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patom
Member Fri Nov 02 08:03:41
http://www...rect=on&utm_term=.27ba91f6902f

Is there anything we can believe from the Twitterman?

Hot Rod
Revved Up Fri Nov 02 08:54:16

You do realize that no matter who is the Republican President they are automatically dubbed Hitler, NAZI, racest, sub-human, stupid, womanizer and whatever else the Dems can think of to call them.

Trump is saying right now that if you laid the absolute best, most rational solution, one that would make every person that wants to come to America absolutely ecstatic, the perfect solution to the immigration problem, that the Democrats would still call it racist and would not even read it.

He's right.

patom
Member Fri Nov 02 09:09:17
You do realize that he has yet to put anything out there that he promised?
When he was campaigning he promised that he would replace the ACA with a cheaper and better health care plan. Indicating that he had one. So here we are 3 months shy of 2 years in office and not one hint, not one clue, nothing on health care. BTW health care is the NUMBER ONE concern of most Americans.

But he keeps you scared shitless about a bunch of ragtag asylum seekers that at present are 800 miles away from our border.

He has you convinced that every immigrant that crosses the border is the same as that guy that murdered two sheriffs.

kargen
Member Fri Nov 02 11:05:05
We shouldn't be scared of the caravan of people heading towards the United States. We should trust that US and international laws will be followed and most the participants sent back home.

tumbleweed
the wanderer Fri Nov 02 11:08:40
"now that if you laid the absolute best, most rational solution..."

more Trump delusions

even Republicans haven't agreed on a plan amongst themselves

tumbleweed
the wanderer Fri Nov 02 11:17:29
i'm glad you oppose the president, kargen... even though you never show the contempt toward him he deserves

patom
Member Fri Nov 02 11:39:04
"even Republicans haven't agreed on a plan amongst themselves"

You must realize that it is very difficult for Republicans. On the one hand they claim they are working on a immigration policy revamp. On the other hand they have some very wealthy campaign donors who love illegal immigrants working for them.

Kind of stressful for them trying to walk a tightrope.

TJ
Member Fri Nov 02 11:48:05
"In regard to immigration law, Congress, under the Plenary Power Doctrine, has the power to make immigration policy subject to judicial oversight. The Executive Branch is charged with enforcing the immigration laws passed by Congress."

Both sides of the political arena seem to agree that something has to be done about illegal immigration.

It is past time that the football is punctured and the game ended. Our Congress is mentally disturbed without a prescription. Both sides have played the offense and defense in the game.

patom
Member Fri Nov 02 13:15:27
I would venture that over half of Congress is getting substantial amounts of money for their campaigns from individuals who rely on a lot of illegal aliens working for them.

murder
Member Fri Nov 02 16:43:53

"Both sides of the political arena seem to agree that something has to be done about illegal immigration."

Why?

Hot Rod
Revved Up Fri Nov 02 16:44:31

patom - When he was campaigning he promised that he would replace the ACA with a cheaper and better health care plan. Indicating that he had one. So here we are 3 months shy of 2 years in office and not one hint, not one clue, nothing on health care.

You can thank Senator McCain for that.

TJ
Member Fri Nov 02 17:03:55
The why suggests the previous, at minimum, four decades of political argument research.

patom
Member Sat Nov 03 12:35:20
So Senator McCain is the sole reason that the Twitterman has not been able to bring his promised health care plan out?

Hot Rod
Revved Up Sat Nov 03 12:55:23

He cast the deciding vote and that is the same way the Democrats voted.

Hot Rod
Revved Up Sat Nov 03 13:00:56

You guys need to learn that your opinions have nothing to do with facts, and what the lame street media says has even less so.

patom
Member Sat Nov 03 17:08:34
So what you are saying is that the Twitterman came forth with a Health Care plan that was both cheaper and better than the ACA?

hood
Member Sat Nov 03 17:33:26
"You guys need to learn that your opinions have nothing to do with facts, and what the lame street media says has even less so."

You need to die, quickly. So much ignorance and retardation will undoubtedly spread. For the good of humanity, cut yourself out of the plague vector before we're all lost.

Dukhat
Member Sat Nov 03 17:46:04
There are too many Hot Rods in the world and they vote at 80% rates. Our planet is doomed.

tumbleweed
the wanderer Sat Nov 03 17:47:58
the R's tried like 3 vastly different health care ideas... all failed

McCain only stopped the weakest ('skinny repeal'), & he stopped it only in the Senate, w/ some Senators having voted for it on the PROMISE that the House would NOT pass it

so McCain didn't not stop a repeal & replace of Obamacare
---

YOU (HR) need to learn that what TRUMP says has nothing to do with facts

Hot Rod
Revved Up Sat Nov 03 18:18:56

Oh, BTW.

FYI, I was not trying to manipulate the meanings of certain words. I was merely stating that I would like to know what the Founding Fathers meant by those words.

tumbleweed
the wanderer Sat Nov 03 22:33:48
if a baby throws a rock at the military, and the military then arrests the baby (as Trump now says is what he obviously meant by his treat 'rocks are rifles' comments...) they are able to do it as the baby is subject to our jurisdiction

...unless it's a baby with diplomatic immunity as in Lethal Weapon 2

tumbleweed
the wanderer Mon Nov 05 11:36:03
NBC and Fox News said in separate statements on Monday that their networks will no longer air the Trump campaign's racist anti-immigrant advertisement.

NBC was first to announce its decision, doing so after a backlash over its decision to show the 30-second spot during "Sunday Night Football."

"After further review we recognize the insensitive nature of the ad and have decided to cease airing it across our properties as soon as possible," a spokesperson for NBC said in a statement.

Fox soon followed suit.

"Upon further review, Fox News pulled the ad yesterday and it will not appear on either Fox News Channel or Fox Business Network," Marianne Gambelli, Fox News' president of advertisement sales.

========

Fox News develops standards... after criticism... and after damage done

patom
Member Mon Nov 05 14:27:13
Wow, I suppose Trump will have to start his own News Network if Fox is not backing him.

I wonder what he could call it. TNN is already taken.

tumbleweed
the wanderer Mon Nov 05 15:32:41
perhaps their role as state TV was becoming a little too obvious even for them

Trump's campaign said Hannity would be a special guest at a rally tonight, and Hannity's all like 'no no no... i'm just doing my show there & interviewing Trump'... totally not an obvious shill

patom
Member Mon Nov 05 15:37:47
Maybe the Twitterman is not paying on time for his ads. Expects the free promos he got when he first ran.

Rugian
Member Mon Nov 05 15:47:24
So now you cant run an ad critical of illegals?

Time to burn the whole system down.

Rugian
Member Mon Nov 05 15:49:35
"perhaps their role as state TV was becoming a little too obvious even for them"

Do Fox News anchors describe getting a thrill up their leg from POTUS?

obaminated
Member Mon Nov 05 17:09:07
An illegal kills cops and the party supporting open borders is somehow trying to twist that the guy who wants closed borders is the bad guy.

Dukhat
Member Mon Nov 05 21:15:29
Are you really that fucking stupid? The ad explicitly lied and said democrats let him in when he came back under Bush and he was released by right-wing hero Arpaio.

Your life's not going to get any better until you can see our own fucking biases and entertain the notion your first impressions might be wrong.

tumbleweed
the wanderer Tue Nov 06 00:24:16
well Fox lied... Hannity & Pirro both went on stage shilling for Trump... not that it's any different than every episode of their shows

tumbleweed
the wanderer Tue Nov 06 00:47:31
and Kellyanne 'the snake' Conway & Sarah 'lies are what Jesus would do' Sanders also were on stage so fuck the Hatch Act

tumbleweed
the wanderer Tue Nov 06 01:31:11
actually not sure Fox lied, maybe just Hannity himself...

"In spite of reports, I will be doing a live show from Cape Girardeau and interviewing President Trump before the rally. To be clear, I will not be on stage campaigning with the President. I am covering final rally for my show. Something I have done in every election in the past."
http://twitter.com/seanhannity/status/1059476042975535104

he was really defiant about his total bullshit lie... & still has the tweet up for some reason...

Rugian
Member Tue Nov 06 06:54:46
Dukhat
Member Mon Nov 05 21:15:29
Are you really that fucking stupid? The ad explicitly lied and said democrats let him in when he came back under Bush and he was released by right-wing hero Arpaio.

----

And nothing that MT said in his post contradicts any of that. You dumbass.

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patom Member	Fri Nov 02 08:03:41 http://www...rect=on&utm_term=.27ba91f6902f Is there anything we can believe from the Twitterman?
Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Nov 02 08:54:16 You do realize that no matter who is the Republican President they are automatically dubbed Hitler, NAZI, racest, sub-human, stupid, womanizer and whatever else the Dems can think of to call them. Trump is saying right now that if you laid the absolute best, most rational solution, one that would make every person that wants to come to America absolutely ecstatic, the perfect solution to the immigration problem, that the Democrats would still call it racist and would not even read it. He's right.
patom Member	Fri Nov 02 09:09:17 You do realize that he has yet to put anything out there that he promised? When he was campaigning he promised that he would replace the ACA with a cheaper and better health care plan. Indicating that he had one. So here we are 3 months shy of 2 years in office and not one hint, not one clue, nothing on health care. BTW health care is the NUMBER ONE concern of most Americans. But he keeps you scared shitless about a bunch of ragtag asylum seekers that at present are 800 miles away from our border. He has you convinced that every immigrant that crosses the border is the same as that guy that murdered two sheriffs.
kargen Member	Fri Nov 02 11:05:05 We shouldn't be scared of the caravan of people heading towards the United States. We should trust that US and international laws will be followed and most the participants sent back home.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 02 11:08:40 "now that if you laid the absolute best, most rational solution..." more Trump delusions even Republicans haven't agreed on a plan amongst themselves
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 02 11:17:29 i'm glad you oppose the president, kargen... even though you never show the contempt toward him he deserves
patom Member	Fri Nov 02 11:39:04 "even Republicans haven't agreed on a plan amongst themselves" You must realize that it is very difficult for Republicans. On the one hand they claim they are working on a immigration policy revamp. On the other hand they have some very wealthy campaign donors who love illegal immigrants working for them. Kind of stressful for them trying to walk a tightrope.
TJ Member	Fri Nov 02 11:48:05 "In regard to immigration law, Congress, under the Plenary Power Doctrine, has the power to make immigration policy subject to judicial oversight. The Executive Branch is charged with enforcing the immigration laws passed by Congress." Both sides of the political arena seem to agree that something has to be done about illegal immigration. It is past time that the football is punctured and the game ended. Our Congress is mentally disturbed without a prescription. Both sides have played the offense and defense in the game.
patom Member	Fri Nov 02 13:15:27 I would venture that over half of Congress is getting substantial amounts of money for their campaigns from individuals who rely on a lot of illegal aliens working for them.
murder Member	Fri Nov 02 16:43:53 "Both sides of the political arena seem to agree that something has to be done about illegal immigration." Why?
Hot Rod Revved Up	Fri Nov 02 16:44:31 patom - When he was campaigning he promised that he would replace the ACA with a cheaper and better health care plan. Indicating that he had one. So here we are 3 months shy of 2 years in office and not one hint, not one clue, nothing on health care. You can thank Senator McCain for that.
TJ Member	Fri Nov 02 17:03:55 The why suggests the previous, at minimum, four decades of political argument research.
patom Member	Sat Nov 03 12:35:20 So Senator McCain is the sole reason that the Twitterman has not been able to bring his promised health care plan out?
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sat Nov 03 12:55:23 He cast the deciding vote and that is the same way the Democrats voted.
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sat Nov 03 13:00:56 You guys need to learn that your opinions have nothing to do with facts, and what the lame street media says has even less so.
patom Member	Sat Nov 03 17:08:34 So what you are saying is that the Twitterman came forth with a Health Care plan that was both cheaper and better than the ACA?
hood Member	Sat Nov 03 17:33:26 "You guys need to learn that your opinions have nothing to do with facts, and what the lame street media says has even less so." You need to die, quickly. So much ignorance and retardation will undoubtedly spread. For the good of humanity, cut yourself out of the plague vector before we're all lost.
Dukhat Member	Sat Nov 03 17:46:04 There are too many Hot Rods in the world and they vote at 80% rates. Our planet is doomed.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Nov 03 17:47:58 the R's tried like 3 vastly different health care ideas... all failed McCain only stopped the weakest ('skinny repeal'), & he stopped it only in the Senate, w/ some Senators having voted for it on the PROMISE that the House would NOT pass it so McCain didn't not stop a repeal & replace of Obamacare --- YOU (HR) need to learn that what TRUMP says has nothing to do with facts
Hot Rod Revved Up	Sat Nov 03 18:18:56 Oh, BTW. FYI, I was not trying to manipulate the meanings of certain words. I was merely stating that I would like to know what the Founding Fathers meant by those words.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Nov 03 22:33:48 if a baby throws a rock at the military, and the military then arrests the baby (as Trump now says is what he obviously meant by his treat 'rocks are rifles' comments...) they are able to do it as the baby is subject to our jurisdiction ...unless it's a baby with diplomatic immunity as in Lethal Weapon 2
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Nov 05 11:36:03 NBC and Fox News said in separate statements on Monday that their networks will no longer air the Trump campaign's racist anti-immigrant advertisement. NBC was first to announce its decision, doing so after a backlash over its decision to show the 30-second spot during "Sunday Night Football." "After further review we recognize the insensitive nature of the ad and have decided to cease airing it across our properties as soon as possible," a spokesperson for NBC said in a statement. Fox soon followed suit. "Upon further review, Fox News pulled the ad yesterday and it will not appear on either Fox News Channel or Fox Business Network," Marianne Gambelli, Fox News' president of advertisement sales. ======== Fox News develops standards... after criticism... and after damage done
patom Member	Mon Nov 05 14:27:13 Wow, I suppose Trump will have to start his own News Network if Fox is not backing him. I wonder what he could call it. TNN is already taken.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Nov 05 15:32:41 perhaps their role as state TV was becoming a little too obvious even for them Trump's campaign said Hannity would be a special guest at a rally tonight, and Hannity's all like 'no no no... i'm just doing my show there & interviewing Trump'... totally not an obvious shill
patom Member	Mon Nov 05 15:37:47 Maybe the Twitterman is not paying on time for his ads. Expects the free promos he got when he first ran.
Rugian Member	Mon Nov 05 15:47:24 So now you cant run an ad critical of illegals? Time to burn the whole system down.
Rugian Member	Mon Nov 05 15:49:35 "perhaps their role as state TV was becoming a little too obvious even for them" Do Fox News anchors describe getting a thrill up their leg from POTUS?
obaminated Member	Mon Nov 05 17:09:07 An illegal kills cops and the party supporting open borders is somehow trying to twist that the guy who wants closed borders is the bad guy.
Dukhat Member	Mon Nov 05 21:15:29 Are you really that fucking stupid? The ad explicitly lied and said democrats let him in when he came back under Bush and he was released by right-wing hero Arpaio. Your life's not going to get any better until you can see our own fucking biases and entertain the notion your first impressions might be wrong.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Nov 06 00:24:16 well Fox lied... Hannity & Pirro both went on stage shilling for Trump... not that it's any different than every episode of their shows
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Nov 06 00:47:31 and Kellyanne 'the snake' Conway & Sarah 'lies are what Jesus would do' Sanders also were on stage so fuck the Hatch Act
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Nov 06 01:31:11 actually not sure Fox lied, maybe just Hannity himself... "In spite of reports, I will be doing a live show from Cape Girardeau and interviewing President Trump before the rally. To be clear, I will not be on stage campaigning with the President. I am covering final rally for my show. Something I have done in every election in the past." http://twitter.com/seanhannity/status/1059476042975535104 he was really defiant about his total bullshit lie... & still has the tweet up for some reason...
Rugian Member	Tue Nov 06 06:54:46 Dukhat Member Mon Nov 05 21:15:29 Are you really that fucking stupid? The ad explicitly lied and said democrats let him in when he came back under Bush and he was released by right-wing hero Arpaio. ---- And nothing that MT said in his post contradicts any of that. You dumbass.
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