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Pillz
Member Wed Aug 22 21:19:47
The 30 most astounding moments in Rep. Duncan Hunter's 47-page indictment

Analysis by Chris Cillizza, CNN Editor-at-large

Updated 4:55 PM ET, Wed August 22, 2018

(CNN)On Tuesday night, Republican California Rep. Duncan Hunter Jr. was indicted on a series of counts ranging from conspiracy to campaign finance laws, all stemming from the congressman's alleged widespread misuse of campaign cash to pay for his personal life.

The 47-page charging document -- which lays out the allegations against Hunter and his wife -- is absolute fire, portraying a totally out-of-control member of Congress operating in an ethics-free zone. I went through the indictment and plucked out the most amazing moments. They're below.

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The 30 most astounding moments in Rep. Duncan Hunter's 47-page indictment
Analysis by Chris Cillizza, CNN Editor-at-large

Updated 4:55 PM ET, Wed August 22, 2018
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(CNN)On Tuesday night, Republican California Rep. Duncan Hunter Jr. was indicted on a series of counts ranging from conspiracy to campaign finance laws, all stemming from the congressman's alleged widespread misuse of campaign cash to pay for his personal life.

The 47-page charging document -- which lays out the allegations against Hunter and his wife -- is absolute fire, portraying a totally out-of-control member of Congress operating in an ethics-free zone. I went through the indictment and plucked out the most amazing moments. They're below.

CNN's Chris Cillizza cuts through the political spin and tells you what you need to know. By subscribing, you agree to our privacy policy.

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1. "Throughout the relevant period, the Hunters spent substantially more than they earned. They overdrew their bank account more than 1,100 times in a seven-year period resulting in approximately $37,761 in 'overdraft' and 'insufficient funds bank' fees."

Holy crap! In a seven-year period, the Hunters allegedly overdrew their bank account more than 1,000 times! Also, according to the indictment, Hunter had less than $1,000 in reportable assets listed on his personal financial disclosure forms for each year between 2009 and 2016. Talk about living beyond your means!

2. "The Hunters illegally converted and stole more than $250,000 in campaign funds to purchase goods and services for their personal use and enjoyment."

I never understand this. If you want to use $250 from your campaign to buy a few personal items, I get how you can reasonably think you won't get caught. But do you think no one will ever ask questions about $250,000?!?!

3. "Duncan Hunter facilitated the theft of campaign funds by ignoring his campaign staff's multiple warnings about Margaret's improper use of campaign funds, accusing campaign staff of disloyalty by 'trying to create some kind of paper trail on me' when they raised concerns about improper spending, and continually refusing to remove her access to campaign funds."

Ah, the old I'm-not-doing-something-wrong-you're-doing-something-wrong approach! Also, reminder: These people Hunter accused of "trying to create some kind of paper trail" worked for him at the time.

4. "The Hunters concealed and disguised the personal nature of many of their campaign expenditures by either falsely stating the expenses were 'campaign related' or by falsely reporting the item or service purchased when providing information to the Treasurer (by, for example, buying personal clothing items at a golf course so that the purchase could be falsely reported to the Treasurer as 'balls for the wounded warriors')."

Buying golf clothes for yourself and reporting it as buying golf balls for wounder warriors? Oooomph.

5. "The Hunters concealed and disguised the personal nature of their family's purchases of video games using Campaign funds by falsely claiming to a financial institution that the payments were fraudulent charges and then reporting the purchases to the FEC and the public as fraudulent charges."

Video games! And then tell your staff and the public you were hacked! Paging Anthony Weiner....

6. "The Hunters illegally used Campaign funds, among other things, to purchase the following: Hotel rooms, airline tickets and upgrades, meals and food, and entertainment expenses for vacations for themselves and their friends and family, including more than $14,000 for a family Thanksgiving vacation in Italy in November 2015; more than $6,500 for a family vacation to Hawaii in April 2015; more than $3,700 for a family vacation to Las Vegas and Boise in July 2015; more than $2,400 for a Las Vegas couples vacation in August 2011; and more vacations to destinations such as Lake Tahoe, Pittsburgh, London, and Washington."

See point No. 1. These are people living way, way beyond their means. Hawaii in April, Vegas in July and Italy in November? Pretty nice year.

7. "Household and other personal items for their family from a wide variety of stores, such as Costco (where they spent more than $11,300 in Campaign funds), Walmart (where they spent more than $5,700), Barnes Noble (where they spent more than $2,500), Target (where they spent more than $2,300), Michaels craft store (where they spent more than $2,200), and other retailers such as Aaron Brothers, Party City, World Market, Crate & Barrel, Pier 1, Penny, Sears, and Rite Aid."

Look, I get it. Costco is awesome. And those damn massive jars of mustard cost more than you think. But who the hell spends $2,200 at Michaels? Seriously that sounds like a nightmare I had recently.

8. "On or about January 25, 2010, in Incline Village, Nevada, Duncan Hunter spent $1,008.72 in campaign funds at the Hyatt Regency Lake Tahoe Resort, Spa and Casino for food, drinks, and three nights lodging during a personal ski trip with Individual 14. On this day, the Hunter family bank account had a negative balance and incurred six separate insufficient funds fees (totaling $198). Also on this same day, Duncan Hunter withdrew $20 from his personal bank account, leaving a balance of $15.02."

That last line is a dagger. He took $20 out and has $15 -- total! -- in the family bank account.

9. "On or about April 2, 2010, Duncan Hunter claimed a $257.40 reimbursement from Campaign funds for driving his car on a 468-mile trip to Virginia Beach with Individual 14, Congressman A, and Congressman A's date despite the fact that they did not use Duncan car on the trip."

Wait, you have to use the actual car to get reimbursed for the miles? Huh!

10. "On or about May 19, 2010, in Santee, California, Margaret Hunter spent $307.72 in campaign funds at Target to purchase a tablecloth, three square pillows, a three-piece brush set, a metal tray, four temporary shades, four window panels, a white duck, two Punky Brewster items, a ring pop, and two five-packs of 'animals.' In order to conceal and disguise this illegal charge, Hunter falsely told the Treasurer that it was for 'teacher/parent supporter events.'"

Punky Brewster! Soleil Moon Frye! What a blast from the past. Also, I'm interested in knowing more about this "white duck" purchase.

11. "On or about September 13, 2010, in San Diego, California, Duncan Hunter spent $164.29 in Campaign funds for, among other things, a round of golf and beer at Riverwalk Golf Club with Individual 1A. When asked by the Treasurer if this expenditure (among several others) was campaign related, Duncan Hunter falsely responded, 'Yessir- All good.'"

The next time someone asks me if I just broke the law, I am going to respond "Yessir, all good." Amazing.

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More at link. Lol. Just lol

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/22/politics/

Dukhat
Member Wed Aug 22 21:30:51
Republicans don’t get into politics to help people. It’s all about the pursuit of power and money. Been that way ever since Reagan.

kargen
Member Wed Aug 22 21:36:16
Neither do Democrats.

Only difference in a Democrat and a Republican is who they will try to subsidize.

Forwyn
Member Wed Aug 22 21:44:49
"In 2013, Hunter called for the United States to train and arm Syrian rebels and stated his opinion that President Obama would be breaking the law if he bombed Syria without a Congressional mandate, and that it should be considered an impeachable offense.[55][56] In September 2014, however, Hunter voted against a proposal to train and arm Syrian rebels fighting against ISIL extremists, saying that the proposal failed to go far enough."

Shoot him

tumbleweed
the wanderer Wed Aug 22 22:11:02
"This is the Democrats' arm of law enforcement. That's what's happening right now. It's happening with Trump. It's happening with me."
~ sleazebag Hunter, trying to sweep the Trump idiots to his side

a good reason why people ought to start caring about Trump's constant false smearing of the Justice Dept

kargen
Member Thu Aug 23 01:18:58
His claim stems from the fact that he was the 2nd to endorse Trump and he and the first to endorse are finding their asses in hot water.

I don't think his support of President Trump has anything to do with it. Sounds like he is an idiot and is lucky he didn't get caught a lot sooner.

tumbleweed
the wanderer Thu Aug 23 01:20:56
criminals are attracted to Trump

or everyone is a criminal... maybe Mueller should investigate every politician

kargen
Member Thu Aug 23 02:43:58
or assign someone to do it.

tumbleweed
the wanderer Thu Aug 23 11:22:27
yeah, shouldn't be Mueller or every politician would suddenly find him disgraced & discredited like Trump trash do

obaminated
Member Thu Aug 23 15:07:22
looks like a corrupt politician, this is disappointing, he seemed like a quality guy.

Rugian
Member Thu Aug 23 17:39:46
They're all corrupt politicians. The difference is this one had the audacity to support Trump.

obaminated
Member Thu Aug 23 17:41:08
Said the guy about to go full on rambo in the forested hills of Boston.

Rugian
Member Thu Aug 23 17:43:19
Ahem...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forest_Hills%2C_Boston

obaminated
Member Thu Aug 23 17:44:47
Fake news.

tumbleweed
the wanderer Fri Aug 24 11:24:39
Duncan Hunter is blaming his wife for all spending issues... and that all the trips were fundraisers... Italy?

Pillz
Member Fri Aug 24 11:52:23
Read the CNN story. They cover the Italy a few times. All pure gold

Rugian
Member Fri Aug 24 11:58:19
Maybe he was campaigning among Italians that were en route for Ellis Island.

murder
Member Fri Aug 24 12:59:30

Throwing his wife under the bus! lol :o)

kargen
Member Fri Aug 24 13:59:16
I think the strategy is they blame each other causing reasonable doubt so they both get away with it.

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Pillz Member	Wed Aug 22 21:19:47 The 30 most astounding moments in Rep. Duncan Hunter's 47-page indictment Analysis by Chris Cillizza, CNN Editor-at-large Updated 4:55 PM ET, Wed August 22, 2018 (CNN)On Tuesday night, Republican California Rep. Duncan Hunter Jr. was indicted on a series of counts ranging from conspiracy to campaign finance laws, all stemming from the congressman's alleged widespread misuse of campaign cash to pay for his personal life. The 47-page charging document -- which lays out the allegations against Hunter and his wife -- is absolute fire, portraying a totally out-of-control member of Congress operating in an ethics-free zone. I went through the indictment and plucked out the most amazing moments. They're below. Search CNN... 45 CONGRESS SUPREME COURT 2018 KEY RACES PRIMARY RESULTS The 30 most astounding moments in Rep. Duncan Hunter's 47-page indictment Analysis by Chris Cillizza, CNN Editor-at-large Updated 4:55 PM ET, Wed August 22, 2018 GOP rep. indicted for misuse of campaign funds Play Video GOP rep. indicted for misuse of campaign funds 02:36 (CNN)On Tuesday night, Republican California Rep. Duncan Hunter Jr. was indicted on a series of counts ranging from conspiracy to campaign finance laws, all stemming from the congressman's alleged widespread misuse of campaign cash to pay for his personal life. The 47-page charging document -- which lays out the allegations against Hunter and his wife -- is absolute fire, portraying a totally out-of-control member of Congress operating in an ethics-free zone. I went through the indictment and plucked out the most amazing moments. They're below. CNN's Chris Cillizza cuts through the political spin and tells you what you need to know. By subscribing, you agree to our privacy policy. Enter email address 1. "Throughout the relevant period, the Hunters spent substantially more than they earned. They overdrew their bank account more than 1,100 times in a seven-year period resulting in approximately $37,761 in 'overdraft' and 'insufficient funds bank' fees." Holy crap! In a seven-year period, the Hunters allegedly overdrew their bank account more than 1,000 times! Also, according to the indictment, Hunter had less than $1,000 in reportable assets listed on his personal financial disclosure forms for each year between 2009 and 2016. Talk about living beyond your means! 2. "The Hunters illegally converted and stole more than $250,000 in campaign funds to purchase goods and services for their personal use and enjoyment." I never understand this. If you want to use $250 from your campaign to buy a few personal items, I get how you can reasonably think you won't get caught. But do you think no one will ever ask questions about $250,000?!?! 3. "Duncan Hunter facilitated the theft of campaign funds by ignoring his campaign staff's multiple warnings about Margaret's improper use of campaign funds, accusing campaign staff of disloyalty by 'trying to create some kind of paper trail on me' when they raised concerns about improper spending, and continually refusing to remove her access to campaign funds." Ah, the old I'm-not-doing-something-wrong-you're-doing-something-wrong approach! Also, reminder: These people Hunter accused of "trying to create some kind of paper trail" worked for him at the time. 4. "The Hunters concealed and disguised the personal nature of many of their campaign expenditures by either falsely stating the expenses were 'campaign related' or by falsely reporting the item or service purchased when providing information to the Treasurer (by, for example, buying personal clothing items at a golf course so that the purchase could be falsely reported to the Treasurer as 'balls for the wounded warriors')." Buying golf clothes for yourself and reporting it as buying golf balls for wounder warriors? Oooomph. 5. "The Hunters concealed and disguised the personal nature of their family's purchases of video games using Campaign funds by falsely claiming to a financial institution that the payments were fraudulent charges and then reporting the purchases to the FEC and the public as fraudulent charges." Video games! And then tell your staff and the public you were hacked! Paging Anthony Weiner.... 6. "The Hunters illegally used Campaign funds, among other things, to purchase the following: Hotel rooms, airline tickets and upgrades, meals and food, and entertainment expenses for vacations for themselves and their friends and family, including more than $14,000 for a family Thanksgiving vacation in Italy in November 2015; more than $6,500 for a family vacation to Hawaii in April 2015; more than $3,700 for a family vacation to Las Vegas and Boise in July 2015; more than $2,400 for a Las Vegas couples vacation in August 2011; and more vacations to destinations such as Lake Tahoe, Pittsburgh, London, and Washington." See point No. 1. These are people living way, way beyond their means. Hawaii in April, Vegas in July and Italy in November? Pretty nice year. 7. "Household and other personal items for their family from a wide variety of stores, such as Costco (where they spent more than $11,300 in Campaign funds), Walmart (where they spent more than $5,700), Barnes Noble (where they spent more than $2,500), Target (where they spent more than $2,300), Michaels craft store (where they spent more than $2,200), and other retailers such as Aaron Brothers, Party City, World Market, Crate & Barrel, Pier 1, Penny, Sears, and Rite Aid." Look, I get it. Costco is awesome. And those damn massive jars of mustard cost more than you think. But who the hell spends $2,200 at Michaels? Seriously that sounds like a nightmare I had recently. 8. "On or about January 25, 2010, in Incline Village, Nevada, Duncan Hunter spent $1,008.72 in campaign funds at the Hyatt Regency Lake Tahoe Resort, Spa and Casino for food, drinks, and three nights lodging during a personal ski trip with Individual 14. On this day, the Hunter family bank account had a negative balance and incurred six separate insufficient funds fees (totaling $198). Also on this same day, Duncan Hunter withdrew $20 from his personal bank account, leaving a balance of $15.02." That last line is a dagger. He took $20 out and has $15 -- total! -- in the family bank account. 9. "On or about April 2, 2010, Duncan Hunter claimed a $257.40 reimbursement from Campaign funds for driving his car on a 468-mile trip to Virginia Beach with Individual 14, Congressman A, and Congressman A's date despite the fact that they did not use Duncan car on the trip." Wait, you have to use the actual car to get reimbursed for the miles? Huh! 10. "On or about May 19, 2010, in Santee, California, Margaret Hunter spent $307.72 in campaign funds at Target to purchase a tablecloth, three square pillows, a three-piece brush set, a metal tray, four temporary shades, four window panels, a white duck, two Punky Brewster items, a ring pop, and two five-packs of 'animals.' In order to conceal and disguise this illegal charge, Hunter falsely told the Treasurer that it was for 'teacher/parent supporter events.'" Punky Brewster! Soleil Moon Frye! What a blast from the past. Also, I'm interested in knowing more about this "white duck" purchase. 11. "On or about September 13, 2010, in San Diego, California, Duncan Hunter spent $164.29 in Campaign funds for, among other things, a round of golf and beer at Riverwalk Golf Club with Individual 1A. When asked by the Treasurer if this expenditure (among several others) was campaign related, Duncan Hunter falsely responded, 'Yessir- All good.'" The next time someone asks me if I just broke the law, I am going to respond "Yessir, all good." Amazing. ----- More at link. Lol. Just lol https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/22/politics/
Dukhat Member	Wed Aug 22 21:30:51 Republicans don’t get into politics to help people. It’s all about the pursuit of power and money. Been that way ever since Reagan.
kargen Member	Wed Aug 22 21:36:16 Neither do Democrats. Only difference in a Democrat and a Republican is who they will try to subsidize.
Forwyn Member	Wed Aug 22 21:44:49 "In 2013, Hunter called for the United States to train and arm Syrian rebels and stated his opinion that President Obama would be breaking the law if he bombed Syria without a Congressional mandate, and that it should be considered an impeachable offense.[55][56] In September 2014, however, Hunter voted against a proposal to train and arm Syrian rebels fighting against ISIL extremists, saying that the proposal failed to go far enough." Shoot him
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Aug 22 22:11:02 "This is the Democrats' arm of law enforcement. That's what's happening right now. It's happening with Trump. It's happening with me." ~ sleazebag Hunter, trying to sweep the Trump idiots to his side a good reason why people ought to start caring about Trump's constant false smearing of the Justice Dept
kargen Member	Thu Aug 23 01:18:58 His claim stems from the fact that he was the 2nd to endorse Trump and he and the first to endorse are finding their asses in hot water. I don't think his support of President Trump has anything to do with it. Sounds like he is an idiot and is lucky he didn't get caught a lot sooner.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Aug 23 01:20:56 criminals are attracted to Trump or everyone is a criminal... maybe Mueller should investigate every politician
kargen Member	Thu Aug 23 02:43:58 or assign someone to do it.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Aug 23 11:22:27 yeah, shouldn't be Mueller or every politician would suddenly find him disgraced & discredited like Trump trash do
obaminated Member	Thu Aug 23 15:07:22 looks like a corrupt politician, this is disappointing, he seemed like a quality guy.
Rugian Member	Thu Aug 23 17:39:46 They're all corrupt politicians. The difference is this one had the audacity to support Trump.
obaminated Member	Thu Aug 23 17:41:08 Said the guy about to go full on rambo in the forested hills of Boston.
Rugian Member	Thu Aug 23 17:43:19 Ahem... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forest_Hills%2C_Boston
obaminated Member	Thu Aug 23 17:44:47 Fake news.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Aug 24 11:24:39 Duncan Hunter is blaming his wife for all spending issues... and that all the trips were fundraisers... Italy?
Pillz Member	Fri Aug 24 11:52:23 Read the CNN story. They cover the Italy a few times. All pure gold
Rugian Member	Fri Aug 24 11:58:19 Maybe he was campaigning among Italians that were en route for Ellis Island.
murder Member	Fri Aug 24 12:59:30 Throwing his wife under the bus! lol :o)
kargen Member	Fri Aug 24 13:59:16 I think the strategy is they blame each other causing reasonable doubt so they both get away with it.
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