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Paramount
Member
Thu Nov 08 05:48:02
Twelve killed after gunman opens fire in California bar

Twelve people including a police officer have been killed after a gunman opened fire inside a country-and-western bar in Thousand Oaks, California.

A sheriff's deputy was killed by the gunman after responding to the shooting at the student-filled Borderline bar and grill.

Authorities said the suspect died inside the bar and was "down with a gunshot wound" when police entered the building.

Ventura County sheriff Geoff Dean said it was "too early to say" if the gunman took his own life.

"We don't know anything about the suspect yet. I have no idea who he is," he said.

http://new...ire-in-california-bar-11547848
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Thu Nov 08 06:53:50

It is sad that the kids never had a chance to live because of some deranged person.

R.I.P.

werewolf dictator
Member
Thu Nov 08 07:02:33
CNN
@CNN
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1h
"This guy just came out of nowhere and came out with a gun and shot people": (link: https://cnn.it/2Du3xCO) cnn.it/2Du3xCO

What we know about the Thousand Oaks shooting:

- At least 12 dead, including sheriff's deputy

- Suspected gunman also dead

- Multiple injured


[i think cnn may have left out parts where he was middle easterner with beard in trenchcoat.. who may have liked how don lemon demonized white non-people.. given how he decided to target country music bar]
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Thu Nov 08 08:04:37

There are 13 dead including the shooter.

The deputy was the deputy was the first cop on the scene arriving in about three minutes. When he entered the bar he was shot numerous times. He was a 29-year veteran and was thinking of retirement within a year. He was a sergeant.

They have identified the shooter but have not released his name yet.

Just after shooting the unarmed security guard the shooter threw a smoke grenade to further confuse his targets.

A girl eyewitness was celebrating her 21st birthday. She is from a military family and her father had taught her what to do in a case like this. She said the shooter knew what he was doing, the proper stance and smooth reload.

Hot Rod
Revved Up
Thu Nov 08 09:08:18

Ian David Long - 28 years old.

Glock pistol used.

He was a veteran and may have had PTSD.

Rugian
Member
Thu Nov 08 09:12:48
Piece of shit.
swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Thu Nov 08 09:31:08
whew!
thank jeebus it wasn't a terrorist.
Sam Adams
Member
Thu Nov 08 10:49:29
So california allowed a mental health patient access to guns. the state cases workers were probably too busy with their transgender sensitivity training.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Nov 08 11:08:24
"if someone had shot him before he shot those other people, this wouldn't have happened"

#maga
jergul
large member
Thu Nov 08 11:32:18
TW
I am sure some 2nd ammendment folks did their best to shoot him, but in general, nightclubs and synagogues should be secured by IEDs. It is easy to document their effectiveness.
jergul
large member
Thu Nov 08 11:32:55
I am sure some 2nd ammendment folks did their best to shoot him in Afghanistan (they are strong on gun rights over there).
jergul
large member
Thu Nov 08 11:34:48
An IED app would be perfect. You see a gunman coming so use the app to detonate the IED and save lives.

Paramount
Member
Thu Nov 08 11:35:32
But more guns and carry on.
Rugian
Member
Thu Nov 08 11:35:33
Nice to see you blaming the 2nd Amendment, even though this particular incident could easily be replicated in a shithole like say Norway.

You can't even blame this on "assault weapons of war" this time. It must be so frustrating for you.
Paramount
Member
Thu Nov 08 11:35:51
* Buy
Rugian
Member
Thu Nov 08 11:38:35
Exploitative news media and heavy population concentrations. A deadly combination.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Nov 08 11:46:52
the IED app has merit... evenly distribute IEDs in all public areas & patriots around the country can monitor all the CCTV footage & set them off as needed
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Nov 08 11:47:38
...ok 'CCTV' is clearly not what i meant to go with :p
hood
Member
Thu Nov 08 11:49:26
IED sounds like an extremely promising way to keep everyone out of public spaces.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Nov 08 11:50:50
dammit:

"described as a “weird” loner by a former roommate"
#notAllWeirdLoners

various info on the guy if anyone cares:
http://heavy.com/news/2018/11/randy-howe/
Paramount
Member
Thu Nov 08 11:56:31
Does anyone know what radicalized him?

Has the police arrested his family and friends yet?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Nov 08 12:00:23
sorry, above link wrong :p sorry to implicate the public bar masturbator as the public bar shooter

various info on the actual guy if anyone cares:
http://hea...avid-long-military-background/
obaminated
Member
Thu Nov 08 12:04:46
Another deranged nut.
Sam Adams
Member
Thu Nov 08 12:15:50
"A troubling incident occurred in April 2018, but the sheriff acknowledged that mental health evaluators did not ask for Ian Long to be taken into custody after it."

Yet again, government and fuzzy studiers fail to notice large red flags.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Nov 08 13:06:44
the midterms are now 3 news cycles ago

midterms -> crazy press conference w/ delusional dictator Trump, where Jim Acosta beat up an intern thus losing his press pass -> Sessions firing/Mueller tampering -> shooting
Dukhat
Member
Thu Nov 08 13:26:18
It was the type of place that only white men go too so I don't care.

#cancelwhitepeople
Dukhat
Member
Thu Nov 08 13:27:43
The only safe space is one completely surrounded and filled with IED's.
Sam Adams
Member
Thu Nov 08 13:35:18
Cuckhat is very racist.
murder
Member
Thu Nov 08 13:43:46

"Yet again, government and fuzzy studiers fail to notice large red flags."

There are limitations on what they can do. If he wasn't an immediate threat to himself or others, they can't have him committed.

jergul
large member
Thu Nov 08 13:49:53
Ruggy
We distribute assault weapons of war as part of invasion defence.

My actual position would be according to the wording of your constitution. With emphasis on the well-regulated part.
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