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McKobb
Member
Sun Dec 30 01:56:46
Give 'me hell! And rest in peace...
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Sun Dec 30 02:26:37
You now when he "died" the first time, I asked fred what his name was, he said "Clark". Then when it turned out it was a lie I thought the name was also a lie, but it wasn't..

Also the first time he died it was also around Christmas.

Good night sweet Hot Rod.

:,(
chuck
Member
Sun Dec 30 03:52:11
I mean there's really no benefit to living (in this case, don't worry Incel Upers). I'd probably have fallen for the first version of this. Hot Rod is either really dead or burning his very last bridge. He dead.
chuck
Member
Sun Dec 30 03:53:39
Five-post. C'mon TC, what would your work say if you "lost the source?"
The Children
Member
Sun Dec 30 04:57:10
RIP man. U will be missed around here.

Seems there is no escapin time. it gets 2 us all.

Average Ameriacn
Member
Sun Dec 30 05:28:07
patom
Member
Sun Dec 30 07:38:56
I'm thinking the best tribute we can give him would be to make this a 200+ post.
patom
Member
Sun Dec 30 07:58:43
Stonegate Crematorium
1505 Brookhart Dr.
Harrisonville Missouri 64701

It would be sort of nice to send these final threads about Clark to his nephew.

Not sure how that can be done as I'm still not very good at communicating. Maybe one of you tech guys could accomplish that.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Sun Dec 30 08:43:51
He was a stubborn old fart whose antics are the stuff of UP legend. He will be dearly missed and UP will never be the same without him. May his soul never find peace and his spirit haunt every democrat until the end of time.
hood
Member
Sun Dec 30 09:26:18
Y'all are bitches. Rod is gone and the world got better. People dying is no reason to forget these truths.
Paramount
Member
Sun Dec 30 09:44:47
Maybe we could add Hot Rod’s name to our RIP banner here above?

RIP Never forget:
Swirve
Utopia
Hot Rod

...and then... as more of us dies off, we add more names to banner.
Daemon
Member
Sun Dec 30 10:00:35
"It would be sort of nice to send these final threads about Clark to his nephew. "

I'm not sure if this is a good idea. This forum is a little bit "special".
jergul
large member
Sun Dec 30 10:14:25
Perhaps TJ could just inform that his passing was not missed if appropriate?

Hood
Really? He was an old, isolated man, semi-confined to his residence. That odd votes he cast for repugnant candidates is not a high impact "omg the world just got worse".

Without him, I would have never known Rand had a giant vagina.
Pillz
Member
Sun Dec 30 10:15:54
The original banner file is on a 20 year old hard drive buried in a closest somewhere.

Unfortunately even if I wanted to I couldn't update it.

Not that I would, mountme.
Dukhat
Member
Sun Dec 30 10:32:43
He was a senile old man who literally had no positive legacy on the world. No wife, no kids, no accomplishments, nothing. Even at the end, all he did was watch Fox News and shitpost instead of trying to make up for a misspent life.

He wasn't as outright mean as a poster as some of the cuckservatives on this board. That's a piss-poor standard though.

May he RIP; but Hot Rod is a valuable lesson to people with open eyes and open minds. Make the most of your life or die forgotten.
TJ
Member
Sun Dec 30 11:23:04
Tom:

I could easily accomplish with reasonable editing, but won't. The big man is already in an Urn waiting for his final resting place. Hot Rod was one of the most cantankerous individuals I've come across in my adult life and expertly triggered responses. Most in this niche will miss the opportunity to attack his embedded character. He is due a restful ending.

Historic Elmwood cemetery is the oldest in KCMO.
The Children
Member
Sun Dec 30 11:28:25
he is already in an urn?

thats fast...
well, RIP oldtimer.
smart dude
Member
Sun Dec 30 11:48:14
He was a piece of shit.
Cold Rod
Member
Sun Dec 30 12:36:52
Hot Rod was a terrible human being.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Dec 30 12:43:21
he was a better man than the current president of the USA
werewolf dictator
Member
Sun Dec 30 13:51:29
in age of fake news and fake people and fake metaphysics..

"Do not count a human dead until you've seen his body. And even then you can make a mistake."
McKobb
Member
Sun Dec 30 14:46:09
I knew you wanted to check out Hot Rod's body.
hood
Member
Sun Dec 30 15:49:32
^ Putin's fluffer is into silver porn? Not surprised.
patom
Member
Sun Dec 30 22:02:06
Hot Rod was cantankerous for sure. Maybe that was his mark on us at least. Got some of our blood riled at times. I'm thinking he did that on purpose and just for kicks.

In any case he elicited responses, good, bad or indifferent from most of us. In his own way he accomplished that in his lifetime.
TJ
Member
Sun Dec 30 22:12:59
Tom:
I sent you a message.
smart dude
Member
Sun Dec 30 22:15:02
^ No.

He was just a fucking old moron. No reason to glorify or romanticize it. "He elicited responses." Pretty sad legacy.
obaminated
Member
Sun Dec 30 22:45:42
you are a pathetic person.
smart dude
Member
Sun Dec 30 22:52:50
Durrrrrrrr
obaminated
Member
Mon Dec 31 00:14:25
someone died and your reaction is to flail for attention. you are pathetic and sad and i should probably refrain from insulting you cause you are undoubtedly living a lousy life... but i am drunk and dont care. you are pathetic.
Cherub Cow
Member
Mon Dec 31 00:22:24
Reading through this thread and the other ( http://www...hread=83858&time=1546145577719 ), it really seems like we're all hurting in the same way from this loss, but many just can't find the words. This should help:

"Stop all the clocks, cut off the telephone.
Prevent the dog from barking with a juicy bone,
Silence the pianos and with muffled drum
Bring out the coffin, let the mourners come.

Let aeroplanes circle moaning overhead
Scribbling in the sky the message 'He is Dead,'
Put crêpe bows round the white necks of the public doves,
Let the traffic policemen wear black cotton gloves.

He was my North, my South, my East and West,
My working week and my Sunday rest
My noon, my midnight, my talk, my song;
I thought that love would last forever, I was wrong.

The stars are not wanted now; put out every one,
Pack up the moon and dismantle the sun.
Pour away the ocean and sweep up the wood;
For nothing now can ever come to any good."
hood
Member
Mon Dec 31 00:25:29
"flail for attention"

?

You're right, you're drunk. Drunk doesn't combine well with stupid.
obaminated
Member
Mon Dec 31 00:35:54
fuck you hood, why dont you go and have some weird fantasy about betraying humanity with some alien race?
hood
Member
Mon Dec 31 00:49:35
talk about flailing for attention.
kargen
Member
Mon Dec 31 01:59:23
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7g3RuoreRc
McKobb
Member
Mon Dec 31 02:17:12
He was an old man on the fringe that found community in this fucked up place.
Snuke
Member
Mon Dec 31 02:23:26
Rest in Peace Hot Rod.

You will be missed.

This one hurts.0
patom
Member
Mon Dec 31 06:45:56
TJ where did you send the message to?
TJ
Member
Mon Dec 31 10:25:52
Check messages Tom.
patom
Member
Mon Dec 31 11:34:38
TJ, I honestly don't know how to access messages in this forum. Didn't even know there was such a thing.
patom
Member
Mon Dec 31 11:35:21
I sent you an email.
TJ
Member
Mon Dec 31 12:04:34
Replied Tom.
CrownRoyal
Member
Mon Dec 31 12:35:15
Rod was the prolific poster on both old and new UP. I wanted to post something positive about Rod, in memoriam, so this was the obvious one, quality of his posts aside.
CrownRoyal
Member
Mon Dec 31 12:37:12
“Without him, I would have never known Rand had a giant vagina.”

Lol jergul, how did we come up with that one, I tried to remember in what context did that thing originate, but I’m drawing a blank
CHINA RULZ USA SUCKS
Member
Mon Dec 31 12:42:04
HOTY ROTY OWNED ODNWD ODNW ODNWD PWND ODNW
Hrothgar
Member
Mon Dec 31 13:19:09
"May he RIP; but Hot Rod is a valuable lesson to people with open eyes and open minds. Make the most of your life or die forgotten."

We will all be forgotten eventually. One can't really know what causes one to live the life they way they do unless you saw what they saw, did what they did.

PS - here is an obit for him. Not much there as far as getting to know about him any better.

https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/name/clark-johnson-obituary?pid=191112817
Hot Stick
Member
Mon Dec 31 14:37:40
FUCKING OBAMACARE
jergul
large member
Mon Dec 31 14:58:40
CR
Free association. But we were discussing Rand's biography.
patom
Member
Mon Dec 31 16:06:30
Thanks Hrothgar, that site at least had a guest book that you could leave a few words on.
McKobb
Member
Mon Dec 31 22:39:37
This makes three utopians dead. Which one of you bastards are next? Unusual death rate here.
Dukhat
Member
Mon Dec 31 23:53:38
Hot Rod lasted a long time. 80 is a very ripe age for a man with literally nothing to live for. Usually those people croak right away.
hood
Member
Tue Jan 01 00:36:10
Rugian's liver might be next.
jergul
large member
Tue Jan 01 05:34:31
Ruggy's liver has many things to live for.
RugianLovesTheCock
Member
Tue Jan 01 06:19:19
Not long for him since he contracted aids from loving the cock waaaaaay too much.
s.t.a.l.k.e.r.
Member
Tue Jan 01 06:42:05
Hot Rod's final post on FB was about "Socialism is a slavery of all to all."
s.t.a.l.k.e.r.
Member
Tue Jan 01 06:46:44
The accomplishments of an 80 year old decrepit man.

"I can't believe I did it, but I did.
I got out of my chair, the easy part, and crawled under a table and hooked up a new set of speakers for my computer that I got the other day.
Then I untangled the speakers that I have had for 33 years.
Then came the hard part. Getting back into my wheelchair. Damn, that was hard, but I did it. Another successful task completed. About 5000 more and I should be moved in.
Yea, Yippee, Hooray."
Average Ameriacn
Member
Tue Jan 01 07:43:41
Can you link his FB account, please?
jergul
large member
Tue Jan 01 09:24:16
Yah, well. In lieu of flowers on his memory page:

"I have known Clark "Hot Rod" Johnson for 20 years through his internet persona on a small political internet forum. While I often found his politics infuriating, I will easily acknowledge that discussions with him helped me better understand many aspects of American life and society. I do know that he was truly proud and fond of his nephew's family, and he recalled his mother with great affection. I often think of Hot Rod as a true child of the depression - molded from the hardships of his early years and perhaps never fully benefiting from the prosperity he helped create throughout his life. Hot Rod served his country in Germany during his enlistment and remained as staunch and good a patriot as you might ever meet in all the years that I have known him. May he rest in peace. Jergul"
patom
Member
Tue Jan 01 09:42:32
Well said^
Seb
Member
Tue Jan 01 10:05:22
Whoever put up that little Davey comment is a grade A piece of shit.

We don't know who might genuinely be grieving, they don't need to see your fucking idiotic, self indulgent paedophilia joke.

smart dude
Member
Tue Jan 01 10:10:16
lol Seb is triggered
smart dude
Member
Tue Jan 01 10:13:45
Nice bullshit post, Jergul. It's all crap but maybe the family will appreciate it and I guess that's the point.
Paramount
Member
Tue Jan 01 10:20:57
"I have known Clark "Hot Rod" Johnson for 20 years ...”


Do you mean Clark ”Hot Himmler Rod” Johnson or maybe Clark ”Hot Hamas Rod” Johnson?
Seb
Member
Tue Jan 01 10:23:00
Grow up.
jergul
large member
Tue Jan 01 10:24:52
Seb
I found that rather oblique. If anyone who cares is able to decypher, then it would reflect well on HR. He posted in a toxic hell-hole for decades. Moral fiber and all that (no one would entertain lill-davey as real).

smart dude
Member
Tue Jan 01 10:33:43
Don't interrupt Seb's virtue signaling. It makes him feel good to go on the Internet to tell other grown-ups to "grow up." For some reason.
Seb
Member
Tue Jan 01 10:47:35
Jergul:

Asside from the principle of the thing*, imagine a great-nephew googling their way to that?

It's not about where they entertain the concept as real - the offence is in vandalising the memorial and intruding into their grief. And even if that risk is low, the impact is potentially very high, and the payoff is purely a moment of self indulgence.

I can only liken it to finding someone jerking off over a grave. It says very bad things about the furtive masturbator, whether or not there were family there to see it and be disturbed.


*Literally "Stop, Stop, can't you see he's already dead?"
Seb
Member
Tue Jan 01 10:49:15
smart dude:

Childish cynicism isn't he behaviour of a grown up whatever your age. I'm not sure you understand what virtue signalling means.
smart dude
Member
Tue Jan 01 10:52:24
"the action or practice of publicly expressing opinions or sentiments intended to demonstrate one's good character or the moral correctness of one's position on a particular issue."

Pretty much sums up your post, pal.
smart dude
Member
Tue Jan 01 10:54:21
"Childish cynicism isn't he behaviour of a grown up"

A tautology. Obviously if something is "childish" it isn't the behavior of a grown up. Nice argument.
Dukhat
Member
Tue Jan 01 10:55:12
Seb's not wrong. To defile his webpage with the little davey comment broached all kind of norms. But that seems to be where our world is headed anyways with the retard we elected.
Seb
Member
Tue Jan 01 11:15:59
Smart Dude:

That's not the original definition. And this definition basically applies to any public statement so as to be meaningless.

E.g. "Don't interrupt Seb's virtue signaling. It makes him feel good to go on the Internet to tell other grown-ups to "grow up." For some reason."

Is:
1. A public statement of opinion
2. Intended to demonstrate your good character (you are not the sort of person to virtue signal, which is clearly a vice in your framing).

The way you use the term virtue signalling is as a cheap but easily dismissed attempt to invalidate any opinion you disagree with. Ultimately rather solipsistic at best it nihilistic at worse, and exactly the kind of childish teenaged cynicism that passes for wisdom among the unreflective manchildren of the world.
Seb
Member
Tue Jan 01 11:44:45
Smart dude:

"A tautology. Obviously if something is "childish" it isn't the behavior of a grown up. Nice argument."

It's not a tautology. Your cynicism is childish, which means your behaviour is not that of an adult. Ergo, telling you to grow up is appropriate. The logic depends on indulgence in childish cynicism not being the behaviour of an adult.

Seb
Member
Tue Jan 01 11:57:20
Does anyone else now suspect we know the identity of the furtive graveside masturbator?
hood
Member
Tue Jan 01 12:12:11
I'm not sure smart dude seems like the type of person with enough ambition to follow an external link just to troll a dead guy.
smart dude
Member
Tue Jan 01 12:13:43
Seb has his pitchfork ready it seems. And without a shred of evidence is trying to suggest that I vandalized Rod's Facebook page. Who's the grade A piece of shit?

BTW Seb obviously failed logic class. If the sentence "childish behavior isn't the behavior of a grown-up" isn't a tautology then I don't know what he thinks is.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Jan 01 12:16:33
Pillz & WoO like to bring the hate in general

i don't really pay attention to who posts that Davey stuff specifically though
Spam Rod
Member
Tue Jan 01 12:18:33
I for one never posted spam.
smart dude
Member
Tue Jan 01 12:18:55
Also I nominate Seb as Hot Rod's official successor. They both follow the old "I disagree with you so you must be a XXXXX*" routine

*insert "liberal," "Nazi," "graveside masturbator," or whatever you want.

Which seems to me a bit...childish? To use Seb's favorite insult.
Memory Lane
Member
Tue Jan 01 12:22:07
I remember only one other poster who doxxed or would go to extreme levels of exposing the person. And they are lurking or using another account. Alexander Hamilton/Renzo Marquez

I drink and I remember things.
Seb
Member
Tue Jan 01 12:24:01
Smart Dude:

A tautology would be saying the same thing twice, redundantly.

E.g. "they arrived after each other in succession".

Here the point is the thing you are indulging in is not consistent with the behaviour of an adult. The fact that childish cynicism is obviously not adult by definition is precisely the point I'm drawing attention to.

Saying "childish behaviour is not the behaviour of an adult" is more obviously tautological.


smart dude
Member
Tue Jan 01 12:29:12
Because the difference between "grown-up" and "adult" is....? And the difference between "is not" and "isn't"...." Explain please.

LOL, stop embarrassing yourself.
jergul
large member
Tue Jan 01 12:38:43
If google, then they would land here for much, much worse.

I disagree on your approach to curbing behavior. The only real answer to the obnoxious is:

Meh.
smart dude
Member
Tue Jan 01 12:40:25
"childish behaviour isn't the behaviour of a grown-up"

^ Not tautologous

"childish behaviour is not the behaviour of an adult"

^ tautologous

Welcome to Seblogic. The first is not tautologous no!) because I said it and I'm a grave masturbator. The second is tautologous because Seb said it was. Because he is so smaht.
TJ
Member
Tue Jan 01 12:57:34
Hot Rod's interaction was a gift he provided. The man was like a Timex watch that kept on ticking. That watch has stopped, and yet, still providing entertainment. Soon it will fall silent aside from an occasional tweak.
obaminated
Member
Tue Jan 01 13:32:01
Nice post about HR, Jergul.
patom
Member
Tue Jan 01 13:35:21
What TJ said.

Never did understand, nor do I care, where the little davy crap started. It was here before I started on this site.

I can only come to the conclusion that anyone continuing this after Hot Rod is deceased would beat a dead horse. Sad.
obaminated
Member
Tue Jan 01 13:39:55
it is nice to know most of us still understand being generally respectful.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Tue Jan 01 14:00:53
This is a comment on Hot Rods obituary now.

"I'll never forget you Clark but we called you Hot Rod because of your love of cars. I remember getting stuck in a crawlspace once and you came and entertained me and kept me safe. We were there for a long time but I survived because you brought me food and water until I could escape."
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Tue Jan 01 14:02:43
by Lil Davey Jones.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Tue Jan 01 14:11:51
>>The only real answer to the obnoxious is:

Meh.<<

Until the obnoxious beats you in the head with a bat and kills you. But I get your point, I also get sebs point. You go meh out of breath sooner or later.
Seb
Member
Tue Jan 01 14:18:48
Smart dude:

"^ Not tautologous"

No. That's tautologous too. Do you want me to point out your mistake?
smart dude
Member
Tue Jan 01 14:49:56
Nah, not interested in more Sebsplaining. I think you've embarrassed yourself enough. Also fuck you for accusing me of posting things on HR's Facebook. Asshat.
obaminated
Member
Tue Jan 01 15:02:42
id also like to join the small group that doesnt think SD did it. he is just the sort of weird dude who would spend the first day of the new year defending it.
jergul
large member
Tue Jan 01 15:04:21
Nimi
"Don't feed the trolls" is generally accepted as a gold standard. I understand Seb too, but chosing battles and all that.
obaminated
Member
Tue Jan 01 15:04:22
my money is on the piss chugger.
jergul
large member
Tue Jan 01 15:05:32
I was convinced of SDs innocence by him not actually knowing where the post was made (he thinks FB).
McKobb
Member
Tue Jan 01 15:07:08
He was the man keeping this place alive as an active foil.

RIP Utopiaforums
smart dude
Member
Tue Jan 01 15:14:04
Oh, I missed this bit:

"That's not the original definition. And this definition basically applies to any public statement so as to be meaningless."

What on earth difference does it make what the "original definition" is? This isn't etymology class for christs sake. As for the seccond half of your statement, sure, you have a point.

"The way you use the term virtue signalling is as a cheap but easily dismissed attempt to invalidate any opinion you disagree with. Ultimately rather solipsistic at best it nihilistic at worse, and exactly the kind of childish teenaged cynicism that passes for wisdom among the unreflective manchildren of the world."

"childish teenaged cynicism," "manchildren," "solopsistic," "unreflective." etc....What, these aren't "cheap" attempts to "invalidate any opinion you disagree with?" Get a grip on yourself.
Seb
Member
Tue Jan 01 15:14:42
Smart dude:

Your performative anger at the mere implication you might be someone who shitposts on an obituary would carry more weight if you hadn't just spent so much energy arguing that taking offense at such behaviour was ridiculous.

smart dude
Member
Tue Jan 01 15:16:10
"he is just the sort of weird dude who would spend the first day of the new year defending it."

I didn't defend it. But thanks for not pulling a Seb and blaming it on me for no reason.
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