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tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Feb 20 11:17:00
he's suing the Washington Post for $250 million (and it notes it's the 'first' of his lawsuits):


"
In order to fully compensate Nicholas for his damages and to punish, deter, and teach the Post a lesson it will never forget, this action seeks money damages in excess of Two Hundred and Fifty Million Dollars ($250,000,000.00) – the amount Jeff Bezos, the world’s richest person, paid in cash for the Post when his company, Nash Holdings, purchased the newspaper in 2013
"

full thing:
http://www...ruth-for-justice-for-nicholas/
obaminated
Member
Wed Feb 20 11:17:55
tw is siding with the media that lambasted a minor because they took the word of a liar. irony knows no bounds.
Average Ameriacn
Member
Wed Feb 20 11:25:21
I hope he wins and gifts the money to the wall.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Feb 20 11:34:12
I'd like to see the Post article... they claim the Post said the dick kid 'swarmed' and whatever else (yanking single words out), but that appears to be from a quote by the Native American. Quoting someone's account of an incident happens all the time.

And under no circumstances whatsoever does he deserve millions... you can improperly -kill- a black kid and it's 5 million.
Forwyn
Member
Wed Feb 20 11:50:18
"you can improperly -kill- a black kid and it's 5 million."

So? Should be more. Punitive damages against media giants should be high.
TJ
Member
Wed Feb 20 12:21:13
250 million to Bezos is like taking a pinch on the arm. Simply a moment of irritation.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Feb 20 12:33:58
They want $50+ million in compensatory damages

so even if you want excessive punitive money to go to asshole lawyers and the asshole kid, he still wants 10x the value of a black kids life for his 'suffering' from this incident that will have no effect on his future
obaminated
Member
Wed Feb 20 12:41:50
you are literally defending a media company over an innocent minor they did their best to destroy.
hood
Member
Wed Feb 20 12:41:59
"tw is siding with the media that lambasted a minor because they took the word of a liar. irony knows no bounds."

Meanwhile you want to punish an entity that did nothing illegal because of political reasons.

Throw the lawsuit out. Post did nothing worthy of being sued. Slap on some fines for the lawyers for being so egregiously retarded and agreeing to bring a frivolous lawsuit to court.
Average Ameriacn
Member
Wed Feb 20 12:45:45
Trump should invite him to the WH.

Maybe he could even adopt him?
Forwyn
Member
Wed Feb 20 12:51:19
The lawsuit claims The Post "ignored the truth" about the incident and says the paper "falsely accused Nicholas of ... 'accost[ing]' Phillips by 'suddenly swarm[ing]' him in a 'threaten[ing]' and 'physically intimidat[ing]' manner ... 'block[ing]' Phillips path, refusing to allow Phillips 'to retreat,' 'taunting the dispersing indigenous crowd,' [and] chanting, 'Build that wall,' 'Trump2020,' or 'Go back to Africa,' and otherwise engaging in racist and improper conduct. ..."Sandmann's attorneys accuse The Post of publishing seven "false and defamatory" articles about the incident between Jan. 19 and 21 and claim the paper "knew and intended that its false and defamatory accusations would be republished by others, including media outlets and others on social media."
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Feb 20 12:59:46
Trump already did invite

and that lawsuit is written by plaintiff lawyers (scum)...so it will be deliberately misleading... I didn't read any Post articles (it's a pay site and not wasting my free views on an asshole kid) but I imagine all those attacks are just quoting the Native American and that they probably never mentioned the kid's name unless also giving his account as well. (And they most likely -did- try to get his account)

Being photographed in a MAGA hat will be more damaging to his future than any Post story.
Forwyn
Member
Wed Feb 20 13:18:45
"scum"
"deliberately misleading"
"I imagine"
"probably never"
"most likely -did-"

Impressive word salad that does nothing but present a false timeline, make assumptions, and shit on a defamed minor.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Feb 20 13:24:01
it's as useful as what's written in the lawsuit

if someone else wants to dig up the actual articles to argue the case they are free to do so... nothing will change my mind to believe this kid deserves millions
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Feb 20 13:27:03
also 'deliberately misleading' is fact

that's what lawsuits are... both sides have the same facts but opposite conclusions, thus one or both sides (usually both) are deliberately misleading to sway the jury to their side

and since the prize is money, there's no reason for the plaintiff NOT to be deliberately misleading... if they convince the jury the defendant was even worse than reality, its just more money for them
Forwyn
Member
Wed Feb 20 13:37:02
"free to do so"

Ok, maybe

"nothing will change my mind"

Nah, nevermind, go back to your twitter circlejerk
Rugian
Member
Wed Feb 20 13:38:07
"Meanwhile you want to punish an entity that did nothing illegal because of political reasons."

I'm not familiar with the Post's specific coverage of this incident, but negligent defamation is most certainly a civil offense.
Wrath of Orion
Member
Wed Feb 20 13:45:35
They'll have to prove negligence on the part of the Post. That will be what the case hinges on.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Feb 20 13:47:26
"Nah, nevermind"

you could disprove my 'probably's so some possible value in looking if you actually think I'm wrong


to add to my "scum" declaration... the lawyers will take around half of those millions if they win... plus they will bill lawyers fees, which will be multiple hundreds of dollars per hour... and a 1-minute phone call or a thought about the case while sitting on the toilet will each count as an hour as they will round up the time.
(Plus just their entire job is to deliberately mislead in order to get maximum money as already established)
Camaban
The Overseer
Wed Feb 20 16:42:29
Long story short, there was a two hour video that showed the entire thing that the post and other media outlets didn't bother to watch.

The post is the start. So, so many people who didn't bother to do the basic due diligence before jumping into a fray that could have ruined these kid's lives.

I don't think it's worth 250 million for this, specifically, but I hope they get every cent to show the other media companies (who I'm sure would be on the receiving end of a storm of post funded lawsuits) just how fucking retarded an idea doing shit like this is.
hood
Member
Wed Feb 20 16:48:15
"negligent defamation is most certainly a civil offense."

True. But negligent defamation is such an extremely high standard to prove that it's a very conservative stance to just assume innocence. They would pretty much need to be caught with willful admission of negligence to peg the post with anything.

Pricing the damages at the exact value that Bezos paid for the Post is pretty damning that this is indeed politically motivated (despite the lawyers trying to preemptively deny it) and utterly ridiculous. I'm very willing to eat crow on this case if some miracle occurs and the kid wins anything. Defamation + media company is pretty much a slam dunk for the defendant (unless you're so utterly trash that you're literally gawker).
kargen
Member
Wed Feb 20 17:23:34
The lawyers are not expecting 250 million dollars if they win the case. Often a ruling is for less than requested. No way you will ever get more than what you ask for so ask for some silly amount hoping that will influence them to give more than what they might otherwise give.

I don't like that strategy. In Brazil if you sue and lose you could have to pay 20% of what you sued for to the opposing side. Putting something similar to that in place might cut down on frivolous lawsuits asking for ridiculous amounts of money.
hood
Member
Wed Feb 20 17:27:59
"The lawyers are not expecting 250 million dollars if they win the case."

No fucking shit. Inability to comprehend strikes again.
kargen
Member
Wed Feb 20 18:51:12
No it turns out I comprehend just fine. In fact you just fucking agreed with me. Of course it was a 50/50 shot so you were bound to eventually get one right.
hood
Member
Wed Feb 20 19:13:15
Considering literally everyone in the thread recognized that the $250 mil was a ridiculous demand, you clearly lack comprehension if you think anybody needed you to spell out that the lawyers didn't expect to actually get all of it.

You are retarded. Go home.
kargen
Member
Wed Feb 20 20:51:33
Yes I know all that. I wanted to comment beyond this single case and address the overall problem of frivolous lawsuits in the US. First I needed to set up my opinion. It is called leading in to the main point. Something used often by people who have more than two brain cells. Not surprising you are not familiar with this technique.

I will also point out for you that even though most in this thread have opined that the amount is ridiculous none before me stated this is a common tactic in civil courts. Sure most here probably know this is common practice but stating it applies context to the rest of my post.

Context of course being something alien to you. It's like you have a monochromatic brain in a world full of colors. You can't understand what others easily understand because it never registers.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Feb 20 21:30:20
the 20% rule would be a good idea (with it being on the lawyers not plaintiff)

and punitive damages should not go to the lawyers nor plaintiff
Y2A
Member
Wed Feb 20 21:31:49
Going after the free press like the Chavistas went after RCTV.
smart dude
Member
Wed Feb 20 22:08:41
But he had a smile on his face!!!!!!!!!!
kargen
Member
Wed Feb 20 22:32:43
This is one of those issues where I have mixed feelings. On one hand I think we would be better off if lawyers in civil courts got a set fee instead of a percentage of the penalty/settlement. Other side is I don't think government should be involved in saying what a person can charge for their service.
I also think any money awarded for mental anguish should go towards therapy to help end that anguish. That opens up a different type of abuse though I suppose.
smart dude
Member
Thu Feb 21 02:43:56
"Covington kid is worse than clock kid"

Uh, no. Covington kid did nothing wrong. Clock kid brought a hoax bomb to school.
Camaban
The Overseer
Thu Feb 21 03:45:42
Didn't clock kid bring a disassembled clock to school? It's been a while.

But if so, they committed the same crime. They allowed themselves to be observed by hysterical morons.
smart dude
Member
Thu Feb 21 05:00:32
The clock kid disassembled a clock and shoved it into a metal suit-cased shaped pencil box. Then he wired it shut and set the alarm to go off during class. He was then arrested for bringing a hoax bomb to school.

But the media narrative was more like this: SCHOOL ARRESTS MUSLIM TEENAGER FOR BUILDING A CLOCK AND BRINGING IT TO SCHOOL TO SHOW HIS TEACHERS!!

Of course, when all the facts came out the media lost interest. The the media was pro-student when the student was clearly a problem student.

The Covington case is very different. The media was anti-student but the student did nothing wrong.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Feb 21 10:53:52
clock kid only sued for $15 million

but removing lawsuits, i'll agree clock kid was more annoying
Forwyn
Member
Thu Feb 21 11:23:03
"and punitive damages should not go to the lawyers nor plaintiff"

Lulz. More money for the gubmint. I'm sure California could use the extra revenue
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Feb 21 11:37:14
we have 22 trillion in debt
Forwyn
Member
Thu Feb 21 11:59:48
With revenue exceeding 3 trillion. That's a spending problem, not a revenue problem.
smart dude
Member
Thu Feb 21 12:12:57
"clock kid only sued for $15 million"

Uhhh...On one hand you have a bad guy suing someone (the school) for calling him a bad guy . On the other hand you have an innocent person suing someone for calling him a bad guy. The dollar amount is irrelavant, obviously. Bob kills your dog and sues you for $1 because you said he did it. Alice doesn't kill your dog but you say she did and she sues you for $100. Is Alice worse simply because the dollar amount is more? Use your brain.
smart dude
Member
Thu Feb 21 12:13:09
"clock kid only sued for $15 million"

Uhhh...On one hand you have a bad guy suing someone (the school) for calling him a bad guy . On the other hand you have an innocent person suing someone for calling him a bad guy. The dollar amount is irrelavant, obviously. Bob kills your dog and sues you for $1 because you said he did it. Alice doesn't kill your dog but you say she did and she sues you for $100. Is Alice worse simply because the dollar amount is more? Use your brain.
hood
Member
Thu Feb 21 12:21:59
Your analogy is all around shit.
smart dude
Member
Thu Feb 21 12:26:02
"If the Goldmans and the Browns sued OJ Simpson for less money, that would make OJ more guilty!"

-Tumblweed, 2019
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Feb 21 12:26:29
i didn't really put careful analysis into my thread title :p

we should also weigh the kid wearing a maga hat which should sadden everyone... Trump is the first president some kids are noticing... & emulating... to the doom of society
smart dude
Member
Thu Feb 21 12:27:54
"Your analogy is all around shit."

Your commentary is all around shit. Durr your argument is shit = shit commentary. Try again. The analogy is fine.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Feb 21 12:34:35
your analogy is kinda shit as clock kid was never proven to be 'bad'... whether he personally found it amazing that he could move parts from one case to another is unknown
smart dude
Member
Thu Feb 21 12:42:27

The point is the clock kid sued the school for no goddamn reason.

Steps to get rich:
1. Bring hoax bomb to school.
2. ?????
3. Profit.

Media fawns over the poor innocent victim, faces no repurcussions. In facts get a shoutout from the president! Sues for 15m dollars.

The MAGA kid, on the other hand, (besides wearing a red hat and smiling), did nothing wrong and gets his reputation destroyed by clickbaity news outlets who dgaf about the actual, uh, context. They just want MUH CLICKS. He sues for 250m dollars.

So the MAGA kid is worse simply because the dollar amount is more??
smart dude
Member
Thu Feb 21 12:48:54
"never proven to be 'bad'"

As "bad" is subjective I guess, no, he was never proven to be bad. But it is indisputable that:

A: The kid deliberately brought a hoax bomb to school, or
B: The school police acted within reason to treat the device as a hoax bomb, as it checked all the boxes.

Not to mention that a teacher explicitly told the kid not to show anyone his "invention," but he did so anyway by setting it to go off during another class. Not to mention that the media insisted that he built the clock himself, and that the media insisted that the authorities thought the device was a bomb (they never thought that...it was considered a hoax bomb from the beginning).
smart dude
Member
Thu Feb 21 12:51:12
Beyond stating directly, "I have a hoax bomb," there is nothing that this kid could have done to indicate otherwise. I guess give him a pass, though? I mean we expell kids because they point chicken nuggets at classmates and yell "bang!" But if it's a Muslim then suddenly our usual outrage over zero tolerance disappears?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Feb 21 12:52:44
why is this relativeness so important?

and for the record, clock kid was detained by cops + Fox News i'm sure hated him... ("Father of 'Clock Kid' Linked to 9/11 Conspiracy Facebook Posts" is a Fox News headline)... technically most of my annoyance is in his claim he 'made' a clock & media accepting that concept

MAGA kid's reputation was only destroyed to the people who already would've hated him for wearing the maga hat (plus basically none of them would've known his name if he didn't come out & probably still don't know his name)... and he's a hero (w/ shoutout from the president) to the Fox News portion of the world
hood
Member
Thu Feb 21 13:03:00
""Your analogy is all around shit."

Your commentary is all around shit. Durr your argument is shit = shit commentary. Try again. The analogy is fine."

My my, aren't we testy? Claim as you might, your analogy is still shit. You mischaracterize the scope of misdeed (clock kid was accused of being a criminal, maga kid just of being an asshole), the scope of money, the scope of intent behind the lawsuit.
smart dude
Member
Thu Feb 21 13:04:28
"and he's a hero (w/ shoutout from the president)"

The fact that the idiot child president called MAGA boy a hero (he's not) doesn't cancel out the fact that Obama (an adult person) bungled the clock boy story.

"MAGA kid's reputation was only destroyed to the people who already would've hated him for wearing the maga hat"

A dangerous oversimplification. He's a internationally known person vilified by millions now because of a badly contextualized photograph taken at the wrong place at the wrong time. Clock boy brought this on himself by making a hoax bomb, bringing it to a school (post Columbine, mind you), and intentionally bringing attention to it.
smart dude
Member
Thu Feb 21 13:07:47
"You mischaracterize the scope of misdeed"

Hoax bomb at high school vs. MAGA hat, dude.

"the scope of money, the scope of intent behind the lawsuit."

Too much money, I agree and way out of proportion.
But we have a decidedly non-public figure maligned by a powerhouse media company owned by literally the wealthiest person in the world. Let's think about that.
smart dude
Member
Thu Feb 21 13:10:35
Jeff Bezos does a hit piece on me (and let's not pretend Bezos isn't ultimately responsible), and gets the narrative totally wrong? I don't give two shits about what some asshole thinks I'm entitled to. Online bullying is fine, I guess? If it's the WP? Because lazy journalists aren't interested in the real story? Because they didn't technically break the law? It's a sign of the times. I doubt I disagree much with either hood or TW, whom I usually agree with. But this is silly.
Forwyn
Member
Thu Feb 21 13:25:31
"technically most of my annoyance is in his claim he 'made' a clock & media accepting that concept"\

If only they gave Sandmann the same benefit of the doubt. Alas, wrong color.
smart dude
Member
Thu Feb 21 13:25:33
Thousands of column inches written about me. Millions of people focused on my face, which has become overnight a national symbol of hatred. Front page of national media everywhere. I don't give a shit if a few assholes on the right think I'm a hero. I'm fucked. I'm just a kid. Some asshole lawyer says I can cash in. You still going to judge me? I mean, shit! Let's calm down and have some perspective!
smart dude
Member
Thu Feb 21 13:27:40
"Oh it's okay that you were thrown under the bus so that 100s of websites can get some clicks. There's some racist assholes who think you are a hero. Embrace it!"

-morons
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Feb 21 13:30:01
"Obama bungled the clock boy story"

only from your opinion that he was going for a bomb hoax, not established fact


"He's a internationally known person vilified by millions"

his smirking side-face image might be... but i certainly wouldn't have recognized him from seeing his non-smirk face nor ever remembered his name, still don't... plus i know CNN (& presumably other real news orgs) covered the extended video & other revelations later when they came out so many have the correct info

this wasn't a Bezos hit piece, it was a perfect storm problem... social media was abuzz, normal media wanted in on the action, the school sold out the kids in their statement, so you had the appearance of having both sides of the story (i don't know if reporters would ask a school for the name of a minor... but i doubt a school would provide it even if they did)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Feb 21 13:34:22
i just googled 'Sandmann' as had no idea who Forwyn was talking about :p (although i'm not good w/ names in general)

also, that point isn't apt as clock kid's defense was already known by media... there was nothing for media to accept as maga kid hadn't spoken yet
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Feb 21 14:09:35
since smart dude agrees on the idiot child president and i don't want to be defending clock kid, i'll retract my thread title & accept clock kid as worse
obaminated
Member
Thu Feb 21 14:30:07
i didnt read a lot of hood's shit because it is pretty repetitive, basically his response is "you are a retard because i don't agree with you"

yah, no, fuck off, you are defending a corporation that shat all over the rights of a minor for political reasons.
hood
Member
Thu Feb 21 14:33:52
"Some asshole lawyer says I can cash in. You still going to judge me?"

For suing? No. For suing for that amount with very transparent pettiness baked into the complaint? Yes, yes I will. I can both be against (social)media mobs and outrageous lawsuits. I have the capacity. If the kid was suing for $10,000,000 well then ok fine. He'll almost undoubtedly lose, but whatever. For specifically citing the exact amount of money Bezos paid for the Post and suing at that amount, you can go fuck yourself.
hood
Member
Thu Feb 21 14:35:14
"shat all over the rights of a minor"

They did not.
obaminated
Member
Thu Feb 21 15:25:58
yeah, okay hood, when you grow up and have a kid and that kid goes through the same shit Nicholas Sandmann went through i am sure you will be like "yeah, thats life man!"
and not at all realizing that a minor got fucked in the ass by irresponsible media members.
hood
Member
Thu Feb 21 15:27:56
Plea to emotion? Kay. So you don't actually have any rights that were shat on?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Feb 21 15:32:45
they can fuck me in the ass for $250 million

he probably won't get 250 million but if it's a maga jury he might... or billions... the lawyers want 'not less than 250'... jury can decide any amount

bringing up Bezos seems an obvious ploy to get extra $$$ when there's basically no chance he was involved
obaminated
Member
Thu Feb 21 17:15:44
yeah i guess it kinda shows how desperate liberals are these days that they are literally comparing a kid who brought a prototypical bomb to school to a kid who literally did nothing besides smiling while a fake war vet was attempting to provoke him.

and yes, hood, your "you are a retard for disagreeing with me" slogan is getting tiresome. this kid got doxed by irresponsible media and you simply don't want to acknowledge it out of tribalism.
hood
Member
Thu Feb 21 17:41:35
"and yes, hood, your "you are a retard for disagreeing with me" slogan is getting tiresome"

Apparently, since you felt the need to make this comment again despite nobody responding to it. However, I do feel the need to correct it. The "slogan," as you call it, is "you're a retard for being wrong or retarded". In kargen's case, I pointed out that he's incredibly retarded for pointing out the obvious as if he was saying something profound.


"this kid got doxed by irresponsible media"

So first, didn't the kid out himself? Second, people on twitter were calling to dox him and I've routinely called such people retarded scum. Third, with him being a minor, no media outlet is going to publish his name w/o permission.

To support point 3:
"On January 20, 2019, the Post published online its fifth false and defamatory article entitled “Most young white men are much more open to diversity than older generations” (the “Fifth Article”). A true and correct copy of the Fifth Article is attached hereto as Exhibit H.
The Fifth Article emphasized Nicholas’ alleged involvement by stating that “one of their [the students’] members appeared to physically intimidate Nathan Phillips …”"

The document references the 5th article and notes that it does not identify maga kid by name but by his relation to the native drummer.

Then this:
"On January 21, 2019, the Post published in print its sixth false and defamatory article entitled “Fuller view emerges of conflict on Mall” (the “Sixth Article”). A true and correct copy of the Sixth Article is attached hereto as Exhibit I.
The Sixth Article was published in the Post’s Monday edition of its newspaper.
The Sixth Article references Nicholas by name."

Now the post finally names maga kid. On Jan 21. The kid's name was in the media on Jan 20. Clearly the Post did not dox maga kid.


"you simply don't want to acknowledge it out of tribalism."

No, I don't acknowledge it because it is false, at least for the purposes of this thread (which is about the Post). You, however, are letting your dripping vagina get in the way of actual fact and instead sling around generalized hate.

It is not my fault that you are wrong. I do not create facts. I just adhere to them.
obaminated
Member
Thu Feb 21 17:54:32
" I do not create facts. I just adhere to them." Not true at all. What facts do you adhere too? Because you seem to be completely ignoring the fact that a journalist/contributor of the Post, within hours of the original video being posted shared that on a public platform. And within the same day the Post gave an interview to Philips. All with zero interest in protecting the minors involved in the video, all to promote a generalized hatred due to political purpose.

Yeah, you know, if a minor is sexually assaulted, you don't put their face in the media. when a minor is politically assault, you, apparently have no problem with throwing them to the wolves. so, go fuck yourself.
obaminated
Member
Thu Feb 21 17:57:43
but i don't want to get bogged down in a pointless semantic argument with hood. i would rather highlight that TW genuinely thought it was a good comparison to compare a kid wearing a MAGA hat being harassed by racists and liars to a kid who purposely brought something that looked like a bomb to school.
kargen
Member
Thu Feb 21 18:00:12
"and yes, hood, your "you are a retard for disagreeing with me" slogan is getting tiresome."

don't take that away from hood it is his only play and has been for at least five years.

He posts something without first doing a couple of minutes research. Someone points out he fucked up and got shit wrong. He argues for a couple of posts then realized yep he fucked up. That is when he throws out the retard move.

Then he will take it farther and for the next several days he will follow whoever corrected him around and just post "you're a retard" for no reason other than he is still embarrassed about being proven wrong earlier.

He has been doing it for years so when you see the insult just chock it up as hood realizing he fucked up.
hood
Member
Thu Feb 21 18:24:56
"he will follow whoever corrected him around"

You have an extreme ego if you think I follow anyone around. I read threads. I respond. You're not significant enough to "follow."


"What facts do you adhere too?"

The fact that the post did not dox the kid.


"Because you seem to be completely ignoring the fact that a journalist/contributor of the Post, within hours of the original video being posted shared that on a public platform."

Sharing the video is not doxing. You seem to be moving goal posts.


"And within the same day the Post gave an interview to Philips."

This also is not doxing. Weird.


"All with zero interest in protecting the minors involved in the video, all to promote a generalized hatred due to political purpose."

Did I deny any of this? You made a pretty specific statement. Let me refresh your memory:
"this kid got doxed by irresponsible media"
and
"shat all over the rights of a minor"

They did neither. The video was already all over the internet.


"Yeah, you know, if a minor is sexually assaulted, you don't put their face in the media."

Sexual assault != public confrontation with protesters. You're retarded.


"when a minor is politically assault"

Politically assault[ed]? What the actual fuck? Now you're just making up nonsense.


"you, apparently have no problem with throwing them to the wolves."

At least you've abandoned this fucking nonsense that the media doxed maga kid. You know, actual factual information to be discussed. Wherein the facts are not on your side.

I have called the maga kid an asshole for exactly 1 reason:
the utterly outrageous and pointed price tag of his lawsuit.

I have also stated he is very unlikely to win anything as there was no impropriety (legally speaking) from the Post. The reason for calling the kid an asshole is undoubtedly opinion, but makes absolutely 0 judgment on him in any other sense. The second statement is again one of opinion, but well founding in fact and history.

My arguments with you have been entirely fact. Really, the issue here seems to be that you cannot separate emotion from fact and are jumping on my dick for stating facts you don't like.


"i would rather highlight that TW genuinely thought it was a good comparison to compare a kid wearing a MAGA hat being harassed by racists and liars to a kid who purposely brought something that looked like a bomb to school."

And he has stated that his comparison was entirely based on the price tag (and likely smugness that comes with it) of the lawsuit. With that specific frame of reference, yeah it's a fine comparison. Clock kid sued for a "reasonable" $10 million. Maga kid is suing for an unreasonable $250 million.
swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Sat Mar 02 05:33:47
WaPo issues correction to Covington kids story – 6 weeks & 1 lawsuit later

http://www...-correction-covington-lawsuit/
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