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tumbleweed
rank Tue Mar 12 18:14:35 2019
Actresses Felicity Huffman and Lori Loughlin are among dozens of parents, sports coaches and college prep executives accused of carrying out a national conspiracy to get students into prestigious colleges, according to a massive federal indictment.

The purpose of the alleged scam was to help student athletes get into college as recruited athletes, regardless of their athletic ability, according to the indictment. It alleges that a third party took the ACT and SAT college entrance exams in place of students. The documents also allege that some defendants created fake athletic profiles for students to make them appear to be successful athletes and get them into college.

Athletic coaches from Yale, Stanford, USC, Wake Forest and Georgetown, among others, are implicated as well as parents and exam administrators, federal prosecutors said.

Huffman, an Academy Award nominee, has been charged with felony conspiracy to commit mail fraud and honest services mail fraud, according to court paperwork filed Monday in federal court in Massachusetts. A law enforcement source confirms to CNN that the actress has been arrested in Los Angeles.

Loughlin, star of "Full House" and "Fuller House," also is facing the same felony charge -- conspiracy to commit mail fraud and honest services mail fraud.

CNN is working to get comment from the actresses' representatives.

Huffman, best known for her role on TV's "Desperate Housewives," is accused of paying $15,000 to an organization that then facilitated cheating for her daughter on the SATs, the indictment said. Huffman also discussed the scheme in a recorded phone call with a cooperating witness, the indictment said.

Of the other defendants, several are sports coaches or administrators at the University of Southern California, UCLA and Yale and Wake Forest universities. The indictment accuses defendants of committing crimes between 2011 and 2019.

Much of the indictment revolves around William Rick Singer, the founder of a for-profit college counseling and preparation business known as "The Key."

As laid out in the indictment, Singer allegedly paid college coaches to claim that a prospective student should be accepted to college because the student was a recruit for their sports team. However, Singer and the coaches knew that the student was not a competitive player and that his or her athletic profile was fake, the indictment said.

This is a developing story.

http://www...ion-cheating-scheme/index.html

Forwyn
rank Tue Mar 12 20:14:04 2019
Kids are paying $1k a semester for temporary access to books and homework platforms, but this is the element of college that our government focuses on. lulz

tumbleweed
rank Tue Mar 12 20:22:59 2019
unless that is violating a federal law, that would not involve our "Justice" Department

write your congressperson

Forwyn
rank Tue Mar 12 20:31:33 2019
Neither is cheating on the SAT to my knowledge, but "muh mail fraud"

swordtail
rank Tue Mar 12 21:16:20 2019
http://twitter.com/FelicityHuffman/status/768888270772064256

Paramount
rank Tue Mar 12 21:21:17 2019
Lock them up and throw away the key.

Paramount
rank Tue Mar 12 21:24:33 2019
I bet Felicity Huffman voted Trump. She might be jewish also,

kargen
rank Tue Mar 12 22:33:41 2019
I'll take that bet.

Paramount
rank Tue Mar 12 23:17:45 2019
Actually, I don’t wanna bet anymore. She is probably a Liberal because I read that she is pro-choice.

Y2A
rank Wed Mar 13 00:12:50 2019
Who wants to bet that Forwyn is a brat who cries a about "not muh affirmative action"?

Y2A
rank Wed Mar 13 00:14:21 2019
It just goes to show that the fittest of the fittest is for the proles not rules that so called conservatives live by.

Sam Adams
rank Wed Mar 13 00:20:55 2019
Wait arnt these hollywood liberals?

Forwyn
rank Wed Mar 13 00:29:48 2019
"fittest of the fittest"

Includes parents, not muh fed gov

Rugian
rank Wed Mar 13 00:39:25 2019
Y2A is the most uppity person that I've ever met.

Show some gratitude for the system that has benefited you so much already, cabron.

CrownRoyal
rank Wed Mar 13 14:40:32 2019
http://www...uption-rigged?CMP=share_btn_tw

the whole system is one giant affirmative action excersice for wealthy teenagers who are not that bright or especially hard working, and who should not be anywhere near these elite colleges, if graduating the best and the brightest is the task. Donations, gifts, legacy points, paid tutors, "visits". These parents in the news just did the kind of bribery that happens to be illegal, instead of legal.

jergul
rank Wed Mar 13 14:48:13 2019
Imagine a world where Trump got into the school he deserved based on his merits.

CrownRoyal
rank Wed Mar 13 14:54:40 2019
and god forbid a poor brown kid gets any help at all, utterly unacceptable in this "meritocracy"

Forwyn
rank Wed Mar 13 17:38:12 2019
They do get help.

We even execute armed raids on rich white people who cheat on tests, apparently.

Muh equality

Rugian
rank Wed Mar 13 17:55:56 2019
rownRoyal
Member Wed Mar 13 07:54:40
and god forbid a poor brown kid gets any help at all, utterly unacceptable in this "meritocracy"

Are you saying that brown kids cant be members of wealthy families?

I have long been in favor of affluence-based affirmative action programs, for the record. Economic status is far and away the greatest determinant of access to education, and it should be acceptable to make adjustments to admissions standards on those grounds. Race-based AA, on the other hand, is, well, just fucking racist and needs to be abolished.

Rugian
rank Wed Mar 13 17:58:53 2019
And yeah, the FBI conducting a guns-drawn early dawn raid over this was blatantly excessive.

tumbleweed
rank Wed Mar 13 18:03:10 2019
Kushner's daddy paid $2.5 million for him to get into Harvard... he must be borderline retarded

& it was legal

and now he has a security clearance against the advice of everyone & is in charge of middle east peace, various trade deals, & more... w/ no qualifications for any of it

the American dream

Rugian
rank Wed Mar 13 18:15:42 2019
Tw,

Nice to see that ProPublics is investigating the truly important stories of our time. They suffer from TDS almost much as you.

CrownRoyal
rank Wed Mar 13 18:22:42 2019

"Are you saying that brown kids cant be members of wealthy families"
I am saying that retards who support affirmative action based on wealth look funny when they start complaining about any form of AA

Rugian
rank Wed Mar 13 18:28:29 2019
Well...you're wrong. End of story.

CrownRoyal
rank Wed Mar 13 18:36:33 2019
Not if my goal is to promote the upward mobility, to promote the deserving, who might lack the means, to live in meritocracy. I'm wrong if my goal is to be ruled by Jared Kushners and other moneyed interests which pass wealth from generation to generation, amassing more and more power. Might as well go back to aristocracy

Rugian
rank Wed Mar 13 19:10:00 2019
Yes, you've made your disdain for poor whites quite clear.

Anyway, I see where this convoy is already headed, and have no interest in defending points that I'm not making. Have a great day, mi amigi

Forwyn
rank Wed Mar 13 19:10:53 2019
"the deserving"

As determined by race?

CrownRoyal
rank Wed Mar 13 19:22:01 2019
"Yes, you've made your disdain for poor whites quite clear. "

This is from the guy who just whined about not wanting to defend points he is not taking.

"As determined by race?"

By grades is ok with me. Or whatever other criteria, as long as you earn it, and can't buy it

The Children
rank Wed Mar 13 20:35:27 2019
this is what tc been sayin all these years.

we r slaves man. wage fuckin slaves.

we r born slaves, treated as slaves and we will never end up ahead in life. why its coz da system is RIGGED. RIGGED YO.

these elites pay there way and ensure there children will always be ahead of us.

the social caste is real

The Children
rank Wed Mar 13 20:40:12 2019
remember how a hardworkin asian with superior score by far superior score, doesnot get allowed entrance on the basis that they need "more" than just scores.

bullshit.

horse fuckin bullshittery.

a white person with a rich daddy can get in if daddy pays.

its as simple as that.

hood
rank Wed Mar 13 21:18:49 2019
Money is more than scores. You weren't lied to.

patom
rank Wed Mar 13 23:51:58 2019
This makes national news with the justice dept. and outside law enforcement agencies. Yet if your daughter gets raped in a College by another College student, let's make sure we don't ruin the young mans future. Plus protect the college at all cost.

kargen
rank Thu Mar 14 00:00:42 2019
The implications of this go beyond the fifty charged so far. This could eventually rip apart Title IX in college sports. Colleges have to offer the same number of scholarships to women as men. Often though they don't have enough apply. Offering bogus scholarships keeps these schools getting their Title IX funding.

And TC you don't need an elite school to move on up. The elite schools are more a status symbol for parents now than a superior education and even though that has been known for while this story really highlights it.

kargen
rank Thu Mar 14 01:26:47 2019
Oh and I forgot the tax fraud. Cheating on the SAT's has been going on for a long long time though. This might finally be the story that kills the SAT being used as part of the entry process.

murder
rank Thu Mar 14 04:41:11 2019

The lesson here is don't try to bribe your kid's way into a school ... unless you have enough money to pay for a new building at the university.

murder
rank Thu Mar 14 04:43:39 2019

btw the big scandal here is 300 FBI & IRS agents investigating this nonsense. And then they hold a press conference like they captured John Dillinger.

kargen
rank Thu Mar 14 05:11:27 2019
I think it is a fine use of FBI resources so long as the courts follow up with real penalties should they be found guilty.
The crimes took place across many states involving people and universities all across the nation. Kind of right in the FBI's wheel house. The main bad guy pled guilty to racketeering charges and bragged that he helped over 800 students get into college.

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tumbleweed rank	Tue Mar 12 18:14:35 2019 Actresses Felicity Huffman and Lori Loughlin are among dozens of parents, sports coaches and college prep executives accused of carrying out a national conspiracy to get students into prestigious colleges, according to a massive federal indictment. The purpose of the alleged scam was to help student athletes get into college as recruited athletes, regardless of their athletic ability, according to the indictment. It alleges that a third party took the ACT and SAT college entrance exams in place of students. The documents also allege that some defendants created fake athletic profiles for students to make them appear to be successful athletes and get them into college. Athletic coaches from Yale, Stanford, USC, Wake Forest and Georgetown, among others, are implicated as well as parents and exam administrators, federal prosecutors said. Huffman, an Academy Award nominee, has been charged with felony conspiracy to commit mail fraud and honest services mail fraud, according to court paperwork filed Monday in federal court in Massachusetts. A law enforcement source confirms to CNN that the actress has been arrested in Los Angeles. Loughlin, star of "Full House" and "Fuller House," also is facing the same felony charge -- conspiracy to commit mail fraud and honest services mail fraud. CNN is working to get comment from the actresses' representatives. Huffman, best known for her role on TV's "Desperate Housewives," is accused of paying $15,000 to an organization that then facilitated cheating for her daughter on the SATs, the indictment said. Huffman also discussed the scheme in a recorded phone call with a cooperating witness, the indictment said. Of the other defendants, several are sports coaches or administrators at the University of Southern California, UCLA and Yale and Wake Forest universities. The indictment accuses defendants of committing crimes between 2011 and 2019. Much of the indictment revolves around William Rick Singer, the founder of a for-profit college counseling and preparation business known as "The Key." As laid out in the indictment, Singer allegedly paid college coaches to claim that a prospective student should be accepted to college because the student was a recruit for their sports team. However, Singer and the coaches knew that the student was not a competitive player and that his or her athletic profile was fake, the indictment said. This is a developing story. http://www...ion-cheating-scheme/index.html
Forwyn rank	Tue Mar 12 20:14:04 2019 Kids are paying $1k a semester for temporary access to books and homework platforms, but this is the element of college that our government focuses on. lulz
tumbleweed rank	Tue Mar 12 20:22:59 2019 unless that is violating a federal law, that would not involve our "Justice" Department write your congressperson
Forwyn rank	Tue Mar 12 20:31:33 2019 Neither is cheating on the SAT to my knowledge, but "muh mail fraud"
swordtail rank	Tue Mar 12 21:16:20 2019 http://twitter.com/FelicityHuffman/status/768888270772064256
Paramount rank	Tue Mar 12 21:21:17 2019 Lock them up and throw away the key.
Paramount rank	Tue Mar 12 21:24:33 2019 I bet Felicity Huffman voted Trump. She might be jewish also,
kargen rank	Tue Mar 12 22:33:41 2019 I'll take that bet.
Paramount rank	Tue Mar 12 23:17:45 2019 Actually, I don’t wanna bet anymore. She is probably a Liberal because I read that she is pro-choice.
Y2A rank	Wed Mar 13 00:12:50 2019 Who wants to bet that Forwyn is a brat who cries a about "not muh affirmative action"?
Y2A rank	Wed Mar 13 00:14:21 2019 It just goes to show that the fittest of the fittest is for the proles not rules that so called conservatives live by.
Sam Adams rank	Wed Mar 13 00:20:55 2019 Wait arnt these hollywood liberals?
Forwyn rank	Wed Mar 13 00:29:48 2019 "fittest of the fittest" Includes parents, not muh fed gov
Rugian rank	Wed Mar 13 00:39:25 2019 Y2A is the most uppity person that I've ever met. Show some gratitude for the system that has benefited you so much already, cabron.
CrownRoyal rank	Wed Mar 13 14:40:32 2019 http://www...uption-rigged?CMP=share_btn_tw the whole system is one giant affirmative action excersice for wealthy teenagers who are not that bright or especially hard working, and who should not be anywhere near these elite colleges, if graduating the best and the brightest is the task. Donations, gifts, legacy points, paid tutors, "visits". These parents in the news just did the kind of bribery that happens to be illegal, instead of legal.
jergul rank	Wed Mar 13 14:48:13 2019 Imagine a world where Trump got into the school he deserved based on his merits.
CrownRoyal rank	Wed Mar 13 14:54:40 2019 and god forbid a poor brown kid gets any help at all, utterly unacceptable in this "meritocracy"
Forwyn rank	Wed Mar 13 17:38:12 2019 They do get help. We even execute armed raids on rich white people who cheat on tests, apparently. Muh equality
Rugian rank	Wed Mar 13 17:55:56 2019 rownRoyal Member Wed Mar 13 07:54:40 and god forbid a poor brown kid gets any help at all, utterly unacceptable in this "meritocracy" Are you saying that brown kids cant be members of wealthy families? I have long been in favor of affluence-based affirmative action programs, for the record. Economic status is far and away the greatest determinant of access to education, and it should be acceptable to make adjustments to admissions standards on those grounds. Race-based AA, on the other hand, is, well, just fucking racist and needs to be abolished.
Rugian rank	Wed Mar 13 17:58:53 2019 And yeah, the FBI conducting a guns-drawn early dawn raid over this was blatantly excessive.
tumbleweed rank	Wed Mar 13 18:03:10 2019 Kushner's daddy paid $2.5 million for him to get into Harvard... he must be borderline retarded & it was legal and now he has a security clearance against the advice of everyone & is in charge of middle east peace, various trade deals, & more... w/ no qualifications for any of it the American dream
Rugian rank	Wed Mar 13 18:15:42 2019 Tw, Nice to see that ProPublics is investigating the truly important stories of our time. They suffer from TDS almost much as you.
CrownRoyal rank	Wed Mar 13 18:22:42 2019 "Are you saying that brown kids cant be members of wealthy families" I am saying that retards who support affirmative action based on wealth look funny when they start complaining about any form of AA
Rugian rank	Wed Mar 13 18:28:29 2019 Well...you're wrong. End of story.
CrownRoyal rank	Wed Mar 13 18:36:33 2019 Not if my goal is to promote the upward mobility, to promote the deserving, who might lack the means, to live in meritocracy. I'm wrong if my goal is to be ruled by Jared Kushners and other moneyed interests which pass wealth from generation to generation, amassing more and more power. Might as well go back to aristocracy
Rugian rank	Wed Mar 13 19:10:00 2019 Yes, you've made your disdain for poor whites quite clear. Anyway, I see where this convoy is already headed, and have no interest in defending points that I'm not making. Have a great day, mi amigi
Forwyn rank	Wed Mar 13 19:10:53 2019 "the deserving" As determined by race?
CrownRoyal rank	Wed Mar 13 19:22:01 2019 "Yes, you've made your disdain for poor whites quite clear. " This is from the guy who just whined about not wanting to defend points he is not taking. "As determined by race?" By grades is ok with me. Or whatever other criteria, as long as you earn it, and can't buy it
The Children rank	Wed Mar 13 20:35:27 2019 this is what tc been sayin all these years. we r slaves man. wage fuckin slaves. we r born slaves, treated as slaves and we will never end up ahead in life. why its coz da system is RIGGED. RIGGED YO. these elites pay there way and ensure there children will always be ahead of us. the social caste is real
The Children rank	Wed Mar 13 20:40:12 2019 remember how a hardworkin asian with superior score by far superior score, doesnot get allowed entrance on the basis that they need "more" than just scores. bullshit. horse fuckin bullshittery. a white person with a rich daddy can get in if daddy pays. its as simple as that.
hood rank	Wed Mar 13 21:18:49 2019 Money is more than scores. You weren't lied to.
patom rank	Wed Mar 13 23:51:58 2019 This makes national news with the justice dept. and outside law enforcement agencies. Yet if your daughter gets raped in a College by another College student, let's make sure we don't ruin the young mans future. Plus protect the college at all cost.
kargen rank	Thu Mar 14 00:00:42 2019 The implications of this go beyond the fifty charged so far. This could eventually rip apart Title IX in college sports. Colleges have to offer the same number of scholarships to women as men. Often though they don't have enough apply. Offering bogus scholarships keeps these schools getting their Title IX funding. And TC you don't need an elite school to move on up. The elite schools are more a status symbol for parents now than a superior education and even though that has been known for while this story really highlights it.
kargen rank	Thu Mar 14 01:26:47 2019 Oh and I forgot the tax fraud. Cheating on the SAT's has been going on for a long long time though. This might finally be the story that kills the SAT being used as part of the entry process.
murder rank	Thu Mar 14 04:41:11 2019 The lesson here is don't try to bribe your kid's way into a school ... unless you have enough money to pay for a new building at the university.
murder rank	Thu Mar 14 04:43:39 2019 btw the big scandal here is 300 FBI & IRS agents investigating this nonsense. And then they hold a press conference like they captured John Dillinger.
kargen rank	Thu Mar 14 05:11:27 2019 I think it is a fine use of FBI resources so long as the courts follow up with real penalties should they be found guilty. The crimes took place across many states involving people and universities all across the nation. Kind of right in the FBI's wheel house. The main bad guy pled guilty to racketeering charges and bragged that he helped over 800 students get into college.
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