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Paramount
Member
Sun Jan 20 04:20:26
I wonder who Hot Rod would have sided with? We know that Hot Rod loved kids and that he had several MAGA hats himself, but he was also a patriot who had great respect of the war veterans and always stood up to them.

Maybe it is good that Hot Rod isn’t here anymore so he doesn’t have to see this, because I think it’s possible that this scene would make him very sad and heartbroken and he wouldn’t have known what to do.


MAGA KIDS HARASS ELDER VIETNAM VET

A mob of MAGA hat-wearing teenagers swarmed around a Native American Vietnam veteran to harass and drown out his peaceful demonstration -- and the scene was tense.

The face-off went down Friday at the D.C. National Mall -- near Arlington National Cemetery -- where Omaha elder Nathan Phillips, who served in the Vietnam War, was drumming and singing toward the tail end of the Indigenous People's March.

According to local reports, a large group of men -- including many young boys who were wearing MAGA gear -- descended upon Phillips and began mocking him ... with one student getting right up in his face as he peacefully tried reciting his song.

What's depicted here is sickening ... many of the boys are mimicking Phillips' singing in a demeaning manner as they surround him and a few lingering marchers. As you can see, one of the boys stands face-to-face with Phillips with a smug grin on his face as he continues to drum.

http://www...-vet-indigenous-peoples-march/
Daemon
Member
Sun Jan 20 04:35:32
Leave the Trump Youth alone!
Rugian
Member
Sun Jan 20 04:40:14
Why is this a story?

Also saw a Slate article pretty much demanding that one of the teenagers be doxed...leftist media is disgusting.
Hot Stick
Member
Sun Jan 20 05:13:32
*MAYBE* he shouldnt have been provocatively screaming his strange language in their faces our national language is *ENGLISH*. Can you people even *PROVE* he is a veteran? Thought not.

-30-
The Children
Member
Sun Jan 20 06:02:34
vuild that wall bitches. maga.

hahaha

Paramount
Member
Sun Jan 20 06:28:30
"Also saw a Slate article pretty much demanding that one of the teenagers be doxed...leftist media is disgusting."


Probably fake.

Also... "pretty much" ... what do you mean "pretty much"? Like, they didn't really demand him to be doxed? Only "almost"?

Besides if anyone wanted to know the kids name and where he lives you could probably just look at his school's photoalbum. They probably have that shit on da internet. Get his name from there and then find his address which you also can do on the internet. Or you could just hang out near his school and then stalk him as he goes home.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Sun Jan 20 06:43:50
2 minutes video. Anywhere you can watch the entire thing? Not that I question the ethics and impartiality of a respected media outlet like TMZ, but I like to form my own opinions.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Sun Jan 20 07:06:14
So the full video shows that the boy doesn’t move. This supposedly older and more mature idiot gets closer and closer until he is drumming in his face. The boy deserves a Noble peace prize.
Rugian
Member
Sun Jan 20 07:08:13
I don't know if this is legit or not, but supposedly this is one of the students' version of what happened:

http://i.imgur.com/IsG5FKQ.jpg

Even odds are that the press was grossly negligent in reporting this story.
jergul
large member
Sun Jan 20 10:25:55
The good old boys will be boys defence.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Sun Jan 20 11:06:28
No. It’s the, we were doing our thing and you came up in our face and we didn’t even know what it was about defence.
TJ
Member
Sun Jan 20 11:11:48
The old goat and his supporters invaded the young mans space attempting to intimidate. Cheers to them for the nonviolent stance.

There are way too many dupes in this country who enable propaganda that reinforces identity politics and destroys any possibility of unity.
jergul
large member
Sun Jan 20 11:20:46
Their thing was boys will be boys "colonel crazy". First paragraph.

TJ
Member
Sun Jan 20 11:28:01
People will be people runs the gambit.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Sun Jan 20 12:02:03
There is nothing wrong with boys being boys by the way. As long as they are being boys at the cost of someone else being whatever it is they are. That didn’t seem to happen here.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Sun Jan 20 12:02:21
aren’t*
TJ
Member
Sun Jan 20 12:37:25
Army's 'Crazy Colonel' up for Fan Hall of Fame.

December 2014.

The term is associated with cheering for the team with exuberance.

Had nothing to do with boys will be boys. Boys are boys, men are men, girls are girls and women are women whom all have individual personalities. People will be people.

Toxic masculinity is absurd terminology for environmentally toxic personalities.

The title of this thread should have read:

"War vet harasses MAGA hat kids."
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Sun Jan 20 12:52:12
Apparently this guys has atleast one other incident of being a ”victim” in media, the other time kids dressing up as Indians. Victimhood dependency is sad.
jergul
large member
Sun Jan 20 13:59:56
"As we are an all male school that loves to get hyped".

jergul
large member
Sun Jan 20 14:01:43
"my friend faces expulsion".

Sam Adams
Member
Sun Jan 20 14:53:09
Ya, the leftists jumped the fucking shark with this one.

Troublemaking indian and black antisemites start shit, national leftist media tries to dox 15 year olds innocent kids.

Their anti-white racism is hurting little kids now.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Sun Jan 20 14:53:13
There is nothing wrong with all male schools wanting to get hyped. Hype is great. Just don’t get overhyped and stupid.

That was easy.

There is nothing wrong with dominance, aggression or even violence. As with all behavior they can be adaptive or maladaptive. Part of maturing into a man is to learn the difference and temper these qualities with knowledge and reason so you can apply them to the benefit of yourself and those around. Too little and you get fucked over, too much and you end up alone without friends, in jail or dead. As the saying goes, there is a time and place for everything.

Had someone taught you these things, then perhaps you wouldn’t have this hatred for testicles. Sad.
Sam Adams
Member
Sun Jan 20 14:53:50
This and the buzzfeed fakery... rough couple of days for leftist news.
jergul
large member
Sun Jan 20 15:16:32
Nimi
lol. The things I was doing at your age.

How is your typing job going?
jergul
large member
Sun Jan 20 15:20:09
As for no wrongdoing. The only information we are missing is if the boy will be permanently expelled, or if the expulsion will be time-limited.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Sun Jan 20 15:28:36
Judging from how you behave now I can imagine your past self is being projected alot. I had taken that into consideration when I said it is sad.
jergul
large member
Sun Jan 20 15:59:36
Sir Typalot
lol.
obaminated
Member
Sun Jan 20 16:11:17
Eh is anyone surprised this was incorrectly reported? Like seriously, how many times has this story been written by liberals in the media over the past 3 years? Someone attached to trump harassed some minority and we are given a very brief video out of context, that should be the first fucking clue that it is "fake news". This was Fake news. There is a reason why fake news is a commonly used and accepted term now. Because you can't trust the news outlets. They fucking ruined this kids life because their hatred for trump blinds them to common decency.

But yeah, not surprised. No reason to believe people on the right are in the wrong when we have had literal riots perpetrated by leftists whenever they seem to gather.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Sun Jan 20 17:34:19
I type with little effort sir braindamagedalot.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Sun Jan 20 17:37:42
It is rich coming from the guy who did (does?) translations for a living though :-)
Dukhat
Member
Sun Jan 20 21:38:56
None of these are mainstream sources anyways. TMZ and Buzzfeed are trash and everybody on the left and right know they are trash.
obaminated
Member
Mon Jan 21 00:33:13
yeah, tmz is totes not a hugely popular news source.
jergul
large member
Mon Jan 21 01:20:52
Sir Typalot
The funny bit is making the tag rhyme phonetically with Lancelot.

It is a comment on volume, not effort per unit of output.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Mon Jan 21 05:06:53
Sir braindamagedalot
Interesting, mine was straightforward about the quality per unit of effort.
jergul
large member
Mon Jan 21 05:09:47
Sir Typalot
Mine was straight forward about the quality per unit of your effort too.

It is poor. Hence my helpful tip.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Mon Jan 21 07:11:41
Sir braindamagedalot
I would never take anything from such an empoverished creature.
jergul
large member
Mon Jan 21 07:57:48
You may want to try verbalizing. Language has a certain rhythm you would do well to follow.

Your last post is for example a nearly unreadable tongue-twister. You actually have to pause mid-word twice.
jergul
large member
Mon Jan 21 07:58:20
^Another helpful tip.
jergul
large member
Mon Jan 21 08:25:24
"The Diocese of Covington and Covington Catholic High School have issued the following statement:

We condemn the actions of the Covington Catholic High School students towards Nathan Phillips specifically, and Native Americans in general, Jan. 18, after the March for Life, in Washington, D.C. We extend our deepest apologies to Mr. Phillips. This behavior is opposed to the Church’s teachings on the dignity and respect of the human person.

The matter is being investigated and we will take appropriate action, up to and including expulsion.

We know this incident also has tainted the entire witness of the March for Life and express our most sincere apologies to all those who attended the March and all those who support the pro-life movement."
Rugian
Member
Mon Jan 21 08:26:44
Standard PR damage control. Facts need not be involved in drafting that statement.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Mon Jan 21 08:43:06
”Your last post is for example a nearly unreadable tongue-twister. You actually have to pause mid-word twice.”

Brain damage confirmed.

A few casualties will be necessary to re-elect Trump.
jergul
large member
Mon Jan 21 08:43:35
Ruggy
Funny you should say that. It is exactly how I read the pupil's "explanation".

I assume the pupils were chaperoned that chaperone input was instrumental in the wording of the press release.

We will see what disciplinary measures are handed out.
jergul
large member
Mon Jan 21 08:45:32
Nimi
Perhaps it is readable with a heavy Farsi accent. So let me clarify by saying you should verbalize in as close an emulation as possible to any of the many recognized English dialects.
jergul
large member
Mon Jan 21 08:49:15
You may need to trim your beard first.
hood
Member
Mon Jan 21 09:12:56
Jergul, don't encourage the barbarian terrorists to speak more recognizable English. It'll be harder to profile them.
Rugian
Member
Mon Jan 21 09:15:11
Why are you enabling him Hood? His English is just about the worst out of anyone's on this forum.
jergul
large member
Mon Jan 21 09:38:42
Hot Rod
Why do you hate America?
hood
Member
Mon Jan 21 09:45:15
More of a friendly jab at nim than any sort of affirmation that jergul was doing something correct, Rugian.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Mon Jan 21 09:53:51
Jergul
I will give it a try once you produce medical evidence you do not suffer from brain damage. We shouldn’t waste time with lessons in english prose if you are in need of a medically induced coma.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Mon Jan 21 09:58:20
I tell you, I have never looked more like a terrorist then I do currently. The wrong accent on top of that and I would probably make some CIA list.
jergul
large member
Mon Jan 21 09:59:35
Nice! The cadence was much better in that last post.

You are welcome!
Forwyn
Member
Mon Jan 21 13:11:35
Lulz. This was a pretty good fake news piece.

Sucks for the families getting witch hunted.
smart dude
Member
Mon Jan 21 21:40:33
Surprise, surprise. More facts emerge and suddenly it's not so simple. Anyway, Slate has decided to similtaneously backtrack and double down with their newest piece of the story. Because they're trash:

http://sla...athan-phillips-maga-video.html

At least the Shitlantic actually apologized for their original reporting:

http://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/01/julie-irwin-zimmerman-i-failed-covington-catholic-test/580897/
Dukhat
Member
Mon Jan 21 22:01:27
The Atlantic is probably the best news source there is. But cuckservatives looooove blowing up anecdotes.

Funny thing is at least they offered a correction. Still waiting for numerous apologies and corrections from Fox for their many egregious errors.
obaminated
Member
Mon Jan 21 22:08:13
"Sandmann smugly grins in Phillips’s face and declines to step backward" cuck slips up revealing how much of a cuck he is. He genuinely finds it distasteful than one man didnt back away when another man aggressive approached him. And Superdud likes the article. Hmmmmmmmm
smart dude
Member
Tue Jan 22 00:56:01
lol what
obaminated
Member
Tue Jan 22 01:11:00
im sorry, i guess i assumed you read the thread you were responding to. we established, yesterday, that this was a fake news issue.
obaminated
Member
Tue Jan 22 01:12:05
where did parafag go though? he jumped on this story in a predictably irrational fashion
jergul
large member
Tue Jan 22 01:16:38
Obam
So, how many weeks suspension do you think the boy(s) will get?

Or do you not trust what the chaperones reported to the school?
kargen
Member
Tue Jan 22 01:47:31
President Trump should invite them to the White House just to watch the media go nuts.
jergul
large member
Tue Jan 22 02:07:35
Kargen
Sure. Its not as if it will interfere with school work. Something to do while suspended or expelled.
smart dude
Member
Tue Jan 22 03:49:41
“im sorry, i guess i assumed you read the thread you were responding to. we established, yesterday, that this was a fake news issue."

what in the name of fuck does that have anything that I posted? i was comparing the responses to this fake news of two different news sources. and what part of your feeble mind made you think the word "trash" implied that I "liked” it? You really are the next Hot Rod.
smart dude
Member
Tue Jan 22 03:50:41
*anything to do with what
Rugian
Member
Tue Jan 22 08:14:57
Enough of jergul's bullshit.

----

January 21, 2019 - 12:00 PM EST

Only a matter of time before the social media mob comes for you

Not content with the bonfire of journalistic credibility Buzzfeed set alight on Friday, much of the mainstream media have made matters worse. Over the weekend, they directed their politicized venom at a group of teenagers from Covington Catholic School in Kentucky. And because of their political bias, they got it very wrong, again.

As the March for Life in Washington wound down, a video surfaced showing what appears to be a group of Catholic students, many clad in "MAGA" hats, confronting Nathan Phillips, an activist from the Indigenous People's March. This set off all kinds of social justice alarm bells. The media leapt into action, condemning the students with ferocity and even vindictiveness.

Journalists went on the offensive. CNN ran an article titled "Teens in Make America Great Again hats mocked a Native American elder at the Lincoln Memorial" but later changed the headline to "Teen in confrontation with Native American says he was trying to diffuse the situation." Anna Merlan of Jezebel tweeted out a request for Covington Catholic High School yearbooks in what appeared to be an effort to identify, and possibly dox, the students. Former CNN host Reza Aslan tweeted "honest question have you ever seen a more punchable face than this kids" with a photo of one of the Covington students seen in the video.

The apparatchiks of the social justice left piled on to ensure that heads would roll. The activist gathering site Change.org shows a petition demanding changes at Covington Catholic School, including the termination of the principal. Clearly petrified by the avalanche of bad press, the administrators at Covington initially condemned the actions of their own students, some of whom were said to face expulsion. There were even reports that Covington parents have received death threats.

Unsurprisingly, this entire incident has been egregiously mischaracterized to bash the Catholic, Donald Trump-supporting teenagers, and protect some adult left wing protestors from accountability for acting very poorly. The media saw an opportunity to advance a preferred narrative of privileged, white, Trump-supporting students disrespecting a Native American elder for no reason other than a "dislike of others." And they ran with it.

But that's not what really happened. You can watch the full video of the incident here. The truth is that these high school students were harassed, mocked, and threatened leading up to the confrontation with Philips, who chose to get in their faces and pound his drum.

Present before and after the entire exchange was a radical activist group called the "Black Israelites," who yelled the following at the Covington students: "White people go back to Europe, this is not your land, "the biggest terrorist on the face of this earth is the pale faced man, woman and child," "come closer and you gonna catch it," "I hope you crackers are ready," "you have a school shooter haircut."

There were homophobic and ethnic slurs, all manners of hateful language, and all directed at the Covington students. These are teenagers who were being menaced by a group of adult males, and it was in that circumstances that Philips, clearly aware of what was going on, decided march into the crowd of Covington students. And the "Black Israelites" egged him on.

Once again, the media has disgraced itself with its coverage of this incident. They could not resist the opportunity to slam a group of young men who fit preconceived notions of "white privilege." Their clear support for Trump, of course, made them de facto guilty in many journalists' eyes before anything was said or done. That these young men were defamed, with their lives possibly forever damaged, for the transient self-satisfaction of reckless journalists is appalling. There is much soul searching that needs to be done in newsrooms across the country.

There is also a bigger lesson to be drawn from this. Social media mobs are a cancer on this country, and those in the news business have an obligation not to carelessly magnify malignant efforts at personal destruction. This affects all of us. It does not matter who you are, whether you are active online, care about politics, or keep to yourself. The social justice mob may come for you, your spouse or your child, and engage in a ritualistic destruction of their online reputation. Even a trip to the Lincoln Memorial for high school kids can be turned into something catastrophic.

The press must be better than this, especially those who have the power of a large online platform. Perhaps the only way we can change the current climate is to hold accountable those who play into the rage mob and remind the rest of us that, no matter who you are, it is only a matter of time before the online vigilantes come for you too.

http://the...al-media-mob-comes-for-you?amp
jergul
large member
Tue Jan 22 08:26:15
Ruggy
What can I say? They were chaperoned and the school would not make the statement it did without its representatives at the event concurring with the school's line.

I have no reason to doubt the veteran's subjective storyline. Nor seemingly, does the school.

The idea that the boys were behaving obnoxiously because a group of black men were being obnoxious does not give them the right to treat the veteran the way he was treated.

But lets wait for the school verdict. It had witnesses at the scene and a due process to follow.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Tue Jan 22 08:40:17
Rugian
Video evidence in the post truth era is meaningless. The equation is pretty straight forward:
White boys + MAGA hats = garbage human beings with punchable faces
obaminated
Member
Tue Jan 22 09:18:04
The interesting thing about this is that it is clearly racism that is occurring here. A native american marked a group of white teens and harassed them, because they are white and 150 years ago (ish) people of their color were shitty to people of his color. The media sees an edited video of white teens jeering around a native american and jumps onto the native american's side because 150 years ago (ish) whites were shitty to brown native americans. All the outrage is entirely racially based. The media leaves the fact that a group of blacks were harassing whites as a mere two sentence statement about what happened. If it was a group of whites harassing black teenagers on a fucking field trip do you think the media would be so uninterested in it?

Our society is racist. We live in a time where we are so upset about past sins that we are committing new ones in an attempt prove to the world that we are different.

it is stupid, it is absurd, but it is what we are doing and that sums up the modern left pretty well.
jergul
large member
Tue Jan 22 09:22:19
"A PR firm representing the student who was recorded standing closely facing Phillips released a statement in which he said misinformation..."

You are being managed. Just so you are aware and don't invade Kuwait or something.
TJ
Member
Tue Jan 22 10:14:47
Russia! Russia! Russia! Winning...
Rugian
Member
Tue Jan 22 11:11:00
Jergul,

Just stop it, you're embarrassing yourself. The school's statement was a typical PR response to an ongoing social media crisis, not a product of prudent fact-finding. The fact that you've been leaning on that for the last twenty-odd posts just goes to show how weak your argument actually is.

We have an hour-long video which pretty clearly shows what happened that day. You can accuse the students of not turning the other cheek, but its increasingly evident that the were responding to a situation that others had escalated.

The only takeaway here is that "news" media is complete trash and social media is a cancer on society. Sorry if they hoodwinked you into blasting a teenager and his "stupid face" with a context-free viral clip.
jergul
large member
Tue Jan 22 11:23:35
Ruggy
Shall we wait for the outcome of the disciplinary process? You could be right. the press release may merely be spin.

Time will tell. The school has the advantage of having witnesses on the scene.

We know the boy's statement was spin given it was written by a public relation company hired by the parents.

I have not watched any of the videos and find the veteran's statements to be credible.

That the boys felt provoked by a 3rd party certainly is grounds to consider leniency with a mere suspension.

Context is important after all.
Paramount
Member
Tue Jan 22 12:20:43
I don’t care if the story is fake or not. It is outrageous nonetheless.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Tue Jan 22 12:48:04
As studies show, dumb people and intelligent people are equally biased, but towards different things. What differentiates intelligent people from retards is the formers ability to see and correct errors.
Forwyn
Member
Tue Jan 22 12:49:59
"I have no reason to doubt the veteran's subjective storyline."

Sure you do. He's a fucking ambulance chaser that has been crying wolf for years. He asserted things that are 100% not backed up by video.

"does not give them the right to treat the veteran the way he was treated."

He interjected himself into a situation that he was not requested in. He did not choose to chant with the BHIs, who instigated the situation; he chose to push his way into a crowd of MAGA kids so that he could then whine about racism - while his own buddy was shouting at the teenagers to go back to Europe.
obaminated
Member
Tue Jan 22 12:53:54
And the school is closed today due to threats. When is the last time an inner city school had to fucking close because they couldn't ensure the safety of their students due to neo nazi threats? The far left is a fucking dangerous cancer that has been left alone out of cordiality.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Tue Jan 22 13:00:14
Their webpage is down as well. I think the other sides version is perfectly captured in paramounts post, whether he is being comical or not. I don't care about the facts, I am OUTRAGED! Derivatives which I have seen all over twitter.
Fun time ahead my friends.
Paramount
Member
Tue Jan 22 13:52:29
That is actually something I borrowed from a Swedish cuckservative nationalist/racist.

Ja skiter i att det är fejk det är förjävligt ändå

En flicka får kvarsittning eftersom hennes mobil pryds av svenska flaggan. Men nyheten är fejk. När Mats får veta det blir han likväl upprörd. ”Ja skiter i att det är fejk det är förjävligt ändå”, skriver han på Facebook.

http://www...r-fejk-det-ar-forjavligt-anda/


”A girl got detained in school after class because her mobile was decorated by the Swedish flag. But the news was fake. When he finds out, he is still upset. "I don’t care that the news is fake. It is outrageous anyway!", he wrote on Facebook.”

Paramount
Member
Tue Jan 22 13:53:14
”Their webpage is down as well.”

The boy shouldn’t have messed with the vets.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Tue Jan 22 13:58:59
Yes paramount, it isn't exclusive to any part of the pilitical spectrum.
jergul
large member
Tue Jan 22 14:17:59
You mean the school that is considering disciplinary procedures and is under massive internet campaigning to withdraw its apology and beg the boys' forgiveness?

The left is supposedly doxing and threatening the school?

Sure the kids are at home. But staff is not to go to school for any reason.

Has the left been critical at all of the school's stance?

Statement from Cov Cath to parents:

"The incident that took place at the March for Life in Washington, D.C. is being fully investigated by an independent third-party investigator. Based upon and following an investigation, we will be taking the appropriate action regarding this matter."
Paramount
Member
Tue Jan 22 14:23:57
It looks like the Trump Youths were harassing women also:

http://twi...tatus/1087523928916938752?s=21
hood
Member
Tue Jan 22 14:27:00
"When is the last time an inner city school had to fucking close because they couldn't ensure the safety of their students due to neo nazi threats?"

Yeah, because shooting the place up is a much better alternative? Not a sound argument, there.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Tue Jan 22 14:35:35
Another angle is, school shootings and outraged media fueled social media mobs are equally effective at shutting down schools.
Rugian
Member
Tue Jan 22 14:39:20
Jergul,

Why the obsession with the school's judgment?

The school may end up punishing the kids. Or it might not. Or it might, and we never find out. It's a school, not a court of law. A difficult distinction I'm sure for someone whose side thinks that universities are qualified to act as rape tribunals, but a distinction nonetheless.

And to further weaken your argument, I have ample video evidence of the event, and numerous news sites basically admitting that the media ducked up (I posted one from The Hill, but I have others from the likes of the NYT or USA if you like). Given how the media hated to admit wrongdoing, especially when it comes to alleged acts of white racist MAGA shitlordism, I'm feeling pretty good about knowing who was in the wrong here.
Rugian
Member
Tue Jan 22 14:47:22
"Has the left been critical at all of the school's stance?"

It's almost like that PR statement was a hasty attempt to grovel to the online lynch mob with no relevance to the facts on the ground.



Although even that wasn't enough to please everyone. Here's some SJW naming and shaming the schools sponsors:

http://mob...ter/status/1087063604011065344
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Tue Jan 22 14:52:12
”We don’t need more evolutionary explanations”

These things are not random Rugian, there is a larger pattern that comes with a warning. Let us all try to our best to never go full Jergul, seek the truth and go where the facts may lead us, lest our tribe slowly go extinct confined to a frozen intellectual wasteland.
jergul
large member
Tue Jan 22 14:55:31
Ruggy
Disciplinary action indicates clearly the pupils were out of line.

That conclusion can in turn be tested in a court of law.

3rd party involvement is certainly a mitigating circumstance. Balanced against not obeying direct instructions from teachers at the scene (according to a print source).

The media is obviously in the wrong. The incident involved minors. It should have been referred to with great care and without any imagery.
jergul
large member
Tue Jan 22 14:58:00
Nimi
A fact driven person would rely on the school's investigation. Remember if you will that the pupils were participating in a school activity under school supervision.
obaminated
Member
Tue Jan 22 15:22:17
this is so strange. we literally can't come to an agreement over something that is obvious and clear. This video was fake. We had a vietnam vet harass teenagers and then run to the media to get attention. that is what happened. and yet, somehow, people are still arguing about it.

i don't want to sound alarmist, but it does seem like this is the beginning of something far more terrible.
Forwyn
Member
Tue Jan 22 15:34:04
"vietnam vet"

Which he claims because he enlisted in 1972, tenuously still during Vietnam. lol
Sam Adams
Member
Tue Jan 22 15:34:22
The good news is that the crazy leftists disavow guns and whear pussy hats.

The civil war will be short.
Sam Adams
Member
Tue Jan 22 15:35:07
Ya there is no record of that guy actually being in vietnam right?
Forwyn
Member
Tue Jan 22 15:45:38
Which would be like me claiming to be an Iraq veteran because I happened to enlist while it was winding down but technically still an open theatre
Sam Adams
Member
Tue Jan 22 15:46:10
http://tow...was-not-a-vietnam-vet-n2539669

Yup. The left has been on a roll of failure these last few weeks.
obaminated
Member
Tue Jan 22 15:49:13
what a piece of shit. seriously. there are so many layers of him being a piece of shit. he is a grown adult, a man who is in the twilight of his life and he is willing to destroy the life of someone who is at the start of their life to further his political agenda. jesus. this is disgusting.
Cherub Cow
Member
Tue Jan 22 15:55:11
“we literally can't come to an agreement over something that is obvious and clear”

I think we can. Just keep in mind that Jergul is mentally retarded or trolling in the guise of a mentally retarded person, and then there’s not much disagreement in this thread.
Forwyn
Member
Tue Jan 22 16:08:06
"I have not watched any of the videos and find the veteran's statements to be credible."

Lol!
obaminated
Member
Tue Jan 22 16:10:09
jergul is a fucking moron, as is mountme but they also not american so we can dismiss them. but cuckhat is the problem. he lives here and is a dangerous useful idiot for the cancerous left.
Sam Adams
Member
Tue Jan 22 16:13:58
Lol fake vietnam vet is fake
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Tue Jan 22 16:25:59
So, basically everything about this story was fake.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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