushing the public debt to more than 60 percent of the GDP and violating European debt standards. •Since 2006, Djukanovic has used state money to provide € 300 million in state guarantees for loans taken out by private companies. There was no interest required. More than half of those loans -- €184 million-- were never repaid, leaving Montenegrin citizens stuck with the debt. Most of it--€130 million—is owed by Oleg Deripaska, a Russian aluminum tycoon and one of the world’s richest men. •Djukanovic’s government offered citizenship to then-wanted regional drug kingpin Darko Saric. Citizenship would have been granted had Serbia allowed Saric to give up his Serbian citizenship. •State newspapers have been used to smear journalists and activists who point out the rampant corruption. While he pays lip service to fighting corruption and occasionally makes an arrest, it is usually in his own interest, such as the recent indictment of a political adversary. Montenegro and Djukanovic still offer a haven for organized crime and we suspect this will continue until Djukanovic leaves office for good. Djukanovic is, however, good at playing various political interests against each other and has so far avoided serious international sanctions. http://www.occrp.org/personoftheyear/2015/index.html
murder Member	Wed Jul 18 18:44:35 NATO can't kick us out. We are NATO. Without the US there is no NATO.
Paramount Member	Thu Jul 19 02:13:55 “I understand what you’re saying; I’ve asked the same question,” Trump responded. “You know, Montenegro is a tiny country with very strong people . . . They are very aggressive people. They may get aggressive, and congratulations, you’re in World War III.” Well, if Trump is worried that Montenegro may attack Russia and start the World War III, he could always quit NATO. If Montenegro then attacks Russia, the USA could help Russia to defend itself.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Jul 19 04:36:05 You got it backward. Russia would have to attack Montenegro for us to be forced into the fight against Montenegro, the NATO member. What I don't understand, is why they were allowed to become a member of NATO?
Cold Rod Member	Thu Jul 19 05:09:23 "Russia would have to attack Montenegro for us to be forced into the fight against Montenegro, the NATO member." No you moron. Trump was indicating Montenegro would be aggressive. Read the fucking quote.
Average Ameriacn Member	Thu Jul 19 05:11:38 Every new NATO member should spend at least 10% of his GDP for 10 years for his military to be allowed to join NATO.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Jul 19 06:29:06 If a NATO member attacks another country without the permission of NATO ten they are on their own. NATO is a *defensive* organization.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Jul 19 06:29:47 *-then they
Cold Rod Member	Thu Jul 19 06:35:25 1) Ridiculous to think MN would attack another country. 2) You said Russia would have to attack MN for US to fight against MN. (Dumb and incorrect.) 3) Yes, thank you for the trivia. The rest of us with a brain and uses it have known this since we were kids. And yet, as old as you are, you still do no understand how things operate. Fascinating. Basically: Trump questions the membership and is indicate for whatever dumbass reason that MN would be the aggressor to start WWIII. Which ironically means that Trump doesn't understand that purpose and understanding how NATO works. Much like his base, which includes you ironically. Idiot.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Jul 19 07:00:09 "The rest of us with a brain and uses it have known this since we were kids." Obviously. So it is your opinion that Paramount is still a kid because that is who I was responding to. Paramount - Well, if Trump is worried that Montenegro may attack Russia and start the World War III, he could always quit NATO. If Montenegro then attacks Russia, the USA could help Russia to defend itself.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Jul 19 07:02:31 AA - Why did we ally with Mountainnegro? As I understand it, the Oslimea administration invited them to join NATO in 2015.
Cold Rod Member	Thu Jul 19 07:14:31 "So it is your opinion that Paramount is still a kid because that is who I was responding to." No one cares who you are responding. If you say something stupid, you get called out on it. And excellent display of your poor comprehension and interpretation skills.
Cold Rod Member	Thu Jul 19 07:18:35 "As I understand it, the Oslimea administration invited them to join NATO in 2015. " And you still manage not to understand how nato applications process work. Since this started in 2003... But you are an idiot
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Jul 19 08:35:18 cr, your posting tactics haven't changed. Go fuck yourself.
Wrath of Orion Member	Thu Jul 19 08:58:49 Holy fucking shit, Retard Rod is too stupid to even comprehend what Trump said. That's 1st grade reading comprehension there, which Retard Rod apparently couldn't pass.
Cold Rod Member	Thu Jul 19 09:37:21 Hot Rod, you're intelligence hasn't changed. You're still a moron.
murder Member	Thu Jul 19 09:41:52 Someone should tell Donald Trump that "very aggressive" Montenegro has < 2000 men in uniform. I swear this man is almost as stupid as the people who voted for him.
murder Member	Thu Jul 19 10:02:35 The Montenegro armed forces don't have a single tank or fighter jet, and Trump is worried about them starting WWIII. Probably with their nukes.
Delude Member	Thu Jul 19 10:35:24 "cr, your posting tactics haven't changed. Go fuck yourself." In other words, "I got put in my place and i dont appreciate you exposing how completely dumb i am."
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Jul 19 10:41:29 Why don't you take a few minutes and find out what happened before you make a fool of yourself again?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jul 19 10:57:16 let's note that Hot Rod knows more than Trump (as Trump thinks we have to join the 'strong aggressive' people if they attack someone) more proof of Trump being a total idiot... so stupid that his fans can't accept the words he's saying are what he meant so they turn it into something acceptable each time
Delude Member	Thu Jul 19 11:45:21 "Why don't you take a few minutes and find out what happened before you see why I made a fool of myself again?" Fixed.
Forwyn Member	Thu Jul 19 13:10:09 "Someone should tell Donald Trump that "very aggressive" Montenegro has < 2000 men in uniform." Tell that to McCain, who whined and bitched and screeched that any opposition to some tiny shithole joining NATO equates to working for Putin.
Paramount Member	Thu Jul 19 14:27:54 lol, Hot Rod is definitevly not a genius. With that said, I think most of us has maybe forgot that Montenegro declared war on Ottoman Turkey in 1912 and thus triggered the 1st Balkan War. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Balkan_War
Dukhat Member	Thu Jul 19 21:26:49 Forwyn has such a stick up his butt about McCain. The only reporting done on McCain is on his health by the MSM and constant virulent attacks on McCain from the far right that are still butt-hurt about McCain's moderation and vote to stop the repeal of Obamacare. Shows where the retard gets most of his information from.
Forwyn Member	Thu Jul 19 21:52:20 "still butt-hurt about McCain's moderation" LOL! What a fucking retard you must be to call McCain a moderate. This, following a comment referring to a completely unhinged, conspiracy theory rant by McCain on the Senate floor. You're welcome to peruse the years of C-Span videos of McCain lunacy. Or you can stick to health reports by the MSM and tread water in your retardation.
Jack Cafferty Member	Thu Jul 19 21:54:14 ^Can't interpret laws, kek
Forwyn Member	Thu Jul 19 21:58:53 ^Shows up butthurt in two unrelated threads to spam. One could say he does it "repeatedly". kek
Jack Cafferty Member	Fri Jul 20 04:27:49 ^still can't interpret laws. Spams others threads about "muh McCain," kek.
Forwyn Member	Tue Jul 24 10:56:11 Lol http://imgur.com/gallery/5Bljzxn
murder Member	Tue Jul 24 14:16:54 ^ Yeah ... I don't get it.
Forwyn Member	Tue Jul 24 14:24:26 NATO only "invoked" once (but used several times outside of that), prevents war, defends Montenegro against Russian aggression...NATO bombs Montenegro to protect muh Muslim Bosniaks, fueled by foreign mercenaries. Syria Pt. I
Forwyn Member	Tue Jul 24 14:24:45 Just another McCainite hawk piece of shit.
murder Member	Tue Jul 24 14:38:43 "NATO only "invoked" once (but used several times outside of that), prevents war, defends Montenegro against Russian aggression...NATO bombs Montenegro to protect muh Muslim Bosniaks, fueled by foreign mercenaries." I'm still confused. What the fuck are you getting at? The US bombed Germany too. Now we're allies. What happened before has no bearing on now.
Forwyn Member	Tue Jul 24 15:16:58 You're right, a war in the 40s is the same as the 90s is the same as the 2010s. i.e. any Russian aggression that occurred before this post is meaningless. It's in the past.
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