Utopia Talk / Politics / Trump not welcome in Pittsburgh

Paramount Member	Tue Oct 30 06:56:16 Jewish Group Tells Trump To Stay Away From Pittsburgh: 'You Are Not Welcome' The leaders of a progressive Jewish organization in Pittsburgh said President Donald Trump should not visit the city as it mourns the 11 people murdered in a mass shooting at a synagogue until he changes his tone. “President Trump, you are not welcome in Pittsburgh until you fully denounce white nationalism,” the leaders of the local chapter of Bend the Arc wrote, adding: “For the past three years, your words and your policies have emboldened a growing white nationalist movement. You yourself called the murderer evil, but yesterday’s violence is the direct culmination of your influence.” The group said Trump’s rhetoric had not only led to attacks on Jewish people, but also “deliberately undermined the safety of people of color, Muslims, LGBTQ people and people with disabilities.” The organization also demanded that Trump “stop targeting and endangering all minorities,” “cease your assault on immigrants and refugees” and “commit yourself to compassionate, democratic policies that recognize the dignity of all of us.” During the mass shooting at the Tree of Life synagogue on Saturday, alleged gunman Robert Bowers, 46, reportedly screamed “all Jews must die” before he opened fire. Prosecutors have filed 29 charges against Bower, 22 of which could lead to the death penalty. http://www...ells-trump-stay-043008739.html
Republican Rod Member	Tue Oct 30 07:04:04 Clearly they need to repent
Hot Rod Revved Up	Tue Oct 30 08:51:02 The Rabbi at the Synagogue where the shooting took place said the President is welcome and will be treated with respect if he comes there.
Forwyn Member	Tue Oct 30 09:34:35 Pittsburgh is one of the leftist shitholes where protesters can block the streets indefinitely and a guy gets charged with pushing his way through.
Wrath of Orion Member	Tue Oct 30 10:19:35 Your butthurt over someone driving a car through protestors and then getting arrested is kinda funny.
Forwyn Member	Tue Oct 30 10:21:47 Plenty of places where the driver has gotten away with it. Just good to note what locales where false imprisonment is acceptable.
Wrath of Orion Member	Tue Oct 30 10:26:27 There's the good ol' Forwyn "logic" we've come to expect. "Others have not been arrested elsewhere for it, so it must be OK! Herpa derp."
Jack Cafferty Member	Tue Oct 30 10:27:26 Forwyn must be Hot Rod's son
Forwyn Member	Tue Oct 30 10:30:52 Nah, it's not okay because some local DA decided not to prosecute. It's okay because no person is obliged to sit in the middle of a crowd while their toddler is at home with a babysitter. As long as they make an effort to avoid injury, there's no issue. Yeah, if you're discussing some guy plowing through the crowd at 40mph, that's another story.
Wrath of Orion Member	Tue Oct 30 10:33:43 Wow, just wow...
Jack Cafferty Member	Tue Oct 30 10:33:48 Which you defended. Remember forwyn's retarded defense at the first unite the 'reich' rally. "He feared for his life that why he plowed through them killing the woman." -forwyns logic
Forwyn Member	Tue Oct 30 10:36:10 Is it the position of WoO that a person who nudges through a crowd at 3mph should face charges?
Jack Cafferty Member	Tue Oct 30 10:38:47 Lol forwyn's "lawyer impersonation" look it's a "gotcha attempt."
Wrath of Orion Member	Tue Oct 30 13:13:50 Oh oh, I can play Forwyn's, "I'm just here asking questions to suit my agenda even if they don't represent the full reality of the situation " game, too. Is it the position of Forwyn that a person who drives a car through a crowd and injures people should not face charges?
Forwyn Member	Tue Oct 30 13:26:10 Depends on the circumstances. I've seen plenty of retards start trying to stop a car that starts slowly rolling. They also seem to be fans of jumping on top of the car. Yeah, no charges in such a case. I can think of plenty of charges for the blockers.
Forwyn Member	Tue Oct 30 13:26:33 In any case, no need to get butthurt. "Wow, just wow..." isn't really much to go on.
Jack Cafferty Member	Tue Oct 30 13:52:40 I've seen retards, more specifically you talk about laws but manage to come up with dumbass conclusions using my logical fallacies.
murder Member	Tue Oct 30 13:57:23 Every fucking thread degenerates into the same fucking shit.
Wrath of Orion Member	Tue Oct 30 14:01:03 I can think of plenty of charges for someone who drives through a crowd of people, too.
Forwyn Member	Tue Oct 30 14:03:03 Indeed - if they behaved recklessly or with intent to maim. If they keep their cool and show restraint while slowly attempting to extricate themselves from an angry crowd, I don't believe charges are warranted.
Jack Cafferty Member	Tue Oct 30 14:07:25 But that isn't what forwyn inferred.
Wrath of Orion Member	Tue Oct 30 15:38:32 Ah, so now it's, "while slowly attempting to extricate themselves from an angry crowd." Notice how the story has once again changed.
Forwyn Member	Tue Oct 30 15:42:17 Only if you're not paying attention. "As long as they make an effort to avoid injury, there's no issue. Yeah, if you're discussing some guy plowing through the crowd at 40mph, that's another story."
Wrath of Orion Member	Tue Oct 30 15:46:49 No, now you've added the whole, "He may have been in danger," thing with that tidbit. Of course, these people were only in any danger once they tried to drive through the crowd. Had they not done that, their cars would not have been kicked, etc. So yeah, welcome to being charged, idiots.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Oct 30 16:09:30 the jew star memorials are mounted on crosses... seems like mocking the crucifixion ...and now Trump is lighting the crosses on fire... :O
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Oct 30 16:13:54 the guy trying to move the protesters back is giving nazi salutes... this could be trouble
Rugian Member	Tue Oct 30 16:27:07 Unfortunately, American Jews are like the least likely people in the country to root. I dont see any mayhem resulting from this.
Rugian Member	Tue Oct 30 16:27:24 Riot
Forwyn Member	Tue Oct 30 16:47:10 "No, now you've added the whole, "He may have been in danger," thing with that tidbit. Of course, these people were only in any danger once they tried to drive through the crowd. Had they not done that, their cars would not have been kicked, etc. So yeah, welcome to being charged, idiots." Are you seriously saying that violence against someone who objects to being stuck in a protest is justified, and that the individual stuck is obligated to remain until the protest dissipates? lol
Wrath of Orion Member	Tue Oct 30 17:49:57 Nice strawman there. I'll wait until you get back on track. lol
Forwyn Member	Tue Oct 30 18:29:51 "Had they not done that, their cars would not have been kicked, etc."
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