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Utopia Talk / Politics / Florida is now a Blue State
earthpig
GTFO HOer
Wed Nov 07 02:35:22
Discuss.
werewolf dictator
Member
Wed Nov 07 03:17:38
i think republicans flipped senate seat and won governor.. and felons usually don't vote even when they can

so still about as purple
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Nov 07 08:59:57
they are good at packing corrupt Rs into state government so probably no danger of keeping the Dems losing by tiny margins (or if a D win slips through, still giving it to Rs as with Bush/Gore)
jergul
large member
Wed Nov 07 09:24:02
http://edr...area-profiles/county/index.cfm

You would need to click through the projections. Some really red counties (though tiny) have quite a growth rate.
obaminated
Member
Wed Nov 07 10:16:06
Looks purple to me
earthpig
GTFO HOer
Wed Nov 07 12:02:38
It's been purple for decades.

Now, felons can vote.
obaminated
Member
Wed Nov 07 12:31:18
a fair amount of felons are neo nazis, so im sure they wont vote for dems.
hood
Member
Wed Nov 07 12:38:23
That should be concerning to you, mt. You aren't one of them. They'll eat you first during the apocalypse.
obaminated
Member
Wed Nov 07 13:10:10
ive got that going for me, which is nice.
Im better then you
2012 UP Football Champ
Wed Nov 07 14:11:50
Good grief the letter is undated.

werewolf dictator
Member
Wed Nov 07 14:12:05
of 1.5 million felons

400k to 450k range are estimated black.. and if they vote it will be overwhelmingly democrat

the rest will probably vote around 50/50 and should be irrelevant for dem/rep balance

so maybe ~40k extra democrat votes per 10% of black ex-felons who vote.. which even if prior felony is ignored as extra lower voting likelihood.. just things like education and income would suggest voting rates ~30%
McKobb
Member
Wed Nov 07 14:15:06
Great, so now every Florida Man can vote.
Dukhat
Member
Wed Nov 07 14:16:35
If you did your time, then absolve the crime.
Rugian
Member
Wed Nov 07 14:40:49
Indeed, felons should have their firearms rights restored after serving their time.
patom
Member
Wed Nov 07 14:50:51
In Maine, people serving time for felonies can still vote. All they need is an absentee ballot.

In the 8 years I worked at a jail in Maine, I can recall only 2 inmates ask to get absentee ballots.
It seemed to me that most inmates that I met were only interested in themselves.

The rate might have been a little higher in the State Prisons but I doubt if it was much higher.

Now Florida could be different in that they seemed to have a penchant for saddling minorities with felonies and using that as a means of voter suppression.
Rugian
Member
Wed Nov 07 14:53:40
Maine Democrats really are desperate to squeeze out every vote they can get, a rent they.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Wed Nov 07 15:34:49

tw - they are good at packing corrupt Rs...



You should not trash Rs for being corrupt as long as you support the Ds.

Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.
Average net worth: $77,082,134

obaminated
Member
Wed Nov 07 15:36:59
yes, it is a means of voter suppression to arrest people who commit felonies.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Wed Nov 07 15:39:07

Feinstein was re-elected.

Dukhat
Member
Wed Nov 07 15:43:06
Also it's not going to be more competitive. Republicans have a trifecta in California and control redistricting. Desantis also gets to nominate 3 supreme court justices meaning the 5-2 majority that declared their congressional map unconstitutional a few years ago gets flipped.

So a state that usually only splits its vote between the 2 parties by at most a few percent ends up with massive super majorities.

Minority rule at its best.
obaminated
Member
Wed Nov 07 15:45:21
California, eh?
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Wed Nov 07 15:45:36

What offices did the Reps win in California?

I can't even imagine them winning dog catcher even.

Dukhat
Member
Wed Nov 07 16:07:47
Err trifecta in Florida. California redistricing is controlled by a non-partisan commission that draws compact anti-incumbent districts.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Nov 07 16:16:45
total shitpile Devin Nunes is from California... they have red areas where people don't live
murder
Member
Thu Nov 08 14:03:37

While I have no evidence at all to support it, I will nonetheless posit that white collar felons and scammers (greed felons as opposed to need felons) would tend to vote Republican.

The "need felons" would probably generally mirror the rest of the population ... most white felons voting GOP ... most colored felons voting Dem.

IF they bother to vote.

I propose that most black "need felons" won't vote because they believe that the game is rigged.

And when it comes to hardcore criminals, they wouldn't vote, and likely wouldn't get the chance to as they will likely be locked up again before the next election rolls around.

Out of the 1.2 million felons who regained their right to vote, I figure the Dems may gain ~ +100,000 or so votes.

But again, I'm just talking out of my ass here. :o)

earthpig
GTFO HOer
Fri Nov 09 16:07:11
"
While I have no evidence at all to support it, I will nonetheless posit that white collar felons and scammers (greed felons as opposed to need felons) would tend to vote Republican.
"

I'm guessing white collar criminals are vastly outnumbered by blue collar.

The question isn't who will get votes out of this - both parties will, clearly - the question is who will get more, in the context of a traditionally razor thin purple state.
murder
Member
Fri Nov 09 17:32:36

But white collar criminals would be much more reliable voters ... so the difference won't be what you might assume.

Hot Rod
Revved Up
Fri Nov 09 20:42:47

As usual, there are wholesale crimes being committed by the democrat election officials in Florida.

The biddy in charge down there has been convicted of voter fraud and still, she is in charge.

Go figure.


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