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tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Nov 29 23:43:04
article about how Trump's Secretary of Labor gave a sweetheart deal to serial child sex abuser Jeffrey Epstein:

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article220097825.html

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"I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it -- Jeffrey enjoys his social life."
~ Trump

sounds like he was very familiar w/ the girls Epstein was with... and apparently 'younger side' meant age 13 to 16

plus we know Trump liked going in the dressing rooms of Miss Universe as well as Miss Teen USA (he flat out admitted to the former)

hard to believe how disgusting a person this 'man is... & how its not crazy internet rumors, it's his own words
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Nov 29 23:54:50
i mean honestly...

- he knows Epstein 15 years
- Trump himself was known to prefer women in their twenties

so for him to call out 'younger side' it had to be a clear (& standard practice) substantial difference than himself

disgustingness proven
zavyx
Member
Fri Nov 30 02:20:16
13 to 16 aren't kids, they're actually quite fuckable.
McKobb
Member
Fri Nov 30 04:50:45
Goataphile!
Cold Rod
Member
Fri Nov 30 05:15:56
Hot rod was almost turned on, until he saw the ages were too old.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Fri Nov 30 08:08:12

"sounds like he was very familiar w/ the girls Epstein was with... and apparently 'younger side' meant age 13 to 16"


"***It is even said*** that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side."



Sounds like Trump is going on hearsay.

Hot Rod
Revved Up
Fri Nov 30 08:17:20

Hawaii's age of consent is 14 I hear.


tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Nov 30 11:50:06
***It is even said*** refers to Epstein being as much of a lech as Trump

plus when Trump uses the 'many people are saying' language... there's not necessarily many people saying it


the fact remains, Trump wouldn't say 'younger side' if it was approximately the same age as the women he dated himself (all 3 of his wives were in their 20s... Trump ages, his brides don't)

"What can look so beautiful at 30? An airplane"
~Trump
Cold Rod
Member
Fri Nov 30 12:36:38
Lol hot rod again showing how completely ignorant and stupid he is.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Fri Nov 30 15:08:09

Why do I bother?

UP Factcheck
Member
Tue Dec 04 02:32:55
Claim: Hawaii's age of consent is 14 I hear.

FACT: The Hawaii Age of Consent is 16 years old. In the United States, the age of consent is the minimum age at which an individual is considered legally old enough to consent to participation in sexual activity. Individuals aged 15 or younger in Hawaii are not legally able to consent to sexual activity, and such activity may result in prosecution for statutory rape.

Hawaii statutory rape law is violated when a person has consensual sexual intercourse with an individual under age 16. Close in age exemptions exist, allowing teens ages 14 and 15 to consent to partners less than 5 years older.
View list of sexual assault laws & punishments in Hawaii

Hawaii has a close-in-age exemption. A close in age exemption, also known as "Romeo and Juliet law", is designed to prevent the prosecution of underage couples who engage in consensual sex when both participants are significantly close in age to each other, and one or both are below the age of consent.

Depending on the situation, the Hawaii close-in-age exemption may completely exempt qualifying close-in-age couples from the age of consent law, or merely provide a legal defence that can be used in the event of prosecution.

http://www.ageofconsent.net/states/hawaii

RATING: The individual, Hot Rod, is wrong. And is rated as a dumbass.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Tue Dec 04 03:48:23

What was it 23 years ago when I last lived there.

Or maybe I was not given the five-year rule when I heard 14.


Why don't you get all of the facts that you expect from me?

Paramount
Member
Tue Dec 04 06:25:52
Do you know how to twerk?
Rugian
Member
Tue Dec 04 07:51:10
Hot Rod,

Your memory is correct, it was 14 when you were there.


"Hawaii

The age of consent in Hawaii is 16. There is however a close-in-age exemption, which allows those aged 14 and 15 to consent to sex with those less than five years older.[49]

Previously the age of consent was 14, the lowest in the United States. Avery Chumbley, a member of the Hawaiian Senate, had made efforts to raise the age of consent.[50] The age of consent was changed to 16 by Act 1, House Bill 236, passed by the Legislature of Hawaii in 2001.[51]"

http://en....f_consent_in_the_United_States
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Tue Dec 04 08:09:59

Thanks, Rugian. I hope you are feeling better.


Do you think that UP Factcheck will print a retraction?


hood
Member
Tue Dec 04 08:19:44
For being correct? Your information is out of date. Your statement was wrong. You didn't say that it used to be 14, you said that you heard it is 14. It is not.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Tue Dec 04 08:36:31

hood, I came back home in time for Christmas 1995.

At the time I left Hawaii the age of consent ***WAS INDEED*** 14 years old. That is the fact that I posted.


The new law was passed in 2001.

How was I to know there was a new law that changed the age of consent especially since UP Factchecker obviously did not know about the change either?

Do you keep track of such laws when you move to another state?

I don't think so.

Hot Rod
Revved Up
Tue Dec 04 08:38:32

BTW, UP Factchecker is the one who is wrong for not posting the change.

hood
Member
Tue Dec 04 08:40:29
^ fucking retarded
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Tue Dec 04 08:44:39

^^^^^ = Just plain stupid.

Bad enough you come on here and print an obvious lie, you are not even man enough to admit you are wrong when given a clear and correct explanation why you are wrong.


Get under the porch mongrel and tuck in that tail.

hood
Member
Tue Dec 04 08:52:08
The only person proved wrong was you, child rapist.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Tue Dec 04 09:16:49


You are a typical liberal socialist without a lick of courage when it comes to honesty and integrity.

Please go away and, in the future, please refrain from entering my threads and/or commenting on my posts.


You are dead to me.

hood
Member
Tue Dec 04 09:40:44
I wish you were dead to (me) everyone. It's truly a shame that someone so lacking in redeemable qualities has lived for so long. A leech at every step of your existence; have you ever provided any value to society?

And then you cannot even admit that you very clearly presented your comment about the age of consent in Hawaii to be what you thought was current law. You cannot accept that you were wrong and that no amount of "bubububububut 20 years ago!!!" will change how ignorantly wrong you always are.

Stop believing your own lies, useless scum. Just contract pneumonia or catch the luck of a good stroke or 3 and fucking die. For good.
Cold Rod
Member
Tue Dec 04 10:55:28
Another example how wrong hot rod is again.

Suicide is an option
Rugian
Member
Tue Dec 04 10:57:53
Well this escalated quickly.
swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Tue Dec 04 11:10:08
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/DtlktRrVAAA02BR.jpg
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Tue Dec 04 11:36:43

Do you think they will ever learn?

Hot Rod
Revved Up
Tue Dec 04 13:05:10

One last attempt, if you cannot comprehend what I am about to post then your logic is hopeless and much worse than you believe mine to be.


"Hawaii's age of consent is 14 I hear."

This means that I heard this fact a moment ago or more than 23 years or more ago.

It is a verb that means "become aware of information"


That is exactly what happened to me 23 plus years ago.

I ***became aware*** that at that time that the age of consent in Hawaii was indeed 14.


A memory is like a boulder in the road. That boulder is going to stay there until something or someone acts upon it.

That memory sat in my memory for 23 plus years without it being acted upon by an outside agent.

To say that it was a lie or even an error is to ascribe to me an omniscience that is reserved for no sentient being that I am aware of.

That memory, to me, was an absolute fact because nothing acted on it to change it to the current reality.

A memory such as that is very likely a boulder sitting in the minds of each and every cognizant human being on planet earth about one subject or other.

Did you know that gel ballpoint pens can now start writing at the instant you start pushing the pen across paper? My guess is there are not more than one or two folks on this forum that know that and very likely you were not one of them. I just learned it a few weeks ago myself. It is an example of progress, of change.


As you get older you will make many statements that you honestly and truly believe to be true and you will eventually find out that progress has passed by what you thought to be a gospel memory that you had no idea that it is no longer true because of progress or because someone made a somewhat logical change to a law.


There you have it. I told the absolute truth, as I knew it, when I posted, "Hawaii's age of consent is 14 I hear" in this forum on 'Fri Nov 30 08:17:20'.


I sincerely hope this logic gets through to you.

There is nothing wrong in admitting an error, I have admitted being wrong more times over the years than all of the liberals combined. And made more apologies, but that is a different subject.

It is wrong to maintain someone is lying when all they have done is make a statement that has been superseded without their knowledge.

That Sir is not a lie.

Since I am a sentient being, It is simply an error in knowledge.



Hot Rod
Revved Up
Tue Dec 04 13:06:43

That is one of the longest posts I ever made, I hope you bother to read it, carefully.

patom
Member
Tue Dec 04 13:21:50
So getting back to the subject at hand. Does anyone think that Trump transported himself to Hawaii or anywhere else to take advantage of young girls? Or his good friend?
hood
Member
Tue Dec 04 13:33:52
Become aware != Became aware. To become aware is present tense. Hear is present tense. The past tense of hear is heard. If you became aware (past tense), you would have heard, not hear.

So point 1, you are wrong.


The error is in representing what you remembered from 23 years ago as relevant today and in present tense. You could have said "last I knew" or some other qualifying phrase to demonstrate that your knowledge might not be up to date. You did not. You were wrong.

It's strange that you jump to lying. Nobody accused you of lying, only of having the wrong information. Out of date information is still wrong. The first instance of "lie" in this thread was said by you. The first instance of "lying" was also made by you. You are wrong and your accusations of people claiming that you lied are false. They are, in fact, an actual lie. You're the only person in this thread lying.


You are a colossal retard.

Hot Rod
Revved Up
Tue Dec 04 15:29:57

patom, NO!



"Nobody accused you of lying"

"Stop believing your own lies"


That makes you a liar too.



And if anyone is a colossal retard, that would be you and every one of your ancestors that brought something as weird and lacking in English conversation as you into this world.

You are the one that needs to die and make the world a better place.


BTW, I served in The United States Army and my daily work area was in Germany and about 50 yards from an Atomic Canon. Every morning when I woke up I never knew if I would make it till breakfast or not.

I venture that would count as more of a contribution to society than anything that you have ever made in your puny little life.


Shoot man, you don't even have a girlfriend.

You are nothing but a creepy little bully that comes to the internet to beat up on people to try to convince yourself that you have a semblance of an ego.

Go die and make the world a better place.

Cold Rod
Member
Tue Dec 04 15:44:49
This is what happens to Hot Rod when he gets caught being wrong. He made a declaration believing about an age of consent. Was shown incorrect and his now upset he was called out on it and declaring others are wrong or liars. This is the stupidity of Hot Rod that everyone is familiar with. This is why Hot Rod for most of his existence on this forum has been mocked, lampooned, a topic of discussion related to his intelligence, why archives of threads are themed after him exploiting his complete and utter failures of logic, incorrect information, and why still to this present day by trolls and multi accounts is ridiculing him.

His incorrigibility, his feign and pseudo acknowledgements of when he is corrected to only then turn around and say how wrong you are despite the overwhelming facts stacked again him. Hot Rod should heed his own advices and really consider suicide as an option.

The gems over the years exploiting his stupidity; threads "a teabaggers belief system" "the 5 stages of hot rod" "up factcheck posts and archivists." The list goes on. And yet in this thread for being blatantly incorrect about an age of consent and shown he was factually incorrect. As he stated that he currently believes that it was 14. He still cannot accept the fact that he was wrong about it.

This makes him an unbelievable human being who is incapable of being corrected. He is a sheeple, who lacks any cognizance. He is the "old yeller" and is now a bane to society, a leech and serves no purpose other than promoting falsehoods, lies, and deceit.

What an incredible piece of filth he is.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Tue Dec 04 16:00:40

cr - This is what happens to Hot Rod when he gets caught being wrong. He made a declaration believing about an age of consent.


I will admit that heard might have been a better word.


But, logic dictates that the word that I used is perfectly correct.

Now I see why hood[lum] doesn't have a girlfriend. He has you.

I hope you are happy together.

hood
Member
Tue Dec 04 17:41:00
"But, logic dictates that the word that I used is perfectly correct."

No. You are fucking stupid.


"BTW,"

I don't really give two shits if you were replaceable cannon fodder in the military. Any poor schmuck could have performed your job. It's not like you were serving in WWII; you sat there doing your job outside of combat.


"Shoot man, you don't even have a girlfriend"

What makes you believe this? Or are you pulling shit out of your ass again, such as claiming people accused you of lying?
hood
Member
Tue Dec 04 17:41:00
"But, logic dictates that the word that I used is perfectly correct."

No. You are fucking stupid.


"BTW,"

I don't really give two shits if you were replaceable cannon fodder in the military. Any poor schmuck could have performed your job. It's not like you were serving in WWII; you sat there doing your job outside of combat.


"Shoot man, you don't even have a girlfriend"

What makes you believe this? Or are you pulling shit out of your ass again, such as claiming people accused you of lying?
hood
Member
Tue Dec 04 17:41:12
aw, damn. double post. :(
delude
Member
Tue Dec 04 18:46:09
This is an epic failure of HR.
Paramount
Member
Wed Dec 05 11:46:57
If Trump is running a child sex ring he needs to resign immediately. That’s outrageous.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Dec 05 11:49:32
^agreed... i bet people on Fox News are unwilling to make that statement over & over though
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Wed Dec 05 21:36:52

hood - aw, damn. double post. :(


That's why you are impotent.

so what
Member
Thu Dec 06 14:04:56
Very interesting, cause during the campaign Trump used Eppstein's connection to Bill Clinton, who flew 26 times with Lolita Express, to attack Hillary.

I hope this blows up.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Dec 06 15:23:45
Ben Sasse (one of the decent R senators) wants answers so that should help
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Thu Dec 06 15:45:23

Please don't bash Trump again, I'm talking about good men in general.

This is how you liberals ruin the reputation of good men and ruin their lives. Just telling one lie after another.




"Paramount
Member Wed Dec 05 11:46:57
If Trump is running a child sex ring he needs to resign immediately. That’s outrageous.


tumbleweed
the wanderer Wed Dec 05 11:49:32
^agreed... i bet people on Fox News are unwilling to make that statement over & over though"

delude
Member
Thu Dec 06 16:33:06
"Please don't bash Trump again, I'm talking about good men in general.

This is how you liberals ruin the reputation of good men and ruin their lives. Just telling one lie after another. "

You are undoubtedly the stupidest person on the internet.
Memory Lane
Member
Thu Dec 06 16:34:08
I remember Hot Rod's continuation into the ring of pedophilia. There are many examples and his own admittance.

I drink and remember things.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Thu Dec 06 18:17:45

deluded - "Please don't bash Trump again, I'm talking about good men in general.

This is how you liberals ruin the reputation of good men and ruin their lives. Just telling one lie after another. "

You are undoubtedly the stupidest person on the internet.


See how smart the 'deluded' Democrat is. He believes foul lies do ***NOT*** "ruin the reputation of good men and ruin their lives."

That is the height of the Democratic pseudo-intellectualism.


Or pretty close to the top anyway.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Dec 06 21:07:19
Trump traffics in foul lies

also i was making a joke... in line w/ Gilbert Godfried's Bob Saget roast routine (which seems extremely hard to locate w/ all the nonsense incorporating parts of it, & w/ Glenn Beck apparently raping & killing a girl in 1990, & perhaps Comedy Central being a copyright nazi)


possibly accurate transcript:
“A lot of you are saying, ‘Why should we pick Bob Saget, who raped and killed a girl in 1990? Should we even waste two seconds on Bob Saget, who raped and killed a girl in 1990?’

Well first of all, it’s not true! It's not true that Bob Saget raped and killed a girl in 1990. So if you have any proof that Bob Saget raped and killed a girl in 1990, stop gossiping and go right to the police with it!”
----

(there had been no rumor that Bob Saget raped and killed a girl in 1990)
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Thu Dec 06 23:06:55

My point exactly.

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