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tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Dec 20 14:23:44
Trump apparently signing a farm bill soon... see the presidential video accompanying it:

http://twi...ump/status/1075846949427908608
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Dec 20 14:25:03
(not a parody account, i checked repeatedly...)
Dukhat
Member
Thu Dec 20 14:30:40
Meh. He's making fun of himself for once. Wasting time on stupid jokes isn't productive.
obaminated
Member
Thu Dec 20 21:02:44
Cuckhat wants Trump to be more productive. Sign more laws!
murder
Member
Thu Dec 20 22:15:12

He sings better that he Presidents ... or businesses.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Dec 20 22:16:42
he runs casinos better than he Presidents
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Dec 21 11:50:38
"I know tech better than anyone"

http://twi...ump/status/1076084489422557184

he has website articles printed out for him as he doesn't know how to use a computer
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Dec 22 14:30:00
"Trump is watching more TV, but the TV is also almost always on even during meetings in Oval Office dining room, where he keeps one ear attuned to what’s happening and stops discussion if he hears his name mentioned."
~ Maggie Haberman (actually highly respected NY Times reporter)

...and consistent w/ numerous accounts of Trump's behavior
Rugian
Member
Sat Dec 22 14:49:56
"highly respected NY Times reporter"

No such thing. Also:

"In October 2016, one month before Donald Trump defeated Hillary Clinton in the U.S. presidential election, a document was released by WikiLeaks that showed the Clinton campaign's use of Haberman to place sympathetic stories in Politico. "[The Clinton campaign] has a very good relationship with Maggie Haberman of Politico over the last year. We have had her tee up stories for us before and have never been disappointed. While we should have a larger conversation in the near future about a broader strategy for reengaging the beat press that covers HRC, for this we think we can achieve our objective and do the most shaping by going to Maggie."[11]"

Wiki
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Dec 22 15:04:56
do you actually doubt the story?

...given how often he tweets in response to what's on the TV at that moment, as if everyone watching the same show he is
Rugian
Member
Sat Dec 22 15:09:38
I'm just pointing out that your hero-worship of everyone who speaks ill of the big guy has a tendency to screw with your objectivity.
Rugian
Member
Sat Dec 22 15:09:38
I'm just pointing out that your hero-worship of everyone who speaks ill of the big guy has a tendency to screw with your objectivity.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Dec 22 17:38:30
almost every post in these threads is a tweet or quote straight from Trump

i need no outside help to know how awful Trump is
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Dec 24 21:57:13
"Are you still a believer in Santa? ...Because at seven it's marginal, right?"

http://www...ast/status/1077375011600678912

why is he allowed to use the phone
swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Mon Dec 24 22:00:54

"why is he allowed to use the phone"


America fuck yeah
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Dec 25 15:27:20
this is the supposed girl he was talking with... & she apparently said yes to the first question, so even worse :p

http://www...76-11e9-a470-87234a04ef7e.html

they have video of the call on speaker from their end... bring on the audio specialists & Mueller
Rugian
Member
Tue Dec 25 15:29:26
"they have video of the call on speaker from their end... bring on the audio specialists & Mueller"

This post would have been amusing had there been any chance whatsoever that you were being sarcastic.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Dec 25 22:04:54
the Mueller part was a joke... and the kids were calling a Santa tracker so seems likely the legit response

if this total moron with 5+ kids doesn't know what to say to them (nor troops, allies, autocrats) he should ask adults and practice first
Paramount
Member
Wed Dec 26 10:16:03
Seen on twitter:


The US President is now in open conflict with the US Congress, the US Federal Reserve, the US Secretary of Defense, China, the EU, the World Trade Organisation and a couple of others. Otherwise it’s OK.

don't forget the Justice Department, FBI, CIA and Intelligence Community.

And reality.

And GM and Harley Davidson.

And his wife.

But the KKK thinks he's a jolly good fellow.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Dec 26 11:20:13
all true... except his wife may be more garbage than people realize, she may knock his hand away as he's disgusting filth, but she still defends him & shares his views when she speaks
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Jan 01 11:20:18
“General” McChrystal got fired like a dog by Obama. Last assignment a total bust. Known for big, dumb mouth. Hillary lover!

~the "president"

---------

Gen. McChrystal recently called Trump dishonest & immmoral (factual assessment)

and

"If we want to be governed by someone we wouldn't do a business deal with because their — their background is so shady, if we're willing to do that, then that's in conflict with who I think we are. And so I think it's necessary at those times to take a stand."

and other accurate maturely-made assessments of the garbage pile
Rugian
Member
Tue Jan 01 14:23:54
McChrystal is a stupid motherfucker who ran his dumb mouth so badly that even Fox News found itself agreeing with Obama in saying "yeah he needs to go" (how does anyone even manage that). Since then he's become a shill for gun control while simultaneously working for a UAE-owned arms company. Oh, and he also wants to bring back the draft.

I like how the Trump presidency has been like one big redemption arc for people who were previously widely acknowledged to be pieces of shit. Well, "redemption" in the eyes of the MSM and never-Trumpers, anyway.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Jan 01 15:09:35
is Trump honest?
Is Trump moral?
would you enter into a business deal with Trump?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Jan 01 15:19:35
and of course Trumps 'rebuttal' sounds like it was written by a child as ALWAYS...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Jan 02 11:38:49
this is from a cabinet meeting i think happening right now

Trump spewing his made-up nonsense talking points about how we'd be at war w/ NK if not for him & walls work, yadda yadda

and... the lil child boy liar has a printed copy of his movie poster on the table...
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dv6_6MOW0AE725e.jpg
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Jan 02 14:06:57
at above... Trump claimed he 'essentially fired' Mattis (a total lie)

that the Soviet Union collapsed because of Afghanistan

that no one in Afghanistan would need a library

that he has no idea where the $2.5 Billion wall funding figure figure came from (hint: Mike Pence, one of his negotiators)

a shotgun blast of other ignorance that will never all be fact-checked
LazyCommunist
Member
Fri Jan 04 03:15:36
So true:
http://www...flect-and-distract/2019/01/02/
“The reason Russia was in Afghanistan was because terrorists were going into Russia. They were right to be there,” he said breaking with the stance taken by past U.S. administrations that the invasion was an illegitimate power play against a neighboring nation.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Jan 05 12:16:44
here's a decent video compilation of what Trump knows better than anyone
http://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1081528992484610048

even if you dismiss this childish narcissist-speak as his way of saying he is informed on a topic, he is NOT... he knows virtually nothing about many of them

'Facebook' & 'Technology' are on the list... whereas if you sat him down at your "computer board"* i doubt he could turn it on much less find Facebook

(*he was amazed at the number of 'computer boards' in a room that Generals once took him too)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Jan 08 11:32:12
Chris Wallace destroyed lying Trump toady Sarah Sanders
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v8PJc10Ozc


and the shitbag-in-chief claimed 'some' former presidents talked to him & told him they wished they'd built the wall... ALL living presidents have since denied this

people won't even find this shocking, but it's RIDICULOUS that we accept a president who casually lies on EVERY topic
swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Thu Jan 10 10:23:01
http://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1083061110264217600
Paramount
Member
Thu Jan 10 14:30:43
Donald Trump Jr. used Instagram Tuesday night to endorse his father's border wall policy, saying the evidence that a wall works is because they protect people from zoo animals.

"You know why you can enjoy a day at the zoo? Because walls work," Trump Jr., 41, wrote in his Instagram story.

http://www...CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=62140507
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Jan 11 11:42:23
find a person in the world who understands Trump's Syria policy


Bolton: 'we're staying til ISIS defeated & Turkey guarantees safety of the Kurds'

Erdogan: "Whacchu talkin' about, Walrus?"

Trump: 'All my varying comments are consistent & match everyone else's comments!'
===

clearly Trump sold out the Kurds when talking to Erdogan then recklessly announcing policy w/o talking to anyone... (granted he was probably unaware of everything, as usual)
Rugian
Member
Fri Jan 11 11:49:45
Tw,

I realize this probably isn't the thread to discuss this, but can you think of ANY sort of withdrawal strategy that wouldn't end with the Kurds being completely screwed?

This was always one of the aspects of Obama's Syrian intervention that was completely nonsensical. We supported the Kurds in their fight against ISIS; at the same time though, Turkey was never going to approve of an independent or autonomous Kurdish presence along its border. "Selling out" the Kurds was basically an inevitability, absent major mission creep and burning Turkey as an ally.
swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Fri Jan 11 12:09:05
" We supported the Kurds in their fight against ISIS "

more like you supported the kurds in their land grabs of syria and iraq and their ethnic cleansing of assyrians and yazidis.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Jan 11 12:12:21
do you feel Trump & his administration are providing a clear & consistent message on Syria? (as Trump claims)

do you think Trump was well-informed of any aspect of Syria when making the decision... via tweet?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Jan 11 12:38:01
i'll assume this was the conversation:

Erdogan: we plan to kill all the terrorists near our border
Trump: ok, sounds great!

...now i'll tweet out this decision i've made entirely based on my ignorant discussion w/ a foreign dictator...
jergul
large member
Sun Jan 13 20:32:54
Ruggy
It makes great sense to support the kurds based on three premises:

1. Defeating terrorists is important
2. Regime change is unimportant.
3. Direct support of the regime is impossible.

Kurds provide boots on the ground to defeat terrorists. Turkey provides leverage to force militarized kurds to submit to central Syrian control.

Failed State averted and terrorist scourge destroyed.

Win!?

The Kurds are not so much screwed as struggling with the consept of reunification with centralized government.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Jan 13 21:15:00
Trump tweets tonight
"Will devastate Turkey economically if they hit Kurds" and said there will be a 20 mile safe zone somehow

so I guess Erdogan has learned how pointless it is to deal with Trump
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Jan 13 21:16:49
in witness intimidation news:

Trump on Fox 'News' said Michael Cohen should be telling investigators about his father-in-law rather than Trump
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Jan 16 21:52:08
in treason news:

we learned in 2017 after a Putin meeting that Trump was trying to convince a NY Times reporter that Russia didn't interfere with off the record comments such as the 'they are so good, it couldn't be them as they wouldn't have gotten caught'

he started making that case publicly, but pretty fucking disgusting he was trying to get the Times to suggest it on their own so no link to him

almost proof he's a traitor if not for the fact that this lump of pure shit would happily sell-out the country to protect his own ego (he didn't want to acknowledge anyone helped him)

so he's either a Russian puppet or just puts himself above the country or both (the latter is definitely true imo, the former seeming to get only more likely over time)
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