Utopia Talk / Politics / Soyuz disintegrated with men aboard

Sam Adams Member	Thu Oct 11 08:39:11 But the capsule was intact and landed safely some 200 miles downrange. An American and russian were crew and are both reported uninjured. Woa! Helluva ride! Thats pretty cool.
Cthulhu Tentacle Rapist	Thu Oct 11 10:17:08 Sure beats what happens when a space shuttle disintegrates with men on board.
jergul large member	Thu Oct 11 10:41:19 http://tass.com/ Timestamp was interesting. It took Tass 28 minutes to make an emergency notice on a possible disaster after it initially posted about the launch. As opposed to close to a week to publish information on the Chernobyl meltdown.
jergul large member	Thu Oct 11 10:42:44 Lulz, the launch had a 70 million dollar insurance policy.
Sam Adams Member	Thu Oct 11 10:57:40 Sounds like a major failure near stage 1 cutout and stage 2 light. Pretty high altitude and speed. Plenty of debris on the video and launch control seemed surprise so i think "disintegration" is the right word to use. Less violent than challenger but still it sounds like capsule jettison worked properly and saved their lives!
Paramount Member	Thu Oct 11 11:01:50 Is there a video?
Cthulhu Tentacle Rapist	Thu Oct 11 11:19:25 'Lulz, the launch had a 70 million dollar insurance policy' Probably with a list of exemptions as long as your arm. The underwriters will determine that one of the engineers was negligent and it will never pay. Lulz!
hood Member	Fri Oct 12 07:22:08 "Lulz, the launch had a 70 million dollar insurance policy." Assuredly less than the cost of the rocket. Not like someone's gonna scuttle a rocket for $70 mil insurance.
Seb Member	Fri Oct 12 09:27:05 I think you can only insure the payload.
hood Member	Fri Oct 12 09:55:38 Sounds reasonable. But payloads generally don't want to have to collect insurance.
Seb Member	Fri Oct 12 10:29:02 Hood: Yeah, absolutely. But at least it's better than also being £100m out of pocket too!
hood Member	Fri Oct 12 10:38:05 Certainly. It just sounded like jergul was suggesting some sort of intent to destroy the rocket with insurance payouts involved. Thats just not likely at all.
Seb Member	Fri Oct 12 12:55:55 Oh, I see. I didn't pick up on that - thought he was more likely lulzing on the payout.
hood Member	Fri Oct 12 15:38:54 Also possible.
jergul large member	Sat Oct 13 01:31:56 I was lulzing that the launch was not self-insured.
jergul large member	Sat Oct 13 01:32:29 State actors usually roll that way.
jergul large member	Sat Oct 13 01:35:04 Gah. I should get coffee first. Anyway, in my ongoing stream of consciousness; the payload was owned by the state (obviously).
Seb Member	Sat Oct 13 02:39:42 Hmmm Yeah, if the payload is Russian cosmonauts that's a bit unusual. Normally it's the owner of the payload that gets issuance against the launch operator blowing up their precious satellite.
Hrothgar Member	Sat Oct 13 13:58:20 Amazing that the emergency procedures worked out just as envisioned. From recognition there was a problem to successful separation of the module from the rocket.
Cthulhu Tentacle Rapist	Wed Oct 24 13:08:46 'Hmmm Yeah, if the payload is Russian cosmonauts that's a bit unusual. ' Why not insure the cosmonauts? You can easily do it under a key employee business policy. How much does it cost to train one of them?
Seb Member	Wed Oct 24 13:36:43 Cthulhu: It's easier and cheaper for the state to self insure. Same reason few states use private providers for their direct employees pension schemes.
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