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Forwyn
Member
Wed Jun 05 15:04:39
http://www...ting-arrested-faces-11-charges

A deputy who was blamed for failing to intervene as a shooter attacked Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla., has been arrested and charged in connection with the rampage.

Former Broward Sheriff's Deputy Scot Peterson, the only armed person assigned to the school on Feb. 14, 2018, faces 11 criminal charges. They include child neglect, culpable negligence and perjury, Broward State Attorney Mike Satz announced Tuesday in a statement.

Family members of victims and other attendees at a public safety commission meeting cheered the announcement, WLRN reported.

Peterson didn't go into the building where 17 people were eventually killed. Instead, he hid for 48 minutes at the base of a stairwell after the first shots were fired, according to a Public Safety Commission report published in January.

Peterson was arrested Tuesday after a 14-month investigation, the state attorney's office said.

The statement said agents from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement interviewed 184 witnesses about how deputies and other responders behaved on the day of the shooting. The agents reviewed hours of video footage and wrote more than 200 reports.

"The FDLE investigation shows former Deputy Peterson did absolutely nothing to mitigate the MSD shooting," Commissioner Rick Swearingen said in a statement. "There can be no excuse for his complete inaction and no question that his inaction cost lives."

After the massacre, Peterson retired from his job with the sheriff's department. Families of victims filed dozens of lawsuits against the school board and Peterson.

The lawsuits allege that he "wantonly and willfully disregarded" policies and procedures. Peterson's attorney, Joseph DiRuzzo, described the lawsuits as lacking "merit" and asserted that they would be challenged "vigorously."

DiRuzzo did not immediately respond to NPR's request for comment on Tuesday.

If convicted, Peterson, now 56, faces the possibility of spending more than 96 years in state prison.

Authorities said his bond would be set at $102,000, and he would be required to wear a GPS monitor, surrender his passport and relinquish any firearms while the case is pending.
hood
Member
Wed Jun 05 15:10:43
The blueblood tears over this will be biblical.
Im better then you
2012 UP Football Champ
Wed Jun 05 15:55:19
96 years is a bit excessive.
Paramount
Member
Wed Jun 05 16:22:00
He couldn’t have known how many shooters there were. So maybe he was waiting for backup to arrive instead of storming the school alone like a retard.
TJ
Member
Wed Jun 05 18:47:25
"If convicted, Peterson, now 56, faces the possibility of spending more than 96 years in state prison."

That is a stupid sentence. Pun intended.
obaminated
Member
Wed Jun 05 20:15:02
hiring Technician 5th Grade Upham for a security detail was their first mistake.
kargen
Member
Wed Jun 05 20:34:42
Paramount dispatch recordings show he knew a shooter was inside but when back-up arrived he advised them to create a perimeter and other tactics associated with a shooters location being unknown. Not unknown as what part of the building he might be in but unknown in respect to inside/outside and what building.

Either way he was trained for that particular job and a part of that training was when there is a potential shooting you go inside and you intervene. He failed to do that.

They probably can't stick a child neglect conviction on him because he wasn't in direct care of the children.
Rugian
Member
Wed Jun 05 22:14:17
Look, he may have been useless at protecting the lives of those around him...but his German is flawless.
Cherub Cow
Member
Thu Jun 06 17:55:09
Wait... I know this man... Upham!

..
I’m not sure why they punished him given that other coward officers have gotten out of poorly-justified shootings by saying that they feared for their lives and were thinking of getting back to their families, dogs, and TVs. Maybe it would have been okay if he’d killed some of the kids by accident, because that’s better than simple inaction?
McKobb
Member
Fri Jun 07 00:53:20
This should be no more than a firing and public shaming.
obaminated
Member
Fri Jun 07 01:02:02
he was hired to protect the school, he failed to do that and people died. cowardice is not an excuse for his occupation.
Paramount
Member
Fri Jun 07 01:41:59
How so? The school is still okay. All windows are intact, no door is broken.

Did his employee tell him that all the children and the teachers has to be protected at ALL cost? That he had to sacrifice his own life to protect the people inside the school? He is not a bodyguard is he? Normally, each person has at the least one bodyguard of his own. This guy was supposed to be a bodyguard for 300 people? Lol.

Also, where were the parents? How could they allow their children to go unarmed to a school? Maybe prosecute the parents for neglecting their children.
Cherub Cow
Member
Fri Jun 07 03:51:25
"cowardice is not an excuse for his occupation"

Traditionally, it is. It *shouldn't* be an excuse, but "I feared for my life" is pretty standard police cowardice.
Average Ameriacn
Member
Fri Jun 07 04:16:46
Maybe he had not enough arms or ammo? Isn't that the real problem that our police force doesn't have enough fully automatic weapons?
Seb
Member
Fri Jun 07 04:48:31
It's bizarre. You can as a US police officer kill an innocent person because you fear for your life; but be jailed if you don't kill someone for fear of your life.

Militarisation of the police - "he's a deserter"
McKobb
Member
Fri Jun 07 05:51:01
It's hard to screen for leeroy Jenkins qualities until tested...which means surviving a fire fight or some other risk taking behavior. Maybe we should only hire PTSD prone vets!
Sam Adams
Member
Fri Jun 07 10:44:12
"Militarisation of the police - "he's a deserter"


Asking someone to do their job is militant?

Lol you retarded cuck.
Rugian
Member
Fri Jun 07 11:04:42
This does reek of being a politicized prosecution, especially as the officer was hardly the only person whose fuck-up/ failure to do their job contributed to the death count.
jergul
large member
Fri Jun 07 11:07:21
Sammy
Waiting for back-up is procedure. So would be his job.
Forwyn
Member
Fri Jun 07 12:03:09
"Waiting for back-up is procedure."

False

"Maybe we should only hire PTSD prone vets!"

Tried that, they fired the Marine for not shooting the suicidal guy
kargen
Member
Fri Jun 07 12:06:01
jergul that may be standard for many scenarios police face. The training for protecting a school makes it clear the officer is suppose to intervene.
Even if he was waiting for back-up you still have the problem of his lies afterwards and his assessment when back-up did arrive.
For whatever reason he didn't do the job he was being paid to do.
I still doubt he will be found guilty of most the charges.
TJ
Member
Fri Jun 07 12:29:12
If he was waiting for backup there was no need for him to be on premise. His purpose was a comfort cookie that had the smell of a fresh cow pile. How many 911 calls do you believe were made during the siege that didn't originate from the officer?

There is no possibility of him spending 96 years in state prison at the age of 56. That sentence was structurally sensationalized to create public outrage. The officer leaped into the twilight zone.



Forwyn
Member
Fri Jun 07 13:03:02
Virtually every agency in the US has modified their training since Columbine to immediately enter, assess, and mitigate these scenarios. That's the entire point of SROs: they are certainly not collecting $100k salaries to intimidate stubborn kids and search lockers, though that's how they tend to pass the time.

He also didn't hide for 2-3 minutes; he hid for 48 minutes, long after Cruz had left, while kids were bleeding out. And then he lied about it.
jergul
large member
Fri Jun 07 13:10:58
Forwyn
The police captain also ordered first responders to stay clear.

He was clearly acting within the framework of procedure.

Kargen
I can't see how he can be found guilty. He was not in command in any event.

Did anyone order him to actively intervene?

TJ
The government demonstrating the need to do something.
Paramount
Member
Fri Jun 07 13:36:08
Anyhoo... buy more guns.
kargen
Member
Fri Jun 07 14:27:09
"The police captain also ordered first responders to stay clear.

He was clearly acting within the framework of procedure."

First responders would include paramedics and of course they would not enter with an active shooter. He was not working in the framework of his job and responsibility. Also the captain made some of his decisions based on the faulty information provided by Peterson.

"Did anyone order him to actively intervene?"

They shouldn't have had to. Protocols were changed. He was stationed there with the understanding he would intervene. If the position was simply an observe and report position there would be no need for all the training. He didn't do his job and he lied to cover that he didn't do his job.
jergul
large member
Fri Jun 07 14:44:25
Kargen
Actually, if the captain felt he was not doing his job, then she would be remiss not to instruct him on what to do.

She also ordered other officers not to intervene in an ongoing shooting, so Peterson was certainly acting within the framework of her leadership.

It is quite easy to understand. You cannot order officers to go into harms way with insufficient information and support.

Nor could any procedure instruct officers to behave in such a manner (the liabilities and union uproar that would incur renders it impossible).

Yet for some reason, you expect officers to do it voluntarily on their own volation.
TJ
Member
Fri Jun 07 14:50:39
"Nikolas Cruz, age 19 at the time of the incident, was a former student of
"Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School. Cruz was a troubled child and young adult who
displayed aggressive and violent tendencies as early as 3 years old. Cruz struggled in
academics and attended several schools. There are reports of behavioral issues at all of the
schools he attended. He was under the care of mental health professionals from age 11
until he turned age 18 and refused further services."


Seems plenty of individuals dropped the ball when it comes to Cruz.
kargen
Member
Fri Jun 07 18:00:48
"Actually, if the captain felt he was not doing his job, then she would be remiss not to instruct him on what to do."

Again, her decisions were based on the faulty information and the lies this officer told. She assumed he had correctly assessed the situation and relayed an accurate account of what was taking place. He did not. That is on him.

He should have been inside long before others arrived to be told where to set up. That was what he was there for. He was not there as an observe and advise capacity. He was there to intervene.

You seem to be under the impression that this was just a normal assignment any officer might have any given day. It was not. It was and is a very specific assignment with protocols put in place that are not in place in other situations.

He knew what was expected of him when he took the job. THe expectation was if there is a possible shooting intervene. So yeah I would expect him to do just that. An officer that just happened to be near-by would have a different protocol assigned to him.

And there is still the matter of his repeated lies trying to cover his failure. For me it would have been much more forgivable if he had just admitted hey I fucked up and froze. Instead he lied and that lie prolonged how long it took other officers to enter the building.
Wrath of Orion
Member
Fri Jun 07 23:03:25
"It was and is a very specific assignment with protocols put in place that are not in place in other situations.

He knew what was expected of him when he took the job. THe expectation was if there is a possible shooting intervene."

Links? (not necessarily for this specific case, but for agencies in general)

It's an honest request. It sounds plausible, but I know nothing about the topic and wouldn't mind reading a little about it.
Seb
Member
Sun Jun 09 13:22:39
Mais dans ce pays-ci il est bon de tuer de tems en tems un gendarme pour encourager les autres.
Cherub Cow
Member
Mon Jun 10 00:57:30
*« de [temps] en [temps] »
Average Ameriacn
Member
Mon Jun 10 00:57:42
Seb has been hacked by the Chinese!
Seb
Member
Mon Jun 10 01:34:35
CC:

See chapter 23.

http://www...R2DmXyozsI&cshid=1560148311424

I did think about correcting it, but it seemed like unnecessary fiddling.
Cherub Cow
Member
Mon Jun 10 03:36:20
Yep, that's an archaic form.
Seb
Member
Mon Jun 10 04:51:04
Indeed.
jergul
large member
Mon Jun 10 06:39:17
We should demand consistency.

Hell aint got no ragequiting like a dissed hoe.

Away with these archaic forms.
jergul
large member
Mon Jun 10 06:43:45
shérif*

I would have gone with that however. Voltaire's point was uncouth practices abroad.
Seb
Member
Mon Jun 10 07:29:25
Jergul:

Well, having decided that to highlight the absurdity it was better to quote in French as far as possible, and having realised that it was archaic, I decided it would be odd to update it to modern French but not translate it. I was also not entirely confident I wouldn't miss anything and have something that looked like:

"I reckon the lady doth protest to much".

Of course I should probably have gone for something as you suggest for gendarme.
Forwyn
Member
Mon Jun 10 09:16:59
"Links? (not necessarily for this specific case, but for agencies in general)

It's an honest request. It sounds plausible, but I know nothing about the topic and wouldn't mind reading a little about it."

Most of the articles available are propaganda meant to get districts to spend more money on SROs. But here's one:

"How should school resource officers respond to active shooter incidents? NASRO trains school resource officers to move directly to the threat, as quickly as possible and then to neutralize the threat to prevent further injury or loss of life."

Right below that they go on to recommend against allowing teachers to be armed, because only trained LEOs can be expected to reliably respond to an incident. lulz

http://nasro.org/frequently-asked-questions/
jergul
large member
Mon Jun 10 10:01:56
Forwyn
Since you went there. Do you have any feeling that "best practices" as outlined by the non-profit organization NASRO is indeed widespread?

The question also begs asking: Why is a non-profit offering training to resources officers in the first place?

If it trains officers to move directly to the threat, then the assumption has to be that this response needed training.
TJ
Member
Mon Jun 10 10:36:14
(CNN)When Coral Springs police officers arrived at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, on February 14 in the midst of the school shooting crisis, many officers were surprised to find not only that Broward County Sheriff's Deputy Scot Peterson, the armed school resource officer, had not entered the building, but that three other Broward County Sheriff's deputies were also outside the school and had not entered, Coral Springs sources tell CNN. The deputies had their pistols drawn and were behind their vehicles, the sources said, and not one of them had gone into the school.

With direction from the Broward deputies who were outside, Coral Springs police soon entered the building where the shooter was. New Broward County Sheriff's deputies arrived on the scene, and two of those deputies and an officer from Sunrise, Florida, joined the Coral Springs police as they went into the building.
Some Coral Springs police were stunned and upset that the four original Broward County Sheriff's deputies who were first on the scene did not appear to join them as they entered the school, Coral Springs sources tell CNN. It's unclear whether the shooter was still in the building when they arrived.

http://www...ng-broward-deputies/index.html
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Here is another interesting link that includes a video with Peterson defending the ROCS program.

Five things to know about Peterson.

http://www.policeone.com/active-shooter/articles/471533006-5-things-to-know-about-Fla-SRO-Scot-Peterson/
Forwyn
Member
Mon Jun 10 12:20:32
@jergul: Yes, it is widespread. Despite the decentralized nature of policing in the US, most practices and policies have become standardized because of non-profit groups just like this one, that are birthed from police unions and create pipelines for former cops to provide training to other.
jergul
large member
Mon Jun 10 12:46:57
Forwyn
In this case then, it would be important to see if the sheriff deputy had done the training and if the department and school had followed up on other recommended best practices (for example yearly drills, and incorporating best practices in employee procedures).

Otherwise, you just have a guy doing a job as he thought is should be done.



Cherub Cow
Member
Mon Jun 10 15:27:33
[Seb]: “I decided it would be odd to update it to modern French”

For the record, it would not be *you* updating the French — the spelling was corrected in subsequent editions of « Candide » such that finding the archaic spelling requires finding the rare book (i.e., it is more difficult to find the archaic spelling in print in this case). You can test this by Googling for the old phrase spelling in quotation marks and then googling the new phrase spelling — not many sources for the old and a *lot* for the new.
Seb
Member
Mon Jun 10 17:18:30
CC:

The whole point of using the French was because the English translation phase, through over use, has come to have a more cynical connotation (at least here). More akin to "the beatings will continue until morale improves" whereas the original context highlights more the absurdity.

The first plaintext I found actually had the archaic (which I verified as accurate from the scan I linked to). As I said, I felt leaving it was more in keeping with the message I wanted to convey - whether it would be me updating it, or me hunting for a more up to date version to quote.

I did not anticipate someone caring so much that it was in the original archaic.
hood
Member
Mon Jun 10 17:27:03
seb really cannot handle being criticized in even the most benign ways.
Seb
Member
Mon Jun 10 18:06:46
Hood:

Yes, we know you also like being incredibly and tediously querulous about something that isn't actually a mistake.

I wouldn't be needing to explain my reasoning at enormous lengths if people were not setting out to score points where there are in-fact none to be scored.
hood
Member
Mon Jun 10 19:22:58
Sorry brah, this ain't about me. I'm not throwing a tizzy because someone said archaic french is archaic. I think everyone would have been satisfied with your statement "I chose to quote the archaic form."
Wrath of Orion
Member
Mon Jun 10 21:14:44
Thanks for that link, Forwyn.
Cherub Cow
Member
Tue Jun 11 00:53:51
[hood]: “seb really cannot handle being criticized in even the most benign ways.”

+1

[hood]: “I think everyone would have been satisfied with your statement "I chose to quote the archaic form."”

+1
That kind of statement would have gotten a simple “k” from me.
jergul
large member
Tue Jun 11 01:07:14
Its actually about both of you. You stalk Seb.
Forwyn
Member
Tue Jun 11 01:14:41
A forum such as this is driven by disagreement. Plenty of those remaining read several posts without responding to most, because this isn't a reddit upvoting circlejerk.
jergul
large member
Tue Jun 11 01:28:10
Seb would be the exception that proves that rule. Amazing what crawls out of the woodwork to snipe at seb with inane comments.

I find it vexing because it cuts into my virulent disagreement with seb time.

Anyways, it is good that this is going to trial. We should get a lot more detail to spice our speculations.

obaminated
Member
Tue Jun 11 02:05:31
it really isnt amazing. seb responds to every comment directed at him. he is as thin skinned as cuckhat. everytime i ever direct a response to seb it is because i am bored and want to see how lazy and off topic i can be while still getting a response from him. he never lets me down.
Dukhat
Member
Tue Jun 11 03:42:58
lol. Reddit is better as long as you don't enter toxic subreddits. Smart redditors will only downvoted poorly sourced arguments and not stuff they disagree with.
Cherub Cow
Member
Tue Jun 11 03:55:58
[Forwyn]: "A forum such as this is driven by disagreement. Plenty of those remaining read several posts without responding to most, because this isn't a reddit upvoting circlejerk."

+1
Totes.
Sending you UGT gold now.
Delude
Member
Tue Jun 11 07:52:39
Seb is "stalked" because is a very vocal poster who expounds upon various topics. Though at times is prone to provide a concise and sound arguments, but more often than not gets in over his head by not being able to utilize common sense, use perspective, and lacks empathy.
hood
Member
Tue Jun 11 07:52:44
jergul, I call people out on occasion. Seb might receive more callouts than the average, but he isn't singularly special; he's not being treated differently. He just responds much more often than other people. Makes it more memorable than a random "uh, you dumb" that receives no response.
Seb
Member
Tue Jun 11 08:06:23
Hood:

A tizzy? Um. No. I'm patiently explaining why I wrote it the way I wrote it, because people are unnecessarily cavilling.

See, you say you'd be happy if I said "I chose to quote the archaic". That's exactly what I said. You are objecting to the fact I explained why I chose the archaic.

Quibble quibble quibble.

This is why we can't have nice things Hood.

Obaminated:
Yes. Why else would I come to a message board if not to pass time? It would be really fucking weird to come here and just read or post without engaging. Another board/community - fine - but this has a static (minus natural death rate) membership and most of you aren't bringing sparkling new ideas. Interpreting engagement as an emotional response is ... weird.
Seb
Member
Tue Jun 11 08:08:29
Jergul:

Agreed.
hood
Member
Tue Jun 11 08:17:34
You said that, yes, and then you went deeper and got into a whole thing about it, culminating in suggesting people were somehow invested in your decision to quote archaic French. You really didn't need to go further than "I decided to quote the original form."

You'll notice I don't actually have any horse in this race. I just made an observation about your psyche. I, too, don't care that you decided to quote old French.
jergul
large member
Tue Jun 11 08:40:37
Hood
It is well-established that you and CC are fuckbuddies.

I would be the neutral observer here. But if I am a bully in general, then at least I am a solitary one.

I have never been a fan of middle school herd bullies.

Forwyn
Does CC even get the irony of upvoting your comment about "because this isn't a reddit upvoting circlejerk"?
hood
Member
Tue Jun 11 08:53:05
One can be fuckbuddies and still remain objective. That's the point of staying fuckbuddies and not getting fully entangled in a relationship. Friendly != Hive mind, shared or similar opinions.

The awkward part of all of this is that it wasn't CC who set Seb off on his little tangent. You did, jergul. He seemed content to leave it as is after his "here's where I got it, I agree it's archaic" post until you commented. So any accusations of cahoots with CC gets soundly rejected by the rim (basketball reference).
jergul
large member
Tue Jun 11 08:57:36
Hood
Lets just say that you cannot be objective in any discussion that involves seb and CC.

You will inevitable dogpile Seb if CC is involved.

Its as predictable as a Pavlovian response.
McKobb
Member
Tue Jun 11 08:58:28
This thread is officially a pissbuck!
Seb
Member
Tue Jun 11 09:02:18
Hood:

Yes, I went deeper into it when further objections were raised. I'm not the one raising objections. Even now. One has to wonder why you at so obsessed.
Seb
Member
Tue Jun 11 09:38:01
Btw, I think jergul understands my post to him perfectly in the spirit it was intended.
hood
Member
Tue Jun 11 10:02:09
One comment about your frail psyche is obsessed? This coming from the person who just suggested one shouldn't read emotion from posts made here? Or am I obsessed for responding to you? Either way, I smell hypocrite.
TJ
Member
Tue Jun 11 10:05:52
There will be major unintended consequences from charging Peterson. Speaking of intended...
jergul
large member
Tue Jun 11 10:55:33
Hood
Going directly to the adhoms@seb would be characteristic of your obsession, yes.

TJ
Since this has gone haywire. I just caught a credible theory based on cabinet meetings in Japan.

Japan surrendered not because of the nuclear bombs (that had no impact at all on the war party position), but rather because the peace party was able to convince the emperor that the USSR was incompatible with Imperial Japan. Or that the dynasty would end if the Soviets gained enough leverage to be a significant party in the peace settlement.

The emperor headed the next cabinet meeting and basically ordered government to surrender.
Seb
Member
Tue Jun 11 11:09:16
Hood:
Well, yes. You aren't engaging with the content, you are directing your argument at the man not the argument.
TJ
Member
Tue Jun 11 11:24:38
jergul:

Credible theories...

I'm not going there. ;)
hood
Member
Tue Jun 11 11:41:35
jergul, you might want to look up adhom. See, it's a logical fallacy when presenting an argument. I presented no logical argument nor any argument whatsoever. There is no adhominem to speak of. I made an observation about Seb. It was not in relation to any argument I put forward.

Seb, as I stated, hypocritical. Every comment about you must be rife with deeper meaning. But nothing you say is any more than casual commentary completely devoid of emotional attachment. As I originally stated, you are extremely frail. One of these days you might nut the fuck up and not freak out over every little comment.

Oh, sorry, "make multiple posts completely devoid of emotional response to empassionately defend your errors," not freak out. My mistake.
Seb
Member
Tue Jun 11 11:54:58
Hood:

Good grief. You yourself admit to jergul you only stopped to make an observation about me. That does rather imply a bit of an obsession, unlike engagement in what is being said. Here you are, furiously speculating about my emotional state...

Tell me Hood, do I haunt your every waking moment and every fevered dream?

hood
Member
Tue Jun 11 12:02:03
I admit to reading most of what is posted on this board. I have followed this thread since the beginning (note the second post). The extra 10 seconds to post a response after catching up is hardly taxing or endemic of an obsession.


"furiously speculating about my emotional state..."

Only as furiously as you are denying it.
Seb
Member
Tue Jun 11 12:23:49
Hood:

It's quite normal to respond to people addressing you. What you are doing is somewhat different.

For instance, I hadn't even considered Jerguls first post to me a criticism, rather him joining in my flippancy.

Yet from it you infer fragility. Your interest is in me, not the content.

And felt the need to pass comment. And continue to do so. And let's be fair, there is a pattern here which I'm not the only one to notice. And look at the defensiveness! So prickly!

Could it be you are projecting?

I reckon you doth protest too much.
hood
Member
Tue Jun 11 12:42:56
Your sandy vagina is leaking. It probably went to join your spine.
Seb
Member
Tue Jun 11 12:47:46
The sexual imagery really doesn't help provide an impression of detachment Hood. All very Freudian.

The vagina, an object of desire, but sandy and abrasive - representing the suffering that engaging with the object of your desire entails.
hood
Member
Tue Jun 11 13:24:14
Freudian indeed, since he's been proven wildly incorrect for decades now, much like your analysis.
Seb
Member
Tue Jun 11 13:37:58
Oh I don't know Hood. Even your handle is evocative of phalic imagery - a foreskin. I think it's all too obvious where your subconscious desire lies. We all know why you reflexively seek my attention.
hood
Member
Tue Jun 11 14:04:26
Yeah, my nickname refers to the front of a car. You know, the hood.

Methinks you need to stop salivating over this idea you have that I want your junk. I'm starting to think you're projecting certain feelings onto me.
Cherub Cow
Member
Tue Jun 11 14:07:25
[Seb]: "And let's be fair, there is a pattern here which I'm not the only one to notice."

lulz... if Seb is referring to Jergul as another person who's noticing this supposed "pattern", then we know it's completely full of shit. Once Seb and Jergul start agreeing or filling a thread, logic and reason has officially departed.

..
[Jergul]: "Does CC even get the irony of upvoting your comment about "because this isn't a reddit upvoting circlejerk"?"

Shit! Jergul got me! I must not have realized that Forwyn was criticizing upvote culture after I was the only one in the thread to give pseudo-upvotes! How could I have possibly pseudo-upvoted a comment that was outright against upvote sites?? I'm such a fool!!

Forwyn: can you send back my UGT gold? I didnt understand the irony, thx!!

lol.. Seb and Jergul, resident idiots forever. Hot Rod's successors.

..
[McKobb]: "This thread is officially a pissbuck!"

Seems like the original story is dry until the case gets going :/
jergul
large member
Tue Jun 11 14:47:09
Hood
What part of "attacking the man, not the argument" don't you understand?

CC
You are just so kewl.

I hope you don't mind my not spending too much time understanding the inner workings of bullies. The character flaw might be contagious.
Snuke
Member
Tue Jun 11 14:48:15
He didn't do anything wrong.

This guy is essentially the NRA scapegoat.
Seb
Member
Tue Jun 11 17:08:59
Smile:

Yup.
Seb
Member
Tue Jun 11 17:12:55
Hood:

The. Front. Of. A. Car.

Classic sublimation of repressed desires into a phalic allegory more acceptable to your self image.
Seb
Member
Tue Jun 11 17:14:02
Snuke:

The yup was for you. Deviating back to the subject at hand, it's fucking awful isn't it?
Forwyn
Member
Tue Jun 11 17:17:13
Yeah, it's fucking awful to pay a guy over $100k a year to search lockers, intimidate trouble makers, and cower in a stairwell during an incident.
Cherub Cow
Member
Tue Jun 11 17:50:12
[Jergul]: "You are just so kewl.
I hope you don't mind my not spending too much time understanding the inner workings of bullies. The character flaw might be contagious."

No admission that Jergul failed to see that I was in on the sarcasm. Surprise, surprise. To the bitter end, Jergul is an unrepentant, hypocritical retard who fails at any intellectual honesty or any good work ethic. He and Seb deserve each other.
hood
Member
Tue Jun 11 18:05:16
Seb, I think it's time to tell your wife that she was just cover.
jergul
large member
Wed Jun 12 02:55:48
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You think I did not recognize your kewl kid cynism?

Its as much your calling card as your bullying is.
Seb
Member
Wed Jun 12 03:18:35
Hood, you are projecting so hard theres a cinema that's had to close down.


Though probably one of those small, shabby ones in the basement of an old hotel in the red light district of a developing country. The ones with sticky floors and suspicious stains on the upholstery.
hood
Member
Wed Jun 12 07:28:30
And now you're just recycling my less-than-a-day-old lines. Does it bother you that I can crawl inside your head and shake things up so easily? Is that why you're lashing out with these homosexual undertoned comments?

Don't be jealous. Some people are more easily rattled.
Seb
Member
Wed Jun 12 07:58:25
Oh hood. Hood, hood, hood.

Try searching for "projecting" in this thread and see where the first hit is.

And then read your last post again with that in mind.

Seb
Member
Wed Jun 12 08:00:59
This is a bit like the twist in fight club. Only the reverse: Tyler Durden realises he's just been the fantasy of a frustrated insurance clerk doing a dream job all along.
Seb
Member
Wed Jun 12 08:02:20
Projecting with a low watt bulb.
hood
Member
Wed Jun 12 08:19:36
Projecting feelings of inadequacy != Projecting feelings of homosexuality. But nice try. If you need a good divorce lawyer...
hood
Member
Wed Jun 12 08:22:20
Although it should be noted that you were also stealing my insults with your original projecting comment as well, as I had started this interaction by pointing out your weak self esteem via your need to constantly defend yourself even against the slightest of criticisms.

Step off my dick, brah.
hood
Member
Wed Jun 12 08:27:39
Pretty sad state of affairs.

Me: you're using the adult version of "no, YOU ARE," you half-wit turd muffin.
Seb: LOL I USED THE WORD PROJECTING FIRST
Me: oh hey, another instance of you using "no, YOU ARE!" God you're a sad creature.
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