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Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sat Nov 10 01:40:21

It is the two counties in Florida again. When Scott went to bed Tuesday night he was 57,000 votes ahead. Today enough votes have materialized to show him a loser.

Sounds like the old lady in Braun County has been relieved of her duties. It seems the paper ballots that were supposed to be saved for 22 months have been destroyed and all she has is the digital numbers.

Both counties were ordered to stop what they were doing because of lawsuits, the other county did not stop.


As usual, it is one huge attempt by the Democrats to try to steal another election.


They need a major house cleaning down there, they are starting to make us look like a Banana Republic, or worse.

Russia.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Nov 10 11:05:35
there are 2 million people in Broward county... and they have to be counted by the type of people who live in Florida... bound to be issues
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Nov 10 11:30:46
btw... ordering people to stop counting votes is how Bush 'won'

(although i can't really find confirmation of basically anything HR posted so not sure that's happened... there was a deadline at noon though to submit votes)
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sat Nov 10 11:48:23

The deadline came and went. Not sure if they stopped or not.

The thing is Broward county keeps finding more and more ballots. A night or two ago a truck showed up with thousands of ballots. No one has any idea where they came from since the laws covering the ballot protection was not followed.
They blindly accepted the ballots and proceeded to count them.


Like I said it is a huge clusterfuck. Nothing can be proved but it sure looks like chicanery was involved.

Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sat Nov 10 12:00:49

tw - btw... ordering people to stop counting votes is how Bush 'won'


The trouble is no one knows where the ballots came from. They were just found in closets, delivered by a truck in the middle of the night, in the trunk of peoples cars. They just kept showing up until Scott's and the governor's leads have been erased.

They just ignored too many laws, protecting the ballots was probably the worst.

Last night they said the people working there were questioned about their jobs. They said most of them had no idea what they were doing.

Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sat Nov 10 12:03:24

tw - btw... ordering people to stop counting votes is how Bush 'won'


The trouble is no one knows where the ballots came from. They were just found in closets, delivered by a truck in the middle of the night, in the trunk of peoples cars. They just kept showing up until Scott's and the governor's leads have been erased.

They just ignored too many laws, protecting the ballots was probably the worst.

Last night they said the people working there were questioned about their jobs. They said most of them had no idea what they were doing.

They said earlier that they found one woman in a locked room filling in ballots. Not sure if that was true or not or when it happened.



Hrothgar
Member
Sat Nov 10 12:06:30
Hot Rod, you can always take solace in knowing that within 100 years a lot of Florida will be underwater as the sea levels rise due to polar ice cap melt off.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Nov 10 12:06:43
what is your source for any of these claims?

the only thing i saw was the lady got in trouble for destroying ballots after 12 months instead of 22 months for the 2016 race
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sat Nov 10 12:16:28

Hrothgar, you may still be around but I doubt I will be.

Hell, you will likely have a chance to vacation on the moon before you croak.

Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sat Nov 10 12:25:06

tw, I have only listened to FOX since 8:00 PM last evening till 2:30 AM. And since I woke this morning at 7:00 AM.

They have covered the story pretty much.

Borthas
Member
Sat Nov 10 15:13:50
So, your opinion is based entirely on Faux (fake) News?
Average Ameriacn
Member
Sat Nov 10 15:26:01
Same here, nobody needs more than Fox for the correct and UP for the wrong view.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Nov 10 15:26:09
Trump admits he is trying to steal the elections:


"Trying to STEAL two big elections in Florida! We are watching closely!"
http://twi...ump/status/1061335051294728194
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Nov 10 21:52:43
Fox News tweets with "caravan" Nov 1 to Nov 5... 25 times

Fox News tweets with "caravan" Nov 6 to Nov 10... 1 time


weird
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sat Nov 10 23:50:43

tw, now you are being just plain stupid beyond belief.

Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sat Nov 10 23:51:41

tw, we know they are coming. No use beating a dead horse.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Nov 11 11:16:59
i didn't mean to suggest Nov 1 was their first tweet

Fox News tweets with "caravan" in October... 100 times
(& that's exactly 100 i think)

so that horse just happened to die on election day?

125 tweets were necessary to warn the public of the invading army of criminals & terrorists with leprosy, small pox, & unknown diseases, that defeated the Mexican army and now requires our army to stop it... but now everyone is sufficiently prepared and informed?


also the one tweet since election was "Lawyers for migrant caravan members give them stark advice: ‘It’s going to be difficult’"

doesn't sound as threatening as they had been...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Nov 12 11:20:30
"
The Florida Election should be called in favor of Rick Scott and Ron DeSantis in that large numbers of new ballots showed up out of nowhere, and many ballots are missing or forged. An honest vote count is no longer possible-ballots massively infected. Must go with Election Night!
"
~corrupt dictator

i didn't feel like wasting a lot of time, did a quick search for 'forged ballots', just news people reporting Trump saying it

given his history i think it's likely yet another made-up claim based on nothing
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Mon Nov 12 14:11:19

Perhaps he heard the same thing I did.

That a young lady discovered another young lady filling out ballots in a locked room.

Yes, she filed a legal complaint.

jergul
large member
Mon Nov 12 14:16:05
23 Democrats not up for election
42 Republicans not up for election
Lost 2 seats
Gained 2 seats
48,062,635 votes (57.4%)
34,280,990 votes (41.0%)

I am not going to format. Try to guess which numbers go with which party.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Nov 12 14:19:33
"Perhaps he heard the same thing I did"

& from whom did you hear it?

and perhaps the President of the United States should have confirmed information before tweeting it
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Mon Nov 12 14:24:26

That's for the
House.

The flap is over two Senate and one governor.

The flap in Arizona is the one I don't understand.



The Democrat has crazy ideas from what I understand she is close to a full-fledged socialist.

The Republican is the first female to fly live combat missions. I think she is a hero.

Yet the dem is inching ahead.



I don't get it. Hell, maybe McCain made them gunshy, but it really makes no sense.



tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Nov 12 14:25:26
@jergul, given it was mostly D seats that were up for election, D's getting more votes isn't that surprising

but illustrates why Trump declaring it 'close to a total victory' is especially retarded... (only 9 R seats were at risk w/ some uncontested... 26 D seats were at risk, including people in red states)
hood
Member
Mon Nov 12 14:25:52
"The Republican is the first female to fly live combat missions. I think she is a hero."

This has absolutely no bearing on whether they'd be a good politician. Fuck off.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Mon Nov 12 14:30:43

Got to be better than a crazy socialist.

It takes brains to be a combat pilot.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Nov 12 14:32:32
Trump destroyed the party... tough luck
Rugian
Member
Mon Nov 12 14:43:49
hood
Member Mon Nov 12 14:25:52
"This has absolutely no bearing on whether they'd be a good politician. Fuck off."

"A soldier accepts personal responsibility for the safety of the body politic of which he is a member, defending it, if need be, with his life. The civilian does not."
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Nov 12 14:53:20
Sinema (D)

Sinema has been described as a centrist or moderate Democrat. The National Journal gave her a composite ideology score of 57% liberal and 43% conservative

(doesn't sound like full-fledged socialist)

----------

McSally (R)

In the lead-up to announcing her candidacy for the U.S. Senate, McSally began to embrace Trump, running advertising campaigns echoing his conservative immigration policy positions

In an August 2018 candidate forum hosted by the Arizona Republic in advance of the Republican U.S. Senate primary, McSally and opponent Kelli Ward both said they were unconcerned with President Donald Trump's personal character, viewing it as a nonissue in the race.[52] McSally criticized what she said was the media's and Democrats' "obsession" with Trump's character.


what a stupid position, character is extremely important

AZ is making the right choice
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Mon Nov 12 15:03:20

No, she had the right idea.

It is just the people of Arizona all need keepers.

hood
Member
Mon Nov 12 16:46:12
@ rugian:

Cool? Still has no effect on their ability as a politician.
Rugian
Member
Mon Nov 12 17:36:18
Hood,

Completion of service is in and of itself a demonstration that a soldier is more qualified to govern than a civilian. At least according to a certain non-fascist, anyway.
hood
Member
Mon Nov 12 17:51:30
It is not. People need to stop worshiping veterans.
Rugian
Member
Mon Nov 12 18:05:56
Hood,

There is no worship going on here. Service men are not brighter than civilians; in many cases civilians are much more intelligent. Nevertheless, it is best to have soldiers running things, because society is proven to work satisfactorily when they do.
hood
Member
Mon Nov 12 18:31:16
"because society is proven to work satisfactorily when [soldiers lead]."

There is not even remotely sufficient evidence to prove such a statement.


"There is no worship going on here"

Are you next going to try to convince me the earth is flat?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Nov 12 18:39:07
back to Florida... and liars named Donald Trump:

Don Jr posted: "Amazing, but not shocking at all anymore. Nearly 200,000 Florida Voters May Not Be Citizens" (with article)

however his link is to a 2012 news article, and it referenced voter roll discrepancies not actual votes, and the voter rolls were already checked & fixed w/ almost no issues found...

he hasn't deleted the tweet though of course, as the family is garbage
delude
Member
Mon Nov 12 19:32:14
" Nevertheless, it is best to have soldiers running things, because society is proven to work satisfactorily when they do"

HR level retarded logic. GJ.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Mon Nov 12 22:13:23

hood - Are you next going to try to convince me the earth is flat?


I thought that was a basic premise of your knowledge.

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