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Average Ameriacn rank	Sat Jul 28 23:30:12 2018 We need to defend against the criminals https://ww.../2018/07/27/homicides-using-gu Homicides using guns up 31 percent, CDC finds NBC News MAGGIE FOX Jul 27th 2018 The number of homicides committed using guns has gone up by nearly a third nationwide in recent years, according to new data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The CDC found a 31 percent increase in homicides involving firearms from 2014 to 2016. In 2014, 11,008 homicides involved a gun. The number rose to 14,415 by 2016, the CDC team said. Guns were by far the most common weapon used in homicides, the CDC team found. "In 2016, the number of homicides involving firearms was approximately eight times the number of those involving cutting and piercing (1,781) and approximately 30 times those involving suffocation (502)," the CDC team wrote in the agency's weekly report. The CDC regularly reports bare-bones statistics. The latest report is based on death certificates. It also regularly reports on gun deaths,but its role in researching the underlying causes has been limited by the so-called Dickey Amendment, which is tacked on to congressional funding legislation every year. It bars the CDC from using federal funding to "advocate or promote gun control." There's no question that the U.S. leads the world in gun deaths, but there's disagreement over how much of a role is played by the high rates of firearm ownership in the U.S. and the relative lack of regulation on who can buy guns and what kind of weapons are available. One study in 2015 found that one in three Americans owns a gun. Daniel Webster, a gun policy expert at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, said one surprising factor behind the recent increase in gun killings is the outcry against police killings of unarmed people. Gun deaths went up in Baltimore, he said, alongside the unrest that followed the 2015 death of Freddie Gray in police custody. Police pulled back from much of the day-in, day-out patrolling they had been doing in many parts of the city. "That kind of policing activity dropped substantially," Webster said. "Policing was preoccupied with quelling the riots. There is evidence of a pullback of general policing activities by Baltimore police," Webster, who wrote a detailed report on the effect in January, told NBC News. "When you add a breakdown in trust between communities and police, I think that is a recipe for more violence." Webster also noted that more states were loosening rules on gun ownership and the carrying of guns around the same time that firearms homicide rates went up.
murder rank	Sun Jul 29 00:54:27 2018 "In 2016, the number of homicides involving firearms was approximately eight times the number of those involving cutting and piercing (1,781) and approximately 30 times those involving suffocation (502)," What about bludgeoning? Do they have the numbers for bludgeoning?
Hot Rod rank	Sun Jul 29 05:17:41 2018 I can't afford the one I would like. An M1911 pistol .45 would be really nice. If you hit your target with that they are going down. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1911_pistol
Forwyn rank	Sun Jul 29 09:12:37 2018 Brother and I have matching ones of this: http://www...prodimages/19600-DEFAULT-l.jpg Hoping to grab a CMP surplus when they're released. Demand is probably gonna be enormous though.
Hot Rod rank	Sun Jul 29 14:33:29 2018 Next to a .45, I would love to have an M-1 Carbine. I saw an M-1 Garand at Cabelas a few years back, that's what I had in the army. I could hardly lift it. It weighed a ton. CMP? Are they importing the surplus weapons from South Korea that Obama nixed some years ago?
State Department rank	Sun Jul 29 16:32:13 2018 "There's no question that the U.S. leads the world in gun deaths" Try again, Maggie.
patom rank	Sun Jul 29 19:36:31 2018 Hot Rod, what you should have is a 12 gauge pump with an 18.5" barrel. #7 bird shot. will take down anything inside your apartment without killing an innocent neighbor. You don't even have to be very accurate.
Wrath of Orion rank	Sun Jul 29 20:29:57 2018 Like Hypocrite Rod would give a shit if an innocent died - he enjoys violence.
Rugian rank	Sun Jul 29 20:46:20 2018 I don't think Hot Rod was specifically talking about owning an M1 for home defense. But yeah it would be hilarious if he responded to a home invasion by firing .30-06 rounds within his apartment. Forwyn, consider me envious.
Pillz rank	Sun Jul 29 20:59:07 2018 M1 Carbine fires .30 Carbine.
Rugian rank	Sun Jul 29 21:02:24 2018 Ah, he did say Carbine. My bad
Hot Rod rank	Mon Jul 30 00:48:32 2018 Patom, Not really concerned about home defense, I live in a secure building. I just like those two weapons. They would look good on my wall. The .45 I would take with me when I leave the apartment though.
Forwyn rank	Mon Jul 30 02:35:40 2018 "#7 bird shot. will take down anything inside your apartment without killing an innocent neighbor." So will .45 or 7.62x33 JHPs.
patom rank	Mon Jul 30 11:11:17 2018 Forwyn, If you are accurate. If you miss where are your bullets going? Through walls doors windows, hitting what? Your family member a room away? Your next door neighbor or one of their kids? Someone walking down the sidewalk? You don't have to be super accurate with a short barreled 12 gauge.
Pillz rank	Mon Jul 30 15:48:06 2018 Patom is right. JHP is going through walls.
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