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Rugian
Member
Tue Dec 11 13:30:56
This guy provides more entertainment than HBO. God bless him, I hope he stays in office forever.

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Trump meeting with Schumer, Pelosi erupts over border wall funding

By Meridith McGraw

Dec 11, 2018, 2:09 PM ET

Political fireworks erupted in the Oval Office Tuesday between President Trump, Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer and House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi over border wall funding.

At first, the president welcomed Pelosi and Schumer into the Oval Office and discussed criminal justice reform while rattling off numbers about the proposed border wall. But things quickly turned into an open argument with the president eventually threatening to shut down the government over the border wall dispute.

When Schumer said to Trump, "You said 'I will shut down the government if I don't get my wall'," Trump shot back, "I am proud to shut down the government for border security, Chuck. People in this country don't want criminals and people that have lots of problems and drugs pouring into our country. I will take the mantle. I will be the one to shut it down. I won't blame you for it. The last time, you shut it down. It didn't work. I will take the mantle of shutting it down.

"I'm going to shut it down for border security," the president said.

Trump, Pelosi and Schumer were scheduled to meet at the White House to come to an agreement on border funding to avert a potential government shutdown. No agreement was made. Instead, three of the most powerful leaders in government went back and forth over the wall and border security for almost 13 minutes as the press, presidential advisers, and Vice President Pence looked on.

"We may not have an agreement today. We probably won't. But we have an agreement on other things that are really good," Trump said at the beginning.

The meeting began civilly and Pelosi thanked the president for the opportunity to meet with him "so that we can work together in a bipartisan way to meet the needs of the American people."

But then, the mood shifted.

"I think the American people recognize that we must keep the government open. That a shut down is not worth anything, and we should not have a Trump shut down," Pelosi said.

The president interrupted her.

"A what? Did you say 'Trump'?" the president said, before adding under his breath, "I was going to call it a Pelosi shutdown."

The White House, Republicans, and Democrats have until Dec. 21 to avoid a government shutdown over border spending. The president has continued to push for $5 billion in government funding for a border wall, far beyond the $1.6 billion the Republican Senate initially requested for border security.

"Let me say one thing. The fact is, you do not have the votes in the House," Pelosi said.

"Nancy, I do. We need border security. Nancy, Nancy. We need border security," Trump said, emphatically waving his hands.

Then Schumer jumped in.

"Mr. President. You say, 'My way, or we will shut down the government.' We have a proposal with Democrats and Republicans, that they will support, to do a [continuing resolution] that will not shut down the government. We urge you to take it," Schumer said.

Trump said he wouldn't take it.

"But you said it is effective," Schumer interrupted.

"Let's call a halt to this," Pelosi said, recognizing the meeting was going off the rails. "We come here as the first branch of government. Article I, the legislative branch, she said, referring to the Constitution. "We are coming in good faith to negotiate with you about how we can keep the government open," Pelosi said.

"We are going to keep it open if we have border security. If we don't have border security we aren't going to keep it open," Trump replied.

"You are bragging about what has been done. What we want to do, the same thing that we did last year this year. That is our proposal. If it's good then, it's good now, and it won't shut down the government," Schumer replied.

"Let's debate in private. Okay?" Pelosi said. "Unfortunately, this has spiraled downward."

The meeting was on the president's schedule as being closed to the press, but was opened up to reporters and cameras at the last minute.

"We came in here in good faith. We entered into a discussion in the public view," Pelosi said.

"It's called transparency," Trump said, in reference to the press packed into the Oval Office.

"It's not transparency when we are not sticking to a set of facts. When we want to have a debate with you, we confront them," Pelosi shot back.

The president said he wanted to defend $5 billion in border wall money, but Pelosi chimed in to say that as the new Democratic leader, she is coming to present a different view.

"Elections have consequences, Mr. President," said Schumer.

"And that's why the country is doing so well," Trump retorted.

"One thing I think we can agree on is that we shouldn't shut down the government over a dispute. You want to shut it down, you keep talking about," Schumer said.

"The last time, Chuck, you shut it down," Trump said.

"I don't want to do what you did. Twenty times you called for it, you said 'I will shut down the government if I don't get my wall.' You have said it," Schumer said.

The president said he would "take the mantle" for shutting down the government for the sake of border security.

"But we believe you shouldn't shut it down," Pelosi replied.

After the meeting, White House press secretary Sarah Sanders put out a statement saying that the president, Schumer, and Pelosi had a "constructive meeting," but added, "Major disagreement remains on the issue of border security and transparency."

Pelosi and Schumer said they gave the president two options. "It’s his choice to accept one of those options or shut the government down," the two Democratic leaders said in a short joint statement after the meeting.

In a gaggle with reporters outside the Oval Office, Pelosi said that their meeting showed that "This new Congress will be something different from the Congress we have now.

"We didn't come here to divide. We came here to unify. We extend that hand of friendship to him, that course of action."

http://abc...wall-funding/story?id=59751054


Oh, and I particularly loved this little tidbit:

"Through the whole argument, Vice President Mike Pence sat in a chair next to Trump without uttering a word."

http://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/11/trump-meets-with-pelosi-and-schumer-on-border-wall-and-government-shutdown.html

Beautiful.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Dec 11 13:41:03
i wish they had said 'a wall won't stop drug flow you dumb fuck' & asked him which prototype they went with for the supposed wall for which he claims "a lot of" is already built

and when he claimed he 'won' the Senate, point out it was 11 R to 24 D

he got away w/ a lot of false claims, but nice they got him to admit it'll be his shutdown & they did point out some of the lies (like how he pretends R's are fully on board w/ him)
Paramount
Member
Tue Dec 11 13:57:52
Kindergarden.

Shut it down already.
hood
Member
Tue Dec 11 14:07:30
Who pays border security if the government shuts down?
Rugian
Member
Tue Dec 11 14:15:04
The military keeps functioning during a shutdown. Any wonder why Trump all of a sudden wants a ~$30 billion rise in defense spending?




(Build the wall)
Forwyn
Member
Tue Dec 11 14:17:19
Obama showed us that park security doesn't have to suffer in the event of a shutdown.

All about priorities.
Wrath of Orion
Member
Tue Dec 11 16:20:46
He's such a fucking dumpster fire, lol.
hood
Member
Tue Dec 11 16:36:42
"The military keeps functioning during a shutdown."

The military doesn't secure the border.
obaminated
Member
Tue Dec 11 18:28:41
I imagine we will find a way to use the military to stop caravans of criminals from flooding into our south western states. Should a government shut down occur.
Dukhat
Member
Tue Dec 11 18:47:56
Or mostly women and children and families trying to find a better life.

Not that I think they should stay here. We can pay Mexico to take them on as a better alternative just like Germany pays Turkey to take on refugees.

But cuckservatives have constructive strategies anyways. They think the pittance they pay in taxes actually matter.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Dec 11 18:57:00
Pelosi:
“[The wall] is like a manhood thing with him — as if manhood could ever be associated with him”
hood
Member
Tue Dec 11 18:57:31
"caravans of criminals"

You mean the people who properly apply for political asylum?
Forwyn
Member
Tue Dec 11 20:20:22
I must have missed the orderly queues in between the rock chucking and tear gas.
werewolf dictator
Member
Tue Dec 11 20:25:21
i see you people are calm now

because you seemed to go crazy there for awhile
so what
Member
Thu Dec 13 12:12:48
How is the wall immoral, did Pelosi provide a reason for her claim that it is?
so what
Member
Thu Dec 13 13:10:32
Tue Dec 11 18:57:00
Pelosi:
“[The wall] is like a manhood thing with him — as if manhood could ever be associated with him”


Hmmm...Did Pelosi really say this? That is pretty sexist. Did she apologise for her statement or clarify?

Or is it ok now to make such insulting sexist statements?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Dec 13 13:21:24
anything is acceptable w/ Trump
so what
Member
Thu Dec 13 13:49:44
That is what makes the rabid Trump haters so silly, they are doing the same things they profess are so disgusting and reprehensible… They lack any dignity and integrity.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Dec 13 14:02:44
he's a cancer

also Trump doing it all the time to everyone is different from people doing it only back to Trump
Rugian
Member
Thu Dec 13 14:04:13
When they go low, we go lower.
hood
Member
Thu Dec 13 14:37:15
Considering Trump's dangling balls, we can expect this for "going lower":

"Nancy Pelosi, let me tell you about Nancy Pelosi. She has the most ugly, and I need it, ugly guys, the most ugly and manly feet for a woman."
hood
Member
Thu Dec 13 14:37:56
"I need it,"

Not sure how autocorrect turned mean into need.
obaminated
Member
Thu Dec 13 15:03:52
the difference is trump is calculating when he insults people like pelosi, hillary or schumer. he marginalizes them so the only people who get upset by him insulting pelosi's disgusting feet are pelosi and cucks who watch msnbc. meanwhile when pelosi attacks trump she goes after his dick size in broad terms, thereby effectively pissing off every male who is tired of women walking over men while shouting "down with the patriarchy"

also, it is pretty fucking hilarious that women suddenly want to work once work places got air conditioning. this simple truth is lost on the cucks who genuinely think women in the western world have any reason to bitch and moan about their lots in life.

men literally die to establish western civilization and prosperity, women then bitch and moan about how inconvenient it is for them to have to make dinner and clean the dishes.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Thu Dec 13 16:11:54

LOL

I guess you should know.


"Considering Trump's dangling balls..."

mexicantardnado
Member
Thu Dec 13 16:41:37
duuuuur i hate women duuur i want to duuur control duuur their bodies duuuuur i am duuur latent duuuuur
hood
Member
Thu Dec 13 19:12:53
rod, we have first hand testimony from Ms. Daniels.
Hot Rod
Revved Up
Thu Dec 13 19:38:23

dukbrain - We can pay Mexico to take them on as a better alternative just like Germany pays Turkey to take on refugees.


Why?

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