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Rugian
Member
Thu Jul 18 10:32:55
Now that the Squad has been adopted as the face of the Dems, we can represent their rabid anti-Semitism and hatred of America as constituting the official stance of the party. The Trump 2020 train is looking pretty good right now folks.

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Omar introduces resolution defending boycott of Israel, likens it to boycotts of Nazi Germany, Soviet Union

By Lukas Mikelionis | Fox News

http://www...-nazi-germany-soviet-union.amp

(Cue 50 posts from tw denying that a boycott campaign that focuses exclusively on the world's only Jewish state, despite there being way worse state actors in the world, isn't anti-Semitic)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Jul 18 11:43:10
"Omar’s resolution seeks to push back against U.S. laws banning the boycott of Israel"

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!

i didn't even know it was illegal to boycott Israel
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and now i'm going to have to be more disgusted & shocked... as that article did a piss poor explanation, i just googled...

this appears to be what's in play (PLEASE correct me if wrong):
http://www.../1/hres/BILLS-116hres496ih.xml

"Israel" does NOT even appear in it

jesus christ, Fox & the right are garbage... i read a tweet last night about this israel nazi boycott bullshit & stupid me, i actually believed she was calling to boycott Israel


this is the topic of the bill:
"Affirming that all Americans have the right to participate in boycotts in pursuit of civil and human rights at home and abroad, as protected by the First Amendment to the Constitution."


this is not shocking... nor vile... nor unimaginable... at all

but bring on how Omar is comparing Israelis to Nazis or whatever other nonsense, i guess we can expect worse than the false smears of the Green New Deal
obaminated
Member
Thu Jul 18 11:46:53
aaaaaaaand tw falls for the bait. jesus. that is embarrassing.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Jul 18 11:50:49
please explain the bait you complete idiot

"Omar introduces resolution defending boycott of Israel, likens it to boycotts of Nazi Germany, Soviet Union"
that's a Fox News headline... the MAIN source of idiots like you for getting 'news'

Israel is not even mentioned, so NO, it's not comparing to nazis... & only mention of Nazis is:

"(2) boycotting Nazi Germany from March 1933 to October 1941 in response to the dehumanization of the Jewish people in the lead-up to the Holocaust;"

that sounds like she was on the Jew side there...


this is getting beyond disgraceful
Sam Adams
Member
Thu Jul 18 11:53:49
Omar supports muslim terrorism. It is known.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Jul 18 11:58:04
this is the tweet i saw last night:

"
AOC: US border detention facilities are like Nazi concentration camps.

Omar: America must boycott & sanction the world's only Jewish state -- the necessity of which was made clear by the Holocaust -- just like America boycotted...the Nazis.

Despicable.
"
by 'Guy Benson' who claims to be a Fox News contributer & editor of TownHall.com


first off, AOC didn't say "nazi", they aren't the only version of concentration camps ('avenge me!' - red dawn)

but more importantly it has the "only Jewish state" boycott wording Rugian used in the nonsense about Omar



again, if there is some other bill, PLEASE correct me, it would actually comfort me if the dishonesty has not stooped so low as it seems
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Jul 18 12:07:23
...and -if- Israel is the only country its illegal to boycott (& that's why these liars say she's attacking Israel), then we've once again established that supposed non-existence of allegiance

...and it still doesn't make the bill offensive in any way
kargen
Member
Thu Jul 18 12:23:03
tumbleweed do you know what the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement is? With her mentioning that how could this not be about Israel?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Jul 18 12:28:50
"
The Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement (also known as BDS) is a Palestinian-led[1][2][3] campaign promoting various forms of boycott against Israel until it meets what the campaign describes as Israel's obligations under international law,[4] defined as withdrawal from the occupied territories, removal of the separation barrier in the West Bank, full equality for Arab-Palestinian citizens of Israel, and "respecting, protecting, and promoting the rights of Palestinian refugees to return to their homes and properties".[4] The campaign is organized and coordinated by the Palestinian BDS National Committee.
"

explain why America/Americans needs to prevent this... especially why Trump supporters should care as he advocates being less involved in the problems of others


"how could this not be about Israel"

because the resolution is literally world-wide... as Rugian wanted
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Jul 18 12:32:44
does anyone know what countries are illegal to boycott (if any)? (i only took Fox News' word that it is for Israel)
Trolly
Member
Thu Jul 18 12:42:40
Jewish Voice For Peace praises the resolution. But mtard an rugina and crew "muh israel!" LOL

These are some tards who complain about free speech and this is a resolution defending it and they whine about it. What a bunch of contradicting hot rods.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Jul 18 13:00:37
it's going to be hard to get to 50 posts... but reposting this as kinda related:

Trump has called for boycotts of Macy's... and Apple... and Harley Davidson... and CNN... and Megyn Kelly... and AT&T... and Univision... and Rolling Stone... and HBO... and Mexico......and Italy... and Glenfiddich Scotch...
(that's just on Twitter, may have missed some)

(his reasoning for the Scotch boycott was an enemy of his was voted "Top Scot" in an online poll by Glenfiddich... and no, was not a joke)
kargen
Member
Thu Jul 18 13:25:30
The house is set to vote on a non binding resolution condemning the BDS.

"That the House of Representatives—
(1) opposes the Global Boycott, Divestment,
and Sanctions Movement (BDS Movement) targeting Israel, including efforts to target United
States companies that are engaged in commercial
activities that are legal under United States law, and all efforts to delegitimize the State of Israel;
(2) urges Israelis and Palestinians to return to
direct negotiations as the only way to achieve an end to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict;
(3) supports the full implementation of the
United States-Israel Strategic Partnership Act of
2014 (Public Law 113–296; 128 Stat. 4075) and
VerDate Nov 24 2008 11:12 Jul 11, 2019

new efforts to enhance government-wide, coordinated United States-Israel scientific and technological co3 operation in civilian areas, such as with respect to energy, water, agriculture, alternative fuel tech5 nology, civilian space technology, and security, in
order to counter the effects of actions to boycott, divest from, or sanction Israel; and
(4) reaffirms its strong support for a negotiated solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict resultingin two states—a democratic Jewish State of Israel, and a viable, democratic Palestinian state—living side-by-side in peace, security, and mutual recognition."

Omar has introduced her resolution in response to that resolution. Her resolution is unlikely to make it out of committee. It is about Israel though and even you Tumbleweed can't be so delusional to think otherwise.

http://doc...16-HRes246-E000179-Amdt-78.pdf

full copy of the proposed resolution condemning the BDS.


Trolly
Member
Thu Jul 18 13:44:05
Lol individual states for many years now have passed resolutions to condemn such movements to that would prevent the state from entering into contracts with companies that want to boycott Israel.

Yet this resolution, which includes the country Israel, but other countries is allowing the first amendment not to be trifled with and allow the boycott of countries that coincidentally involves Israel

But retards like rugina, mtard, forwyn, and kargen join the fray that this is about antisemitism. But are you not champions of free speech?

Apparently they are not unless it fits their perspective
Forwyn
Member
Thu Jul 18 13:45:47
Continuing to live rent-free, lulz
Forwyn
Member
Thu Jul 18 13:46:07
Trolly = Cuckhat, lulz
Trolly
Member
Thu Jul 18 13:47:43
So what does this mean?

If Israel -country- does something wrong you cannot condemn them because antisemitism! Lol
Trolly
Member
Thu Jul 18 13:48:18
Forwyn = forever dumbass
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Jul 18 13:53:16
and here's the full-text of Omar's (from link above)

RESOLUTION

Affirming that all Americans have the right to participate in boycotts in pursuit of civil and human rights at home and abroad, as protected by the First Amendment to the Constitution.

Whereas boycotts have been effectively used in the United States by advocates for equal rights since the Boston Tea Party and include boycotts led by civil rights activists during the 1950s and 1960s in order to advocate for racial equality, such as the Montgomery bus boycott, and promote workers’ rights, such as the United Farm Workers-led boycott of table grapes;

Whereas Americans of conscience have a proud history of participating in boycotts to advocate for human rights abroad, including—

(1) attempting to slow Japanese aggression in the Pacific by boycotting Imperial Japan in 1937 and 1938;

(2) boycotting Nazi Germany from March 1933 to October 1941 in response to the dehumanization of the Jewish people in the lead-up to the Holocaust;

(3) the United States Olympic Committee boycotting the 1980 summer Olympics in Moscow in protest of the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in the preceding year; and

(4) leading the campaign in the 1980s to boycott South African goods in opposition to apartheid in that country;

Whereas the Supreme Court, in the 1966 case Rosenblatt v. Baer, held that the First Amendment to the Constitution ensures that “[c]riticism of government is at the very center of the constitutionally protected area of free discussion”;

Whereas the Supreme Court held in the 1982 case NAACP v. Claiborne Hardware that “[t]he right of the States to regulate economic activity could not justify a complete prohibition against a nonviolent, politically motivated boycott … .”;

Whereas the Supreme Court has recognized various activities as “expressive conduct” warranting constitutional protection, such as flag burning, wearing black armbands, silent sit-ins, and creating and designing custom wedding cakes; and

Whereas despite this tradition, governments and nongovernmental organizations alike have sought to criminalize, stigmatize, and delegitimize the use of boycotts in an attempt to stifle constitutionally protected political expression: Now, therefore, be it

Resolved, That the House of Representatives—

(1) affirms that all Americans have the right to participate in boycotts in pursuit of civil and human rights at home and abroad, as protected by the First Amendment to the Constitution;

(2) opposes unconstitutional legislative efforts to limit the use of boycotts to further civil rights at home and abroad; and

(3) urges Congress, States, and civil rights leaders from all communities to endeavor to preserve the freedom of advocacy for all by opposing antiboycott resolutions and legislation.

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point out what is anti-semitic or objectionable

as for the BDS (not mentioned in Omar's) i don't know the international law regarding Israel / Palestinians... if they have a case Israel is violating, boycotts are not only fine, they should be expected... even if not, people should be allowed to boycott if they want to (see Trump's... & many for purely personal reasons)


if Trump introduced the exact text of Omar's i assume his horde would love it... (& i might try to find a way to criticize it :p)
Trolly
Member
Thu Jul 18 13:55:37
Uh oh here comes the fray: its antisemitism!

Free speech whaaaaa?
Trolly
Member
Thu Jul 18 13:58:37
How does this work?
Boycott north Korea, Russia, china, India, Palestine, etc.

But Israel?

Nope can't do it. You're being antisemitic.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Jul 18 14:26:12
and for complete clarity, she ISN'T calling for a boycott of Israel (or anyone) in that resolution


the sum total of what we are supposed to be outraged by seems to be that Omar supports the right of people to boycott any country on the planet in pursuit of civil and human rights... and personally supports Palestinian efforts to do so by people who feel international law is being violated (although none of that personal view in the resolution)


feel free to try to re-characterize that in a fair way where it is also shocking & outrageous

...(post #9)
kargen
Member
Thu Jul 18 14:50:19
I'm not saying it is antisemitism. I am saying the resolution she wants introduced is about Israel. Both resolutions are non binding so both are nothing more than a waste of time. The house needs to quit with the non binding nonsense and start doing some work.

"as for the BDS (not mentioned in Omar's)"

She did mention the BDS in her interview where she introduced her resolution to the public. Given that we know her resolution is about Israel.

Both resolutions are a waste of time but of the two I think hers best represents what the USA is suppose to be about. That said it is still 100% in response to the earlier resolution and about Israel.

One of the founders and prominent leaders of the BDS refuses to admit Israel has the right to exist and has called for Jews to be removed from Israel (referred to him as Palestine) so Omar doesn't offer up an accurate depiction of the BDS in her comments but that is a different argument.

That said if people want to boycott companies that do business with Israel or any other country by all means have at it.
obaminated
Member
Thu Jul 18 15:31:10
This thread is hilarious. Tw and cuckhat justifying anti Israel behavior cause their prized Muslim bitch forced them to.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Jul 18 15:56:14
"Both resolutions are a waste of time but of the two I think hers best represents what the USA is suppose to be about"

thanks... i hope you will maintain that view in the upcoming storm of lies


"Tw and cuckhat justifying anti Israel behavior cause their prized Muslim"

i've criticized Israel before... and that's not unAmerican... but please feel free to continue your allegiance (that we can't mention, as that would be anti-semitic)
Trolly
Member
Thu Jul 18 18:56:37
What's hilarious is that mtard and forwyn thinks I'm dikhat lol
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Jul 18 21:17:00
another Fox headline:

"Jay Sekulow and Mark Goldfeder: Ilhan Omar’s outrageous anti-Israel resolution should be defeated in House"

with huge callot text of
"
And in an appalling insulting move, the text of the Omar resolution itself compares a boycott of the Jewish state today to boycotts of Nazi Germany – a nation that carried out the mass murder of 6 million Jews in the Holocaust.
"
http://www...on-should-be-defeated-in-house

fuck Fox News

obaminated
Member
Thu Jul 18 21:26:32
its an opinion piece, bud. hahahaha, you are basically willing to turn into mountme if it means you still oppose trump. this is hilarious to watch in real time.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Jul 18 21:33:46
another Fox News headline
"Sen. Tillis: 'I can't think of anything more audacious' than Omar's resolution on Israel boycott"

fuck Fox News


but yeah, pretend Fox News viewers are getting accurate fair and balanced information
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Jul 18 21:39:49
by the way, ^that one isn't in the opinion section


and saying 'outrageous anti-Israel resolution' & that the 'resolution itself compares a boycott of the Jewish state today to boycotts of Nazi Germany' are just lies, not opinions
obaminated
Member
Thu Jul 18 21:42:49
http://www...on-should-be-defeated-in-house

is an opinion piece.

the other headline is literally a fucking quote from a politician.

you don't seem to understand how journalism functions.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Jul 18 21:42:49
...and by Trump's lawyer no less... there, Trump is involved sorta

(post #14)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Jul 18 21:53:41
...and i'm not cherry-picking... those 2 articles plus OP are only 3 i found on the topic... if anyone sees a Fox News article that notes their other 3 articles are misleading bullshit, please post

plus still waiting for the unthinkable, vile, too horrible to mention, worst things ever said by a politician list of America-hating, Jew-hating, terrorist-loving comments made by AOC, Pressley, Tlaib & Omar

(#15)
Dukhat
Member
Thu Jul 18 22:41:33
Republicans:

Hates Mexicans. Check.
Hates Black people. Check.
Hates Women. Check.
Hates Gays. Check.
Hates Globalists (Code for Jews) Check.
Hates basically all non-white-males.

"OMGERD ILHAN IS ANTISEMITIC" doesn't have any sway because:

1) Israel does not equal (=!) jewish people.
2) You don't suddenly get to call people anti-semitic and pretend you're against bigotry when your entire worldview and post history is about attacking minorities.

Sidenote: There are in fact more jews living in New York than Israel itself and many of them oppose Israeli policy especially under Netanyahu.

So GFY.
obaminated
Member
Thu Jul 18 23:01:18
i guess cuckdick is more intuned with the kids. what does GFY mean?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Jul 18 23:11:48
GFY = go fuck yourself

as to "the other headline is literally a fucking quote from a politician. you don't seem to understand how journalism functions"

yeah, because obviously every misleading comment said has to be turned into a headline (w/ article supporting the comment)

here's a journalistic headline: "Republicans continue false smears of Omar"... then include Tillis & Sekulow comments


Fox News doesn't seem to understand how journalism functions
mexicantardnado
Member
Fri Jul 19 04:00:22
duuur of fox news duuur was a cock duuur i'll be duuuur slurpying it duuuuuuur
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Jul 19 14:38:26
"I just heard Omar put in a sanctions bill against Israel"
~Trump

there, he's joined the lies...shocker
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