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Hot Rod
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Thu Nov 01 03:59:20 2018

The more you blame him for shit, the more popular he becomes.

tumbleweed
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Thu Nov 01 04:13:51 2018
his approval rating has skyrocketed from -42% to -42%
Hot Rod
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Thu Nov 01 04:18:55 2018

His approval rating is at 50% now.

Sorry, I can't find the link again.

Hot Rod
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Thu Nov 01 04:19:58 2018

That is in your eyes only.

kargen
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Thu Nov 01 04:21:34 2018
According to Gallop he is actually down four points.

2018 Oct 22-28 40 54 6
2018 Oct 15-21 44 50 6

the columns are approval disapproval and no opinion.

He is going to have to go up five points in November to be tied for last place.
Hot Rod
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Thu Nov 01 04:31:48 2018


I found it.

http://sco...9b0d57a7c437355c72&oe=5C80D1FD


tumbleweed
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Thu Nov 01 04:44:32 2018
congrats, that's an image so could be made to say any number plus there's no date on it (however, i concede Rasmussen has had Trump at 50%... however it is also the HIGHEST poll you will find for Trump that has any credibility whatsoever)

FiveThirtyEight uses multiple polls to give an average (each green & orange dot is a poll)... and grades Rasmussen as a C+ (a not great rating):

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/
Hot Rod
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Thu Nov 01 05:05:05 2018

Yeah, but the photo is so big you can give him a big fat wet kiss.


Enjoy.

Pillz
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Thu Nov 01 07:05:36 2018
Tw still using fivethirtyeight, lmao

tumbleweed
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Thu Nov 01 07:11:42 2018
because Hillary didn't win with their 71% chance, they are garbage?

also it's a collection of polls, seems a lot more reasonable than picking the one that makes you look best (as Trump does)
tumbleweed
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Thu Nov 01 07:13:32 2018
...and if people are still embarrassed to admit they support Trump, that's still not a good reflection on the 'man'
Pillz
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Thu Nov 01 07:46:15 2018
I wish I could post the /pol/ collage with all the fivethirtyeight fails
tumbleweed
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Thu Nov 01 08:05:56 2018
if a poll is 48/52 and the 48 wins, is that a fail?

because racking up many 'fails' like that when they have hundreds of polls isn't too shocking

here's their current midterm predictions (w/ a nicely done map of every seat... w/ two viewing options), we can evaluate in a week
http://pro.../house/?ex_cid=midterms-header
werewolf dictator
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Thu Nov 01 09:55:54 2018
5 august 2015.. silver gives trump 2% chance of winning primaries [when trump is polling around 25% and over double next candidate]

9 june 2016.. 538 gives hillary 66.8% chance in forecast [default "polls only forecast" model]

12 july 2016.. 538 gives hillary 77.4% chance

30 july 2016.. 538 gives hillary 49.9% chance [trump favorite]

17 august 2016.. 538 gives hillary 88.3% chance

26 september 2016.. 538 gives hillary 54.8% chance

17 october 2016.. hillary 88.1% chance

5 november 2016.. hillary 66.7% chance

8 november.. hillary 71.4% chance



first one was dumb

the rest suggests silver shouldn't have been making confident forecasts far from election day with lots of time for change.. when he got repeated wild fluctuations like that [ie at most claim some "if the election were held today" bs]
werewolf dictator
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Thu Nov 01 10:29:57 2018
2016

final rcp average.. clinton +2.1 [these are popular vote margin]
final rasmussen poll.. clinton +1.7
final 538 forecast.. clinton +3.6
actual.. clinton +2.1

getting beat by simple rcp average by 1.5 suggests all the 538 fancy poll ratings and weights and bias adjustments wasn't doing silver much good
werewolf dictator
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Thu Nov 01 10:31:18 2018
oops.. final rcp average was really clinton +3.2

so only beat by 0.4
werewolf dictator
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Thu Nov 01 10:47:12 2018
i do have to admit 538 was better than rcp averages for individual states [although rcp just says closer races are "toss ups"]
jergul
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Thu Nov 01 10:58:58 2018
Amazing Pillz. You play poker. Probability should be second nature.
delude
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Thu Nov 01 11:43:55 2018
http://www...t_trump_job_approval-6179.html
werewolf dictator
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Thu Nov 01 17:10:33 2018
all i see at delude's link is pelosi favorable at 27.8% and schumer at 28.7%
werewolf dictator
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Thu Nov 01 18:08:28 2018
october 31 overview of approval/confidence ratings for major world leaders in own countries

http://www...w-long-will-world-leaders-last

49.0% narendra modi
44.2% donald trump
44% angela merkel
42% shinzo abe
37% vladimir putin
36% theresa may
30% emmanuel macron


other than india.. trump in usa is #1
Delude
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Thu Nov 01 18:11:10 2018
"all i see at delude's link is pelosi..."

That's because you're incredibly stupid and I'm sure it's hard to see anything when your head is so far up Trump's anal cavity.
werewolf dictator
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Thu Nov 01 18:17:35 2018
probably i only see pelosi and schumer because their numbers stand out so much [while trump is pretty great for world leader]
werewolf dictator
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Thu Nov 01 18:22:22 2018
putin's was only one using "confidence" by bloomberg

recent rferl credits him 66% "approval"

http://www.rferl.org/a/the-ups-and-downs/29565761.html
TJ
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Thu Nov 01 19:43:54 2018
"Do You Get It Yet?"

Why do you want the you's to get it?
Hot Rod
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Thu Nov 01 23:32:48 2018

We 'Make America Great Again'.


:)

Dukhat
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Fri Nov 02 01:58:26 2018
Pillz thinks 538 is bad. Forwyn thinks Vox is trash. Cuckservatives are so fucking stupid; some of the best sources are "bad" to them.

Sadly enough Forwyn has actually reproduced. Hopefully a mass shooter takes him and his kids out. It would be karmic justice.
werewolf dictator
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Fri Nov 02 06:27:06 2018
if someone wanted to be pollster with amazingly accurate track record.. they should just hire dukhat and predict the opposite of whatever he's saying
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