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Sat May 25 02:48:34
It is clear that Trump is radical Islam’s best friend:

Trump to bypass Congress to sell arms to Saudi

President Donald Trump's administration is bypassing Congress to sell weapons to Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, citing a threat from Iran, despite lawmakers' concerns about their possible use against civilians in Yemen, a senator said Friday.

Senator Robert Menendez, the top Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, had used his powers to block sales of tens of thousands of precision-guided bombs to Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, fearing they would contribute to the humanitarian crisis in Yemen, where the US allies are mounting an offensive.

But the administration informed lawmakers that it was going around a legally required review by Congress to approve the sales as part of a total of 22 arms transactions to Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and other nations, Menendez's office said.

"I am disappointed, but not surprised, that the Trump administration has failed once again to prioritize our long-term national security interests or stand up for human rights, and instead is granting favors to authoritarian countries like Saudi Arabia," Menendez said in a statement.


The sales come after Trump vetoed a move by Congress to stop US support for the Saudi-led war in Yemen, where tens of thousands have died and millions risk starvation in what the United Nations calls the world's biggest humanitarian crisis.


Outrage at Saudi Arabia has grown in Congress, even among some of Trump's Republican allies, after the October killing of Jamal Khashoggi, a Virginia resident who had written critically of Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman in The Washington Post.

Khashoggi was strangled to death and his body dismembered after he visited the Saudi consulate in Istanbul to complete paperwork for his wedding, according to US and Turkish officials.

"Rather than stand up against those who murdered Jamal Khashoggi and are working against US interests, the Trump administration decided to do an end run around the Congress and possibly the law," Menendez said.

Trump, in a lengthy statement after Khashoggi's death, said he was not concerned over whether Prince Mohammed ordered the killing as Saudi Arabia was a major buyer of US weapons.
But Menendez said that the administration was putting arms sales at risk by bypassing Congress.

"With this move, the president is destroying the productive and decades-long working relationship on arms sales between the Congress and the executive branch," he said.

Average Ameriacn
Sat May 25 03:59:24
First they wanted to disarm the Sauds, after that the Americans. Don't trust the Democarts, the right to bear arms should be a right for everyone. It's an American invention to make this world a better place.
the wanderer
Sat May 25 11:28:55
"[Saudis] buy apartments from me. They spend $40 million, $50 million. Am I supposed to dislike them? I like them very much."
~the fraud

i'm sure Netanyahu & the Saudis are filling Trump's tiny mind w/ all his Iran views as we know he doesn't trust our own agencies

i wonder if he has any of his fraud* towers going up there... he has FIVE going up in India atm

(*his business model is licensing his name (legal fraud) so investors think he's involved in the project... he puts his photo & quotes in brochures, he and/or his family come for events to pretend involved, but he invests $0, gets paid millions (flat fees + % of condo sales)... at least 6 towers have failed screwing over investors but Trump gains money... and apparently what he does IS fraud as they've settled at least 2 class action suits... though w/ his typical confidentiality agreements to hide his criminal fraud business model)

Sat May 25 12:34:55
I'm not sure what Trump's business model has to do with arms sales to Saudi Arabia (just as I wasn't sure what the Mueller report had to do with the judiciary's out of control rulings which are hamstringing the executive branch's ability to do anything), but do find it fascinating that you believe that brand name deals are a fraudulent practice.
the wanderer
Sat May 25 12:45:38
i had been wanting to note it :p (also the sole purpose of the practice is to trick investors into believing someone they trust (for some reason) is involved, so yes it's fraud... plus he's had to settle suits so he goes beyond what's legal in his trickery)

it's semi-relevant as Trump (& Kushner) do lots of business w/ Saudis as he admits

so is that related to why he sides with them on everything? Kashoggi, bypassing congress on arms deals, Iran... quite possibly
the wanderer
Sat May 25 13:03:31
Trump deposition testimony regarding advertising material for one of his fraud towers:

[Q]: For example, Exhibit 307 states, "the signature development by Donald J. Trump will become a destination for many and a home for the select few."

[Liar]: Well, I think that's standard advertising language that frankly we were hoping to have that, absolutely. We have a beautiful site on the water, yes. We were looking to have that. This would have been a signature development or we wouldn't have done it.

[Q]: You have other signature developments; isn't that true?

[Fraud]: Yes, we do.

[Q]: And your position is that those signature developments are developed by you, you are the developer?

[Charlatan]: In some cases they're developed by me and in some cases they're not.

[Q]: Why does this advertising material not state this signature development or this development by SB Hotel Associates, LLC with Donald Trump as licensor?

[Deceiver]: Well, according to my lawyers, it's all over the documents, it's all over the -- you can't put everything into a small ad. It's all over the documents that I'm not the developer.

[Q]: Well, what about the documents before you with the advertising materials --

[Hustler]: You can't put it in advertising materials because there's not enough room. But the documents they signed, it's all over the place that I'm not the developer.

[Q]: What happens if there are statements that contradict each other?

[Cozener]: I don't see any contradiction. I think it's very simple.

[Q]: It's your testimony that the statement "this signature development by Donald J. Trump" is consistent with the position that Donald J. Trump is not a developer of this project?

[Mountebank]: Absolutely. They've signed documents that say I'm not the developer of the site. Absolutely.


TLDR: the advertising stating "the signature development by Donald J. Trump" can't possibly be meant to imply Trump is the developer...
the wanderer
Sat May 25 13:06:47

however, people can feel free to discuss the thread topic of habitual liar Trump's bypassing Congress to sell weapons to Saudis citing an unspecified threat by Iran that requires urgency for some reason (and supposedly not because Congress would not approve)

find your spines, R's...
Sat May 25 14:43:01
"What's corruption got to do with the office of the president?"

- rugian/fascists
Sat May 25 23:43:32
Arming jihadis

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