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Paramount
rank Fri May 31 21:44:55 2019
Or, no-go zones.

This article is a bit long so I’ll just leave a link here: http://www...-pops-london-investigation-map

kargen
rank Fri May 31 22:18:06 2019
That they allow the public access at all is a good thing and probably shouldn't be pushed. If the city starts making demands of the owners they can and probably will put up signs and/or fences and declare the land for employees only. By using surveillance and limiting certain activities those areas are probably much safer than many true public parks.

Paramount
rank Fri May 31 22:30:37 2019
So if private companies bought up and owned all land and if their security people patroled the land – dictating who can walk on their land and what citizens can do there, then citites and countries would be safe?

Nimatzo
rank Sat Jun 01 10:40:13 2019
Paramount
Yes just like it was during the feudal era :) Those were the days.

kargen
rank Sat Jun 01 10:46:20 2019
You could clear the grand canyon with a leap like that.

You've gone from a four acre park to an entire continent in one quick jump.

I wouldn't want to live in a country such as you described but yeah I'm guessing it would be a lot safer right up to the point they start making little green crackers out of you.

tumbleweed
rank Sat Jun 01 18:51:55 2019
it's not businesses making parks next to their buildings

Abu Dhabi owns the open space around the ExCeL centre

Kuwait owns the land around City Hall

sounds creepy & weird

jergul
rank Tue Jun 04 11:52:01 2019
Ownership is not the problem. Legislation regulating what is allowed and not allowed is missing.

It should frankly not matter who owns areas zoned as public areas.

Rugian
rank Tue Jun 04 14:42:29 2019
First off, no one should begrudge landowners for refusing to answer questions from The Guardian, an organization of far-left socialist twats that routinely displays a contempt for the concept of private property rights in general.

That being said, what IS the problem with publically posting rules for privately-held space? Installing a "Welcome to XYZ Park, shoes required, Occupy protestors and homeless scum can fuck off" sign doesnt seem like it would be that difficult.

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Paramount rank	Fri May 31 21:44:55 2019 Or, no-go zones. This article is a bit long so I’ll just leave a link here: http://www...-pops-london-investigation-map
kargen rank	Fri May 31 22:18:06 2019 That they allow the public access at all is a good thing and probably shouldn't be pushed. If the city starts making demands of the owners they can and probably will put up signs and/or fences and declare the land for employees only. By using surveillance and limiting certain activities those areas are probably much safer than many true public parks.
Paramount rank	Fri May 31 22:30:37 2019 So if private companies bought up and owned all land and if their security people patroled the land – dictating who can walk on their land and what citizens can do there, then citites and countries would be safe?
Nimatzo rank	Sat Jun 01 10:40:13 2019 Paramount Yes just like it was during the feudal era :) Those were the days.
kargen rank	Sat Jun 01 10:46:20 2019 You could clear the grand canyon with a leap like that. You've gone from a four acre park to an entire continent in one quick jump. I wouldn't want to live in a country such as you described but yeah I'm guessing it would be a lot safer right up to the point they start making little green crackers out of you.
tumbleweed rank	Sat Jun 01 18:51:55 2019 it's not businesses making parks next to their buildings Abu Dhabi owns the open space around the ExCeL centre Kuwait owns the land around City Hall sounds creepy & weird
jergul rank	Tue Jun 04 11:52:01 2019 Ownership is not the problem. Legislation regulating what is allowed and not allowed is missing. It should frankly not matter who owns areas zoned as public areas.
Rugian rank	Tue Jun 04 14:42:29 2019 First off, no one should begrudge landowners for refusing to answer questions from The Guardian, an organization of far-left socialist twats that routinely displays a contempt for the concept of private property rights in general. That being said, what IS the problem with publically posting rules for privately-held space? Installing a "Welcome to XYZ Park, shoes required, Occupy protestors and homeless scum can fuck off" sign doesnt seem like it would be that difficult.
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