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jergul
large member
Tue Jan 01 15:20:52
3rd thread. Hot Rod would be pleased. Pray continue.
smart dude
Member
Tue Jan 01 15:30:43
The numbering of these threads is getting to Rocky levels of confusing though.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Jan 01 15:45:40
its more like Rambo than Rocky
smart dude
Member
Tue Jan 01 15:57:36
That's what I meant to say.
Pillz
Member
Tue Jan 01 16:29:09
Hot Rod was arguably the worst of man kind.

It is probably to all our benefit that his genes were not passed on.
superdude
Member
Tue Jan 01 16:54:12
I've been gone a while. whose CJ 2nd?
Paramount
Member
Tue Jan 01 17:02:59
He’s probably not dead at all. I bet he is laughing his ass off right now.

His name is supposedly Clark D Johnson according to TJ.

So why is there is a Clark C Johnson in Kansas who also happen to have a nephew named Greg?

http://www...k-C-Johnson/Wichita-KS/bq32fuv


And Hot Rod supposedly died for the 2nd time on the same day, around Christmas. I don’t know. Too much weirds things in this story.
Paramount
Member
Tue Jan 01 17:07:47
Hot Rod may be dead though. He probably got bored of this place because no one was here to talk with him for a couple of days, so he quit. But Clark Johnson is alive.

If he’s dead, post a picture of his body with a printed screenshot of utopiaforums.com on his chest.
Jesse Malcolm Barack
Member
Tue Jan 01 17:26:07
Looks like Sam Adams misses Rod http://www...johnson-obituary?pid=191112817
jergul
large member
Tue Jan 01 18:21:02
I am beginning to want to write obituaries for more of you.

Did you really need to go completely over the top? Good satire would have left room for guesswork on if sammy had - or had not - penned the rememberance.

It would also have provided comfort for the family, no matter how misplaced the sentiment given the author's intent.
jergul
large member
Tue Jan 01 18:21:37
(not adressed to you in particular JMB).
Hrothgar
Member
Tue Jan 01 22:45:25
I feel like a total ass hole, but I truly laughed when I noticed someone wrote a "Little Davey Jones" entry.
obaminated
Member
Wed Jan 02 00:12:10
i just read that actual lil davy post. it isn't that bad and it is an inside joke only we would get. any family of his who see it won't know it is about him being a pedo. so, id say, though a bit tasteless, it isn't nearly as bad as it couldve been.
Seb
Member
Wed Jan 02 01:15:16
Anything overtly bad would have been moderated.

But look at it this way: if you got hit by a bus and someone here doxed you, would you want even the slightest risk your family (particularly kids grandkids, whatever) being trolled? Even if they didn't get the full picture, they know that's someone taking the piss (they'd very likely know the story isnt real) and there's an outside chance they track it back.

Whats the upside vs the harm?

It's not trolling hot rod. He's dead. It's potentially trolling someone random stranger who just lost a close family member.

This is just basic human empathy.
Cherub Cow
Member
Wed Jan 02 01:18:28
2nd thread for reference: http://www...hread=83872&time=1546377370872

I know we're all hurting, but let's not devolve into Sebbishness; we can be truthful about HR and his time here without attacking others for not following Sebbish, backwards, monarchy-based morality. (I.e., Don't be Seb-baited.)

At any rate, Hot Rod may really be dead this time, but he once or twice did get to sit through people eulogizing him while alive (that is, if it really was him after the first and second "fake" deaths and not just someone taking over his sn). This scene from "Waking Ned Devine" (1998) comes to mind:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXe_kRQdHfU
If you haven't seen the movie, in this scene, Jackie O'Shea (Ian Bannen) is supposed to eulogize Ned Devine (who has actually died), but a man from the lottery, who must believe that Ned Devine is alive so that the town can collect Devine's winnings, walks in right before Jackie can start, so, instead, Jackie pretends that his friend, Michael O'Sullivan (David Kelly), has died and eulogizes him instead — Michael sits listening.

Hot Rod "had his faults", but that's part of being human. His faults weren't Sebbish with that kind of syphilitic dementia, but I think that his isolation let a polarized media control his patterns of outrage; if Fox News had broadcast a particular topic, then that topic was HR's for the duration of the news cycle. Fox News, like CNN, would identify enemies, and Hot Rod would come here to see if anyone could defend the thinking of these enemies.

Below the surface, HR wanted interaction. People can't talk back to "Fahrenheit 451" interactive TVs yet, so the conversation exists for places like UP. But it wasn't just his outrage he brought here. He wanted to share his favorite movies here, or his perception of old histories and cultural moments significant to him. A lot of it was so specific to his generation and his life that it was too obscure for responses... and still he tried to connect. Imagine finding yourself alone with references that few people know or acknowledge — like part of a demographic that only Turner Classic Movies entertains. Old celebrities die off many years after their last film appearance, and you can remember them still for when they were young and unattainable icons. Real-life friends fade away too. There's only a lifeless room holding memories that can no longer be activated because that requires a living motivation. All that's left is a simulated place where you can get attention for being outlandish, ridiculous, or sometimes Sebbish.

In short, you may not have liked HR, but did you like him less than Seb? The greatest tragedy of the miserable is that they die out of better order, with the soldiers burned while the cowards flee Troy. Wait, that wasn't my point. I meant to say that UP was Hot Rod's family. It was his last big connection to the world. That doesn't mean he wasn't awful, but it does mean something. Like that Seb is worse.
Seb
Member
Wed Jan 02 01:25:59
Too obvious. -1 deer.
OsamaIsDaWorstPresid
Member
Wed Jan 02 01:54:30
r u callin cherib cow a deer?
Cherub Cow
Member
Wed Jan 02 02:12:21
A reference to this:
"Teens Migrating From Facebook To Comments Section Of Slow-Motion Deer Video"
[Onion: Video]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4mMY2Kl3GY
obaminated
Member
Wed Jan 02 02:41:27
"It's not trolling hot rod. He's dead. It's potentially trolling someone random stranger who just lost a close family member."

this is a good point.

Daemon
Member
Wed Jan 02 09:09:00
What happens in Utopia Politics stays in Utopia Politics. No need to harass (dead) members outside of this forum.
jergul
large member
Wed Jan 02 09:31:11
Mordechai wrote something nice. Which begs the question: Who is Mordechai?
hood
Member
Wed Jan 02 10:34:33
Despite the Jewish name, not me.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Wed Jan 02 11:03:01
Where is fred?
TJ
Member
Wed Jan 02 13:15:06
I didn't dox Hot Rod. I sought and gained permission from his remaining family to post his obit on this message board. If they hadn't approved I'd remained silent and he simply would have disappeared from the board.

Believe me when I say-I placed much thought into letting the board know that Hot Rod passed considering all his history in and out of UP. I had some long phone conversations with him over the years we've posted in UP. I was fully aware of the potential responses it would create. Kind of the proverbial two-edged sword.

If doing so turns out to be a mistake it probably won't be my last. What others do in this twilight zone is not my responsibility and I feel absolved of any guilt in that matter.

Clark was basically a shut-in due to affordability and physical disability. Utopia was the greater part of his life as time and age closed in on his world. I'm proud to have been called a friend by him even though I've never met him face to face. I tried to be a positive in his later life and hope the attempt lightened his loneliness, even if it was a small degree.

Unlike the song by Blood, Sweat and Tears "When I die", his brothers son is carrying on. He was married years ago, but had no children.
OsamaIsDaWorstPresid
Member
Wed Jan 02 14:55:44
fred died of aidz so snuke shukld prolie b cheked for stds
jergul
large member
Wed Jan 02 15:29:01
TJ
You absolutely did the correct thing. Most of us care (in one way or another). Its good that it be known.

Nothing is sadder than passing without remark.
Paramount
Member
Wed Jan 02 16:18:29
Well that happened one time many years ago. There was this older guy, I don’t know remember his name anymore, but he was an older guy and was much like Hot Rod. This was back in the days when I was using my aj4a account and when Asgard and Stoffi(?) was around, and there was another guy from the US, a Palestinian I believe, but he was born in the US. We were discussing Israel a lot back then as you may remember. And we had this discussion with this older guy (maybe his name was Oscar?) and he kept on typing posts, defending Israel, until one day when he typed a post and it was only half finished. He had hit the submit button right in the middle of a sentence. It was an unfinished post. He was never heard of again. We thought that maybe he had a stroke or a heart attack and hit the submit button as he fell off his chair and died. He was gone without any remark. No one has seen him since.
Paramount
Member
Wed Jan 02 16:24:37
Actually, there was a remark, but I meant to say that no one seemed to care a lot that he was gone. No RIP threads or anything like that.
Seb
Member
Wed Jan 02 16:40:49
TJ:

I wasn't implying you were, just circumventing those that would go "ah, but I'm anonymous so good luck"
Seb
Member
Wed Jan 02 16:42:06
I don't think you made a mistake by the way. We're all supposedly adults. If some don't know how to behave and can't figure out the potential for harm, that's on them.
TJ
Member
Wed Jan 02 17:17:51
jergul & Seb:

You've both mentioned the most important points I wrestled with in the decision process.
patom
Member
Wed Jan 02 21:18:46
TJ, you are correct that you can't take responsibility for the actions of others. That is fully on them.
Forwyn
Member
Wed Jan 02 21:30:17
The LDJ post must have been removed, I can't see it.

The "SA" post had me laughing though.

"In short, you may not have liked HR, but did you like him less than Seb?"

rofl

"I sought and gained permission from his remaining family to post his obit on this message board."

FWIW, I really appreciate it, TJ.

I'll miss that old fuck.
swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Thu Jan 03 10:44:13
Powerwolf - Resurrection By Erection

Published on Nov 26, 2009


LYRICS:

When purgatory's waiting
And the girl immaculate
The highest of commandments dictates to copulate
No grave is animated, you're buried all alone
So let her work a wonder
And wake your flesh and bone

Resurrection by erection
Raise you phallus to the sky and you never die
It's resurrection by erection
Raise your bone up to the sky and you never gonna die
Hallelujah, resurrection

The funeral is calling
The mortuary blow
Between my legs I'm waking
I rise from down below
Why do you think believer
God gave you carnal lust
So pray to get a hard on
Before we turn to dust

The devil and the maiden
Prepare for going wild
The new messiah calling
The purgatory child
Before my flesh is fading
The virgin has a turn
The third of days we're climbing the point of no return

Resurrection by erection
When you wake up from the dead and the angels give a head
Hallelujah, resurrection

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hiu1hPdJk-Y
Hrothgar
Member
Fri Jan 04 01:40:34
This is a song I wouldn't mind performed at my funeral, and so I send it to the memories of HotRod for better and worse and funny that we all share.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoVaK2NXmJA
Forwyn
Member
Fri Jan 04 02:16:23
I bought Shadow of War over Black Friday. Been on a LoTR kick, probably played this song a hundred times over the past month.

Weird and appropriate
Snuke
Member
Sun Jan 13 04:30:33
Bumping.

Extremely weird lurking and not seeing HR.
Pillz
Member
Sun Jan 13 17:23:13
Reminder that hot rod had the highest post count by far but all of it was effectively spam.

He was tolerated because he was clearly demented. He's dead now and we should all be thankful.
patom
Member
Sun Jan 13 21:09:20
Pillz, ain't no fun sitting in a circle agreeing with everyone.
Canadian
Member
Sat Jan 26 22:21:39
I was just passing by. Thank you for posting the obit TJ.
Pillz
Member
Sun Jan 27 00:42:14
Nothing of value was lost.
TJ
Member
Mon Jan 28 12:19:27
To those who have thanked me for posting the notification of HR passing, it is appreciated.

Life is a serial killer and there is no escape from its clutches. Everyone is potentially a victim with every breath and action. Everyone has value. HR exposed character deficiencies not only in himself, but others as well from my perspective, me included.

Clark, as an example, had value that should have motivated every person who came into contact with him for any period of time. Hopefully all of you have many years ahead striving for improvement in your rather short captivity known as life.

His regrets over time seemed to be the hub that made him bitter, obstinate, and angrier with quick responses and lack of patience. The inability or chosen disregard of foresight produced detrimental consequences, which wreaks with value, stimulating the process of thought and direction.

It is unfortunate that some are so shallow in observation that they fail to understand the magnitude of his value.

It was also unfortunate that HR didn't seem to recognize that in himself, or maybe he did in his last hours when it was too late for him to resolve outside of himself.

We'll never know for certain because he died alone, most likely, for the reasons stated above. The timeline seems to provide opportunity that his death could have been a lingering experience. He may have had hours to reflect on his expiring life compounding his long experienced agony in a number of ways.

Value is subjective and often elusive. He lived many years with the way he was taught in his younger foundation and never managed to unlock the chains that bound him.

Life is a serious game and the levels of play are endless.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Mon Jan 28 15:36:48
Amen.

It felt appropriate. Thank you.
Pillz
Member
Mon Jan 28 16:56:36
You are all bleeding heart faggots with no convictions.

Except for tj. That is his conviction.
patom
Member
Mon Jan 28 17:29:29
Well said TJ.
obaminated
Member
Mon Jan 28 18:56:07
Kudos TJ.
Canadian
Member
Mon Jan 28 21:29:00
^What patom and obaminated just said.

And Pillz, he who brings the gay into a conversation that doesn't warrant it, wears it like a dude dancing on a float in a pride parade.
Seb
Member
Tue Jan 29 16:05:26
Hear hear.
Dukhat
Member
Tue Jan 29 17:05:56
Exaggerated nonsense. It's pretty simple. Hot Rod was a helpless idiot who had not bothered to make any real friends or relationships and was already dead inside 20 years ago.

This shithole of a forum was a refuge for him to regurgitate stupid shit he heard from Fox News.

But at least Hot Rod was old and infirm and had that excuse. What's sadder is you 30-year old retards who still have every opportunity to change subscribing to the men's rights, cuckservative movement.

Most people here have not learned anything nor will they.
Pillz
Member
Tue Jan 29 18:36:22
A bunch of people on the internet lament over the passing of someone they trolled and spat vitriol at for over a decade.

I believe the gay term here is circle jerk.

Wonder why the shit you're partaking in is all related to faggotry, faggot.
Pillz
Member
Tue Jan 29 18:38:01
Also how does cuckhat not yet realize he's the cuckservative and he means to call everyone else alt-right, and that these terms are not interchangeable?
Average Ameriacn
Member
Tue Jan 29 18:39:52
Pillz is a filthy Canadian and hates American patriots like Hot Rod.
CrownRoyal
Member
Tue Jan 29 18:52:04
It is not Rod that people mourn, my boy. Well, maybe few do. But most just mourn the passage of time. People get older, they tend to look back with some nostalgia, remembering good times, trying to forget anything negative. The fact that Rod was not a good human being is neither here nor there
Canadian
Member
Tue Jan 29 21:54:32
"Pillz
Member Tue Jan 29 18:36:22
A bunch of people on the internet lament over the passing of someone they trolled and spat vitriol at for over a decade."

- Hot Rod was someone I conversed with, regardless of the content of that interaction, therefore he deserves a moment of my time. I wouldn't know about "the gay term" for that, though I'm pretty sure 'the gays' just use normal words like the rest of us, like giving a shit about the lives of the people that we interact with.
obaminated
Member
Tue Jan 29 22:57:38
Eh. It is just pillz being immature. It isnt really something worth reacting to. Death effects everyone differently.
patom
Member
Wed Jan 30 03:00:52
To all of you who are 20,30,or even 40 somethings.I hope you live into your 70's with your faculties intact and can remember your thoughts on Hot Rod.

To the best of my knowledge the only one who ever met him personally was Fred. TJ had direct contact with him via the phone.

The rest of us used him as a sounding board to either agree or disagree with on many topics. Some of you just used him to beat on, I still have no idea why, but that is for you to deal with.

He's gone now, but I hope he won't be forgotten.
jergul
large member
Thu Feb 07 07:10:44
http://www.bbc.com/news/disability-47064773
Paramount
Member
Thu Feb 07 07:21:42
I noticed that only like two weeks before Hot Rod died, he was posting in a music thread over at General Talk... songs with the title CRYING and ONLY THE ONLY


Didn't his family care to visit him?



Hot Rod
Revved Up Mon Dec 10 15:23:38

CRYING - Roy Orbison

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNdBLBleO90


Hot Rod
Revved Up Mon Dec 10 15:25:12

ONLY THE LONELY = Roy Orbison

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YG__LBJVZ0
patom
Member
Thu Feb 07 09:31:36
Out of sight, out of mind. If you know anyone who works in or has worked in a nursing home and they will tell you that when one of the residents are dying or have died. They will see relatives come out of the wood work with all sorts of empty platitudes about the dead or dying. Most of them never visited the resident. Keep that in mind when you have a family member that may be unfortunate enough to need to be cared for in a Nursing home or Extended Care facility. If you really care for them, visit them regularly at odd times. Even if they no longer recognize you. Just to insure that the staff pay a little more attention to your loved ones.
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