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Utopia Talk / Politics / Remeber when POTUS was smart
Im better then you
2012 UP Football Champ
Fri Nov 23 13:20:50
and didn't use childish insults.

Fri Nov 23 14:00:26
Brilliant. Obama is the best president America has ever had.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Fri Nov 23 14:31:27


Im better then you
2012 UP Football Champ
Fri Nov 23 14:41:29
If Obama banged a porn star and called her horseface would that change your mind?
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Fri Nov 23 15:10:22

If he had conservative programs and cut regulations instead of adding tens of thousands of pages?


Im better then you
2012 UP Football Champ
Sat Nov 24 13:00:53
well Obama cut taxes and passed a healthcare bill that was created by the rightwing Hertiage foundation and first implemented by a Republican Gov.

Trump has raised taxes on most Americans and restricted trade with just about everyone
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sat Nov 24 13:35:29

There were fundamental differences between the two programs. That is why the Obamacare premiums were going up 50% to 90% a year.

What really ticked me off was him stealing $750,000,000,000, (That is with a 'B'.) from Medicare that will never be recovered. I think that went to the insurance companies.

Sat Nov 24 18:57:07
yep from January 20, 1969 to August 9, 1974.
large member
Sat Nov 24 19:13:27
In an interview on the CBS program 60 Minutes, Mitt Romney said Obama "robbed Medicare" of $716 billion to pay for "Obamacare." We found that exaggerated what Obama had done in the health care law.

While the health care law reduces the amount of future spending growth in Medicare, the law doesn't actually cut Medicare. Savings come from reducing money that goes to private insurers who provide Medicare Advantage programs, among other things. The money wasn’t "robbed." We rated the statement Mostly False.

Responding to the Romney attack, Obama campaign spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter said Ryan's budget relies on the same $700 billion in savings from Medicare that Mitt Romney and other Republicans have been attacking Democrats about.

Ryan has confirmed that, and we rated it True.
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