Utopia Talk / Politics / MD Cops Now Executing Lethal Gun Raids

Forwyn Member	Tue Nov 06 10:24:30 Will be an interesting day in right-wing groups. "Molon Labe" "Comply or die!" FERNDALE (WBFF) -- Anne Arundel County Police are investigating an officer-involved shooting that occurred Monday morning in Ferndale. Police spokesman Jacklyn Davis said officers responded to 103 Linwood Avenue at around 5:15 a.m. to serve an “emergency risk protective order,” also known as the red flag order. Police say Gary J. Willis, who was the subject of the Extreme Risk Protective Order and the Emergency Petition, answered the door armed with a handgun. When officers began to serve Willis with the order, he became irate, opened the door to the residence and grabbed the gun according to police. They say, an attempt was made by an officer to take the gun away from Willis when Willis fired the gun. A second officer fired their service weapon, striking Willis, who was pronounced deceased at the scene. Davis says no Anne Arundel County officers were injured in the struggle. The suspect was pronounced dead on scene. Davis says there were other adults in the home, but no other injuries were reported. The Red Flag Law went into effect on October 1 and allows judges to create protective orders against a gun owner who has displayed certain threatening behaviors. The 'red flag' legislation is already law in five states- including California, Connecticut, Indiana, Oregon, and Washington. It has been introduced in 18 states and D.C. http://fox...firm-officer-involved-shooting
Paramount Member	Tue Nov 06 10:51:57 Better safe than sorry. Buy more guns and carry on.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Nov 06 11:02:20 it sounds like he was indeed a danger to himself or others ...until we see the video of cops sneaking in the window & shooting him when he awakens startled
hood Member	Tue Nov 06 11:33:32 Guy fired his own weapon. Probably didn't need to be killed over it, but understandable that gunfire from an agitated person who is directly interacting with police results how it did.
Forwyn Member	Tue Nov 06 11:36:25 Can you believe tw voted for Ron Paul? What a fucking cuck. "It's unreasonable to go to the door being pounded at 5am, or to resist gun seizures absent due process"
Forwyn Member	Tue Nov 06 11:36:44 *with a weapon*
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Nov 06 11:50:08 i don't know that law but sounds like cops were following it... of course they are providing the story so not that surprising :p are they allowed to enter the home w/o permission? seems a bit suspicious they note the guy opened the door, but maybe he went outside initially... i dunno
Sam Adams Member	Tue Nov 06 12:04:44 We need to know what he was flagged for to know if this was fair.
Paramount Member	Tue Nov 06 12:06:11 Maybe he wore a red hat and offended someone on the street who then called the cops.
Pillz Member	Tue Nov 06 12:32:42 RIP America
kargen Member	Tue Nov 06 13:19:34 http://www...a-shooting-20181105-story.html More details. Sounds like the police were there the night before and the guys sister requested the red flag order.
Dukhat Member	Tue Nov 06 13:28:38 The guy’s sister wanted him dead. Maybe she gets his playstation or something.
Forwyn Member	Tue Nov 06 13:37:33 So one of five adult family members can get pissed off, call the cops and get a railroaded bench order to seize weapons, and the cops will show up at 5am ready to bark orders. Meanwhile, the other four family members are sleeping soundly, clearly unworried at the state of affairs. lol "RIP America" +1
Paramount Member	Tue Nov 06 15:31:10 So basically, one can just call the police and request a red flag on Hot Rod, and then they will come and shoot him?
kargen Member	Tue Nov 06 15:50:40 Ya probably know this but it doesn't quite work that way. The police visit the night before should be your first clue. You are going to have to call the police twice.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Nov 06 16:33:14 = How does it work? A petition must be filed in court to explain the potential dangers. A judge will need specific reasons why the person in question might harm themselves or someone else. The petition also must include things, such as, how many guns the person has and where the weapons are. If approved, a judge has the authority to take someone’s guns away within hours when someone sounds the alarm. The details would be sorted out in court within a couple of weeks. = Who can file a petition? There are only a handful of people allowed to do file petitions under the new law. - Law enforcement - Health professional - Spouse or family member - Someone the person is dating or has children with - Current or former legal guardian If a petitioner is found to be making false claims or embellishing the truth, they could face perjury charges and jail time. http://www...-red-flag-gun-law/65-598387522
Forwyn Member	Tue Nov 06 16:38:05 "The details would be sorted out in court within a couple of weeks." lol
Hot Rod Revved Up	Tue Nov 06 17:58:50 Sounds like a version of having a person committed. I am in favor of reopening the snake pits.
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