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patom
Member
Sun Aug 26 03:48:49
May God take you to a better place.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun Aug 26 04:49:55

R.I.P.

Forwyn
Member
Sun Aug 26 08:56:40
RIP Abdullah Issa, beheaded by Johnny's friends
Allahuakbar
Member
Sun Aug 26 10:07:01
RIP old friend!
smart dude
Member
Sun Aug 26 11:48:21
“He’s not a war hero. He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”

-dumbass
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun Aug 26 12:05:23

Most of the United States Citizens then or now had any idea that he gave up an early release because he did not want to be released until all of the prisoners were released and that he did not want to be a political token.

I doubt seriously Trump would not have said what he did had he known. I only found out about it a few years ago myself.



BTW, did you notice when he voted on the Bill to replace Obamacare. I think that was what he was voting on.

He had a grin on his face like he just got caught with his hand in the cookie jar. No way of knowing for sure, but he may very well have taken out his ire against The American People for what Trump said about him.

If that is what he did I can only assume that his illness caused him to do it. I don't believe McCain was that kind of man.

Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun Aug 26 12:25:43
*-I doubt seriously Trump would have said...
Rugian
Member
Sun Aug 26 12:30:50
"What do you know about who belongs to what? You been away 20 years!"

"Which entitles me to earn!"

"Which entitles you to shit. In my book, you get points for staying OUTTA the can."

-A wise man

patom
Member
Sun Aug 26 16:22:19
Hot Rod, what low statement if any will the Twitterman ever make that you won't be able to excuse or make a lame excuse for him?

McCain was not that kind of man. Nope he wasn't ever an oxygen thief like the Twitterman. He put country before himself or Party. Something that you can rest assured the Twitterman will NEVER do.
smart dude
Member
Sun Aug 26 16:57:07
"I doubt seriously Trump would not have said what he did had he known."

That's because you're delusional.

"I only found out about it a few years ago myself."

That's because you're uneducated.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Aug 26 16:59:53
also... did Trump ever apologize? no... did he ever consider it? very doubtful

did Trump celebrate when he heard of the death? almost certainly

Trump is garbage
Forwyn
Member
Sun Aug 26 17:17:42
^was undoubtedly talking mad shit about McCain in '08 when he was a RP fan, b-b-but muh anti-Trumpism redeems him!
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Aug 26 17:20:25
i liked McCain... except moments in his campaign where he went nutty, which was probably during primaries when you have to be a nut to win the R primary
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun Aug 26 17:28:46

He seldom apologizes, he has always been that way.


As soon as he heard he had The White House Fag lowered to half-staff and he sent a message of condolence.

McCain did not want him at his funeral and Trump will honor his wish.

Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun Aug 26 17:35:06

Fido, are you going to sit there and tell us you know everything there is to know about everyone.


If so, here is a question for you.

Who played the part in the movie about the most decorated hero in American history and what was the name of the movie.

That should be easy, I have posted about it in this forum several times.

Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun Aug 26 17:39:57

Evidentally liberals must insist on making every thread a battle no matter who the person is.?


Should I remember and when one of you guys post about someone you think deserves a little respect?

McKobb
Member
Sun Aug 26 17:57:38
RIP
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Aug 26 18:11:46
there is no chance lowering the flag was Trump's idea

i have no idea why you think he has any adult behaviors
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun Aug 26 18:47:59

He is one helluva lot more mature than you are sonny.



patom - Hot Rod, what low statement if any will the Twitterman ever make that you won't be able to excuse or make a lame excuse for him?


So far I have seen very little, if anything, that I have not seen some of the posters on this forum say they have done or would do.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Aug 26 19:37:04
find any video of him demonstrating maturity or respect...
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun Aug 26 20:08:57

Is that why you hate him so much?

Because he is not as rigid as a "normal" politician? You should stop and realize he is much more like the common man than that.


As for respect, show me, someone, that he has attacked that has not attacked him first.

They are few and far between. McCain is the only one I can think of and that is probably ignorance instead of malice.

Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun Aug 26 20:11:43

tw - find any video of him demonstrating maturity or respect...


BTW, you find very little, if any, maturity or respect on this forum do you?

patom
Member
Sun Aug 26 20:35:40
Hot Rod, "So far I have seen very little, if anything, that I have not seen some of the posters on this forum say they have done or would do."

Are any of the posters here running for President of the United States?

Has anyone here made fun of a handicapped reporter on National TV?

Have any of us tried to denigrate a Gold Star Mother on National TV?

Have any of us claimed or corroborated the Twittermans claim that he witnessed hundreds of Muslims celebrating the fall of the WTC in the streets in New Jersey?

I don't believe even you have done any of these things.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun Aug 26 20:36:56

Ias this what you guys are worried about?


""In my view: the Senate Judiciary Committee should immediately pause the consideration of the Kavanaugh nomination," Schumer declared. "The majority of the Senate still has not seen the bulk of Judge Kavanaugh's record. At the very least, the very least, it is unseemly for the President of the United States to be picking a Supreme Court Justice who could soon be, effectively, a juror in a case involving the president himself."


http://www...cted_co-conspirator_trump.html



Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun Aug 26 20:51:57

"Are any of the posters here running for President of the United States?"

I was referring to racism and the attitudes towards women. I thought that is what you meant too.


"Has anyone here made fun of a handicapped reporter on National TV?"

I'm handicapped and true, they don't make fun of me, they just want me to die. And let's not forget the gentleman that Biden asked to stand up and take a bow.



"Have any of us tried to denigrate a Gold Star Mother on National TV?"


I have never seen him be anything but kind and appreciative of Gold Star Mothers.



"Have any of us claimed or corroborated the Twittermans claim that he witnessed hundreds of Muslims celebrating the fall of the WTC in the streets in New Jersey?"


Yes, he may have exaggerated a bit there. Personally, I saw quite a few Palestinians dancing and celebrating the WTC on TV.


I'm getting ready to watch Mark Levine on FOX. Candice Owens will be on. She is a treat to watch even if you disagree with her. She is young, but she is a powerful speaker.

Later.


tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Aug 26 21:19:32
"show me, someone, that he has attacked that has not attacked him first"

Sessions, Rosenstein, Comey, McCabe, NFL kneelers, Kristen Stewart
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun Aug 26 21:31:27

Do you really expect him to keep his mouth shut when people are not doing the jobs they were hired to do or if their lies are hurting America?


Did you know that Candace Owens and a co-worker were having breakfast a week or so ago and when they left they were accosted by a group of Antifas that had the audacity to call her a White Supremacist?


tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Aug 26 21:46:02
"And I watched in Jersey City, N.J., where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down. Thousands of people were cheering."

...there's been no video of anyone cheering on NJ rooftops

that's quite an 'exaggeration'

was part of his attacks on muslims... as was the gold star mother thing where he suggested 'maybe she wasn't allowed to speak'

and he claimed muslims living in the neighborhood of terrorists all know what the terrorists are up to

which was the point of his total bullshit lie about the San Bernardino terrorists that he told rally after rally, claiming people saw bombs all over the place & didn't report it
(there is no evidence of that at all... police found bombs... they did not claim they were on display openly for any visitors & a safe bet they were not... it was neighbors who saw a group of muslim men & didn't report it as the seed of his lie)


Trump is essentially the old woman in the well-known McCain video where she says Obama is a scary arab & McCain says 'no, he's not, he's a fine man' yadda yadda

no way Trump would do that or anything else respectable, he is & will remain total trash
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Aug 26 21:50:53
-not doing the jobs they were hired to do
-lies are hurting America

*that's Trump


i've never heard of Candace Owens... she probably posted her location & asked protesters to come...
Forwyn
Member
Sun Aug 26 22:03:17
Imagine thinking that a flag needs to be lowered for a fucking Senator dying of natural causes
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun Aug 26 22:16:31

She belongs to a group called Turning Point. She is the one that Kanye West was talking about when he said something to the effect that she is telling the truth.


"Charlie Kirk founded Turning Point USA in 2012, when he was 18 years old. At the 2012 Republican National Convention, Kirk met Foster Friess, a prominent Republican donor, and persuaded him to finance the organization.[7][8] Friess also serves on the organization's advisory council, alongside Ginni Thomas, wife of US Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas.[9]

Turning Point USA's website says the organization has more than 300 chapters in colleges and high schools[10] and a "presence" in over 1,000.[11]

Turning Point holds several annual national conferences, including the Young Women's Leadership Summit (YWLS)[12] and the Young Latino Leadership Summit.[13] The National Rifle Association was the headline sponsor of the YWLS in 2017 and 2018.[12][14] According to The New York Times, YWLS "styles itself as an alternative to a liberal culture of feminism that many Republicans characterize as oppressive" and had by 2018 "evolved into an ultra-Trumpian event complete with 'lock her up' chants and vulgar T-shirts disparaging Hillary Clinton."[12] Candace Owens, who days prior to the 2018 conference stirred controversy by saying "the entire premise of #metoo is that women are stupid, weak, and inconsequential", was greeted with a standing ovation at the conference.[12]

Turning Point hosts an annual retreat; in West Palm Beach, Florida; in 2016 the event was sponsored by a dozen conservative groups, including FreedomWorks.[15]"


WIKI


Does she look like a White Supremacist to you?


http://en....e_Owens_by_Gage_Skidmore_2.jpg


tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Aug 26 22:54:48
so maybe they went to an Antifa protest and pretended Antifa was there for them

also who cares... a bunch of nobodies yelling at nobodies



and speaking of the flag, here's Trump coloring it wrong presumably during executive play time

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/DlZ1ychUcAAtKp-.jpg

note the blue stripe... traitor
Dukhat
Member
Sun Aug 26 23:10:47
LoL, I hate Trump too but that could easily be him sitting in front of a kid's drawing or any other combination. Cuckservatives love to point to one-ofs like that and scream about bias and how Trump is being treated unfairly.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Aug 26 23:16:20
yeah, i wasn't too serious about it... BUT decided to check into it...

a damning photo:
http://com...78-44a2-9432-4304cb5cf4fc.jpeg

same kids, same flag but uncolored, red marker in his tiny fingers moving in... & we know he loves markers
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Aug 26 23:22:06
omg, smoking gun...
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/DlaPS5TV4AA6d56.jpg

flag-gate!
obaminated
Member
Sun Aug 26 23:23:57
one has to wonder what is going to happen to TW when trump gets reelected. At this point it is no longer a funny "hah, man he is obsessed" to now being "this guy has a serious mental problem".
Dukhat
Member
Sun Aug 26 23:28:24
TBH, in situations like that I would just turn my brain off and do whatever the kid wanted. Who cares about some coloring book.
Dukhat
Member
Sun Aug 26 23:30:39
Ah yes, Obaminated trying to pull a variation of the Bush Derangement Syndrome and paste it onto Trump.

Low-class, unedcuated guys are going to hate the next recession when there is no money to fight it.

But being retards, they'll probably blame the Democrats that will be in charge rather than the Republicans that caused it; just like the great recession.

So congrats on being stubborn idiot.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Aug 26 23:39:56
history will show that the people freaking out about Trump's total unfitness for office were in the right

...unless Trump completely destroys civilization
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Aug 26 23:57:03
completely believable:

Trump rejected plans for a White House statement praising McCain

http://www...ent-praising-mccain/ar-BBMtLyb

all day was tributes to McCain... all Trump has is that 'thoughts & prayers' bs to the family last night

any normal White House would've done what everyone but petty child Trump wanted to do
jergul
large member
Mon Aug 27 00:55:56
I used to love to hate that guy.
McKobb
Member
Mon Aug 27 01:03:52
That guy has no respect, he was really really sad McCain gets more attention than him.
jergul
large member
Mon Aug 27 01:11:13
Not that guy. That guy.
Dukhat
Member
Mon Aug 27 03:09:54
It’s why alec baldwin’s trump isn’t funny anymore. The real trump becomes an even bigger caricature day by day.
murder
Member
Mon Aug 27 07:45:19

White House flag back at full mast.

Trump may not be King of the United States, but he is King of Petty.

Hot Rod
Revved Up
Mon Aug 27 11:13:31

Maybe, President Trump, is a tad miffed that McCain took their battle to the grave with him.


Perhaps.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Aug 27 11:16:33
and Trump continued attacking him to the end (w/ his bullshit lie that McCain stopped repeal)
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Mon Aug 27 11:29:07

He did.

McCains vote was the last one and it was televised.

You should have seen the shit eating grin on his face. I don't know for sure, obviously, why he voted that way, but I would put money that he was thinking, 'that will fix him.'

Of course, that would mean he didn't give a thought as to how much it would hurt The American People.

murder
Member
Mon Aug 27 11:35:39

"Maybe, President Trump, is a tad miffed that McCain took their battle to the grave with him."

Maybe, but the presidency isn't his to do with as he feels.

Hot Rod
Revved Up
Mon Aug 27 11:43:45

There is not much he can't do.

murder
Member
Mon Aug 27 11:52:46

Actually there's tons that he can't do. People just have to stand up to him.

swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Mon Aug 27 11:58:10
MCCAIN: A One-Man Case for Term Limits

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DhBrTtn2Ho
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Aug 27 12:02:37
not that it will make any difference but I'll explain again

that bill was the 'skinny' repeal and multiple Senators only agreed to vote for it on the PROMISE that the House would NOT pass it (meaning they would change it) if they changed it, it would have to go back to Senate, and probably fail again just like all of the others had

listening to Trumps constant lies, you'd think that if McCain voted for it, Obamacare would've been repealed
Forwyn
Member
Mon Aug 27 14:02:16
"White House flag back at full mast."

Day of death + 1 day for sitting Congressman, per USC
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Aug 27 14:26:01
it required a proclamation by Trump to stay down til internment... which would've had to have nice words so no chance of that

Barbara Bush got one
http://www...lf-staff-passing-barbara-bush/
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Aug 27 14:46:06
ha, Trump caved to bad news coverage... flag lowered again


here was the American Legion calling him a dickbag:
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/DloA33dWwAEhfiP.jpg
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Aug 27 14:48:16
Trump probably has locked himself in the bathroom pouting about the language for the proclamation
Forwyn
Member
Mon Aug 27 16:10:00
"Barbara Bush got one"

Well-liked first lady > career Senator who spent his twilight years arming our enemies
Paramount
Member
Mon Aug 27 16:12:48
Meanwhile, Dishonest Donald is dancing with and arming the Saudi Barbarians.
delude
Member
Mon Aug 27 16:27:10
Forwyn acts like McCain is the only that has done this....
Forwyn
Member
Mon Aug 27 16:28:08
Nah, I'll cheer for Graham's death too, don't worry.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Aug 27 16:33:36
as w/ Brennan, your opinion isn't that relevant

look at Trump's petty child motives, did he ever complain about McCain for your reasons? or any good reasons...

Trump's current wife managed to say something nice, his daughter, his press secretary, his VP... not Trump... nope... gotta sit w/ arms-crossed
Jewgle
Member
Mon Aug 27 16:38:31
So while Trump is cozying up to our enemies. Forwyn is fine with it.
Forwyn
Member
Mon Aug 27 17:22:39
Undoubtedly Trump's beef is more personal, and yes, childish - dossier and Obamacare votes at forefront.

"So while Trump is cozying up to our enemies."

Saudi Arabia? I've voiced pretty strong concerns with our love affair with them; Trump's actions fit the status quo, unfortunately.

Russia? Meh. They're on the right side of history in Syria, their Ukraine shenanigans don't affect us in the slightest, and "muh mastermind facebook astroturfing" isn't anything more than we've done to them and others.

Hot Rod
Revved Up
Mon Aug 27 17:40:07

They were talking about Mcain earlier about how he was nasty to a lot of people.

If he can be nasty and call people names for no reason, why can't President Trump?

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Aug 27 18:01:18
because McCain could leave that mode? & was out of it 99.9% of the time

also, get ready for a Senate building named after McCain :p (currently named after a segregationist, probably won't be a hard vote)
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Mon Aug 27 18:17:51

Yeah, I heard they were going to do that but they didn't have much in the way of details.



I have an old Orson Wells/Joseph Cotton movie on.
One of the characters said they should make the women fight the wars. Sounds good to me.

What say you?

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Aug 27 18:44:09
everyone in congress who votes for the war should have to send a family member (& the president should too)

Trump would send Tiffany... or the kid he had w/ the maid...
Dukhat
Member
Mon Aug 27 18:47:10
Forwyn is such a spineless cuck. Literally tit for tat agreement with every other cuckservative manipulated by Russian Trolls and their own ignorance.
Forwyn
Member
Mon Aug 27 20:39:47
Apparently muh Ruskie facebook astroturfing didn't do its job, as I voted straight L.

But at least I didn't donate to Shill Stein, Putin's favorite straw candidate. Good job enabling Trump, Cuckhat.
murder
Member
Tue Aug 28 06:36:02

Trump caved like a bitch and was forced to vomit out a few words of praise for McCain ...

That's for those of you who really believe that Trump is a tough guy, and doesn't get pushed around, and sticks to his guns.

All Trump has to hear is "bad polling" or "bad ratings", and he gives way.

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