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Rugian
Member
Fri Mar 29 17:44:37
The Texas attorney general is investigating San Antonio for banning Chick-fil-A from its airport

By Michelle Lou and Veronica Stracqualursi, CNN
Updated 1:38 PM ET, Fri March 29, 2019

The Texas attorney general is investigating whether the city of San Antonio violated Chick-fil-A's religious liberty when it banned the fast food chain from its airport.

Last week, the San Antonio city council approved a new concessions contract for the San Antonio International Airport -- on the condition that Chick-fil-A be excluded.

Texas attorney general Ken Paxton slammed the city's decision as "discriminatory" and "inconsistent with the Constitution and Texas law." He echoed that thought in a tweet substituting waffle fries for the famous cannon in the Gonzales flag used during the Texas Revolution.

"The Constitution's protection of religious liberty is somehow even better than Chick-fil-A's chicken," Paxton wrote in a Thursday letter to the San Antonio mayor and city council. "Unfortunately, I have serious concerns that both are under assault at the San Antonio airport."

CNN has reached out to the office of San Antonio Mayor Ron Nirenberg for a response.

Councilman Roberto Treviño, who made the motion to exclude Chick-fil-A, said San Antonio does not tolerate "anti-LGBTQ behavior."

"With this decision, the City Council reaffirmed the work our city has done to become a champion of equality and inclusion. San Antonio is a city full of compassion, and we do not have room in our public facilities for a business with a legacy of anti-LGBTQ behavior," Treviño said in a March 21 statement. "Everyone has a place here, and everyone should feel welcome when they walk through our airport."

In a response to CNN on Friday, Treviño said, "I'm confident that we have followed all our rights and laws as given to us as a City Council, and we did everything by the book."

In a separate letter Thursday, Paxton also requested that the US Department of Transportation open an investigation into whether San Antonio's decision to ban Chick-fil-A from its airport violated federal law. The Transportation Department did not immediately return CNN's request for comment.

CNN has also reached out to Chick-fil-A for comment.

Chick-fil-A has come under fire from supporters of same-sex marriage in recent years after its president, Dan Cathy, said the company supported "the biblical definition of the family unit."

ThinkProgress, a left-leaning website, reported last week that Chick-fil-A donated $1.8 million in 2017 to groups with a discriminatory record against the LGBTQ community. The company responded, saying in a statement that "to suggest that our efforts in supporting these organizations was focused on suppressing a group of people is misleading and inaccurate."

Nirenberg, who's up for reelection, defended his vote supporting the motion during a mayoral debate last week.

"There are many people in the community that are uncomfortable with Chick-fil-A," Nirenberg said. "And I would ask you, have you ever tried to buy waffle fries on a Sunday? They're closed. Fifteen percent of sales generated in the airport come on a Sunday."

http://www...fil-a-investigation/index.html

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Leftists have no tolerance for free speech. The fag mafia is out of control and needs to be curtailed asap.
hood
Member
Fri Mar 29 18:39:24
Seems like the city is exercising both their own free speech and also their freedom of association. Why do butthurt religitards and Nazi supporters always immediately react to exercising of rights by trying to suppress rights?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Mar 29 19:04:55
Chick-fil-A's silence on Brunei is deafening
Rugian
Member
Fri Mar 29 19:13:54
Hood

"Seems like the city is exercising both their own free speech"

You are a shittard if you think that government entities should be in the business of regulating rightthink and wrongthink. Enough said.

TW

I literally only figured what you were talking about because TMZ linked this story at the bottom of a Brunei stoning article.

Anyway, fuck Brunei. But I don't think anyone would argue that Chick-Fil-A is anywhere near that level.
jergul
large member
Fri Mar 29 19:16:00
Hood
That is an interesting argument. The same logic that gives corporations civil rights (an assembly of people shouild have rights) would be valid for incorporated towns, cities and what have you.

Rugian
Member
Fri Mar 29 19:16:44
Let's make a grand bargain here. We get to off the fascists in the gay community, and in exchange we'll wipe all gay-hating Muslims off the map. Deal?
Rugian
Member
Fri Mar 29 19:17:09
jergul,

No.
Rugian
Member
Fri Mar 29 19:20:40
jergul,

And in any case, how very short-sighted of you. Republicans hold, what, 33 of 50 governorships? I can only imagine how the fag marriage debate would have gone in the first place if governments were permitted to destroy any entity that engages in speech they disagreed with.
jergul
large member
Fri Mar 29 19:41:17
Ruggy
The logic does not extend to the highest level of government (state or federal depending on jurisdiction). It does make certain sense that smaller civic entities are afforded constitutional protections.

Back the the matter at hand. It is not a civil right to be allowed to rent property from the public.

jergul
large member
Fri Mar 29 19:44:51
TITLE VI NONDISCRIMINATION POLICY STATEMENT

Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 prohibits discrimination on the basis of race, color, or national origin in programs and activities receiving Federal financial assistance. Specifically, Title VI provides that "no person in the United States shall, on the ground of race, color, or national origin, be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any program or activity receiving Federal financial assistance." 42 U.S.C. Section 2000d. San Antonio Airport System (SAT/SSF) operates its programs and services without regard to race, color, and national origin, religion, sex, disability (physical or mental), age, genetic information, marital status, sexual orientation or identity, AIDs/HIV status, medical condition, political views or affiliations in accordance with the provisions of Title VI Civil Rights Acts. Any person who believes they have been aggrieved by any unlawful discriminatory practice under Title VI may file a complaint with SAT/SSF Title VI Coordinator.

It is unlawful for airport operators and their lessees, tenants, concessionaires and contractors to discriminate against any person because of race, color, national origin, sex, creed, or disability in public services and employment opportunities. Allegations of discrimination should be promptly reported to...

http://www.sanantonio.gov/Aviation/Title-VI-Information
Pillz
Member
Fri Mar 29 20:08:52
Was Chick-fil-A refusing service to gays and seating them at the back of the restaurant or something?
kargen
Member
Fri Mar 29 21:00:44
nope just serving shitty overpriced chicken sandwiches.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Mar 29 21:31:37
Chick-Fil-A came out against gay marriage or something awhile ago, and became the darling of the Fox News crowd


and I was joking above... there was a mini-meme of "Taylor Swift's silence on _____ is deafening". (Insert some issue)
smart dude
Member
Fri Mar 29 22:16:04
"overpriced chicken sandwiches."

I'm sorry hear you are a poor person, but they make good food as far as fast good goes.

Overpriced lol. It is lunch. Are you TC?
hood
Member
Fri Mar 29 22:54:57
Rugian,

You are a shittard if you think "religious liberty" was violated here.
kargen
Member
Fri Mar 29 23:19:14
Overpriced. They charge too much for how bad their shit tastes. Overpriced doesn't mean unaffordable it means isn't worth what they are charging. Maybe I happened upon the worst two Chick-Fil-As in the entire world? The sandwiches were horrid and I mean horrid for fast food.

Outdated twin chili cheese dogs from 7-11 cooked in a microwave scorched on the outside still cold in the middle with plastic from the container melted into the bun is better.
smart dude
Member
Sat Mar 30 08:34:52
Nope.
Rugian
Member
Sat Mar 30 14:51:08
jergul,

The day Chick-Fil-A starts discriminating against customers and/or vendors on the basis of sexuality, let me know. Otherwise, that statute has no bearing here.

Hood,

What company do you work for? I find your political views to be offensive which means you should be barred from doing business within my municipality.
hood
Member
Sat Mar 30 15:39:53
Don't worry, rugian, I don't think my company is going to do any business in Boston. You're safe. You're also being (unwittingly) highly contradictory here. But that's alright.

Anyway.

Discrimination != political views. Being closed on the busiest day of the week != political views. With Chick-fil-A still supporting discriminatory causes through their corporate donations, it's a lot muddier than "MUH RELIGIOUS FREEDOM." San Antonio may get smacked down. They may being acting perfectly legally. I'm amused at how hot and bothered it's making you.
hood
Member
Sat Mar 30 15:41:39
"You're also being (unwittingly) highly contradictory here."

Hmm. Also blatantly contradictory. Individual political views != corporate political views. Chick-fil-A has used corporate money in their actions.
Rugian
Member
Sat Mar 30 15:43:56
Hood,

There is no substantive difference between the two.
Rugian
Member
Sat Mar 30 15:54:29
Hood,

I care very deeply at how censorious the American left has become as of late.
CrownRoyal
Member
Sat Mar 30 16:38:50
I always wanted to try CF. Next trip to US, it is on my list.
hood
Member
Sat Mar 30 17:19:17
"I care very deeply at how censorious the American left has become as of late."

Monopolists often do try to keep competitors from gaining a foothold in the industry.
Rugian
Member
Sat Mar 30 17:36:40
Hood,

We're not in the 1980s anymore, if you haven't noticed. The Moral Majority etc. is long gone.

The modern American right has abandoned morality-based censorship in favor of IRL shitposting. It's the left that has become the party of mass silencing of wrongthink.
Forwyn
Member
Sat Mar 30 18:14:28
Lulz what? Did hood actually argue that government entities have 1A rights?
obaminated
Member
Sun Mar 31 02:16:40
who wants to guess hood responds with a "you are a retard who doesn't know anything"

the dumb jew is predictable to a fault.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Sun Mar 31 03:44:35
”I'm amused at how hot and bothered it's making you.”

It is quite serious that a city government will not do business with a company based on them having mainstream conservative views.

This is just a head up for the ”I told you so” of The American Civil war 2.0.
hood
Member
Sun Mar 31 04:50:29
"It is quite serious that a city government will not do business with a company based on them having mainstream conservative views."

When mainstream conservative views = discrimination against a protected class, it would be serious if a government didn't act upon it.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Sun Mar 31 05:10:44
I don’t believe in protected classes, I don’t think you do either. And unless they refuse certain groups service based on group belonging, expressing opinions and supporting policy positions isn’t ”discrimination”.
hood
Member
Sun Mar 31 05:26:29
I'm going to hope that you just don't know what a protected class is...

And whether you believe in them or not, the law believes in them and protects them.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Sun Mar 31 05:30:22
I can discuss the ideas that are the basis of the law. Are we here to cite the law? I am not.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Sun Mar 31 05:39:26
Anyway, expressing opinions and supporting policy positions in a democracy, like them or not, agree or disagree, as a private citizen you can take your money elsewhere, for the government who from time to time is governed by the very people who support these policies, it should not matter. Something is the law today and me and my company want to change it, so we support it with our words and money. I fail to see a problem that requires government intervention.
hood
Member
Sun Mar 31 05:53:15
You legitimately believe people should be free to discriminate and punish others over attributes that are beyond their control? We aren't talking beliefs. We're talking action. Firing an employee because of their skin color, their sexual orientation, an unrelated-to-performance mental disorder. You think nothing should be protected?

You truly believe in a world where 0 black people are employees because Sam and Rugian have all the money and refuse to hire a black person for no other reason than skin color? Replace with brown, middle eastern, Jewish, female (or male), white, Asian, gay or straight. You believe governments should have the power to discriminate against an uncontrollable variable? That's absolutely fucking preposterous. It might be rugians wet dream, but it is preposterous all the same.

Of note, political beliefs aren't a protected class.
jergul
large member
Sun Mar 31 08:29:49
I am happy to discuss the principles behind why legal entities should have civil rights Nimi.

If you feel up to it.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Fri Apr 19 11:57:49
I truly believe non of those things are contingent on us having a system where some groups are protected and others are not. We should have laws against firing people for their skin color and sex etc., regardless of what it is. Discrimination is discrimination.

Not that this has anything to do with saying ”I believe marriage is between a man and a woman”, this is my belief. Which last I heard was what this was all about. Perhaps I missed something and Chick-fil-A has started denying service and employment to gay people?
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