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Y2A
Member Thu Oct 18 01:13:23
Now had legal recreational weed nationwide.

Y2A
Member Thu Oct 18 01:13:36
*has

Hot Rod
Revved Up Thu Oct 18 01:47:20

And you can order it by mail. :)

Average Ameriacn
Member Thu Oct 18 02:12:46
Build a wall!

Cthulhu
Tentacle Rapist Thu Oct 18 14:15:18
Not quite accurate. Towns in Northwest Territories and the Yukon can ban pot store, and if they do, anyone living in that town cannot purchase online.

Also, it's illegal to smoke it outside your home, so renters cannot legally smoke weed.

Can't grow plants if you rent either.

So, it's legal for homeowners and that's it.

I live in a city of over a million people. 2 dispensaries where approved in time for legalization.

In Ontario, you can only order online, so only legal for people with credit cards.

It's all sorts of fucked, hopefully the day comes where it really is legal.

Can't open a weed cafe either, since it can't be consumed where it's sold.

Forwyn
Member Thu Oct 18 14:28:51
"and if they do, anyone living in that town cannot purchase online."

rofl

swordtail
Anarchist Prime Thu Oct 18 14:33:24
http://www...les-you-need-to-know-1.4136401

Sam Adams
Member Thu Oct 18 15:37:45
Good vacation spot for the yankees now that their season is over eh?

Nekran
Member Thu Oct 18 16:18:33
"Also, it's illegal to smoke it outside your home, so renters cannot legally smoke weed."

That sounds like renters' rights kind of suck in Canada?

Rugian
Member Thu Oct 18 16:23:59
To be fair, American landlords in many jurisdictions have the right to ban smoking within their buildings. It is a fire hazard after all.

Nekran
Member Thu Oct 18 17:32:49
So is using a curling iron? Or a stove?

Seems like a flimsy pretext to me.

Pillz
Member Thu Oct 18 19:08:07
Cthulhu wrong. Wrong wrong wrong.

On the federal level, you're allowed to smoke anywhere except hospitals and schools and government buildings.

Then every province and municipality sets their own laws. Lowest level prevails on restrictions.

In Montreal, you can smoke anywhere you can smoke cigarettes. But each borough can set their own restrictions on that, so in some you can only smoke on private property.

There has been, at no level of government anywhere, any law passed to prohibit you from smoking weed in an apartment.

If your lease does not explicitly state no smoking, you're allowed.

Canadian
Member Thu Oct 18 22:38:43
...and you can always order it from the feds.

patom
Member Fri Oct 19 06:15:50
Nekran, "So is using a curling iron? Or a stove?

Seems like a flimsy pretext to me."

Check the stats on fires started by careless smoking.

http://www...pic/Top-causes-of-fire/Smoking

jergul
large member Fri Oct 19 09:53:46
Cthulu
Wow, that was a crazy assed take on the legislation. Wtf are you smoking?

Nekran
Member Fri Oct 19 10:52:25
"Smoking materials caused 5% of reported home fires"

Does that make it the #1 cause?

I mean I'm not denying that smoking causes fires or anything... I just wouldn't be OK with that being part of a lease for renting property myself. And I don't think it would be legal here (though I'm no expert obviously... never heard of that being part of any lease until this thread in any case).

Cthulhu
Tentacle Rapist Fri Oct 19 11:18:37
@Pillz.

Right, for some reason I was going by what's happening in Calgary.

'To be fair, American landlords in many jurisdictions have the right to ban smoking within their buildings. It is a fire hazard after all. '

It has more to due with the damage that long term smoking can cause inside. The smoke eventually seeps into the walls.

'In Montreal, you can smoke anywhere you can smoke cigarettes. But each borough can set their own restrictions on that, so in some you can only smoke on private property. '

Nice. Can you drink in public too in Montreal?

patom
Member Fri Oct 19 11:18:57
I would think that non-smokers would prefer a building that doesn't allow smoking. We don't have any ashtrays in our house. I think the only smoker that comes here on occasion is my grandson and he steps outside to have a smoke. Of course we own the house, but if I were renting I would prefer a non smoking complex.

I never realized how bad rooms smelled that allow smoking until I quit 23 years ago. I went on a trip and got a motel. They only had smoking rooms available and I said OK. When I stepped into the room it was like walking into a dirty ashtray. It looked clean but the smell permeated everything.

Cthulhu
Tentacle Rapist Fri Oct 19 11:19:15
@Pillz

Do you know of hand if it's legal for a landlord to say you can't grow pot?

Pillz
Member Fri Oct 19 11:43:05
As of now, no, they can't stipulate that in a lease afaik and they can't tell you not to now (as it'd require amending the lease) . It's akin to saying you can't have house plants, for now. I'm sure their challenges will succeed at least in part.

Landlord associations the nation over are trying to amend rules, either to allow themselves to ban growing or to disallow it & weed smoking in apartments in general.

You can drink in public in some parks in Montreal. On Mount royal for example and in little Italy and Saint henri there are parks that allow drinking so long as you have food

Pillz
Member Fri Oct 19 12:04:14
https://www.mtlblog.com/montreal-condo-buildings-are-already-banning-marijuana-smoking-in-private-apartments

I fail to see how that's legal. Evidently building rule laws are lease work around

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Y2A Member	Thu Oct 18 01:13:23 Now had legal recreational weed nationwide.
Y2A Member	Thu Oct 18 01:13:36 *has
Hot Rod Revved Up	Thu Oct 18 01:47:20 And you can order it by mail. :)
Average Ameriacn Member	Thu Oct 18 02:12:46 Build a wall!
Cthulhu Tentacle Rapist	Thu Oct 18 14:15:18 Not quite accurate. Towns in Northwest Territories and the Yukon can ban pot store, and if they do, anyone living in that town cannot purchase online. Also, it's illegal to smoke it outside your home, so renters cannot legally smoke weed. Can't grow plants if you rent either. So, it's legal for homeowners and that's it. I live in a city of over a million people. 2 dispensaries where approved in time for legalization. In Ontario, you can only order online, so only legal for people with credit cards. It's all sorts of fucked, hopefully the day comes where it really is legal. Can't open a weed cafe either, since it can't be consumed where it's sold.
Forwyn Member	Thu Oct 18 14:28:51 "and if they do, anyone living in that town cannot purchase online." rofl
swordtail Anarchist Prime	Thu Oct 18 14:33:24 http://www...les-you-need-to-know-1.4136401
Sam Adams Member	Thu Oct 18 15:37:45 Good vacation spot for the yankees now that their season is over eh?
Nekran Member	Thu Oct 18 16:18:33 "Also, it's illegal to smoke it outside your home, so renters cannot legally smoke weed." That sounds like renters' rights kind of suck in Canada?
Rugian Member	Thu Oct 18 16:23:59 To be fair, American landlords in many jurisdictions have the right to ban smoking within their buildings. It is a fire hazard after all.
Nekran Member	Thu Oct 18 17:32:49 So is using a curling iron? Or a stove? Seems like a flimsy pretext to me.
Pillz Member	Thu Oct 18 19:08:07 Cthulhu wrong. Wrong wrong wrong. On the federal level, you're allowed to smoke anywhere except hospitals and schools and government buildings. Then every province and municipality sets their own laws. Lowest level prevails on restrictions. In Montreal, you can smoke anywhere you can smoke cigarettes. But each borough can set their own restrictions on that, so in some you can only smoke on private property. There has been, at no level of government anywhere, any law passed to prohibit you from smoking weed in an apartment. If your lease does not explicitly state no smoking, you're allowed.
Canadian Member	Thu Oct 18 22:38:43 ...and you can always order it from the feds.
patom Member	Fri Oct 19 06:15:50 Nekran, "So is using a curling iron? Or a stove? Seems like a flimsy pretext to me." Check the stats on fires started by careless smoking. http://www...pic/Top-causes-of-fire/Smoking
jergul large member	Fri Oct 19 09:53:46 Cthulu Wow, that was a crazy assed take on the legislation. Wtf are you smoking?
Nekran Member	Fri Oct 19 10:52:25 "Smoking materials caused 5% of reported home fires" Does that make it the #1 cause? I mean I'm not denying that smoking causes fires or anything... I just wouldn't be OK with that being part of a lease for renting property myself. And I don't think it would be legal here (though I'm no expert obviously... never heard of that being part of any lease until this thread in any case).
Cthulhu Tentacle Rapist	Fri Oct 19 11:18:37 @Pillz. Right, for some reason I was going by what's happening in Calgary. 'To be fair, American landlords in many jurisdictions have the right to ban smoking within their buildings. It is a fire hazard after all. ' It has more to due with the damage that long term smoking can cause inside. The smoke eventually seeps into the walls. 'In Montreal, you can smoke anywhere you can smoke cigarettes. But each borough can set their own restrictions on that, so in some you can only smoke on private property. ' Nice. Can you drink in public too in Montreal?
patom Member	Fri Oct 19 11:18:57 I would think that non-smokers would prefer a building that doesn't allow smoking. We don't have any ashtrays in our house. I think the only smoker that comes here on occasion is my grandson and he steps outside to have a smoke. Of course we own the house, but if I were renting I would prefer a non smoking complex. I never realized how bad rooms smelled that allow smoking until I quit 23 years ago. I went on a trip and got a motel. They only had smoking rooms available and I said OK. When I stepped into the room it was like walking into a dirty ashtray. It looked clean but the smell permeated everything.
Cthulhu Tentacle Rapist	Fri Oct 19 11:19:15 @Pillz Do you know of hand if it's legal for a landlord to say you can't grow pot?
Pillz Member	Fri Oct 19 11:43:05 As of now, no, they can't stipulate that in a lease afaik and they can't tell you not to now (as it'd require amending the lease) . It's akin to saying you can't have house plants, for now. I'm sure their challenges will succeed at least in part. Landlord associations the nation over are trying to amend rules, either to allow themselves to ban growing or to disallow it & weed smoking in apartments in general. You can drink in public in some parks in Montreal. On Mount royal for example and in little Italy and Saint henri there are parks that allow drinking so long as you have food
Pillz Member	Fri Oct 19 12:04:14 https://www.mtlblog.com/montreal-condo-buildings-are-already-banning-marijuana-smoking-in-private-apartments I fail to see how that's legal. Evidently building rule laws are lease work around
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