Utopia Talk / Politics / Trump's charity was a criminal

tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Dec 18 11:35:21 is now being dissolved... ----- “Our petition detailed a shocking pattern of illegality involving the Trump Foundation – including unlawful coordination with the Trump presidential campaign, repeated and willful self-dealing, and much more. This amounted to the Trump Foundation functioning as little more than a checkbook to serve Mr. Trump’s business and political interests. “Today’s stipulation accomplishes a key piece of the relief sought in our lawsuit earlier this year. Under the terms, the Trump Foundation can only dissolve under judicial supervision – and it can only distribute its remaining charitable assets to reputable organizations approved by my office. “This is an important victory for the rule of law, making clear that there is one set of rules for everyone. We’ll continue to move our suit forward to ensure that the Trump Foundation and its directors are held to account for their clear and repeated violations of state and federal law.” ~NY Attorney General Underwood -------------- also of note is how little he personally donated (many years, nothing at all), when typically that's the whole point of a personal charity (Romney was the ONLY donor to his) aside from other abuses, one thing he did was donate money from his 'charity' (other people's money) to other charities to encourage them to hold events at his resorts (which he then cut no discounts on)
hood Member	Tue Dec 18 11:42:25 "one thing he did was donate money from his 'charity' (other people's money) to other charities to encourage them to hold events at his resorts (which he then cut no discounts on)" Pretty sure that's called money laundering.
Paramount Member	Tue Dec 18 11:50:34 So if Trump was running a criminal organization that was laundering money, why isn’t he in jail? Perhaps somone can make a citizen’s arrest on him. If somone sees him – arrest his ass and call the police.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Dec 18 12:18:20 he's the teflon Don... he behaved totally unacceptably all campaign (& continuing til now), he has demonstrated no knowledge ever, he lies constantly, yet some people find him fantastic Sen. Orrin Hatch just said 'i don't care' recently about Trump being implicated in those felonies (luckily, a few days later he retracted his comments & said something appropriate) yet it shouldn't require time to reflect Trump's whole life seems to be one of fraud & lies... perhaps it will begin to crack under the weight
swordtail Anarchist Prime	Tue Dec 18 12:22:51 putin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rugian Member	Tue Dec 18 12:27:13 "also of note is how little he personally donated" $5.5 million, vs outside donations of $9.3 million, of which $5 million came from the McMahons (I guess being bodyslamed by Trump is worth a hefty premium). Trump already tried to effectively dissolve the foundation in 2016, only to be stopped by Cuomo's goons. Cuomo, incidentally, is the same guy who routinely engages in thig-like activity like abusing state resources to try and shut down the NRA, telling conservatives to leave the state, and collecting donations from his own appointees. A guinea piece of trash who's openly at war with Trump managing to find a problem with Trumps foundation is hardly surprising or reputable.
obaminated Member	Tue Dec 18 12:40:26 I fucking hate when Cuomo resorts to thig-like behavior.
Rugian Member	Tue Dec 18 12:44:30 Its an amalgamation of thug and nig.
hood Member	Tue Dec 18 13:01:37 ^ good cover
swordtail Anarchist Prime	Tue Dec 18 13:12:11 "Its an amalgamation of thug and nig." sicilian
Rugian Member	Tue Dec 18 13:20:08 ST, we dont go for that kind of bigotry around here.
so what Member	Tue Dec 18 13:32:16 Well, Trump won the elections because he was not politically correct, because he was not acceptable to the establishment media and politicians. Like his claim that Hillary was corrupt, because he paid her to play for him. And he paid the Clinton foundation from his Trump foundation... Most people who support Trump won't really care, because they already know that Trump is corrupt, like most rich people. They already know that most politicians are corrupt, that the establishment media is corrupt. They support Trump, because they know that he is unacceptable to the establishment. They support him, because Trump is hated by the people they loathe. They also support Trump, because they want a president who says that he will put them, the American people, on the first place, instead of asking them to feel responsible for the needy of the world. And after decades of being lied to by politicians, the media, the establishment, their expectations are low, so it won't take Trump much to fulfill them to keep their support.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Dec 18 14:17:45 "Trump already tried to effectively dissolve the foundation in 2016" there was already numerous reports of the criminal activity by then (in fact, i think basically all of it was out by then... i don't know of anything new since then)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Dec 18 14:34:40 "they already know that Trump is corrupt" i doubt that... his supporters are rabid, and accept all the nonsense that all these investigations are corrupt & all negative media is fake... see HR
so what Member	Wed Dec 19 13:56:29 You don't think that Trump haters are rabid and irrational when it comes to Trump? That none of these investigations are corrupt and biased? That none of the negative media is fake? Not all his supporters are fanatic and as I said, a substantial portion voted for Trump, because they loathe the establishment. They are realistic and know that most of the politicians are corrupt. That corporations are corrupt. That rich people have arrangements to keep them rich and make them richer. It is unrealistic to think that rich people haven't done anything (morally) wrong to become rich, get richer or to stay rich.
hood Member	Wed Dec 19 13:58:36 ^ hilariously thinks people are smart and rational. Proving by example that people are fucking idiots.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Dec 19 15:57:25 if you are still a Trump supporter, there's something wrong with you... even if your main goal was sticking a fork in the eye of the establishment the reason so many 'establishment' hate him is for legitimate reasons... he is wholly unfit for the job... he has studied no issue, he develops his opinions from listening to people on Fox w/ no deeper understanding than 30 secs of talking. He reads no briefings. He seeks no knowledge. He lies more often than he tells the truth. He chooses allies based on who compliments or pays him. He behaves & speaks like a child. He falsely smears every perceived opponent... including undermining faith in our elections (the R primary: claimed rigged; the 2016 election: claimed rigged & massive voter fraud... even after he won; 2018 elections: claimed voter fraud) What is his redeeming quality? What makes him remotely acceptable to be president? that he's manipulated by the adults into abandoning most of what he wants? We've heard about people only presenting him 1 option to make sure he picked the right one. It's ridiculous.
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murder Member	Thu Dec 20 08:01:25 "Trump already tried to effectively dissolve the foundation in 2016, only to be stopped by Cuomo's goons." Yeah, and drug dealers frequently try to flush their drugs when they are being raided.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Dec 20 11:48:03 "Russia, Iran, Syria & many others are not happy about the U.S. leaving, despite what the Fake News says, because now they will have to fight ISIS and others, who they hate, without us. I am building by far the most powerful military in the world. ISIS hits us they are doomed!" good luck defending that... you semi-Trump supporters :p a stream of pure bullshit start to finish that he made-up just to counter criticism he was receiving how is that safe to have as a president? (and toss in making military decisions via tweet -before- consulting anyone... which singularly should be cause for removal)
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