Utopia Talk / Politics / Hungarian tax reform

Average Ameriacn Member	Mon Feb 11 15:34:13 We should copy this tax reform and in 50 years we would have a higher population than China!!! http://www...19/02/11/04701764-2e01-11e9-ac Hungary is so desperate for kids that mothers of four won’t need to pay income tax By Griff Witte February 11, 2019 at 11:30 AM Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban has built his political brand on saying “no” to immigration. But his stalwart resistance — when combined with an exodus of young workers and low birthrates — has created a demographic nightmare. Hungary’s population is shrinking, a trend that poses long-term risks for the economy. It has also caused short-term political trouble for Orban, who has had to enact unpopular labor laws to try to wring more hours from a declining workforce. Rather than rethink his immigration policies, the prime minister on Sunday doubled down on his preferred solution: Hungarian women need to have more babies. In his annual state of the nation address, Orban announced a slew of incentives to get his countrymen and women in a baby-making state of mind. Most dramatically, he said any woman who has four children or more will never have to pay income tax again. As he does with almost every speech, the right-wing and increasingly autocratic prime minister used the announcement to contrast his approach with that of Western Europe, and to take aim squarely at those who see any upside to immigration. “In all of Europe there are fewer and fewer children, and the answer of the West to this is migration,” Orban said. “They want as many migrants to enter as they are missing kids, so that the numbers will add up.” Hungary, he insisted, has a better answer: “We Hungarians have a different way of thinking. Instead of just numbers, we want Hungarian children. Migration for us is surrender.” In addition to the tax exemption for mothers of four or more, the prime minister offered state support for those buying seven-seat vehicles, mortgage relief for parents with multiple children and additional places at nursery schools. Orban did not say how the measures would be funded. The proposals still need parliamentary approval. But in Hungary, where Orban won a two-thirds parliamentary majority last spring to secure his fourth term, approval for the prime minister’s initiatives is all but guaranteed. This is not the first time Orban — who, with his wife, has five children — has tried to prod Hungarians into picking up the reproductive pace. Earlier in his tenure, he introduced a measure that offered families reduced taxes for every new child. He has said his current term is dedicated to solving the country’s demographic problems and that convincing women to have more children is at the heart of that effort. He vowed shortly after last year’s victory to “reach a comprehensive agreement with Hungarian women.” In the male-dominated world of Hungarian politics, he is doing so with little input from women themselves. There are more men named Laszlo (two) than there are women (one) in his cabinet. The lone female member has no portfolio, giving her little sway in a government that has moved aggressively on gender issues, including banning the funding for gender studies programs at Hungarian universities. Related: [‘This is fake democracy’: Hungarians march against government’s autocratic reach] Orban has explained the absence of women in top government jobs by suggesting they cannot handle the “stress” of the rough-and-tumble world that is Hungarian politics. Hungary’s fertility rate — 1.45 children per woman — is lower than the 1.58 average across the European Union. With large numbers of young Hungarians leaving the country in search of better wages and greater freedoms elsewhere in Europe, the population is steadily declining. Nearly 10 million today, it is projected to be just over 8 million by 2050. Other countries across Central and Eastern Europe are facing similar population declines. And other governments have discovered incentivizing child birth can be a politically popular way of addressing the problem. In Poland, the ruling Law and Justice party found favor with a plan to offer subsidies to families with two or more children.
Rugian Member	Mon Feb 11 15:43:06 Seems reasonable. Orban is a hero for Western civilization.
Paramount Member	Mon Feb 11 16:59:02 But what about the men? It is unfair and discriminating that only women will not need to pay taxes anymore. Men should not have to pay tax either. If a husband and wife name their first born child Orban, then that child should also never have to pay tax. If the people will honor their respected leader, it will help to make Hungary a great nation.
Pillz Member	Mon Feb 11 18:40:41 Can't even tell if that post is all or partially a troll, or entirely seriosut.
smart dude Member	Mon Feb 11 23:50:09 Either way it's entirely stupid.
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