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tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Feb 20 21:20:29
"Empire" actor Jussie Smollett has been charged with disorderly conduct for allegedly filing a false report claiming two men attacked him last month, a Chicago Police Department spokesman tweeted Wednesday night.

Filing a false police report is disorderly conduct, according to Illinois code. A class 4 felony is punishable by one to three years, the code says.

http://www...sie-smollett-attack/index.html
Y2A
Member
Wed Feb 20 21:29:32
Is there any info on why this guy would do something so stupid?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Feb 20 21:42:13
I don't believe any definitive motive yet

Although he's also believed to have hoaxed an earlier death threat letter that said only "you will die black fag" so I don't think smearing Trump fans was a primary motive (as someone with crazy opinions about presidential behavior has suggested)
kargen
Member
Wed Feb 20 22:10:46
A CBS report suggested the police have the magazine that was used to create the threatening letter. It was found in the two brothers apartment. There was a white powder in the letter so a hazmat team was dispatched.

The letter may be more concerning for Smollett than the fake attack. Because of the white substance (now known to be aspirin) because that involves a federal crime. He could be charged with simulating a terrorist attack.

Speculation on motive pretty much runs the gamut. I've heard on various talking head shows today that he was trying to highlight an obvious racist and homophobic atmosphere in the country today to he was trying to start a race war.

Some speculated since he has an album coming out he wanted his name out there in the spot light before the release. Another is he wanted to appear the hero. He said in a statement he fought the two men off. One person has said he picked the location for the attack thinking it would be caught on camera but the camera turned out to be facing the wrong way. Smollett mentioned looking up at the camera at least twice.
Juan Williams on the Five at Five has suggested maybe Smollett is mentally unstable and probably shouldn't be charged with a crime but instead get the help he needs.

If I had to bet money on a motive I would bet on self promotion.
obaminated
Member
Wed Feb 20 22:36:37
he lives in a time where he thought he could get away with smearing half the population. fuck him.
Y2A
Member
Wed Feb 20 22:52:50
Yeah seems like it could be a mix of publicity stunt gone wrong and mental health problems.
hood
Member
Wed Feb 20 23:01:26
So a fine and some community service? Joy.
Y2A
Member
Thu Feb 21 00:34:37
Even if he gets some small penalty his career is over. He just threw away his lottery ticket.
swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Thu Feb 21 10:19:48
http://zh-...ine-images/Dz7sbS-WkAEgw5A.jpg
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Feb 21 12:47:05
Chicago PD says he did it as he was “dissatisfied with his salary” on the Fox series “Empire.”

^based on what the 2 accomplices said, i believe... (i didn't see the press conference)
obaminated
Member
Thu Feb 21 14:33:26
again, fuck him.
Rugian
Member
Thu Feb 21 15:30:45
Here Are 21 Fake Hate Crime Hoaxes Promoted by the Left Since Trump Took Office

By Peter Hasson
Published February 18, 2019 at 5:19pm
Modified February 19, 2019 at 4:20pm

Liberal actor Jussie Smollett is accused of staging a racist and anti-gay attack on himself, which Smollett blamed on supporters of President Donald Trump.

Smollett’s alleged fake “hate crime” appears to be the latest instance of liberals manufacturing hate crimes for attention in the Trump era.

The Daily Caller News Foundation compiled below some of the most outrageous fake hate crimes since Trump was elected, roughly in chronological order:

Anti-Muslim Hate Crime In Michigan Turns Out To Be A Hoax (Nov. 2016)

A Muslim woman at the University of Michigan received national attention from national outlets like The Washington Post in November 2016 after she claimed a drunk 20-something man threatened to light her on fire if she didn’t remove her hijab. The university condemned the “hateful attack,” which turned out to be a hoax.

Bisexual Student Fakes Trump-Inspired Hate Crime (Nov. 2016)

Taylor Volk, an openly bisexual senior at North Park University claimed to be the target of hateful notes and emails following Trump’s election in November 2016. Volk told NBC News that “I just want them to stop.” But the “them” referenced by Volk turned out to be herself, as the whole thing was fabricated.

Gas Station Racism Goes Viral — Then Police Debunk It (Nov. 2016)

Philadelphia woman Ashley Boyer claimed in November 2016 that she was harassed at a gas station by white, Trump-supporting males, one of whom pulled a weapon on her. Boyer claimed that the men “proceeded to talk about the election and how they’re glad they won’t have to deal with n—–s much longer.” Boyer deleted her post after it went viral and claimed the men had been caught and were facing criminal charges. Local police debunked her account.

White Men Rob Muslim Woman Of Her Hijab And Wallet — Except It Never Happened (Nov. 2016)

An 18-year-old Muslim woman in Louisiana claimed in November 2016 that two white men, one of whom was wearing a Trump hat, attacked and robbed her, taking her wallet and hijab while yelling racial slurs. She later admitted to the Lafayette Police Department that she made the whole thing up.

Church Organist Vandalizes Own Church (Nov. 2016)

A church organist was arrested in May 2017 after he was found responsible for spray-painting a swastika, an anti-gay slur and the words “Heil Trump” on his own church in November 2016. When the story first broke, media outlets tied the hoax to Trump’s election. “The offensive graffiti at St. David’s is among numerous incidents that have occurred in the wake of Trump’s Election Day win,” The Washington Post reported at the time.

“Drunk White Men” Attack Muslim Woman In Story That Also Never Happened (Dec. 2016)

Another 18-year-old Muslim woman, this time in New York, was the subject of breathless headlines in December 2016 after she claimed to have been attacked by a group of Donald Trump supporters on a New York subway while onlookers did nothing. The woman, Yasmin Seweid, would go on to confess that she made the whole thing up.

White Guy Sets His Own Car On Fire, Paints Racial Slur On His Own Garage (Dec. 2016)

Denton, Texas, resident David Williams set his own car on fire and painted “n***** lovers” on his home’s garage, in an apparent attempt to stage a hate crime. Local police investigated the arson as a hate crime. Williams and his wife, Jenny, collected more than $5,000 from Good Samaritans via a GoFundMe page before the hoax was exposed.

Prankster Tricks Liberal Journalist Into Spreading Anti-Trump Hoax (Dec. 2016)

As tales of Trump-inspired “hate crimes” were spread far and wide by liberal journalists after Trump’s election, one online prankster decided to test just easy it was to fool journalists. The prankster sent Mic.com writer Sarah Harvard a fictitious story in which a Native American claimed to have been harassed by an alleged Trump supporter who thought she was Mexican. Despite no evidence backing up the claim, Harvard spread the fake story, emails the prankster shared with The Daily Caller showed.

Student Writes Anti-Muslim Graffiti On His Own Door (Feb. 2017)

A Muslim student at Beloit College wrote anti-Muslim graffiti on his own dorm room door. The student was reportedly motivated by a desire to seek attention after a Jewish student was targeted with an anti-Semitic note.

Israeli Man Behind Anti-Semitic Bomb Threats in the U.S. (April 2017)

Media outlets didn’t wait to find out who was behind a string of bomb threats targeting synagogues and Jewish schools before linking the threats to Trump. A U.S.-Israeli man was charged in April 2017 and indicted in February 2018 for the threats. A former reporter for The Intercept was also charged in March 2017 with making several copycat threats.

Hoax at St. Olaf (May 2017)

Students at St. Olaf college in Minnesota staged protests and boycotted classes in May 2017 after racist notes targeting black students were found around campus, earning coverage in national media outlets like The Washington Post. It later came out that a black student was responsible for the racist notes. The student carried out the hoax in order to “draw attention to concerns about the campus climate,” the university announced.

Fake Hate At Air Force Academy Goes Viral (Sept. 2017)
The Air Force Academy was thrown into turmoil in September 2017 when horrific racist notes were found at the academy’s preparatory school. “Go home n***er,” read one of the notes. The superintendent, Lt. Gen. Jay B. Silveria, went viral with an impassioned speech addressing the racist notes.

“If you can’t treat someone with dignity and respect–then you need to get out.”-Lt. Gen. Jay B. Silveria, Superintendent @AF_Academy pic.twitter.com/njCktv5Fmp

— U.S. Air Force (@usairforce) September 28, 2017

Two months later, authorities determined that one of the students targeted by the notes was also the person responsible for writing them.

K-State Fake Hate Crime (Nov. 2017)

A student at Kansas State University filed a police report in November 2017 over racist graffiti left on his car. “Go Home N***** Boy” and “Whites Only,” read the racist graffiti, which the the student later admitted to writing himself.

Racist Graffiti Carried Out By Non-White Student (Nov. 2017)

Another instance of racist graffiti that same month also turned out to be a hoax. A Missouri high school investigated after racial slurs were left on a bathroom mirror in November 2017, only to find that the student responsible was “non-white.”

Waiter Fakes Note Calling Himself A Terrorist (July 2018)

Texas waiter Khalil Cavil went viral after posting a Facebook picture of a racist note that he claimed a customer had left on the receipt, in lieu of a tip. The note described Cavil as a “terrorist.” Saltgrass Steak House, where Cavil worked, initially banned the customers for life, before their investigation revealed that the waiter had faked the racist note. “I did write it,” Cavil later admitted. “I don’t have an explanation. I made a mistake. There is no excuse for what I did.”

Waitress Fakes Racist Note, Blames Law Enforcement (July 2018)

A Texas waitress apologized in July 2018 after blaming local law enforcement for an offensive note targeting Mexicans. She later admitted to writing the note herself.

New York Woman’s Hate Crime That Wasn’t (Sept. 2018)

A New York woman was charged in September 2018 after police determined she fabricated a story about white teens yelling racial slurs at her and leaving a racist note on her car.

Student Faked Racist Notes (Dec. 2018)

Several racist notes at Drake University were actually the work of one of the students who had been targeted by them. “The fact that the actions of the student who has admitted guilt were propelled by motives other than hate does not minimize the worry and emotional harm they caused, but should temper fears,” university president Marty Martin said afterwards.

The Covington Catastrophe (Jan. 2019)

National media outlets pounced on a selectively edited video from the March for Life that showed Native American activist Nathan Phillips beating a drum in front of a boisterous group of boys from Covington Catholic High School.

Phillips originally told The Washington Post the students swarmed him while he was preparing to leave the Indigenous People’s March scheduled for the same day. Phillips originally said one student, who later identified himself as high school junior Nick Sandmann, blocked his path from leaving as he tried to do so. The extended video shows that wasn’t the case: Phillips approached the high school boys during their cheers, not the other way around. Some of the people with Phillips were directing racially charged language at the students, not the other way around.

Phillips told a second variation of his story to the Detroit Free Press. Phillips claimed he was playing the role of peacemaker by getting between the students and four “old black individuals,” whom he claimed the students were attacking. “They were in the process of attacking these four black individuals,” Phillip told the Michigan paper. “I was there and I was witnessing all of this … As this kept on going on and escalating, it just got to a point where you do something or you walk away, you know? You see something that is wrong and you’re faced with that choice of right or wrong.”

“These young men were beastly and these old black individuals was their prey, and I stood in between them and so they needed their pounds of flesh and they were looking at me for that,” he added. Extended video shows that account also isn’t accurate. The four individuals Phillips referenced were members of the Black Hebrew Israelites and they launched racist and anti-gay slurs at the high school students, not the other way around.

Bonus: Anti-Semitic Vandal Exposed As Democratic Activist (Nov. 2018)

Anti-Semitic vandalism turns out to be the work of a Democratic activist. It wasn’t a hoax — the anti-Semitic vandalism was real — but the perpetrator wasn’t the right-winger some had assumed him to be.

Bonus II: Trump-Inspired Racist Blaze At Black Church Was Carried Out By Black Church-goer (Nov. 2016)

This hoax occurred one week before Trump was elected, but TheDCNF is including it as a bonus because it was so egregious. Leftist media outlets ran headlines like “A Black Church Burned in the Name of Trump” after a black church in Greenville, Mississippi, was set on fire and spray painted with the words “Vote Trump.” The Washington Post’s original coverage of the incident read in part, “Greenville Mayor Errick Simmons called the fire a ‘hateful and cowardly act,’ sparked by the incendiary rhetoric of GOP nominee Donald Trump during his presidential campaign.” But the church was set on fire by one of the church’s own congregants, who is black.

http://www...st-hoax-hate-crimes-trump-era/
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Feb 21 16:00:24
from FBI hate crime stats via some clicking here: http://www.fbi.gov/investigate/civil-rights/hate-crimes
2013 Total incidents: 5,928
2014 Total incidents: 5,479
2015 Total incidents: 5,850
2016 Total incidents: 6,121
2017 Total incidents: 7,175

(i didn't see a 2018 there)

so... 21 hoaxes doesn't cover the increase very much, but yeah, people shouldn't do hoaxes (or falsely accuse perceived political opponents of crimes on twitter while being the President)
obaminated
Member
Thu Feb 21 17:17:19
"hate crimes" are just crimes committed by whites on non whites.
Camaban
The Overseer
Thu Feb 21 17:31:11
>>Chicago PD says he did it as he was “dissatisfied with his salary” on the Fox series “Empire.” <<

He'd better be hoping his pay was worse than he'd get at Starbucks.

Otherwise, no way this leads to a pay increase.
kargen
Member
Thu Feb 21 18:07:42
There was an increase of 1,054 hate crimes from 2016 to 2017.
There were also 1,000 more agencies that began reporting hate crimes. Some agencies do not differentiate between crime and hate crime. So if each new agency reported one hate crime that almost covers the increase.

It might be that hate crimes are not actually increasing but are being recognized as hate crimes when in 2016 they were not. I couldn't find numbers of agencies reporting in 2015 to see if increased agencies reporting also could have caused the 20150-16 increase.
TJ
Member
Thu Feb 21 18:28:57
If the Illinois felony is proven, it might be the least of his concerns. He could possibly be facing federal charges.
obaminated
Member
Thu Feb 21 19:07:18
to be honest, i didn't think he was ever going to be charged for any of this. i thought for sure the media and courts would buy that he was just doing this out or performance art and to make a political point. i thought he would, at worst, pay a fine. now he looks incredibly likely to go to jail for this. and the fact that he may face federal charges for this is also crazy, but justified.
hood
Member
Thu Feb 21 19:33:34
I mean, put the fuck in jail. That'd be great. There's still a trial to go through, however, and commuted sentencing is still very much on the table.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Feb 21 21:34:46
he's maintaining innocence and this would be on the more egregious side of that criminal charge so I'd expect high sentence more likely than commutation if he's found guilty

and if federal charges, Trump will be improperly demanding max... cause he's unfit for office. (that's right I worked him in again :p)
kargen
Member
Thu Feb 21 22:15:11
I doubt Smollett is going to run for any office but I agree he is unfit for office whatever it might be.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Feb 21 22:34:38
why? Smollett hasn't created any laws for which to object nor provenly broken the law yet
kargen
Member
Thu Feb 21 23:15:44
well he is about to be a felon I'm pretty sure. I might be jumping ahead a bit. Soon though...
smart dude
Member
Fri Feb 22 00:37:10
Is kargen being dense on purpose, or did he just misread TW's post? I can't even tell.
Cherub Cow
Member
Fri Feb 22 00:44:17
I read it as dense on purpose... I mean, Kargen isn’t Jergul; Kargen is literate.
kargen
Member
Fri Feb 22 01:16:32
tumbleweed and I have carried the is President Trump fit for office argument across several threads now with neither of us moving a bit in our opinions. So I went a different way in this thread.
patom
Member
Fri Feb 22 07:32:47
Y2A, "Is there any info on why this guy would do something so stupid?"

C'mon man. Think Kardashians or most every actor or entertainer. Put their names in headlines is what they do. There is NO such thing as bad publicity for most of them.
swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Fri Feb 22 07:42:04
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dzy3M8nWoAkexLm.jpg
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Feb 22 11:14:06
maybe the mountain lion did... go Penn State!
TJ
Member
Fri Mar 08 17:14:45
http://chi...mollett-grand-jury-indictment/

CHICAGO (CBS) — Jussie Smollett is now facing deeper legal troubles after a grand jury returned 16 felony counts against the actor for falsely reporting a hate crime attack against him in January.

The grand jury returned the disorderly conduct charges on Thursday. He is scheduled to be arraigned on March 14. The specific allegations–“false report of offense”– are Class 4 felonies.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Mar 08 17:17:13
so now we will get articles saying he faces 48 years in prison (which won't happen obviously)
obaminated
Member
Fri Mar 08 20:05:31
year 5 decades is extreme. put him away for a few years, his career is dead and he will have to restart his life, hopefully with a new outlook at the world and his relation to it.
Sam Adams
Member
Sat Mar 09 06:06:55
Ya a few years is fair. But that's the product of the soft modern leftist justice system.. need to charge for decades to get a few years.
swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Tue Mar 26 10:25:59
Smollett Charges Dropped After "Emergency Court Appearance"

http://www...ter-emergency-court-appearance
Rugian
Member
Tue Mar 26 10:31:31
What the fuck?
hood
Member
Tue Mar 26 10:42:50
Hah. And who was it that thought this guy would face any legit consequences?
Rugian
Member
Tue Mar 26 10:46:14
We need to wait for answers, but right now Chicago looks like the most corrupt shithole of all time.
hood
Member
Tue Mar 26 10:49:24
Their story seems to be that everyone was wrong and Smuglett didn't do nothin. I mean, if that's the case then whatever. Fuck internet outage pressure. But it seemed pretty likely that the actor was lying.
Rugian
Member
Tue Mar 26 11:01:00
He and his lawyers are going to make a statement soon


Rumors that the speech will start with "I'm a black Hollywood actor with connections to the Obama's, how'd y'all ignorant fools think I was ever going to face justice" have not yet been confirmed
obaminated
Member
Tue Mar 26 11:10:30
Chicago is shit.
murder
Member
Tue Mar 26 11:13:23

Ridiculous!

Pillz
Member
Tue Mar 26 11:17:37
Rofl america
Rugian
Member
Tue Mar 26 11:21:16
From four days ago:

"
PAGE SIX
Cops call for federal probe related to Obama aide involvement in Jussie Smollett case
By Lia Eustachewich

March 22, 2019 | 9:38am

Jussie Smollett arrives at the Leighton Criminal Court Building.
Jussie Smollett arrives at the Leighton Criminal Court Building.
Reuters
Chicago’s police union has demanded a federal investigation into the county’s top prosecutor for allegedly interfering in the Jussie Smollett case after being contacted by Michelle Obama’s former chief of staff.

The Fraternal Order of Police, which represents the department’s rank-and-file, sent a letter earlier this week asking the Department of Justice to probe Cook County State’s Attorney Kim Foxx, according to ABC 7 Chicago.

Foxx tried to convince Police Superintendent Eddie Johnson to turn Smollett’s case over to the FBI — after Tina Tchen, the former senior Obama aide, reached out to her, saying the “Empire” star’s family had “concerns.”

“That recusal is wholly insufficient,” FOP president Kevin Graham said in a statement. “In order for Ms. Foxx to properly charge and try this case, her entire office should have recused itself and a special prosecutor been appointed.”"

http://www...t-in-jussie-smollett-case/amp/

Something here stinks to high heaven.
patom
Member
Tue Mar 26 11:21:23
Someone in either the DA's office or the CPD fucked up royally and thus it would be better to drop everything now than face the embarrassment that they would face in court.
Rugian
Member
Tue Mar 26 11:31:35
Wikipedia has some interesting info on the state's attorney:

"Kimberly M. Foxx[2] (née Anderson; April 1972) is a ghetto monkey and racist American politician who takes bribes and dismisses any charges against wealthy black individuals, currently serving as the State's Attorney for Cook County, Illinois. As such she manages the nation's second largest prosecutor's office and oversees an office of over nearly 800 attorneys and 1,500 employees. She was elected to this position on November 8, 2016. She is the second African American, after Cecil A. Partee, to hold this position.[3]"

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Foxx
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Mar 26 11:36:46
it was:

"rabid Leftist and racist" instead of "ghetto monkey and racist" when i clicked... much more PC
swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Tue Mar 26 11:48:54
Smollett has had sex with Obama.
he has proof.
Obama doesn't want that to come out.
swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Tue Mar 26 11:51:22
also, Smollett is not a ham sandwich.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Mar 26 11:51:24
there was a Chicago police chief or somebody who came out angry & ripping into Smollett & media back when the charges were made so hopefully we get some substantial explanation
smart dude
Member
Tue Mar 26 11:56:27
No explanation. Records sealed. My guess is he did it but someone fucked up hard during the investigation and compromised the evidence. Meanwhile his lawyer is one of The entire thing just seems totally weird. Meanwhile Smollett's lawyer is an Avenetti co-conspirator and the prosecutor who initially recused herself jumped back into the case. LOL you cant make this shit up.


Anyway I still dont even know who this guy is so dont really care.
smart dude
Member
Tue Mar 26 11:58:25
I don't know if I should be happy that the black man caught a break or outraged that another rich celebrity evaded the law. It is like OJ all over again (well, without the murders).
smart dude
Member
Tue Mar 26 12:04:00
"The Cook County State's Attorney's office said in a statement: 'After reviewing all of the facts and circumstances of the case, including Mr Smollett's volunteer service in the community and agreement to forfeit his bond to the City of Chicago, we believe this outcome is a just disposition and appropriate resolution to this case'"

What the literal fuck? Are is this for real? Literally they are saying he gave money to the city and he did volunteer service, so his indictment by a GRAND JURY has been rejected? Holy Jesus Baloney.
swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Tue Mar 26 12:05:46
he PEGGED Obama and Obama called in some favours!!!!
hood
Member
Tue Mar 26 12:30:55
"What the literal fuck? Are is this for real? Literally they are saying he gave money to the city and he did volunteer service, so his indictment by a GRAND JURY has been rejected? Holy Jesus Baloney."

So I literally called it. Community service and a fine. Just not the way anyone expected.

I wouldn't object to the Cook County DA finding themselves in a world of hurt.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Mar 26 12:44:53
the angry cop guy and mayor Rahm are upset with this (press conference on now), clearly still believe he was guilty and getting off easy
murder
Member
Tue Mar 26 12:56:41

This took some amazing brass balls on someone's part. They just threw out a grand jury indictment because someone felt like it with not so much as a justification.

I'm all for the federal government investigating this and charging Smollette federally.

Rugian
Member
Tue Mar 26 13:29:59
Okay, I'm going full CT nutter here, but:


-The Chicago mayoral runoff election is exactly a week from today. That's a pretty big coincidence

-Kim Foxx, as it turns out, was elected to Stste's attorney in 2016 thanks to the decision by the Cook County Democratic Party to dump the then-incumbent Anita Alvarez (also a Democrat) and endorse her instead

-The Cook County Democratic Party is largely under the thumb of Toni Preckwinkle, the President of the Cook County Board. Local media describes her as a "clout-heavy, aggressive queenmaker" and it was her support of Fox in 2016 that caused the party to dump Alvarez. There was even speculation at the time that Fox would be Preckwinkle's "puppet" if elected: http://www...s-states-attorney-endorsement/

-Preckwinkle is currently one of the candidates in next week's runoff election for mayor

-Preckwinkle is also a major racial demogogue: she regularly attacks the police for killing black people and her supporters have made some pretty inflammatory statements during the campaign (for example last weekend a US rep said that anyone voting for Preckwinkle's opponent would “have the blood of the next young black man or black woman” killed by police on their hands)

--------

What does this all mean? I have no fucking idea. All I know is that every single politician in Chicago should be executed.
Sam Adams
Member
Tue Mar 26 13:46:11
I mean you have an entire city that lets criminals run free and hates white people.

Faking a white hate crime probably gets you a key to the city in that shithole.
Sam Adams
Member
Tue Mar 26 13:46:51
The obamas were involved too? Lol! This takes corruption to a new level.
hood
Member
Tue Mar 26 13:52:26
O.o is that actually a thing you saw, Sam, or are you just misinterpreting someone mentioning an associate of the Obama's being involved?
Sam Adams
Member
Tue Mar 26 14:06:49
If Rahm is calling you corrupt, you must be really, really dirty.
Sam Adams
Member
Tue Mar 26 14:07:31
Ya i think its the Obama associate thing hood.
hood
Member
Tue Mar 26 14:10:00
If it was actual Obamas, would that make this the bengayzi scandal?
Rugian
Member
Tue Mar 26 14:12:36
^you just joined the list of people needing to be executed with than pun. groan
hood
Member
Tue Mar 26 14:13:50
Look old man,
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Mar 26 14:13:59
Preckwinkle?
murder
Member
Tue Mar 26 14:17:55

Obama threw Kanye West under the bus for stealing the spotlight from Taylor Swift. He wouldn't soil his legacy for this idiot faking a hate crime.

murder
Member
Tue Mar 26 14:20:10

"Preckwinkle?"

Prickwanker



kargen
Member
Tue Mar 26 14:42:12
The prosecutors in the case have given a statement saying they still think Smollett lied and this decision does not exonerate Smollett in any way. It just means they decided not to prosecute.
smart dude
Member
Tue Mar 26 14:56:28
Well, a little bit early but I'm going to call it now. Instead of Smollett being a world of shit, now it looks like some public officials are in a world of shit. Get your popcorn ready.
murder
Member
Tue Mar 26 16:11:35

"The prosecutors in the case have given a statement saying they still think Smollett lied and this decision does not exonerate Smollett in any way. It just means they decided not to prosecute."

"He's guilty as hell, but we decided to let him get away with it."

kargen
Member
Tue Mar 26 18:34:13
Now the prosecutors office is saying since it was a nonviolent offense and he is an upstanding member of society they felt forfeiting his bond was punishment enough.

Police are still pissed the case was sealed yet Smollett's attorney was allowed to make a statement.
hood
Member
Tue Mar 26 19:50:24
Upstanding members of the community don't file false police reports. DA needs a proverbial spanking. The kind that draws blood.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Mar 26 21:37:36
the problem might be that someone else called police, and Jussie told the police he was attacked... so even if he arranged for the attack it's still a true statement to cops

I dunno if that's part of it, but his attorney made a point to say those two things....'he was attacked' and 'someone else called'
kargen
Member
Tue Mar 26 21:52:16
Someone else may have called but he still filed the report. All the details he provided would be submitting a false report.
His attorney is now saying since the two brothers confessed to the attack they should be charged with the attack.
Had the news on behind me most the day on an assortment of channels and didn't hear much about the letter he mailed that the FBI is looking into.

obaminated
Member
Tue Mar 26 21:59:12
well, hopefully the fbi goes after him. really disappointing to see just how corrupt and shitty chicago is.
hood
Member
Tue Mar 26 22:07:59
Someone's gotta compete with congress.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Mar 26 22:45:28
police report on attack is here for anyone interested, narrative on page 2:
http://www...ie-Smollett-police-report.html

not sure he technically is the one filing the report if he's just answering questions of the responding officers (who were responding to someone else's call)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Mar 26 22:47:01
... well, on page 3... ithe place with lots of words :p
obaminated
Member
Tue Mar 26 22:57:24
pretty sure you can file a police report on behalf of someone else, so he definitely told them that he wanted to file a report about being attacked and nearly lynched.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Mar 26 23:24:29
there's pronoun trouble in the report... it says:

"he related to R/O's that victim did not want to report offense however he believed it to be in the best interest to"

the first 'he' is the person who called, not sure about the second 'he'... i would guess still the caller

however, all of this is speculation on my part... if it was a technicality the DA probably would've said so

so... probably some corrupt reason
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Mar 26 23:30:11
although... Smolett's lawyer did make that point to note it was someone else who called, so not sure why she'd note it if it wasn't relevant... but i didn't see her full interview just caught the end

it was on Don Lemon tonight, lawyer was a black woman... i don't really care enough to hunt it down & watch it all :p

obaminated
Member
Tue Mar 26 23:31:00
typos i meant i am pretty sure you cant* file a report on behalf of anyone else, you can only do it for yourself.
murder
Member
Wed Mar 27 09:29:12

"although... Smolett's lawyer did make that point to note it was someone else who called, so not sure why she'd note it if it wasn't relevant... but i didn't see her full interview just caught the end"

It doesn't matter who called the police. You can't lie to the cops. You can't file a false report.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Mar 27 11:25:05
well the point would be maybe he didn't lie... if he didn't call, he's not reporting the crime

and in report he notes he was attacked, and some details so all could be true

but like i said, i dunno if that had anything to do with it... just seemed odd to me as everyone still thinks he faked it... yet the lawyer wasn't admitting to that, and noted he was attacked, he didn't call police, & some other things i don't remember :p


i guess we'll have to leave it up to Fake News reporters to figure it out
smart dude
Member
Wed Mar 27 11:57:13
Confessed attackers were seen on CCTV buying ski masks (black guys).

Prosecutor (friend of the family) recused herself and suddenly reentered the fray.

Documents are sealed.

Mayor and PD are pissed.

Lawyer is implicated in corruption case.

Chicago is Chicago.

Former defendant is a rich celebrity.

He forfeited his 5-figure bond.

Oh he is definitely innocent.
hood
Member
Wed Mar 27 12:59:04
Prosecutors even admitted that they believe Smollett is guilty. They simply decided not to prosecute.

Source:
http://www...es-dropped-20190326-story.html

There were sound clips played on the radio with a little more than what's in that article, but it covers it well enough. DA just decided to not prosecute a criminal. If it didn't smell so foul, it really wouldn't be a big deal. But it stinks of corruption and influence (especially the city keeping the bond), so burn them all.
swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Wed Mar 27 14:01:21
Chicago PD Quickly Dump Smollett Hate-Hoax Docs Before Case Sealed By Judge

http://www...te-hoax-docs-case-sealed-judge
swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Wed Mar 27 14:01:21
Chicago PD Quickly Dump Smollett Hate-Hoax Docs Before Case Sealed By Judge

http://www...te-hoax-docs-case-sealed-judge
swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Thu Mar 28 07:32:57
Jussie Smollett's attorney slams Chicago Police Department for releasing 'one-sided' reports

http://www...or-releasing-one-sided-reports
obaminated
Member
Thu Mar 28 09:42:13
Trump should hire Bob Mueller to investigate Illinois politicians. Thatd be such a gangster move.
hood
Member
Thu Mar 28 10:29:55
Illinois DA, maybe.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Thu Mar 28 14:08:50
CHICAGO (AP) — President Donald Trump tweeted Thursday that the FBI and Department of Justice will review the “outrageous” case of actor Jussie Smollett in Chicago, calling it an “embarrassment” to the country.

The Saga continues

:)
kargen
Member
Thu Mar 28 14:56:13
Now they are saying the documents were sealed by accident and they welcome the documents being unsealed. Might be too late though because some are saying the documents no longer exist.
obaminated
Member
Thu Mar 28 15:14:08
If trump sends this guy to jail I'll vote for him in 2020. Straight up gangster move.
smart dude
Member
Thu Mar 28 21:14:09
lol. Oops. We accidentally sealed the documents. Then we accidentally threw them away. But we would totally unseal them if we still had them!
Pillz
Member
Fri Mar 29 05:43:18
Lol
smart dude
Member
Fri Mar 29 09:22:47
My guess is Smollett will walk, but his career will suffer. But in the DA's office heads will roll. Apparently the FBI is investigating this. Popcorn engaged.
Sam Adams
Member
Fri Mar 29 11:59:51
Trump 2020!
kargen
Member
Fri Mar 29 14:04:28
What Smollett really needs to fear is his lack of credibility. He better hope some white power nut doesn't figure out he is a basically a free hate crime waiting to happen. If Smollett is attacked for real no way anybody is going to believe him. Knowing that he probably better look over his shoulder often.
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