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tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Mar 07 12:08:32
[thread dedicated to fan kargen]

tweets starting a week ago:

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"Michael Cohen’s book manuscript shows that he committed perjury on a scale not seen before."

"Virtually everything failed lawyer Michael Cohen said in his sworn testimony last week is totally contradicted in his just released manuscript for a book about me. It’s a total new love letter to “Trump” and the pols must now use it rather than his lies for sentence reduction!"

"The brand new manuscript for a new book by failed lawyer Michael Cohen shows his testimony was a total lie! Pundits should only use it."

"The hostile Cohen testimony, given by a liar to reduce his prison time, proved no Collusion! His just written book manuscript showed what he said was a total lie, but Fake Media won’t show it."

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i googled 'Cohen manuscript'... nothing but links to those Trump tweets, no evidence of one being released or even existing that i see

we know Trump shills for pro-Trump books without reading them, now is he inventing a fake one?

someone show me any site, even a pure Trump propaganda one, with this "just released manuscript"

also... why isn't this a story?... "the President is a proven delusional liar"... seems important

he needs removed from office
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Mar 07 12:34:56
...or perhaps if not total delusion, it was on a TV show, as obviously Trump wouldn't read it so would need told, and his preferred method of gaining 'info' is watching TV

so provide the article or show... or join team 'remove the unfit idiot from office'
kargen
Member
Thu Mar 07 14:07:59
Unlike black lives tweets don't matter.
Forwyn
Member
Thu Mar 07 14:40:56
I, for one, was worried about tw's #5 running out. Thank goodness for #6
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Mar 07 15:32:08
your welcome

@kargen, so not troubling the President of the United States is using a seemingly non-existent manuscript to defend himself from criminal accusations?

he can be as bat-shit crazy as he wants?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Mar 07 15:35:04
*you're
kargen
Member
Thu Mar 07 17:28:17
You know how I feel about tweets. So yeah not troubled at all about what President Trump said in those tweets.

And yeah I don't mind some bat-shit crazy being unleashed upon the world when it is just words.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Mar 07 18:28:35
do you care if he is actually mentally unstable?

are you assuming all the crazy things he claims are just deliberate lies? (& therefore acceptable to you for some reason)
kargen
Member
Thu Mar 07 19:04:16
I care about his actions and what he puts his signature on. You know, the things that actually matter. Doesn't bother me a bit if he wants to say him and Kim are best buds. If he starts sending tons of cash and weapons to North Korea then I'll get as worried as you are over these tweets.
smart dude
Member
Fri Mar 08 02:55:57
"What a person says is in no way indicative of that person's mental health or compentence."

-kargen, March 2019
smart dude
Member
Fri Mar 08 03:10:21
"The ground is shaking and the walls are crumbling. No reason to evaculate the building until after a chunk of concrete lands on my head."

-kargen, March 2019
Rugian
Member
Fri Mar 08 06:41:01
Inside Michael Cohen's '$750,000' book deal and how he pitched the proposal praising Trump just weeks before the FBI raided his office

By Martin Gould For Dailymail.com

Published: 16:04 EST, 28 February 2019 | Updated: 17:36 EST, 28 February 2019

President Donald Trump is not crazy. Nor is he dumb or paranoid. Certainly he is not in over his head. Is he a liar? Nope. And he is not addicted to TV either.

Who says so? None other than Michael Cohen, the president's former lawyer and fixer who eviscerated Trump in three days of testimony before Congressional committees this week.

Cohen's comments were in a book proposal that the jail-bound disbarred attorney was shopping around in the weeks before the FBI raided his offices last year. DailyMail.com has reviewed a copy of that proposal.

At the time he had nothing but good things to say about his boss who had entered the White House a little more than a year earlier.

Cohen was pushing a book with the working title 'Trump Revolution: From The Tower to The White House, Understanding Donald J. Trump,' that he proposed to write.

He sent his book to several potential publishers last year, and one, Hachette, reportedly was willing to pay him three-quarters of a million dollars for his wise words.

But Cohen, who is due to start a three-year prison term in May for crimes including tax evasion, lying to Congress and making false statements, thought he could do better and continued to seek more money, DailyMail.com can reveal.

Donald Trump's personal lawyer Michael Cohen was pushing a positive book about working for Trump in the weeks before the FBI raided his offices last year. DailyMail.com has obtained a copy of his proposal a day after Cohen delivered a scathing testimony to Congress about Trump, who he now calls a racist and a conman

'I doubt he was offered $750,000,' one publishing executive told DailyMail.com. 'If he was, he was a fool not to take it.

'Everything he wanted to say about Trump was positive,' added another executive who discussed the deal with Cohen.

'Even in our meeting he was glowing with praise for the president.'

The executive said Cohen did not tell him whether Trump knew about the planned book.

The deal with Hachette's conservative imprint Center Street eventually fell apart after Cohen was charged with the crimes that will now land him in prison.

In the proposal, Cohen, now 52, said his most important job in his role as special counsel to the Trump Organization was 'looking out for Mr. Trump and his family.'

He added: 'Most of my work took place behind the scenes. Unless it was the sort of situation that required me to come through the front door with a wrecking ball, that is – in which case my involvement was pretty obvious.

'No issue was too big, too sticky or too oddball for me to tackle. I saw it all, handled it all. And still do.'

He started his proposal with a list of unflattering barbs that have been thrown at Trump since he became Commander-in-Chief. 'Crazy'; 'Dumb'; 'Paranoid'; 'In Over His Head'; 'Liar'; 'Addicted to TV'; 'Hates the Media'.

'All of these things have been said about my longtime boss, Donald J. Trump,' Cohen added. 'None of it is true. Except maybe that last one – about the media. Trump does believe that reporters are out to get him, and for a very good reason. Many of them are.

'That doesn't make him paranoid,' wrote Cohen. 'That makes him a realist.'

The nearest Cohen came to criticizing Trump at the time was when he admitted he is 'an exceedingly tough boss,' adding that could clearly be seen by the 'revolving door' at the White House, which by the time of writing had included the departures of national security advisor Michael Flynn, press secretary Sean Spicer, chief of staff Reince Priebus, communications director Anthony Scaramucci; chief strategist Steve Bannon, deputy national security advisor K.T. McFarland, health and human services secretary Tom Price, communications director Omarosa Manigault Newman, FBI director James Comey and – just days before he wrote his proposal - McFarland's successor Dina Powell.

Deputy FBI director Andrew McCabe and staff secretary Rob Porter would be gone just days later.

Cohen said in his proposal that he was the ideal person to write a book about Trump, which he said would be told 'by the guy who actually witnessed this stuff first-hand and lived to tell about it.'

'(F)irst and foremost, I think I have a unique point-of-view to offer,' he bragged. 'One that is based not on headlines, brief encounters or armchair analysis from afar, but on my own up-close and personal observations and experiences with Donald Trump and his family over the past dozen years.

'That so many people are confused by Trump is not surprising to me. His world is a highly complex and nuanced place; it also has clear and very specific rules of order. Most people don't understand that – or him – at all. That's not really their fault. Because here's the thing about Trump: Despite his hyper-public profile Donald Trump is -- and has always been -- an enigma to most people.

'That is by design, and I'll be talking a lot about that, as well,' he said.

Cohen promised chapters on both first lady Melania Trump and Trump's children, as well as 'the unfortunate saga' of Stormy Daniels, the porn star to whom Cohen paid $130,000 – money which he told the House Oversight and Reform Committee on Wednesday that Trump had repaid him in a series of $35,000 checks.

Cohen wrote his proposal on January 24, 2018, less than three weeks after the publication of the first critical book about the Trump presidency, Michael Wolff's 'Fire And Fury,' which claimed the White House was a chaotic place where '100% of the people around him' believe Trump is unfit for office.

His book proposal was in stark contrast to his words to the oversight committee and to two other Congressional panels which he addressed in private. On Wednesday he said Trump 'is a racist, he is a con man and he is a cheat.'

'I am not protecting Mr. Trump anymore,' he added. 'My loyalty to Mr. Trump has cost me everything: my family's happiness, friendships, my law license, my company, my livelihood, my honor, my reputation, and soon my freedom.

'I will not sit back say nothing and allow him to do the same to the country.'

He even made the startling claim that if Trump loses next year's election 'there may be no peaceful transfer of power.'

But in early 2018, Cohen was full of praise for the man he had served for a dozen years. He said he would use the book to 'unravel and explain' mysteries that surround the president. Those would include: 'Trump's communications style, management style, negotiating tactics, combat profile, Twitter battles and family dynamics. Along with the Russia probe and the revolving door at the White House.

'I have a lot to say about all of this stuff, with the understanding that there are some things I simply can't talk about because I am, as I said at the outset, Trump's longtime lawyer. But there's plenty I can talk about, so here I am.'

And he signed off on his proposal on a highbrow note. This, after all, would not be a downmarket tell-all, but a serious tome which would help people see what makes Trump tick.

'By offering my point-of-view, it is my sincere hope that I can help close or at least narrow the knowledge gap,' he wrote. 'For reporters, who have the important job of covering Trump; for lawmakers, who need to work constructively with Trump to get things done for our country; for global leaders who aspire to work collaboratively with America; for supporters, who have faith and put Trump into the White House; for critics, whose continued vigilance helps Trump and the Republican party get better at their jobs - Democrats, too. And for anybody else, no matter what your party or affiliation, who has an interest in gaining a better understanding of the world, ways and methodology of the 45th President of the United States, Donald J. Trump.'

http://www...k-claiming-Trump-not-liar.html
smart dude
Member
Fri Mar 08 08:15:16
"Where there is smoke, there is no fire."

-kargen, 2019

"If someone is opposed to me, then they are wrong, even if they say the sky is blue."

-kargen, 2019

"Cohen is a lying sack of shit. That means Trump is innocent."

-kargen, 2019
smart dude
Member
Fri Mar 08 08:18:03
"Someone who is a proven liar said something bad about me. That proves I am an honest person."

-kargen, 2019
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Mar 08 11:31:42
a book proposal from before Cohen in trouble is not a 'just released manuscript'... and it would not contradict his testimony (not only as not bound by any oath, but the book proposal included talk about mistress pay-offs & the Moscow tower & bank/tax/insurance fraud not happening?... i don't think so)

also this was from the time period when Cohen stated things like:
"I've never come a situation where Mr. Trump has said something that is not accurate."

no person in existence can believe that statement is true... hopefully


so present a 'just released manuscript' contradicting testimony... we already know Cohen provided stupid praise of Trump when he was his 'fixer' (w/o needing a non-existent book)
Rugian
Member
Fri Mar 08 11:44:38
Tw,

It's a manuscript that Cohen wrote barely a year ago and which the Daily Mail posted details about a week ago. What's your objection to the characterization here, exactly?

What the proposal demonstrates is that Cohen is absolutely full of shit, and undermines his testimony about Trump's character and actions. Throw in a little bit of Trump's penchant for exaggeration, and we have a pretty good basis for his tweets.

Hopefully this explanation satisfies you and mitigates your (unfounded) concerns about his mental state.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Mar 08 11:55:35
Trump: "Virtually everything failed lawyer Michael Cohen said in his sworn testimony last week is totally contradicted in his just released manuscript for a book about me."

you think this is true? again mistresses, the Tower, all the fraud... it's noted in this book proposal in a pro-Trump way?


"His just written book manuscript showed what he said was a total lie, but Fake Media won’t show it."
"Pundits should only use it."

so media should use vague comments of praise from an old book proposal -instead of- recent under oath testimony?


he lied to congress FOR Trump between the time of that proposal and now, so if you want to discredit something it would be what's in the book proposal... not what he said under oath after getting convicted


also, as i noted, there is plenty of ridiculous recorded praise by Cohen of Trump when he was still his goon... how is this book proposal of any more value?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Mar 08 12:02:56
my favorite Cohen quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFDyiL3MqpE

should he be charged w/ perjury because of that video?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Mar 08 12:14:35
kinda funny:

Dailymail (who supposedly got the proposal -- which is not a manuscript) wrote as bullet point:
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"He started his proposal with a list of unflattering barbs that have been thrown at Trump since he became Commander-in-Chief. 'Crazy'; 'Dumb'; 'Paranoid'; 'In Over His Head'; 'Liar'; 'Addicted to TV'; 'Hates the Media'."


Fox News citing Dailymail:
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"According to the Daily Mail, Cohen’s book would have touted Trump, countering descriptions of his then-boss as "crazy," "dumb," "paranoid" and hateful toward the media."


so Fox removing 'In Over His Head', 'Liar' & 'Addicted to TV' :p


anyway... Cohen didn't testify that Trump was 'Crazy'; 'Dumb'; 'Paranoid'; 'In Over His Head'; 'Addicted to TV'; 'Hates the Media' so this meaningless proposal from when he was a loyal shill is extra meaningless

& anyone who thinks Trump is not a liar is not paying attention or is really really really stupid


but i appreciate learning where Trump got his delusional idea of a manuscript (which doesn't exist)... and of course he will claim that it contradicts everything Cohen said because he's a total liar
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Mar 11 00:36:20
Trump retweeted some garbage pile who claimed:

"BREAKING: Even Mueller's case against Russia itself, for interfering in the 2016 election, is breaking down"
(No link or other info)

So our TRAITOR president is STILL fighting for Russia's innocence...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Mar 14 11:14:35
"
“The Lisa Page (FBI) transcript also confirms earlier reporting that Page testified Russian Collusion was still unproven when Special Counsel Robert Mueller was appointed.” Catherine Herridge, @FoxNews In other words they appointed someone when there was (and is) no crime. Bad!
"


OMG!!! the crimes weren't PROVEN before they investigated!!! disband the corrupt FBI!!!
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Mar 17 00:12:24
"
“New evidence that the Obama era team of the FBI, DOJ & CIA were working together to Spy on (and take out) President Trump, all the way back in 2015.” A transcript of Peter Strzok’s testimony is devastating. Hopefully the Mueller Report will be covering this. @OANN @foxandfriends
"
~the President


presumably he's quoting someone in the quotation marks part (but not guaranteed) who is a lying piece of shit who was either on OANN or Fox... or maybe the two propaganda networks have joined

& presumably there is NO evidence of impropriety whatsoever as usual... but it's important to undermine as many of our institutions as possible all for his glory
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Mar 17 13:30:55
"
Were Fox News weekend anchors, Arthel Neville and Leland Vittert, trained by CNN prior to their ratings collapse? In any event, that’s where they should be working, along with their lowest rated anchor, Shepard Smith!
"
~the President


those hosts aren't openly supporting Trump with everything they say... they must go
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Mar 17 13:38:11
(he's got a ton of other comments demonstrating he's an unfit liar if you want to browse)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Mar 18 01:07:06
"
What the Democrats have done in trying to steal a Presidential Election, first at the “ballot box” and then, after that failed, with the “Insurance Policy,” is the biggest Scandal in the history of our Country!
"
~the President


...i'll guess Sarah Sanders isn't going to clarify what stealing the Dems supposedly did at the "ballot box"... (and of course the FBI stuff has been nonsense from the start)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Mar 20 11:15:13
"
George Conway, often referred to as Mr. Kellyanne Conway by those who know him, is VERY jealous of his wife’s success & angry that I, with her help, didn’t give him the job he so desperately wanted. I barely know him but just take a look, a stone cold LOSER & husband from hell!
"
~the President talking about the husband of his advisor/campaign manager/transformed snake


(the husband is a conservative who doesn't like Trump for the obvious reasons)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Mar 20 14:42:52
"John McCain received the fake and phony dossier. Did you hear about the dossier? It was paid for by Crooked Hillary Clinton, right?" [crowd: 'BOOOO!!'] "And John McCain got it. He got it. And what did he do? He didn't call me. He turned it over to the FBI hoping to put me in jeopardy."

"I gave him the kind of funeral he wanted which as president I had to approve and I didn’t get a thank you"
~Trump still attacking dead man


so if you get incriminating evidence on Trump... give it to Trump... don't be a rat
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Mar 26 15:20:10
"
The Mainstream Media is under fire and being scorned all over the World as being corrupt and FAKE. For two years they pushed the Russian Collusion Delusion when they always knew there was No Collusion. They truly are the Enemy of the People and the Real Opposition Party!
"
~a dictator


weird that the media knew there was no collusion when even Giuliani eventually acknowledged they couldn't vouch for everyone in the campaign

anyway... 'enemy of the people' again... great... words from leaders don't matter & don't influence anyone, as everybody knows
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