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williamthebastard
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Sat Dec 22 02:06:44
So, I met a real right-wing Internet conspiracy troll a while ago, here in France. He’s a 75-year-old homeless and toothless Brit, former Elvis impersonator from Scunthorpe (I kid you not), living in a van in a car park around the corner. The govt took custody of his 2 daughters a few years ago (he must have fathered them in his 60s.) Because of this, he believes the Queen and the UK govt are involved in a conspiracy to kill him and his family, and he accuses them of running an international pedophile ring (where have we heard that one before). He sits almost penniless at McD every day all day with a battered old laptop and runs about 40 facebook, twitter etc accounts disguised amateurishly as news sites where he posts idiotic conspiracies. This homeless, toothless tramp living in a car park has tens of thousands of followers and believes he’s running ”an empire.” Apart from his personal James Bond-esque adventures involving the Queen trying to murder him, he does the usual far-right Brexit/Trump/Qanon mental illness stuff.
Hotmail recently blocked him after spam complaints. He now believes Bill Gates is also in on the conspiracy together with the Queen and the govt to kill him.

I initially tried to be charitable to this, at first glance, seemingly friendly old geezer down on his luck. Bought him some food, took him for a couple of beers, took him to the tax agency to get him registered for basic legal aid, health and social services in France etc.

I eventually got irritated at his blaming all his bad decisions in life on idiotic conspiracies – nothing was his fault, everything was Bill Gates fault, or the govt or the queen or the immigrants etc, etc, so one day I wrecked his idiotic theories. I proved to him that when he said that various Facebook sites representing official human and legal rights NGOs had approved his case, they were fake sites created by him: ”For God’s sake, look! There’s a pic of you as admin! It’s got your email address!” etc.

But you can’t disprove these conspiracy lunatics. If you factually rip apart their bs and show them the pieces, they dont go, ”Fuck, I was wrong” – their heads explode instead.

Since then, he’s threatened me twice in the streets while screaming and ranting, blocking my way in a ridiculously wrong boxing stance he thinks he saw in a Bruce Lee movie; taking photos of me while I was eating at a restaurant. Apparently, I’m now a spy for Bill Gates and the Queen. Eventually, I had to report him to the police. Then I visited him in his van wearing a hoodie and scarf and pushed him up against a wall and threatened him if he ever approached me again. Have only seen him at a distance since then in the last couple of weeks, so hopefully he’s found someone else.

But these trumpian brexiteer conspiracists, I tell ya…they’re the mentally ill dregs of the West.
Paramount
Member
Sat Dec 22 03:44:41
It sounds like a sad case. He believes that the government wronged him when they took his daughters away from him. And he can’t get over it. And he is apparently not living in the squirrel wheel like all the rest of us are doing. So to him, everyone in the squirrel wheel is a part of what wronged him. It’s basically him against the world. The government, the Queen, Bill Gates, NGO’s, you. You are all trying to kill him.

Has he said anything about Elvis, though? What is his feelings about Elvis today? Elvis Presley may be the only one who he still trusts, since Elvis comes from a time before the govt took hia daughters.

Maybe you should try to dress up like an Elvis Presley impersonator yourself and walk past him and see how he reacts. Do you have a guitarr? If he sees Elvis then maybe he will remember the good old times and how good everything was when he too lived in the squirrel wheel. Or you could just dress like Elvis to troll him, for fun. Or buy one of those Donald Trump masks and sing an Elvis song in front of him. He will wonder what the hell is going on.
Dukhat
Member
Sat Dec 22 03:51:30
The unifying trait of modern conservatism is helplessness. They act so macho but it's all a very shallow veneer to hide their underlying weakness.

They don't take charge of their lives and develop better habits, relationships, and skills. They blame other people and look for a bogeyman.

Evidence: every cuckservative on this board.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Sat Dec 22 04:52:39
And the people who blame all their problems on patriarchy and/or capitalism are the sane and educated elite of the west.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdote
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inference
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias


McKobb
Member
Sat Dec 22 05:56:46
The earth is a flat disc and was made in seven days!
Rugian
Member
Sat Dec 22 06:13:17
1. Got a link to his site? I've been looking for a new source of news lately.

2. What's "Qanon?"

3. What kind of deluded fool tries to help the homeless? If a person is out on the street, the overwhelming odds are that it's due to mental illness. You can't help them, you naive boy.
Seb
Member
Sat Dec 22 09:13:41
So, an alternative perspective here is WtB befriended a vulnerable old man with mental health issues, then, when the guy was opening up to him and started to think of WtB as a friend, scorned and humiliated him; and then accosted and threatened him at his home.

Dude, if you are coming here thinking this makes you look good or superior you are very wrong. You knew what you were getting into when you tried to help him out, and you were very stupid to challenge his world view like that. Leave that to professionals. If you are going to play the good Samaritan you need to do it wholeheartedly, not on your own terms.
murder
Member
Sat Dec 22 10:34:05

You can't reason with crazy or stupid.



murder
Member
Sat Dec 22 10:35:01

"2. What's "Qanon?""

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon

Williamthebastard
Member
Sat Jan 05 05:55:23
Stinking little fuck just tried to strangle me from behind at McD. Slammed him in the face twice, might have broken his nose. He fell over then ran off. Waiting for the cops. Sending this ungrateful little brexit/trumpeteer fuck to prison ;)
McKobb
Member
Sat Jan 05 06:00:51
fake news
Williamthebastard
Member
Sat Jan 05 06:01:07
Remember, far-right ideology is a cultural psychosis that attracts the violent and psychologically unwell
Seb
Member
Sat Jan 05 06:52:07
WtB:

Him attacking you has nothing to do with Fox etc. They prey on these people to exploit thrm for economic gain, and when you decided to "educate" him on his errors, so did you for your own sense of well being.

You knew he was psychologically disordered, you antagonised him, and you set this path in motion.

You might feel better here to believe this mentally unwell individual represents your political enemies, but he could just as well adopted a left-wing brand of wingnuttery (chemtrails, 9/11 false flag etc.) in his disordered state.

Titling at windmills because they might be giants.
Sam Adams
Member
Sat Jan 05 09:48:10
The homeless should be euthenized. For their own good, and that of society. Its the humane thing to do.
Dukhat
Member
Sat Jan 05 11:56:59
The far-right ideology latches itself onto helplessness, ignorance, and toxic masculinity.

That's why it's core base of supporters is uneducated, unsuccessful white guys.

You don't need an education to be successful but you do need fundamental things about your character to make money like changing your habits and incorporating information from experts and at least occasionally having empathy for those around you.

All these things contribute to success and defeat helplessness and lets you move forward in life.

Avoiding these basic things leaves you stagnant and a failure. They leave you looking for some kind of strawman to blame your own failures for. And people at their base are tribalistic, selfish creatures. Usually that strawman is a member of an outgroup such as immigrants or minorities or even women.
Dukhat
Member
Sat Jan 05 11:57:12
its*
OsamaIsDaWorstPresid
Member
Sat Jan 05 13:10:11
"Eventually, I had to report him to the police. Then I visited him in his van wearing a hoodie and scarf and pushed him up against a wall and threatened him if he ever approached me again."

"Stinking little fuck just tried to strangle me from behind at McD"

wondar wot da polise wuld say if thay knew u traked him down and entared hiz trailer witout permison and thretinid him b4 he atked u
OsamaIsDaWorstPresid
Member
Sat Jan 05 14:27:02
i remembar wen odefish told us bout da time he got in2 a fist fite ovar a cigarete so thretenin homelse ppl in a hoodie than runin 2 da polise cryin dusint sem out of charactar
obaminated
Member
Sat Jan 05 14:39:23
Beating up a 75 year old man isnt something to brag about, fagfish.
OsamaIsDaWorstPresid
Member
Sat Jan 05 15:52:23
oefish wants 2 b a gansta beetin up old ppl in a hoodie rofl he prolie imagines himsalf az anthonie from da sopranos

all da disablid and old ladies r gona pay him protecton monie
Paramount
Member
Sat Jan 05 16:00:22
I wonder what Hot Obaminated Rod would do if a homeless man would try to strangle him.
obaminated
Member
Sat Jan 05 16:37:58
I dunno. That's never happened to me. But I probably wouldn't gloat about it on UP.
McKobb
Member
Sat Jan 05 17:00:58
Where is TrumpisDaBestesPresid?
OsamaIsDaWorstPresid
Member
Sat Jan 05 21:34:00
acont creton haz ben brokin 4 leik 6 yeers
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