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patom
Member Wed Oct 03 14:23:48
taking my afternoon nap and something starts making a buzzing noise on my desk. I think my PC must be going nuts so I turn it off. Then the buzzing starts again and I realize that I must have left my cell phone on when I got home from the store.
I open it up and it's a Presidential Alert. What in the fuck do I need to be alerted about from this orange faced jackass?
As it is I have to force myself to not shoot the TV when this pompous jackass is on and spewing his bull shit.
Now the prick is using cell phones to piss me off???
So any bets on how long it is before he declares Marshall Law via cell phones?

hood
Member Wed Oct 03 14:26:36
It's testing fema emergency alerts, ya overly touchy git.

Paramount
Member Wed Oct 03 14:28:14
Presidential Alert... is it like a popup ad? Trump can create popup ads on your iphone?

tumbleweed
the wanderer Wed Oct 03 14:32:03
wait for the 3am "WITCH HUNT!" text while he's on the toilet

but it's meant to be for emergencies, presumably no one will tell Trump how to use it himself... unlike what would be needed w/ any other president ever

State Department
Member Wed Oct 03 15:30:44
Thanks, Obama!

kargen
Member Wed Oct 03 16:04:03
It is not something the president can use on a whim. He isn't the one that activates the system. THe law pertaining to this says "Except to the extent necessary for testing the public alert and warning system, the public alert and warning system shall not be used to transmit a message that does not relate to a natural disaster, act of terrorism, or other man-made disaster or threat to public safety."

If there is reason to send an alert there is specific ways the message must be written. Chances are it would be written by a member of the white house staff and then approved by the president. Once approved it would be sent to FEMA then the president would need to contact FEMA to authorize the alert actually being sent. So unlike twitter there would be filters in place.

Forwyn
Member Wed Oct 03 16:10:37
"Marshall Law"

rofl

Cthulhu
Tentacle Rapist Wed Oct 03 16:21:34
I don't know what Marshall Law is but I bet it's better than Martial Law!

Average Ameriacn
Member Wed Oct 03 16:34:24
Is there any way to save the alert for future generations or print it?

Im better then you
2012 UP Football Champ Wed Oct 03 16:36:58
So patom was sleeping at his desk sleeping and was awaken by President Trump saying that Brandon Marshall of the Seattle Sea-hawks was now in charge.

Hot Rod
Revved Up Wed Oct 03 16:38:31

kargen nailed it.

This is something that has been in the works for a long time.

It is designed to save your life.

And no, No President will be able to use it for anything other than a major emergency.

hood
Member Wed Oct 03 17:18:59
Excuse you. I nailed it.

Im better then you
2012 UP Football Champ Wed Oct 03 18:34:48
You nailed it about as hard as Trump nailed Stormy.

Which is to say weakly, foolishly, and felt so insecure about it that you offered to pay her for her trouble.

Wrath of Orion
Member Wed Oct 03 19:07:44
Goddamn, that OP contained more misplaced curmudgeonly rage than even Retard Rod can usually muster. Didn't you watch the first ep of AHS Apocalypse? That's what it's for.

Hot Rod
Revved Up Wed Oct 03 19:08:50

hood, yours was more a thumbtack.

kargen gave a much more detailed description.

hood
Member Wed Oct 03 20:10:51
It was entirely unnecessary description, considering "FEMA test alert" is literally all that is needed.

Pillz
Member Wed Oct 03 21:23:17
But it is Obama fault right?

Hot Rod
Revved Up Wed Oct 03 21:39:32

So The President can use it to raise campaign funds?

That is what Obama would have done with it.

Cthulhu
Tentacle Rapist Thu Oct 04 12:26:38
Obama would not have been able to.

Have you ever heard of checks and balances before Hot Rod?

You seem to think the POTUS is all powerful.

Hot Rod
Revved Up Thu Oct 04 12:33:55

Have you ever heard of almost every member of Obama's cabinet signing off on selling a substantial amount of our uranium to Russia?

hood
Member Thu Oct 04 12:41:36
Not an ounce of uranium ever left the United States due to that deal.

Hot Rod
Revved Up Thu Oct 04 12:45:57

So they say.

patom
Member Thu Oct 04 13:09:05
So, this 'Presidential' alert thing. Does this mean that all alerts must be vetted by the POTUS?

I realize that the Twitterman thinks, as do his followers, that he is all knowing and all expert on everything. So does it follow that since he has labeled this as "Presidential" all alerts must pass his muster?

Hot Rod
Revved Up Thu Oct 04 13:17:27

I think that will be the SOP.

The President will be the one person that is best for making the decision to use it. He/She will be briefed on every available detail.

I can't imagine a full national alert. Most of them will be local ones such as for storms or flooding. That sort of thing.

patom
Member Thu Oct 04 17:25:12
So if the Neshaminy Creek is flooding in Bucks county, they will notify the POTUS and he will do an analysis of the situation and then issue a Presidential alert to warn the residents along the creek to move to higher ground.

Will that be before or after the Twitterman finishes his round of golf?

Hot Rod
Revved Up Thu Oct 04 20:22:37

I'm not sure about you creek, but Trump might have used it in North Carolina if the system had been read.

Hot Rod
Revved Up Thu Oct 04 20:29:53
*-your creek

patom
Member Thu Oct 04 21:22:19
So you are saying that the President is now the one to announce a hurricane like Florence. When everyone in North America and probably the world had watched it develop off the coast of Africa and slowly move across the Atlantic?

Well isn't he special.

kargen
Member Thu Oct 04 22:25:40
No the hurricane a flood or anything like that would be normal alerts issued in the affected areas. The only example they have provided of when such an alert might have been used if available in our recent past was 9/11.

FEMA is more associated with local events and that is why this alert does not include the name FEMA even though FEMA is the issuing agency.

As an aside the act creating this was voted on in 2015. Prior to 2015 President Obama and congress set aside funding for wireless phone carriers to improve infrastructure so 9-1-1 and this system would work better in rural areas. Instead of improving infrastructure the phone companies bought up smaller companies to increase their customer base. The test message did not reach near all those it should have if the phone companies had done as they said they would with the government funds. So chances are we the people are going to be giving them even more money.

Hot Rod
Revved Up Fri Oct 05 05:21:05

Cool.

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patom Member	Wed Oct 03 14:23:48 taking my afternoon nap and something starts making a buzzing noise on my desk. I think my PC must be going nuts so I turn it off. Then the buzzing starts again and I realize that I must have left my cell phone on when I got home from the store. I open it up and it's a Presidential Alert. What in the fuck do I need to be alerted about from this orange faced jackass? As it is I have to force myself to not shoot the TV when this pompous jackass is on and spewing his bull shit. Now the prick is using cell phones to piss me off??? So any bets on how long it is before he declares Marshall Law via cell phones?
hood Member	Wed Oct 03 14:26:36 It's testing fema emergency alerts, ya overly touchy git.
Paramount Member	Wed Oct 03 14:28:14 Presidential Alert... is it like a popup ad? Trump can create popup ads on your iphone?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Oct 03 14:32:03 wait for the 3am "WITCH HUNT!" text while he's on the toilet but it's meant to be for emergencies, presumably no one will tell Trump how to use it himself... unlike what would be needed w/ any other president ever
State Department Member	Wed Oct 03 15:30:44 Thanks, Obama!
kargen Member	Wed Oct 03 16:04:03 It is not something the president can use on a whim. He isn't the one that activates the system. THe law pertaining to this says "Except to the extent necessary for testing the public alert and warning system, the public alert and warning system shall not be used to transmit a message that does not relate to a natural disaster, act of terrorism, or other man-made disaster or threat to public safety." If there is reason to send an alert there is specific ways the message must be written. Chances are it would be written by a member of the white house staff and then approved by the president. Once approved it would be sent to FEMA then the president would need to contact FEMA to authorize the alert actually being sent. So unlike twitter there would be filters in place.
Forwyn Member	Wed Oct 03 16:10:37 "Marshall Law" rofl
Cthulhu Tentacle Rapist	Wed Oct 03 16:21:34 I don't know what Marshall Law is but I bet it's better than Martial Law!
Average Ameriacn Member	Wed Oct 03 16:34:24 Is there any way to save the alert for future generations or print it?
Im better then you 2012 UP Football Champ	Wed Oct 03 16:36:58 So patom was sleeping at his desk sleeping and was awaken by President Trump saying that Brandon Marshall of the Seattle Sea-hawks was now in charge.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Wed Oct 03 16:38:31 kargen nailed it. This is something that has been in the works for a long time. It is designed to save your life. And no, No President will be able to use it for anything other than a major emergency.
hood Member	Wed Oct 03 17:18:59 Excuse you. I nailed it.
Im better then you 2012 UP Football Champ	Wed Oct 03 18:34:48 You nailed it about as hard as Trump nailed Stormy. Which is to say weakly, foolishly, and felt so insecure about it that you offered to pay her for her trouble.
Wrath of Orion Member	Wed Oct 03 19:07:44 Goddamn, that OP contained more misplaced curmudgeonly rage than even Retard Rod can usually muster. Didn't you watch the first ep of AHS Apocalypse? That's what it's for.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Wed Oct 03 19:08:50 hood, yours was more a thumbtack. kargen gave a much more detailed description.
hood Member	Wed Oct 03 20:10:51 It was entirely unnecessary description, considering "FEMA test alert" is literally all that is needed.
Pillz Member	Wed Oct 03 21:23:17 But it is Obama fault right?
Hot Rod Revved Up	Wed Oct 03 21:39:32 So The President can use it to raise campaign funds? That is what Obama would have done with it.
Cthulhu Tentacle Rapist	Thu Oct 04 12:26:38 Obama would not have been able to. Have you ever heard of checks and balances before Hot Rod? You seem to think the POTUS is all powerful.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Oct 04 12:33:55 Have you ever heard of almost every member of Obama's cabinet signing off on selling a substantial amount of our uranium to Russia?
hood Member	Thu Oct 04 12:41:36 Not an ounce of uranium ever left the United States due to that deal.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Oct 04 12:45:57 So they say.
patom Member	Thu Oct 04 13:09:05 So, this 'Presidential' alert thing. Does this mean that all alerts must be vetted by the POTUS? I realize that the Twitterman thinks, as do his followers, that he is all knowing and all expert on everything. So does it follow that since he has labeled this as "Presidential" all alerts must pass his muster?
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Oct 04 13:17:27 I think that will be the SOP. The President will be the one person that is best for making the decision to use it. He/She will be briefed on every available detail. I can't imagine a full national alert. Most of them will be local ones such as for storms or flooding. That sort of thing.
patom Member	Thu Oct 04 17:25:12 So if the Neshaminy Creek is flooding in Bucks county, they will notify the POTUS and he will do an analysis of the situation and then issue a Presidential alert to warn the residents along the creek to move to higher ground. Will that be before or after the Twitterman finishes his round of golf?
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Oct 04 20:22:37 I'm not sure about you creek, but Trump might have used it in North Carolina if the system had been read.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Oct 04 20:29:53 *-your creek
patom Member	Thu Oct 04 21:22:19 So you are saying that the President is now the one to announce a hurricane like Florence. When everyone in North America and probably the world had watched it develop off the coast of Africa and slowly move across the Atlantic? Well isn't he special.
kargen Member	Thu Oct 04 22:25:40 No the hurricane a flood or anything like that would be normal alerts issued in the affected areas. The only example they have provided of when such an alert might have been used if available in our recent past was 9/11. FEMA is more associated with local events and that is why this alert does not include the name FEMA even though FEMA is the issuing agency. As an aside the act creating this was voted on in 2015. Prior to 2015 President Obama and congress set aside funding for wireless phone carriers to improve infrastructure so 9-1-1 and this system would work better in rural areas. Instead of improving infrastructure the phone companies bought up smaller companies to increase their customer base. The test message did not reach near all those it should have if the phone companies had done as they said they would with the government funds. So chances are we the people are going to be giving them even more money.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Oct 05 05:21:05 Cool.
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