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Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sat Oct 06 18:20:44

They are saying it is a Historical speech and some of the old timers are calling it the very best speech they have ever heard in the Senate.

http://tow...mail&utm_campaign=kavfinalvote

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Oct 06 21:15:57
it changed no ones votes
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sat Oct 06 21:52:49

It changed hers.

kargen
Member
Sat Oct 06 21:55:46
Also allowed Joe Manchin to vote to confirm once she said she was voting to confirm. He didn't want to be the deciding vote but needed to vote yes.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sat Oct 06 22:12:19

How about this? Have you heard that the unemployment rate fell for this week to 3.7%?


THE LOWEST IN 50 YEARS.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Oct 06 22:13:54
her speech didn't change her own vote, that makes no sense

and her speech didn't change Manchin's vote
kargen
Member
Sat Oct 06 22:21:06
Her ability to make that speech made it easier for her to cast her vote though. Also made it easier for Manchin. I agree not much of a probability that the speech changed the votes but it didn't hurt either.

And it was a good speech. The part where she tied into whoever gave the letter to the press made me laugh.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Oct 06 22:22:48
remember how Trump insisted the unemployment # was a fake nonsense number?

in any case there was no spike in employment from Trump, his job #'s have been no better than under Obama

a steady drop in unemployment happening since 2010

(plus slashing corporate taxes was not Trump's novel idea, that's what all R's run on, all the time... & who wrote & passed the bill)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Oct 06 22:23:30
her ability to make the speech showed she was never that much on the fence to begin with
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sat Oct 06 22:25:32

She was one of those sitting on the fence until the demonrats shot themselves in the mouth.

She realized how evil they are and then she wanted nothing to do with them.



Must have shot themselves in the mouth.

Otherwise, how would all of that shit come streaming out?

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Oct 06 22:28:08
she had a long rant about his qualifications, then a stream of R talking points about the Ford allegation

(like how '4' witnesses did not corroborate her claim... the perpetrator is not a witness)

she was clearly never wavering much, if at all
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Oct 06 22:30:31
...but i actually did think her rant was well written :p

just she lost me on her Ford parts... beating court standards is not required in considering a job candidate
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sat Oct 06 22:42:47

It was neither a trial or a job interview.

It was about The American way of doing things.

kargen
Member
Sun Oct 07 03:42:53
Ford said four boys and her best friend were at the party then said maybe six boys. Take the four boys and her friend you can leave the judge out and still have four witnesses.

The accused would if he was there also be a witness in the literal sense of the word. He wouldn't be a witness in a court of law but we have all pointed out many times this wasn't a court case.
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