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Paramount
Member
Sun Dec 02 03:52:57
I thought only africans and arabs rioted and set cars and buildings on fire. What the hell is going on?

Several people has been killed and many wounded. But the white old men who are part of the protests says they are peaceful:

"We're a peaceful movement, but we're disorganised -- it's a mess because we don't have a leader," said Dan Lodi, a 68-year-old pensioner on the Champs-Elysees.

http://afp...-anti-macron-protests/a/Kvg5kE

Violent clashes engulf Paris in new anti-Macron protests

Anti-government protesters torched dozens of cars and set fire to storefronts during daylong clashes with riot police across central Paris on Saturday, as thousands took part in fresh "yellow vest" protests against high fuel taxes.

Officers responded with tear gas after being targeted by protesters hurling rocks and other projectiles on the third weekend of demonstrations which have morphed into a broader rebuke of French President Emmanuel Macron.

Smoke engulfed several shopping districts as the violence spread from the Arc de Triomphe, where crowds had gathered earlier hoping to march down the Champs-Elysees.

While several dozens were allowed into the avenue after an ID check and search, many others -- some wearing gas masks or ski goggles -- remained behind and fought police manning barricades and water cannons.

Protesters then led police on cat-and-mouse chases through other parts of the capital, setting cars and construction equipment alight and smashing windows.

An assault rifle was stolen from a police vehicle, a source told AFP, though it was unclear if it was loaded.

One person was in a critical condition after protesters pulled down one of the huge iron gates of the Tuileries garden facing the famed Louvre museum, crushing several people.

^ lol, these people are not the smartest people.



"Those responsible for this violence don't want change or improvement, they want chaos," President Emmanuel Macron said in Buenos Aires where he was attending the G20 summit.

Macron added that he had convened a meeting with Prime Minister Edouard Philippe, Interior Minister Christophe Castaner and other top officials in Paris on Sunday after his return from Argentina.

"No cause justifies that authorities are attacked, that businesses are plundered, that passers-by or journalists are threatened or that the Arc de Triomphe is defiled," he said.

Philippe said the violence was "incredibly shocking" during a visit evening to a police barracks on Saturday evening.

Authorities said at least 287 people were arrested in Paris and 110 injured, including 17 of the 5,000 police officers mobilised for the protests. Nearly 190 fires were put out and six buildings were set alight, the interior ministry said.

[...]

Along the opulent Avenue Foch near the Arc de Triomphe, home to embassies and luxury residences, protesters ripped out benches to form a blockade, one person waving a skull-and-bones pirate flag.

Interior Minister Castaner attributed the violence to "specialists in sowing conflict, specialists in destruction".

He did not rule out imposing a state of emergency -- a demand made by the police union Alliance -- declaring: "Nothing is taboo for me. I am prepared to examine everything."

- -

Yeah, I think they need to declare a state of emergency and start to shoot all the violent protesters. Let’s be honest, these hooligans are probably being paid by Trump’s people: Steve Bannon and their movement. The French police and the army needs to kill them all.
werewolf dictator
Member
Sun Dec 02 04:22:11
looks like a far right le pen infiltrator for sure

http://i.d...7-image-a-44_1543687314231.jpg
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Sun Dec 02 04:33:43
"The movement has grown via social media to encompass rising anger at high taxes and living costs, and broader criticism of President Macron's economic policies. It has supporters across the political spectrum, from far left to far right"

Looks like a diverse gang of misfits.
Paramount
Member
Sun Dec 02 04:39:38
It is time to stop treating the Steve Bannons with silk golves. Take off the silk gloves and crush their heads. Kill all of them. It will eventually come down to this anyways, so.

I mean, it is likely not a coincidence that a short time after Bannon’s visit to Paris where he met and conspired with his fascists in the Movement, that all of this is happening. These protests are staged. They have two groups of people. One group of honest-looking pensioners, who to the regular Parisian looks to be legit, who starts the protests and attracts more people outside of the movement to join the protests. Then they have the group of hooligans and thugs whose mission is to create chaos and destroy the liberal democracy.

So now that they have started it we should defend ourselves by killing them off.
Paramount
Member
Sun Dec 02 04:47:27
”Looks like a diverse gang of misfits”

Of course. Once there are riots on the streets, you will have the poor and clueless immigrant youths from the suburbs taking part in the riots as well, as well as anarchists from the left. All that Bannon and the fascists needs to do is to stage the ground and lit the first match. Then they can watch it all play out.
werewolf dictator
Member
Sun Dec 02 05:13:31
destroying property by burning cars [only inexplicably irrational actions by protestors] still seems modus operandi of africans and arabs and far left


lol at bannon being evil mastermind and calling on mass murder spree
obaminated
Member
Sun Dec 02 06:15:50
ah, watching mountme begin to panic as he realizes the socialist house of cards he has lived in is crumbling down is enjoyable.
Rugian
Member
Sun Dec 02 06:32:13
Yep, it's really amusing to see so-called "tolerant" Swedes like Mountme and WTB immediately call for the mass murder of their rivals the second things start going against them.
Paramount
Member
Sun Dec 02 06:37:38
”lol at bannon being evil mastermind and calling on mass murder spree”

Bannon is a front guy. He is like a coordinator/manager. The masterminds are the Israeli and Jewish ultra-nationalists. I simply call them Zionists.
Paramount
Member
Sun Dec 02 06:43:35
You can not be tolerant with fascists who is seeking to destroy democracies. We waged war against them at one time and we hung them on the streets. We can do it again.
Rugian
Member
Sun Dec 02 06:45:32
^as stupid as Paramount is sounding right now, just replace "Jews" with "Russia" and you'd have a mainstream anti-Trump REEEEE position.
Paramount
Member
Sun Dec 02 07:47:18
”ah, watching mountme begin to panic [...] is enjoyable.”


If or when people’s fear and panic for the fascists starts to result in the deaths of fascists, I doubt it’s going to be enjoyable for you anymore.
Rugian
Member
Sun Dec 02 08:14:50
So now MT is a fascist as well? ROFL

The only people trying to destroy your society are the leftists that are importing millions of Muslims to replace you.
Rugian
Member
Sun Dec 02 08:32:03
Out of morbid curiosity, I googled to see what specifically makes "far"-right (aka moderate right) politicians like Le Pen fascist. Be warned, my fellow UPers; the following disturbing list may shock you.

Marine Le Pen is a fascist who hates democracy because:

-Her political platform includes proposed constitutional amendments, and wanting to change the constitution is in and of itself fascist. Somebody better inform the anti-2A people of this.

-She wants to make it easier to change laws via popular referendums. How anti-democratic.

-She wants French people to be proud of their country and culture. As an American, I have no idea what there is to be proud of (they're very good at surrendering maybe?), but to each their own.

-She wants to leave the EU. WTF HOW DARE SHE NOT BE A FAN OF SUBJECTING HER COUNTRY TO EUROPE'S CORPORATE ELITIST MONSTROSITY?!?!?! RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

-For some indeterminable reason, she has a problem with leftist media outlets that constantly portray her as an enemy of progress and civilization.

----

Yeah, now that I've educated myself I can see how this woman is a much bigger threat to democracy than the Muslim refugees who are literally opposed to Western civilization.
Paramount
Member
Sun Dec 02 09:15:27
”She wants to make it easier to change laws via popular referendums.”

Hm.. why does she want uneducated fools, who knows nothing, to be able to vote on what kind of laws France should have?
Rugian
Member
Sun Dec 02 09:26:20
You're right; democracy is a mistake.
Pillz
Member
Sun Dec 02 10:10:35
Lmao parafail
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun Dec 02 11:06:11

Socialism in action, you asked for it suckers,

obaminated
Member
Sun Dec 02 12:45:16
lol, mountme now wants there to be tests people must pass before they are allowed to vote. good for you mountme, you fight the good fight against those anti-democratic fascists.
jergul
large member
Sun Dec 02 12:56:18
Rule by popular decree bypasses a lot of democratic checks and balances. Everyone knows that.
Pillz
Member
Sun Dec 02 13:45:55
Jergul competing with parafail to see which of them is the bigger fascist?
Sam Adams
Member
Sun Dec 02 13:59:35

"I thought only africans and arabs rioted and set cars and buildings on fire."

The hilarious thing is that the rioters are mostly africans and arabs.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun Dec 02 15:16:46

Obaminated - lol, mountme now wants there to be tests people must pass before they are allowed to vote.



I wonder if paramounted wants tests like the Democrats gave the Blacks in the deep South when they showed up to vote.

Little tests like reciting The U.S. Constitution, or The Declaration of Independence.

Before Civil Rights of course.

Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Mon Dec 03 02:46:17
Paramount,

Of course the ”fascists” control everything and everyone else are clueless pawns without agency getting trapped in fascist conspiracies, even the anti-fascists are helpless and end up joining fascist riots. Is that what you are saying, bror?
Paramount
Member
Mon Dec 03 05:46:55
I want a representative democracy like we have. People get to vote for a political party. Our Riksdag is then deciding the laws.

If we would have direct democracy where people would get to decide the laws via popular referendums, it would be a receipe for disaster. An entire population is not knowledgable or educated in all and every issue/subject. They don’t have the neccessary knowledge to analyze and make a good decision.

If our laws would be decided by popular referendums, it means if there was enough Hot Rods then pedophilia would be legal. But yeah, maybe that is what Le Pen, Hot Rod, Obaminated and Rugian wants.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Mon Dec 03 05:55:57
Paramount is making the Leftwing revised case for ”God” as the foundation for moral values, he just replaced god with ”government”. Why, if we allow the peasants to give up god, chaos would ensue, people will start raping babies in the streets! It is funny how much of Christian moral philosophy the left inherited.
jergul
large member
Mon Dec 03 06:29:28
Pillz
Mkay. Lets start with constitutional amedments by way of referenda. Do you think the the 2nd amendment will make the cut? Or a new amendment mandating the phasing out of fossil fuels. Would that make the cut?

I stand corrected. There are tons of things that direct democracy can resolve if pesky checks and balances are bypassed.

Nimi
He is making the case for representative democracy and political systems with robust checks and balances to avoid abuse and tyranny (for example tyranny of the majority).

Calling everything you do not like for worship is a religion into itself.
jergul
large member
Mon Dec 03 06:31:10
A referendum to mandate that all US presidents must have decent haircuts or face automatic impeachment.

A winner!
Rugian
Member
Mon Dec 03 06:41:10
jergul,

The United States is not a unitary republic like France is, so your hypotheticals would not be realizable on legal grounds.

Regardless, thank you for your input. Supporting popular referendums is proof that an individual is a fascist. Got it.
werewolf dictator
Member
Mon Dec 03 08:57:04
trump should send ambassador over who hands out cookies and encourages overthrow of government
Rugian
Member
Mon Dec 03 09:05:06
Is that a Ukraine reference? Well played.
jergul
large member
Mon Dec 03 11:39:12
Ruggy
I think the term is "useful idiots". But of course, the premise is that a country give up balances and checks and introduce rule by popular decree in their places.

As you correctly point out, most countries have checks to make sure that cannot occur - or occur only in limited scope, or as non-binding advisory votes.

Which is fair enough.
jergul
large member
Mon Dec 03 11:39:58
Too bad really. There should be a referendum on the 2nd ammendment. That would play out with lots of lulz.
Pillz
Member
Mon Dec 03 11:43:34
You're clearly suffering jergul. Visit Switzerland, let them end it for you
Paramount
Member
Mon Dec 03 11:57:06
There is a reason why a burger flipper isn’t the CEO of Burger King, Nimatzo. If you put a burger flipper in charge, chances are it will turn out to be a disaster for the company. A company has a CEO and Board who runs and decides things. A country has a parliament.

Also, do you think it’s practical to have a popular referendum everytime a law is made or changed? Wtf is this? You are joking, right?
Paramount
Member
Mon Dec 03 11:59:22
Rugian,
”Supporting popular referendums is proof that an individual is a fascist”

No, but it is proof of how dumb the fascist Le Pen is.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Mon Dec 03 13:38:28
>>There is a reason why a burger flipper isn’t the CEO of Burger King, Nimatzo. If you put a burger flipper in charge, chances are it will turn out to be a disaster for the company. A company has a CEO and Board who runs and decides things. A country has a parliament.<<

So the only reason you are not out fucking children is because it is illegal? Where are all these people who would suddenly vote to legalize pedophilia, rename left to right and right to left, which btw very different in degree of complexity of problem for the ordinary "moron" to solve than say running Burger King. So Burger King would be a far better example for the point you are trying to make. So stop with your Christian moral scare mongering.
jergul
large member
Mon Dec 03 13:58:26
Pillz
Sure. Right after a refendum is held on the divisive issue we know as the 2nd ammendment.

Show the way, libertariantard.

Nimi
Nothing wrong or religious with pointing out that viable democracies depend on checks and balances to function and avoid cooption.
obaminated
Member
Mon Dec 03 14:11:07
Who is arguing against that? Mountme is arguing against democracy sans any laws behind passed.
Pillz
Member
Mon Dec 03 17:10:50
Like Rugian said, the US can't have such a referendum.

But I do believe that the only real democracy is direct democracy.

You want everyone to vote, but not the old or the stupid. And only elected representatives (representing like what, a total of 0.00001% of the population, should vote on important topics (and only in favor of trending Twitter opinion I imagine).

You fellate putin daily, clearly you appreciate authoritarian governments led by strongmen and ignoring the will of the people. Why not just admit it and give up the pretense of respecting democracy. Just say it, you have an absolute disregard for the premise and the implementations of democracy and are imprinting authoritarianism onto a democratic model.

And you are a communist with a sadistic affinity for federalist Russia.
Pillz
Member
Mon Dec 03 17:12:21
*masochistic

I assume in the misplaced and inhumane belief that communism will reclaim what putin has built.
jergul
large member
Mon Dec 03 18:10:51
Pillz
And like I said to Ruggy. Yepp, most countries have checks and balances that block rule by popular decree. The US is hardly unique.

Revolution starts at home, bro. Why don't I buy popcorn and you start fighting the domestic tyrants standing in the way on your own idea of "true democracy"

It would be lulzy.
Rugian
Member
Mon Dec 03 18:19:40
jergul,

Actually, my point was that the federal structure of the United States makes it structurally impossible to hold such a referendum. France does not have this problem due to its unitary structure.

For the record, I'm not a fan of unitary republics. France could absolutely benefit from a measure of federalization and decentralization.

Also for the record, many individual states due indeed allow for referendums and ballot questions. Certainly these measures are subject to a degree of control, but the fundamental belief is that the same people who have been declared competent enough to vote in their chosen lawmakers and magistrates are also competent enough to vote in their chosen policies.

I mean, how can you logically believe otherwise. It would make zero sense.
Rugian
Member
Mon Dec 03 18:19:57
Say structure again, Rugian.
jergul
large member
Mon Dec 03 18:47:25
Ruggy
Yes, you Constitution has checks and balances that disallow those kind of referenda. Just like other countries have constitutions that disallow such things.

Your Constitution has the form it does to avoid a tyranny of the majority. It is there by design.

It is not a question of competency beyond the part where legislation is often highly technical.

To me it is more a question of how direct democracy can be abused. I alluded to that by showcasing the 2nd ammedment might quickly fall if your Constitution had granted referenda regulatory powers.

But sure. If we ever get a 2/3ds majority to change our constitution to allow for regulatory (as opposed to advisory) referenda, then I will accept that.

Or thank god for checks and balances to use other words.
jergul
large member
Mon Dec 03 18:56:58
My position is generally pretty consistent. Crimea has held a referendum on reuniting with Russia for example. That does not change my view on the illegality of the Russian occupation (which due to the claim of annexation is in principle is a far worse violation of international law than Iraq, Afghanistan, or Libya ever were).
swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Tue Dec 04 09:20:19
Macron Blinks: France Suspends Fuel Tax Hike After "Yellow Vest" Riots

http://www...lent-yellow-vest-protests-loom
so what
Member
Wed Dec 05 13:41:01
One of the reasons the French government raised the fuel prices is to be in line with the Paris accords, to combat "old" polluting technology by taxing it, so as to stimulate people to switch over to buy less polluting technology that is taxed less. And to generate funds to comply with the Paris accords to finance climate change related projects. Ofcourse to help the developed world and to save the planet, but that corporations and consultancies profit from it, won't hurt either. Or the politicians who get kickbacks paid out to their favorite charities and foundations...

Well, anyway, it seems most of the common people aren't that interested to fund the Paris accords...
jergul
large member
Wed Dec 05 13:53:31
"Most" common people in France cannot afford to fund the Paris accords though flat tax initiatives like the proposed gasoline tax.
Dukhat
Member
Wed Dec 05 15:12:45
Taxing Carbon directly makes more sense as does promoting sequestration. Retarded stupid people combined with big corporate money funding riots is a deadly combination.

Probably will need to engineer some kind of plague that kills off low-iq people. Or just flood their areas with opiods.
Pillz
Member
Wed Dec 05 15:26:39
Who is funding the Africans and arabs to riot?
obaminated
Member
Wed Dec 05 15:26:52
what a fascist idea for you to propose, cuckhat.
so what
Member
Thu Dec 06 11:22:08
it is a corporate interest to have the common people pay for it. obliging people to pay 100 billion a year to finance climate related projects is lucrative business.
Dukhat
Member
Thu Dec 06 11:50:06
People need to change their personal decisions regarding carbon use. A revenue-neutral carbon tax that is used to fund even a tax rebate that goes 100% back to consumers would be a powerful tool to fight it.

But watching what happened, looks like what Paramount says was right. Some peaceful protesters were combined with a small number of violent protesters which then brought out a large amount of disaffected people that would've protested over nothing.

Most people are just failures and look to latch onto any narrative. The power of the far-right is that they have a shit-ton of money to spend on creating one that serves the needs of the kleptocrats and then exploding the meaning of any event to fit that narrative. They even work together across boundaries to feed off seemingly unrelated nationalist movements in other countries.

And the baby boomer retards who have ruined our economy and are ruining our world eat it up hook, line and sinker.
Paramount
Member
Thu Dec 06 12:24:52
”An official in Macron’s office said intelligence suggested some protesters would come to the capital with the aim to “vandalize and kill”. There is concern about far-right, anarchist and anti-capitalist groups like the Black Bloc, which have piggybacked off the ‘yellow vest’ movement.”

http://www...llow-vest-unrest-idUSKBN1O50YV


I would not be surprised if the far-right thugs are being paid the mafia regime in the US. They hate Macron (and Merkel) and they want the french to start killing each other and get rid of Macron.
so what
Member
Thu Dec 06 12:50:09
Macron's approval rating and trustworthiness with the French people is lower than Trump's approval rating and trustworthiness with the American people.

And violent black clad antifa people are commonly more seen as extreme left and sponsored by NGO's like the open society foundation.
Allahuakbar
Member
Sat Dec 08 18:03:37
http://www...nce-to-attack-europe-on-rights




Turkish president says watching protests with great ‘concern’

Europeans often criticize Erdogan for intolerance of dissent




Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan used the violent clashes between protesters and police in Paris to respond in kind to long-standing European criticism of his handling of political opposition at home.

“We will never approve of violent expression of demands for rights, but all opinions and demands can be made clear in democracies,” Erdogan said on Saturday. “Those who mocked our police force, accusing it of brutality, should now look at their own police force. Europe has failed the class on democracy, freedoms and human rights.”

The Turkish president was addressing supporters in Istanbul, the cultural heartland rocked five years ago by months of unrest that was met with a heavy-handed police response. At the time and since then, Erdogan has often been attacked by European leaders for being too harsh on dissent. Criticism of Erdogan strengthened after a failed coup in 2016 led to a huge number of arrests and the detention of many journalists, academics and opposition politicians for extended periods.

The French protests by the “Yellow Vests” in Paris have given the Turkish president a rare chance to take the high moral ground. “I watch what’s happening in European capitals with concern,” he said.

Erdogan’s message has a resonance among die-hard fans. A Haber, a staunchly pro-government news channel, has been broadcasting the Paris protests all day, portraying the events as a mixture of popular resentment toward social policies in France and as the outcome of a foreign conspiracy aimed at undermining France, much like the anti-government protests that began in Istanbul in the middle of 2013 and spread to the rest of the country.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sat Dec 08 23:05:20

Been going on a month now.

It's starting to look like the peasants are serious.

Paramount
Member
Sun Dec 09 03:48:15
Why are there no protests in the USA. Why aren’t Americans on the streets protesting Trump and demanding his resignition.

Maybe the Americans loves Trump after all.

Or maybe it is because it wouldn’t make sense for Trump’s side to pay people to protest against themselves.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Sun Dec 09 04:48:11

Trump has done nothing but good things for America.

Rugian
Member
Sun Dec 09 08:33:08
Another weekend of chaos and pandemonium. Macron needs to step down immediately and fade into permanent obscurity.
Paramount
Member
Sun Dec 09 13:09:22
In 1968 de Gaulle had to flee Paris. This is probably what the Netanyahos and their right-winged thugs in france is hoping to happen again – that Macron flees Paris. Merkel is gone, so they are now doing everything to get rid of Macron too.
Rugian
Member
Sun Dec 09 13:29:58
"The Netanyahos and their right-winged thugs"

You mean the poor people who want to be able to afford driving to work?
obaminated
Member
Sun Dec 09 13:44:10
Mountme is gonna be in for a rough decade as all the social constructs he has depended upon completely fall out from under him. Not even joking to say there is a pretty good chance he will end up denouncing freedoms in order to live in a stable and controlled society.
obaminated
Member
Mon Dec 10 13:13:22
Haha. Watching Macron scramble in his "we will pay you more and won't tax you" speech is fantastic. The liberal institutions are crumbling down and they dont know what to do about it. Maybe stop inviting uneducated migrants into your streets?
Dukhat
Member
Mon Dec 10 13:17:53
Obaminated - You're a fucking imbecile and have no idea what's going on.

Everything has to fit you pre-existing narrative because you lack brain cells.

Dumb Fuck Incel.
obaminated
Member
Mon Dec 10 14:37:47
Oh hi cuckhat, how's your sex life?
jergul
large member
Mon Dec 10 19:30:16
Obam
So Macron wants to make the fossil fuel taxes budget neutral. What about that does not seem doable to you?
obaminated
Member
Mon Dec 10 20:36:07
shh jergul, i am not nim or SA, i don't waste hours talking to a mouthpiece.
jergul
large member
Mon Dec 10 20:43:27
Conspiracy theory much?
Rugian
Member
Mon Dec 10 20:45:29
Woah! I didn't hear right. I can't believe what I read. This is for you, MT. I got respect for this kid, he's got a lot of fucking balls. Good for you! Don't take no shit off nobody! A guy goes off on a red herring, he tells him to go fuck himself. Jergul, you gonna let this fucking punk get away with that? What's this world coming to?
jergul
large member
Mon Dec 10 21:05:13
Ruggy
Butt-hurt by my passivity comment I see. Way to try and overcompensate.
Rugian
Member
Mon Dec 10 21:22:33
jergul,

ROFL.
Dukhat
Member
Mon Dec 10 23:14:36
More like Obam has nothing to say because he is ignorant. Just lots of cuck jokes and trying to force everything into his Alex-Jones view of the world.
jergul
large member
Tue Dec 11 04:43:30
Dukhat
Yah, the moral of the story is don't push someone already backed into a corner.

A significant number of people cannot afford the price hike and cannot afford to lose the use of their car.

The fix is to improve their incomes on the one hand, then hope they use it on to them now more affordable ecocars.

Which is pretty much what Macron is doing.
obaminated
Member
Tue Dec 11 10:24:39
cuckhat, go home and get your fuckin' shinebox.
Paramount
Member
Tue Dec 11 11:15:52
What would we all do if Obaminated stopped posting. This place would not survive.
swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Tue Dec 11 11:25:05
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/DuDsMAMWoAY2bOL.jpg
Rugian
Member
Tue Dec 11 11:30:29
^fucking fascist scum
Dukhat
Member
Tue Dec 11 12:08:42
Macron is a retard. He was lucky Trump had just been elected and France always tries to do the opposite of what America does and so elected Macron: a man whose reforms are antithetical to the socialist-leanings of the French public.

Now by being such a failure, he opens the way for Le Pen to show up again.

The liberal order needs to fix their conservative parties so that the far-right doesn't keep hijacking things.
Pillz
Member
Tue Dec 11 13:41:05
That's it.

Clearly cuckhat just strings words together at random
Forwyn
Member
Tue Dec 11 14:19:16
"Le Pen"
"far-right"

lol
swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Tue Dec 11 14:32:03
Yellow Vest Protests Grow in Belgium and The Netherlands

http://tim...tests-belgium-the-netherlands/
obaminated
Member
Tue Dec 11 18:25:54
It is conservatism in France that caused Macron to desperately give a speech normally reserved for a state leader just before succumbing to a coup. Cuckhat really knows the issues.
Pillz
Member
Tue Dec 11 18:47:28
This is what happens when you do not punish collaborators, hordes of yellow vested nazis
jergul
large member
Tue Dec 11 19:30:22
While in the US you make their children Presidents.
Dukhat
Member
Tue Dec 11 22:32:46
Macron is unpopular because he cut taxes on the wealthy and then raised taxes on the poor too. French people are not climate-change denialists but Macron's policies don't have a wide base of support. He's basically like a less ignorant Trump in his policies so far.
jergul
large member
Wed Dec 12 00:12:42
(I was refering to the Kennedy clan. Who as the name tells you are immigrants and Papists).
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Wed Dec 12 09:50:57

Time to bring back the guillotine.

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