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Paramount Member	Mon Aug 06 11:10:35 Trump’s best friends and ally Saudi Barbaria threatened Canada with a 9/11: http://twi...tatus/1026478107895717888?s=21 Saudi Barbaria is apparently also going to impose some kind of sanctions or some shit on Canada. Why can’t Canada and the EU withdraw all diplomats from Barabaria, cut all ties, impose sanctions on them and declare war?
Sam Adams Member	Mon Aug 06 11:43:01 Nuke mecca.
murder Member	Mon Aug 06 11:57:04 Just in case anyone had forgotten that Saudi Arabia had a hand in the 9/11 attacks.
murder Member	Mon Aug 06 12:01:18 This sums it up nicely ... http://twitter.com/Scott_Rolston/status/1026486856093859842
Paramount Member	Mon Aug 06 12:21:36 SAUDI Arabia has given the Canadian ambassador 24 hours to leave and frozen all new trade. It comes down to two words. SAUDI Arabia said Monday it was expelling the Canadian ambassador and had recalled its envoy while freezing all new trade, in protest at Ottawa’s vigorous calls for the release of jailed activists. The kingdom gave the Canadian ambassador 24 hours to leave the country, in an abrupt rupture of relations over what it slammed as “interference” in its internal affairs. The move, which underscores a newly aggressive foreign policy led by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, comes after Canada demanded the immediate release of human rights campaigners swept up in a recent crackdown. http://www...f2f21bdb8bd3d6f464202029fee624 Will Canada respond to this? Or will they accept the bitch slap they got?
Paramount Member	Wed Aug 08 16:16:41 Saudi Arabia is selling off its Canadian assets as row intensifies, report says Saudi Arabia's diplomatic spat with Canada looks set to escalate following a report that the Middle Eastern country has instructed its brokers to sell Canadian assets. Anger between the two countries erupted last week when Canadian officials urged Riyadh to "immediately release" women's rights activists Samar Badawi and Nassima al-Sadah. Now the Financial Times has reported that the Saudi central bank and state pension funds have instructed third party asset managers to sell Canadian bonds, stocks and cash. The selling is said to have begun on Tuesday. In a sign of its rage, Saudi Arabia has already expelled the Canadian ambassador, frozen trade and investment between Riyadh and Ottawa and halted flights to and from Canada. Saudi rulers have also stopped all medical treatment programs in Canada and are coordinating for the transfer of all Saudi patients currently receiving care in Canadian hospitals to be moved outside of the country. Canada's Foreign Minister Chrystia Freeland said Monday that "Canada will always stand up for human rights in Canada and around the world, and women's rights are human rights." But on Wednesday, Saudi Arabia's foreign minister said there was nothing to mediate between the two countries and that Canada knew what it needed to do to "fix its big mistake. http://www...ets-as-row-intensifies-re.html Seriously, Canada should expel all the Barbarians from Canada, or better yet put them in jail, declare war and nuke Mecca.
kargen Member	Wed Aug 08 16:19:46 It's about time Canada pissed someone off.
Dukhat Member	Wed Aug 08 16:21:29 THis is why decolonization was a mixed bag. Tyrants shouldn't get power just because their piece of shit desert happens to have oil underneath it. Too bad they didn't do this to America. It would be more motivating to dumbass cuckservatives if we moved away from oil to fuck over saudia arabia than the very real consequences of climate change
murder Member	Wed Aug 08 17:14:15 Ummm ... we'd just invade them.
Rugian Member	Wed Aug 08 17:33:59 Don't worry Canada, as your strongest ally we've fully got your back on thi-... ...oh wait. ROFL Bet that whole antagonizing Trump gag isn't so funny now, eh Justin?
Rugian Member	Wed Aug 08 17:47:04 Remember this? http://www...rump-saudi-arabia-visit-238638 That's called an investment, motherfuckers. One that's now paying out dividends.
Dukhat Member	Wed Aug 08 17:50:39 @Murder - THey'd set fire to their oil rigs and cause a shit-storm just like Iraq in Kuwait. Only Saudi Arabia produces a shit-ton of oil so it would cost over 10x more to fix and disrupt oil supplies for years. Pyrrhic victory. *** And of course Rugian loves the fact that Trump is Saudia Arabia's little bitch. Fucking spineless incel.
Rugian Member	Wed Aug 08 18:01:06 I'm not sure you fully understand the meaning of that word.
Dukhat Member	Wed Aug 08 18:17:59 To sam’s credit, he at least has consistency when he talks about hating muslims. Thus vs rugian who suddenly loves them because rightwing media told him too. The hypocrisy is obvious and glaring.
Rugian Member	Wed Aug 08 18:36:32 This coming from Mr. "I was just pretending to be a Republican" Dukhat? The fuck out of here, man.
Dukhat Member	Wed Aug 08 18:56:45 Your false equivalencies are sad and pathetic. Go back to crying because a girl you dated once realized you were an incel and dumped your ass.
Aeros Member	Wed Aug 08 19:01:14 I thought Muslims were higher on the progressive stack. Why is Trudeau being so culturally insensitive and whitesplaining to those noble POC?
murder Member	Wed Aug 08 19:46:11 "Bet that whole antagonizing Trump gag isn't so funny now, eh Justin?" Why would Canada care? WTF are the Saudis going to do, stop selling them oil?
murder Member	Wed Aug 08 19:51:04 "THey'd set fire to their oil rigs and cause a shit-storm just like Iraq in Kuwait. Only Saudi Arabia produces a shit-ton of oil so it would cost over 10x more to fix and disrupt oil supplies for years." So they'd cut their own dicks off just to save us the trouble? OK. We'd just go back to fracking like crazy.
Forwyn Member	Wed Aug 08 20:44:07 "So they'd cut their own dicks off just to save us the trouble? OK." +1 It would be fucking delicious to see SA burn away their own money. Time to buy Tesla stock?
Canadian Member	Wed Aug 08 22:58:32 Canada is pretty "meh" about the whole thing - more concerned about the Saudi students and medical interns getting fucked over by their own government than anything else, and laughing at the Saudi's shooting themselves in the foot by selling Canadian investments at a loss in a vain attempt to hurt our markets. Still, the U.S and Britain not backing us isn't cool, FYI.
murder Member	Wed Aug 08 23:10:57 I'd apologize about Trump, but I didn't vote for that fetid turd.
CrownRoyal Member	Wed Aug 08 23:28:31 Thank god saudi-bought Hilary wasn’t elected, eh? US got our back in this spat with Wahhabis, right?
Forwyn Member	Thu Aug 09 00:30:28 I'm told that a vote for third party was a vote for Trump, so, sorry?
Pillz Member	Thu Aug 09 03:25:54 Canadian seems to just parrot CBC stories. Who the fuck cares about Saudis?
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Thu Aug 09 03:41:10 Canada, the third Satan after USA (big Satan) and UK (the little Satan), everyone knows this, read the hadith!
Canadian Member	Thu Aug 09 18:39:18 "Pillz Member Thu Aug 09 03:25:54 Canadian seems to just parrot CBC stories." - along with Global, CTV, Globe and Mail, BBC, the Guardian, Al Jazeera, along with all the other websites that publish news. Nice try though - how's that now-extra expensive pipeline coming along for you?
Pillz Member	Thu Aug 09 19:21:22 Just because news organizations with bested interests in political change publish stories about how the country is reeling about the fate of exchange students does not make it true. Nobody gives a fuck but the fringe retards cunning themselves to Trudeau at every day pride a parade across the country. Have you ever seen met a Saudi foreign student?
Canadian Member	Thu Aug 09 20:55:00 Yes, I have met Saudi students. And the country isn't "reeling", just noting that "well, it sucks for these people that have to uproot themselves on less than a month's notice in the middle of their studies/practica" - so basically showing a bit of compassion?
Paramount Member	Fri Aug 10 00:46:40 ”Saudi Arabia Is Pulling Thousands of Students From Canada in Escalating Dispute Over Human Rights” http://tim...-students-canada-human-rights/ Haha, Saudi Barbaria is so retarded.
Paramount Member	Fri Aug 10 14:02:29 Rugian Member Wed Aug 08 17:47:04 Remember this? http://www...rump-saudi-arabia-visit-238638 That's called an investment, motherfuckers. One that's now paying out dividends. - - Trump’s been busy putting sanctions on countries, and tariffs on basically every country except Saudi Barbaria and Nazi Israel. This is also an ”investment”, which will also give a ”dividend”. But maybe not the kind of dividend you expect.
Allahuakbar Member	Sun Aug 12 08:32:43 OWNED! http://www...canada-saudi-arabia-support-us ‘We don’t have a single friend’: Canada’s Saudi spat reveals country is alone As Saudi officials lashed out at Canada, the US remained on the sidelines, signaling a blatant shift in the relationship Sat 11 Aug 2018 10.00 BST Soon after Donald Trump took office, it became clear that the longstanding relationship between the United States and its northern neighbour was about to change: there were terse renegotiations of Nafta, thousands of asylum seekers walking across the shared border and attacks on against Canada’s protectionist trade policies. But this week laid bare perhaps the most blatant shift in the relationship, as the US said it would remain on the sidelines while Saudi officials lashed out at Canada over its call to release jailed civil rights activists. “It’s up for the government of Saudi Arabia and the Canadians to work this out,” state department spokeswoman Heather Nauert said this week. “Both sides need to diplomatically resolve this together. We can’t do it for them.” Canada’s lonely stance was swiftly noticed north of the border. “We do not have a single friend in the whole entire world,” Rachel Curran, a policy director under former Canadian prime minister Stephen Harper, lamented on Twitter. The UK was similarly muted in its response, noted Bob Rae, a former leader of the federal Liberal party. “The Brits and the Trumpians run for cover and say ‘we’re friends with both the Saudis and the Canadians,’” Rae wrote on Twitter. “Thanks for the support for human rights, guys, and we’ll remember this one for sure.” The spat appeared to have been sparked last week when Canada’s foreign ministry expressed its concern over the arrest of Saudi civil society and women’s rights activists, in a tweet that echoed concerns previously voiced by the United Nations. Saudi Arabia swiftly shot back, expelling Canada’s ambassador and suspending new trade and investment with Ottawa, making plans to remove thousands of Saudi students and medical patients from Canada, and suspending the state airline’s flights to and from Canada, among other actions. Speaking to reporters in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia’s foreign minister urged Canada to “fix its big mistake” and warned that the kingdom was considering additional measures against Canada. Analysts and regional officials said the spat had little to do with Canada, instead characterising Riyadh’s actions as a broader signal to western governments that any criticism of its domestic policies is unacceptable. Several countries expressed support for Saudi Arabia, including Egypt and Russia. But Canada continued to stand alone, even as state-run media in the kingdom reported the beheading and “crucifixion” of a man convicted of killing a woman and carrying out other crimes. Justin Trudeau, Canada’s prime minister, said Canada was continuing to engage diplomatically and politically with Saudi Arabia. “We have respect for their importance in the world and recognise that they have made progress on a number of important issues,” he told reporters this week. He insisted, however, that his government would continue to press Saudi Arabia on its human rights record. “We will, at the same time, continue to speak clearly and firmly on issues of human rights at home and abroad wherever we see the need.” In this particular dispute, Canada did not need US help, said Thomas Juneau, a professor at the University of Ottawa. “Saudi Arabia-Canada relations are very limited, so there’s not a lot of damage being done to Canada right now,” he said. “But this should be a source of major anxiety: when a real crisis comes and we are alone, what do we do?” The week’s events have added impetus to a conversation that is slowly getting under way in Canada, Juneau said. “We are starting some serious soul-searching in the sense of what does it mean for Canada to have a US that is much more unilateral, much more dismissive of the rules and the norms and of its leadership role in the international order that it has played for 70 years?” These changes south of the border have clearly emboldened Saudi Arabia, Juneau argued, describing the kingdom’s recent actions in Yemen, Qatar and Lebanon as a pattern of aggressive, ambitious and reckless behaviour. He saw no immediate end to the row, particularly as neither side is suffering significant costs in the dispute. Saudi Arabia has shown little inclination in recent years to walk back from its reckless and impulsive behaviour, he said, while Canada’s federal government – facing an election in 14 months and already under fire for signing off on the sale of more than 900 armoured vehicles to Riyadh – is loth to be seen adopting any kind of conciliatory posture towards the conservative kingdom. While some in Canada had been disappointed to see the UK and Europe opt to publicly stay out of the diplomatic spat, Juneau described it as unsurprising. “When Saudi Arabia had comparable fights with Sweden and Germany in recent years, did Canada go out of its way to side with Sweden and Germany? No, not at all,” he said. “We stayed quiet because we had nothing to gain from getting involved. So on the European side, the calculation is the same.” Canada’s lonely stand for women’s rights in the kingdom did earn the support of some around the world; this week saw the Guardian and the New York Times publish editorials urging Europe and the US to stand with Canada. So did the Washington Post, going one step further by publishing their editorial in Arabic. Their call was echoed by a handful of prominent voices in the US, including Bernie Sanders. “It’s entirely legitimate for democratic governments to highlight human rights issues with undemocratic governments,” the US senator wrote on Twitter. “The US must be clear in condemning repression, especially when done by governments that receive our support.”
CrownRoyal Member	Sun Aug 12 13:18:38 Yeah, it is implausible to believe that this Saudi crown prince didn't clear his canada freakout with Donald beforehand. Not that it matters a whole lot, judging how his other signature policies are progressing, Yemen and Qatar embargo. Tgankfully, the wahhabis are not that competent
swordtail Anarchist Prime	Thu Aug 16 09:12:00 John Baird goes on Saudi TV to criticize Trudeau’s handling of dispute http://glo...baird-saudi-arabia-tv-trudeau/
CrownRoyal Member	Thu Aug 16 09:17:47 I hope wahhabis paid John Baird, otherwise he just looks retarded for nothing, considering how he tweeted same thing when he was the FM
Pillz Member	Thu Aug 16 09:44:57 The only reasonable response is to begin publicly funding Houthi-aligned institutions
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