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TJ
Member
Thu Dec 27 16:23:14
Hot Rod passed away sometime during the evening of the 22nd or early morning 23rd. His nephew called me (not a joke or prank) because I'd left a message on HR's answering machine.

When I get the obituary I'll post. Probably tomorrow or Saturday.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Dec 27 16:28:16
RIP
Forwyn
Member
Thu Dec 27 17:22:47
RIP.

Thanks for letting us know, TJ.
Pillz
Member
Thu Dec 27 17:38:29
Took him long enough.
patom
Member
Thu Dec 27 18:13:35
RIP Hot Rod. Hope you get your bike tour done wherever you are now.

Thanks TJ :(

Dukhat
Member
Thu Dec 27 18:52:13
RIP
Seb
Member
Thu Dec 27 18:53:03
RIP
Jesse Malcolm Barack
Member
Thu Dec 27 20:11:58
Rods last thoughts were him wondering where all the UP dudes went

http://www...hread=83826&time=1545842115656

We all knew Rod wouldn't survive Trump's impeachment anyways

Can WTB cry for real this time or is 'the defender' or 'the guardian' going to come along to defend donald trump?
Cherub Cow
Member
Thu Dec 27 20:38:23
aux dieux
hood
Member
Thu Dec 27 20:57:52
Could it be? A christmas miracle?

FYI my alibi checks out.
swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Thu Dec 27 21:06:59
lol
Pillz
Member
Thu Dec 27 21:48:52
Which Nazi mod deleted my post?

Hot Rod was a piece of shit he should have died years ago
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Dec 27 21:53:23
he put his faith in the wrong news sources, ones that should be ashamed of themselves

let the hate go
obaminated
Member
Thu Dec 27 22:08:00
Bummer. RIP.
smart dude
Member
Thu Dec 27 22:21:40
http://www...hread?id=politics&thread=28528
kargen
Member
Thu Dec 27 23:08:35
I deleted a couple of posts. I figure we should be semi-civil for at least a day then you can go back to being a douche.
jergul
large member
Thu Dec 27 23:37:25
Pillz
Feel free to create a "the mods are fascist" thread.

Though honestly, I think HR would rather this thread reached 100, than everyone was civil and it reaching 55 posts.

RIP.
smart dude
Member
Thu Dec 27 23:38:39
Kargen, I disagree. See the link I posted. Hot Rod already got a RIP thread. Why the fuck does he get two?
kargen
Member
Fri Dec 28 00:06:54
Like I said I thought at least one day of not being complete dicks would be appropriate. By the time I log on next the one day will have passed so have at it I suppose.

And next time I log in I will undelete what I deleted.
obaminated
Member
Fri Dec 28 00:26:34
eh, it is just their, admittedly immature, way of dealing with someone dying.

funny thing, i never really believed HR was some 70 year old man, it always seemed too implausible and after the death fake out i was certain HR was some immature 20 something with a lot of teenage angst. in a way this must be how a lot of people felt when they read about Houdini's death, cause he wasn't some immortal magician, he was just some con artist guy who accidentally killed himself.

but really, i think there isn't any reason to actually feel negatively about him. or any of you, really. HR was just some dude on a forum who really wasn't that bright, hey congrats guys, you spent literally years of your life arguing with a legit senile old man. that is something to actually feel negatively about. like, you guys legit wasted hours of your life arguing with a literally feeble minded old man who had nothing else going on in his life ... for years... for like a decade and a half.

Okay, after that, I gotta say, I think HR got the better of a lot of people. Simply because he was always too dumb to realize he was wrong, thereby avoiding the embarrassment.
hood
Member
Fri Dec 28 02:28:07
"eh, it is just their, admittedly immature, way of dealing with someone dying."

This implies dealing with it is necessary. People don't really deal with things that they don't care about or are inconsequential to them.
Paramount
Member
Fri Dec 28 03:12:50
How big is the chance that he dies on the same day, twice?

But then, I read a week or two ago that it is more likely that you die during christmas because of all the stress. Maybe Hot Rod was stressed about all the things regarding Trump. So in the end it looks like that maybe Trump killed Hot Rod.

RIP.
Paramount
Member
Fri Dec 28 03:26:44
His three favorite things must have stressed him out and killed him. Christmas, Trump, we.
Average Ameriacn
Member
Fri Dec 28 03:54:44
RIP American patriot!

Too bad he couldn't live long enough to vote a second time for Trump.

yankeessuck123
Member
Fri Dec 28 03:55:01
RIP
patom
Member
Fri Dec 28 04:53:40
Obaminated two posters here have met with Hot Rod, TJ and Fred. Therefore I believe he was as old as he claimed. I think he just turned 80 per a recent thread.

As far as I know, this makes me the oldest, not the maturest poster here at 75.
Dukhat
Member
Fri Dec 28 08:10:24
Fred was also involved in confirming Hot Rod was "dead" when HR faked his death so taking that with a grain of salt ...
CrownRoyal
Member
Fri Dec 28 09:00:41
rest in peace, bud.
CrownRoyal
Member
Fri Dec 28 09:04:11
I wanted to reply to the people who doubt Rod's passing, that there is no way that he can fake his death twice. How utterly shameless would that be? But who am I kidding, of course Rod is capable of doing it, my friend had zero shame.
Cthulhu
Tentacle Rapist
Fri Dec 28 09:44:42
RIP. At least you lived long enough to witness the best POTUS in history!
Paramount
Member
Fri Dec 28 10:31:36
Maybe Hot Rod went to another forum because there are very few people posting here. There's nothing here to be "The Guardian" about anymore. Hot Rod was basically sitting here alone all dayz and waiting for someone to post anything bad about Trump or Israel so he could defend them. In his last thread he was wondering where everyone are. So now whoever his boss is probably told him that it is okay for him to leave this forum because maybe he is more useful elsewhere.
chuck
Member
Fri Dec 28 11:51:08
Well, that's the most unexpected expected thing of 2018. Or maybe the most expected unexpected thing.

"Where Did Everyone Go?" is a hell of a last thread to leave.
TJ
Member
Fri Dec 28 12:39:42
Tom:

I never met Hot Rod in person, but I've talked with him over the phone 6 or 7 times. Three of those calls were to his hospital room when he was having serious health issues.

Greg, the nephew who returned my call, is the son of HR's brother and over seeing final affairs. He is the nearest in relationship of surviving family members.

If Greg hadn't returned my call of concern left on HR's answering machine this thread wouldn't exist. I asked if I could post HR's obit in Utopia and he approved following with a the statement: "Clark immensely enjoyed Utopia."

Go figure!
Cold Rod
Member
Fri Dec 28 13:19:07
If this is indeed fake, I will make it my personal mission to troll him to his death.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Dec 28 13:22:29
i would not recommend helping family members find this place :p

...that would be true of anyone
TJ
Member
Fri Dec 28 14:32:58
TW:

I didn't mention Utopia by name simply asking to post the obit on a message board where he had posted for years. He responded with "is that Utopia Politics?" following up with "Clark immensely enjoyed that place". He wouldn't need help in finding if he was inclined to do so. The conversation lead me to believe he was mostly interested in completing a responsibility he had been fated. Consequences..., still waiting for the KC Star published obituary.
obaminated
Member
Fri Dec 28 15:23:48
Comforting to know the old man enjoyed this place.
jergul
large member
Fri Dec 28 15:54:20
Most of us have relationships with HR dating back to the last millenium. Which is not a bad run in so far as associations go.
patom
Member
Fri Dec 28 18:10:40
I was thinking today that I started posting here when I went to work at the jail back in 2002. I did it mainly to help me learn to type. I do alright typing now and don't have to look at the key board. Have no idea how many words a min. I can do and don't really care.
patom
Member
Fri Dec 28 18:12:18
TJ, if you can find out what funeral home he is being buried through people on here can post their memories of Hot Rod. Hopefully maintaining a little respect.
Pillz
Member
Fri Dec 28 18:17:02
Words per minute is sort of a useless metric. You'll almost never find yourself pressed for time copying something verbatim or free writing anything.

UP also did not exist in the last millennium, pretty sure it launched in 2001.

Jergul confirmed for having known hot rod since before UP?
The UP Archivist
Member
Fri Dec 28 18:39:22
The forums began in 1999, it gained more traction and popularity in 2000.
The UP Archivist
Member
Fri Dec 28 18:40:08
I meant to add when it was acquired by swirve games in 2000
Pillz
Member
Fri Dec 28 18:48:05
UP wasn't one of the original forums and there was no 'purchase' by swirve games... A transfer maybe. I feel like mehul launched under echelon or something first.
obaminated
Member
Fri Dec 28 18:50:42
WPM was just a metric to show that you knew how to use a keyboard. But, obviously 20 years ago people didn't really understand how much technology would change and that using a keyboard would become less of a "skill" and more of a "if you live in the western world and dont know how to use a keyboard then you probably can't read or write in general".
TJ
Member
Fri Dec 28 18:56:30
http://archive.li/z7ifF
The UP Archivist
Member
Fri Dec 28 19:16:49
"UP wasn't one of the original forums and there was no 'purchase' by swirve games... A transfer maybe"

No purchase, name change, I was thinking Jolt acquisition which was later. But politics was one of the many forums that existed.
patom
Member
Fri Dec 28 21:03:13
Words per minute was something that my mother said often when trying to get my brother and I to type back in the 50's, on a type writer made in the 30's.

I needed to learn to type and learn fast when I went to work at the jail and did my stint in the control room. We had to log all movements and incidents as part of the duties in the control room. Hell I was 58 when Aspire talked us into getting a computer. Had never learned how to type and had really no need to prior to working at the jail.

Any how this site helped me because Aspire didn't teach me how to copy and paste for a couple of years and any article I posted I did by typing it myself.

How many of you can still write long hand?
Seb
Member
Fri Dec 28 21:06:18
The forums are surely older than 1999. Pretty sure I was posting here in 1997.
hood
Member
Fri Dec 28 21:27:38
"How many of you can still write long hand?"

What kind of dumb question is that? Asking how readable our handwriting is, however...
patom
Member
Fri Dec 28 21:34:01
Readable is probably the better question.
obaminated
Member
Fri Dec 28 22:22:48
Incomprehensible at best. Misunderstood as a declaration of war at worst.
Pillz
Member
Fri Dec 28 22:36:28
Nobody but me can read it.

This makes finals a toss up for me.
Pillz
Member
Fri Dec 28 22:37:34
Also since Utopia beta launched in 1998 that'd be impossible Seb.
Pillz
Member
Fri Dec 28 22:41:55
I had a teacher fail me on a math exam once because they thought my 4s were 9s.

How she couldn't figure out that every digit that should have read 4 just coincidently was a 9 I still don't know.

The shit they try to pull on essay questions, Jesus
Pillz
Member
Fri Dec 28 22:44:10
And why kind of teacher doesn't deduct makes for errors in Latin or Greek but does for English, in a class that's about Latin and Greek terminology?

Not that she could read it at all but what a stupid policy. Why even teach the subject if you're not going to care for the details.
Snuke
Member
Fri Dec 28 23:37:48
Extremely saddening.

Huge loss to the forum.

Rest we;;.
kargen
Member
Fri Dec 28 23:39:36
The political forums were originally started because people were discussing the white house blow job in the general forums upsetting the timid.
Seb
Member
Sat Dec 29 00:02:25
Pillz:

Maybe 98 then? I definitely two years before I left school (2000) and when I joined I felt it had been going on longer.
Seb
Member
Sat Dec 29 00:04:04
Is it possible your date for the beta launch is wrong?
obaminated
Member
Sat Dec 29 00:26:49
i pour one out for my homie, HR, who was the glue that kept this gang of misfits together. He was not the clown we deserved, but he was the clown we needed.
kargen
Member
Sat Dec 29 00:59:10
"Utopia came online in January 1999 after a series of betas, referred to by players as "First Beta," "Long Beta," and "Short Beta." Game creator Mehul Patel was involved in the BBS-based gaming movement, and authored the BBS games Barren Realms Elite and Solar Realms Elite prior to moving to the web with Earth: 2025 an online multiplayer game.

Utopia was originally created under the company Solaria Games, which had its roots as early as 1996. In 1999 Solaria Games was renamed to Echelon Entertainment, then renamed in July 2000 to Swirve.Com."

The political forums was probably created somewhere in that timeline. I think when it became Swirve we had to leave because Swirve didn't like bad words?
obaminated
Member
Sat Dec 29 01:27:53
lol, i barely remember the actual game.

i recall i always joined guilds or clans or kingdoms that had like 50% participation rate.


i have no idea how i found this place.... almost like a dream... i have no memory of how it started...
Dukhat
Member
Sat Dec 29 02:30:33
Forum basically dies with Hot Rod anyways. Nobody really posts anything. It was mainly Hot Rod and then various shit posts by everybody else.
Paramount
Member
Sat Dec 29 02:37:51
I had no idea that Mehul also made a Harry Potter RPG.
jergul
large member
Sat Dec 29 08:25:37
TJ
You may want to check now if you wish to do the honours.
chuck
Member
Sat Dec 29 08:25:48
Kargen's timeline seems right to me, but I was an Earther, not a Utopia player.

Found Earth: 2025 in 1997. The Earth boards existed then.

> I had no idea that Mehul also made a Harry Potter RPG.

He probably didn't. He did let you set up communities that used the Earth: 2025 forums look and feel which he also hosted though, so some people probably set one up for Harry Potter RPGing.

So instead of our current iteration that's written from scratch in a different language and hosted by TC, back then someone could have set up an offshoot that actually used the same board tech and was hosted by Mehul. It wouldn't have been linked from the Echelon pages themselves, but anybody who had the link to, say, http://boards.eesite.com/board.cgi?boardset=utopiaforums could participate in that alt Utopia forum with you.
chuck
Member
Sat Dec 29 08:26:43
Oh also probably don't actually click that link.
TJ
Member
Sat Dec 29 09:05:15
http://www...x?page=lifestory&pid=191112817

Hrothgar
Member
Sat Dec 29 09:06:06
RIP - again - Hot Rod. I swear if this is a faked death again...

But for now, honestly will miss the old guy.

Fox News has lost a very commited viewer.
TJ
Member
Sat Dec 29 09:34:10
I don't do fake deaths. If you haven't noticed there isn't a single post made by me in the faked dead link posted by smart dude.

Time is the ultimate decider.

R.I.P. old timer.
patom
Member
Sat Dec 29 10:00:25
RIP Clark, sorry we never got to meet you on the road trip you wanted to make. Maybe in another life or time.
Pillz
Member
Sat Dec 29 10:16:46
No Seb, it is not possible. Betas began in 98
obaminated
Member
Sat Dec 29 10:18:53
Jesus christ. Your whole life boiled down to 3 sentences. Fucking hell
Repel
Member
Sat Dec 29 10:30:46
RIP, time will catch us all in the end.
Seb
Member
Sat Dec 29 11:00:22
Kargens timeline looks right to me.

The first game of utopia I played was at its very latest in 1998, but I'm pretty sure would have been the last quarter of 1997 and by then there were established alliances like the Armageddon Alliance.
TJ
Member
Sat Dec 29 11:17:29
Private service not published.

I just got a call as well as an email.

Dear TJ,

We’re sorry, but we were unable to determine a delivery address for your recent sympathy flowers order for Clark Johnson and your order has been cancelled. Your credit card has not been charged.

We deeply apologize for any inconvenience this cancellation might cause.

If you have a delivery address, we invite you to place a new order by visiting our sympathy store.

Again, our most sincere apologies. Please let us know if you have any additional questions, or if we can be of further assistance in helping you reorder flowers.

Kind regards,

Teresa
Support and Solutions Specialist
Legacy.com


My contacts are exhausted.

Paramount
Member
Sat Dec 29 11:35:20
Clark C Johnson

CURRENT ADDRESS
1400 N Woodlawn St Apt 2f
Wichita KS 67208-2452

http://www...k-C-Johnson/Wichita-KS/bq32fuv
jergul
large member
Sat Dec 29 11:47:19
He will be remembered here for a long time. That is something.
Paramount
Member
Sat Dec 29 11:57:16
There is another Clark C Johnson living almost next to Hot Rod. But this Clark C Johnson I'm linking to has a relative named Greg. So it has to be Hot Rod's address?

I was trying to google a photo of Clark Johnson also, but I can't find any.
Paramount
Member
Sat Dec 29 12:10:12
Do they send the flowers to his relatives, or to the funeral?

I guess there is no point in sending flowers to his home address though, since he doesn't live there anymore, right?

Maybe you can contact Greg (see link above) and ask him where to send flowers.
TJ
Member
Sat Dec 29 12:13:06
Clark's middle initial was D.

His address was 4020 Mill Street Apt 404.

I left another message on his answering machine, which is still working. If I'm lucky Greg may check it again and return a call. My detective work is done.
The Children
Member
Sat Dec 29 12:23:26
is this shit real. we have seen dozens of these posts in da past.


patom
Member
Sat Dec 29 14:15:39
We don't even have the funeral home that is handling the service. All it said was that there will be a graveside service.

Usually there is something that family or acquaintances can leave memories or thought that the family can archive in memory of the deceased. But if we don't know who is handling the services we can only post our thoughts here.
TJ
Member
Sat Dec 29 14:28:43
I've contacted the cemetery in the Obit. They wouldn't provide me with a funeral home number handling the service, but said they would have them contact me. It is a wait and see at this point.
patom
Member
Sat Dec 29 15:11:14
Thanks TJ. I have a feeling that we here were a big part of Hot Rods life over the last 10 or so years.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Dec 29 15:17:56
<Trump>
Many people are saying he was a highly respected poster... and they say it very strongly, believe me
</Trump>
smart dude
Member
Sat Dec 29 15:30:37
Clark Johnson Clark Johnson, 80, of KCMO died Dec. 23, 2018 at home. He was a collector and loved the USA. He will be missed. Survived by his nephew Greg Johnson and family. Private service at Elmwood Cemetery.

from Kansas City Star
Daemon
Member
Sat Dec 29 17:15:55
So it's true this time...

RIP
TJ
Member
Sat Dec 29 17:54:32
The crematorium and Greg returned my calls.

Stonegate Crematorium
1505 Brookhart Dr.
Harrisionville Missouri 64701

For anyone with interest.
The address above will care for any tributes sent and would see that Clark's remaining family received.

Aside from his nephews family Clark has been alone for the past decade. It seems obvious to me that Utopia was his life stream.
TJ
Member
Sat Dec 29 18:16:45
*Harrisonville
Pillz
Member
Sat Dec 29 18:28:43
Lul
Jesse Malcolm Barack
Member
Sat Dec 29 19:00:44
So is that where we send the life sized statue of john wayne gacey in a clown costume to watch over rods grave?
Jesse Malcolm Barack
Member
Sat Dec 29 19:02:14
"patom
Member Sat Dec 29 15:11:14
Thanks TJ. I have a feeling that we here were a big part of Hot Rods life over the last 10 or so years."

Dude the forum was his life. He would just sit there for 10 years reloading the page waiting for someone to post.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Dec 29 21:57:10
he also watched TV & movies
and was a collector of something
Memory Lane
Member
Sat Dec 29 22:21:05
I remember hot rod faking his death before. I also remember hot rod was a shill of a person. I also remember that hot rod expressed he wasn't close to much family due to a falling out that predated this participation on Utopia.

I drink and I remember things.
obaminated
Member
Sat Dec 29 22:33:31
you also embarrassingly steal a joke from GoT.
Memory Lane
Member
Sat Dec 29 22:38:04
I also remember MT still being utterly stupid.

I drink and I remember things.
obaminated
Member
Sat Dec 29 22:51:05
No one is impressed when unoriginal people attempt to piggy back off the humor of original people.
Memory Lane
Member
Sat Dec 29 22:52:57
I remember MT still remaining utterly stupid.

I drink and I remember things.
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