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tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Jul 28 22:17:12
There is an active shooting incident at a garlic festival in Gilroy, California, according to police.

Santa Clara Valley Medical Center spokeswoman Joy Alexiou told ABC News that the hospital has received two victims from the shooting and expects three more. She had no information on their conditions.

No word from police on how many have been shot or the conditions of the victims.

This is a developing story. Please check back for updates.

http://abc...l-california/story?id=64624542

Gilroy demographics

73.75% White
6.21% Asian
1.71% Black or African American

if this is an unplanned shooting... long time listeners know i would guess black (for a spontaneous public gathering shooting)... so could be interesting (unless it's a planned mass shooting)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Jul 28 22:29:29
kinda sounds like a planned shooting so probably won't be breaking any norms... other than being at a garlic festival
kargen
Member
Sun Jul 28 22:37:40
I found an updated article but will let others take a guess if they wish.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Jul 28 22:53:10
witness on TV says white male so betting is closed

if it turns out he merely became enraged after a garlic dispute we'll still have something of note
Dukhat
Member
Sun Jul 28 22:59:09
Angry white men be causing lots of trouble nowadays.
Rugian
Member
Mon Jul 29 00:21:21
Still a safer place than Detroit.
Rugian
Member
Mon Jul 29 00:27:01
13% of the population, 54% of the murders.

"When the race of the offender was known, 54.2 percent were Black or African American, 43.1 percent were White, and 2.6 percent were of other races. The race was unknown for 5,368 offenders."

http://ucr.../topic-pages/expanded-homicide

Black people be crazy yo.
obaminated
Member
Mon Jul 29 00:52:16
definitely don't move there. but cuckhat you should. move to detriot to virtue signal to your ex-wife, she will be proud of you. that's how you'll win her back.
Paramount
Member
Mon Jul 29 01:45:16
Buy more guns and carry on.
Paramount
Member
Mon Jul 29 08:33:49
Do they know anything about the motive yet? Is it another alt-rightist? A cuck? An incel?
CrownRoyal
Member
Mon Jul 29 08:51:52
how come nobody returned fire? Where were all the good guys with guns? Train and arm garlic festival marshals. Federal money too, you cant trust Cali state anti 2nd amendment cucks to do it
kargen
Member
Mon Jul 29 10:31:41
Unless the guy left some kind of manifesto or something probably they will not know a motive. One article I read said someone yelled at the shooter why are you doing this and he replied I am angry.
He cut through a fence to get into the festival.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Jul 29 11:22:21
the '5 fast facts' page on shooter:
http://heavy.com/news/2019/07/santino-william-legan/
Seb
Member
Mon Jul 29 12:53:40
Killer confirmed as a Sam Adams.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Jul 29 13:05:24
[from the 5 fast facts, for non-clickers]

he was anti-hispanics & 'silicon valley white twats' (so presumably the standard Trump supporter)


& advocated this book (wikipedia description):

"
Might Is Right, or The Survival of the Fittest, is a book by pseudonymous author Ragnar Redbeard. First published in 1890, it heavily advocates egoist anarchism, amorality, consequentialism and psychological hedonism. In Might Is Right, Redbeard rejects conventional ideas of human and natural rights and argues that only strength or physical might can establish moral right (à la Callicles or Thrasymachus). The book also attacks Christianity and Democracy. Friedrich Nietzsche's theories of master–slave morality and herd mentality serve as a clear inspiration for Redbeard's book written contemporaneously.[1]

Individualist anarchist historian James J. Martin called it "surely one of the most incendiary works ever to be published anywhere."[2] This refers to the controversial content such as the viewpoint that weakness should be regarded with hatred and the strong and forceful presence of Social Darwinism in the text. There are also controversial parts of the book that deal with race and male–female relations, claiming that the woman and the family as a whole is the property of the man and proclaiming the innate superiority of the Anglo-Saxon race. [3] The book also contains many strong anti-Semitic statements.
"
Paramount
Member
Mon Jul 29 13:39:29
lol

Definitely Sam.
Rugian
Member
Mon Jul 29 14:01:39
Does Sam strike you as a mixed European/Iranian mongrel?

JonTron, maybe.
Paramount
Member
Mon Jul 29 14:06:09
No but the title of the book points at Sam.

”Might Is Right, or The Survival of the Fittest”
hood
Member
Mon Jul 29 14:14:23
Sam would have planted a bomb and "nuked" the festival with an accompanying rationalization that simply by attending a fucking garlic festival you deserved to die, you self selected.
CrownRoyal
Member
Mon Jul 29 14:25:54
"Legan, Who Identifies as Being of Italian & Iranian Descent"

Donald needs to nut up and bomb tehran, what other justification do you need??
Seb
Member
Mon Jul 29 14:26:26
Rugian:

Could be. If this guy can have the exact politics of Sam, then why can't Sam be a "mixed European/Iranian Mongrel"
Sam Adams
Member
Mon Jul 29 15:14:02
Its funny that the same slaughter occurs in every big city ghetto every single weekend day... but the sjws dont bring that up much...
Seb
Member
Mon Jul 29 16:58:34
Says the man that literally posts news reports of those events relentlessly.
patom
Member
Mon Jul 29 17:48:35
Crown Royal "how come nobody returned fire? Where were all the good guys with guns? Train and arm garlic festival marshals. Federal money too, you cant trust Cali state anti 2nd amendment cucks to do it"

The police were there in one (1) minute. You can bet you ass that you would be a target if you had a gun in your hand and weren't a uniformed cop.
Crownroyal
Member
Mon Jul 29 18:35:24
1 min, and the vile tard managed to shoot like a dozen people. Obviously a good guy with a gun was needed sooner.
Rugian
Member
Mon Jul 29 19:03:39
When seconds matter, the police are just minutes away.
Rugian
Member
Mon Jul 29 19:07:49
Seb,

Can you actually picture Sam as a brown person? Because after all this time here, I literally cant.
Dukhat
Member
Mon Jul 29 21:22:42
But, he could've killed just as many people with a fire or a knife. Just have the people line up and not move or run away and he could've even killed more!
obaminated
Member
Mon Jul 29 22:13:44
remember when cuckhat compared a real life shooting event to counterstrike? why the fuck does this dude show his face in these threads? fucking avoid these dude. you are a fucking embarrassment.
Paramount
Member
Tue Jul 30 00:15:10
Isn’t a bit suspicious that the police, an entire swat team and more, was there within a minute? It is like they knew some angry person was going to shoot up the food festival.
kargen
Member
Tue Jul 30 02:00:20
"But, he could've killed just as many people with a fire or a knife."
Nah a fire is good for enclosed spaces. A couple of bike chains on exit doors and a well placed can of gas and you are set.
With an outdoor festival you want to go rent a U-haul truck and just plow through the crowd. Even better if you can lift one of the vendor vans scattered about as everyone expects to see them.

Knife is for running amok on a subway car.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Tue Jul 30 03:31:08
>>Can you actually picture Sam as a brown person? Because after all this time here, I literally cant.<<

Exactly which part his persona provides this obstacle?

And how are Italians/Iranians brown?

And what is brown?

Maryam Mirzakhani, brown?
http://www...nly-woman-to-win-fields-medal/

I look at Pictures of Trump and Rouhani, and while I have no idea what color Trump is, Rouhani is WHITE-er, still not white like my dad. I have a hard time imagining police in the US describing these people as anything other than caucasian.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Tue Jul 30 03:38:56
"On 13 August 2014, Mirzakhani was honored with the Fields Medal, the most prestigious award in mathematics.[12][13] Thus, she became both the first, and to date, the only woman and the first Iranian to be honored with the award"

I think this deserves it's own spot now that I have dragged a dead person into this because of her skin color. RIP.
obaminated
Member
Tue Jul 30 11:17:14
I like how I know she was a lesbian based solely on her hair cut.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Tue Jul 30 12:23:33
She wasn’t.
Cherub Cow
Member
Tue Jul 30 12:29:17
“Its funny that the same slaughter occurs in every big city ghetto every single weekend day...”

Pretty much — though here it’s even easier to say because this kid had some weak numbers. 3 dead and a few wounded? Those are bar fight or block party shooting numbers; those are rookie numbers.

And he’s a 19-year-old complaining about being angry so he goes on a shoot? Such a poser. That’s only innovative for 1998. With such low numbers, an uninspired attempt, and abysmally poor planning, all this thread is about is a mediocre person being mediocre. Can you imagine if he’d been captured and had to sit in jail for life on just 3 kills? Even Breivik is bored of his own numbers just a few years out, so this teen would probably have hanged himself in prison when he realized how eternally lame and irrelevant he’d been. It’s a good thing that the police saved him from that ;)
Forwyn
Member
Tue Jul 30 13:11:35
"But, he could've killed just as many people with a fire or a knife."

Uhh yeah dude, sarcasm aside, any guy who can't get 3 kills with a knife needs to preemptively knife himself

Oakland warehouse fire got a score of 36, and that was just negligence
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Aug 02 18:23:43
"
The Gilroy Garlic Festival gunman killed himself, the county medical examiner concluded Friday, contradicting an earlier police account that three officers had shot him dead within a minute.
"
http://www...er-killed-himself-coroner-says

how soon til we learn the cops shot most of the victims
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Aug 03 12:18:05
"
Nah a fire is good for enclosed spaces. A couple of bike chains on exit doors and a well placed can of gas and you are set.
With an outdoor festival you want to go rent a U-haul truck and just plow through the crowd. Even better if you can lift one of the vendor vans scattered about as everyone expects to see them.
"

maybe you should teach a class, as so few go with your ideas

---------------

EL PASO, Texas (KTSM) — El Paso Police and multiple other law enforcement agencies are responding to a shooting at the Walmart an active shooter situation.

Details are limited at this time. KTSM has a crew in route to the scene.

http://www...walmart-near-cielo-vista-mall/
(that's all that's there at moment)
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