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patom
Member
Thu Aug 08 11:16:46
http://www...n-shootings-old-152850978.html
Forwyn
Member
Thu Aug 08 11:53:52
"House of Representatives"
"President Trump"
"Congress"

After Breivik attacks, Norway passed more stringent anti-terror laws, they didn't beg the EU to do the job.
Forwyn
Member
Thu Aug 08 11:57:32
That is to say, each body passed their own unique and harmonious legislation, with the EU honing in on bomb-making materials. But people didn't just expect the continent-wide body to unilaterally solve the issue.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Aug 08 12:11:32
there seems to be some movement on background checks & red flag laws


however, the NRA made a long series of tweets starting w/ "As always, the NRA will work in good faith to pursue real solutions to the violence we witnessed this past weekend." haha

where they seem to be concerned about more background checks & red flag laws... so we'll see
Rugian
Member
Thu Aug 08 12:49:31
"Israel supports increased regulation on gun ownership. He voted against several bills and amendments which would decrease federal regulation of safety precautions of guns and decrease federal regulations on the sale of firearms. He also cosponsored the 2009 "No Fly, No Buy" Act,[16] stating "Gun safety measures like the 'No Fly, No Buy' Act should be a no-brainer for every member of Congress. It's common sense legislation."[17] He has received 0% ratings from the pro-gun rights NRA and the Gun Owners of America, as well as 100% ratings from the pro-gun control Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence and the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence."

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Israel

Gun hater exploits a tragedy to hate on guns. Nothing new.

And red flag laws are a dangerously overreaching tool that are ripe for abuse. Fuck them.
Forwyn
Member
Thu Aug 08 13:07:31
"No fly, no buy"
"Red flag"

Great examples of seizures without due process.
patom
Member
Thu Aug 08 15:40:26
I'd never heard of No fly No buy before I read the article. I'm just curious if any of the mass murderers so far has been on any no fly list.

As for the general gist of the article. He's right. Nothing will be done.
patom
Member
Thu Aug 08 15:40:26
I'd never heard of No fly No buy before I read the article. I'm just curious if any of the mass murderers so far has been on any no fly list.

As for the general gist of the article. He's right. Nothing will be done.
patom
Member
Thu Aug 08 15:40:26
I'd never heard of No fly No buy before I read the article. I'm just curious if any of the mass murderers so far has been on any no fly list.

As for the general gist of the article. He's right. Nothing will be done.
patom
Member
Thu Aug 08 15:40:26
I'd never heard of No fly No buy before I read the article. I'm just curious if any of the mass murderers so far has been on any no fly list.

As for the general gist of the article. He's right. Nothing will be done.
patom
Member
Thu Aug 08 15:40:26
I'd never heard of No fly No buy before I read the article. I'm just curious if any of the mass murderers so far has been on any no fly list.

As for the general gist of the article. He's right. Nothing will be done.
Rugian
Member
Thu Aug 08 15:42:36
WE HEARD YOU!
kargen
Member
Thu Aug 08 15:55:39
Judge Napolitano says none of the red flag laws proposed so far could pass court challenges because they are unconstitutional. He didn't base this on the 2nd amendment. Our entire judicial system is basically based on you can't take something away from someone or punish someone for what they might do.
Forwyn
Member
Thu Aug 08 16:06:12
Cops show up at 5am, tell old dude they're gonna take his shit and he can show up in court later to try to get it back, he grabs his gun, they shoot him and claim self defense

Libcucks and RINOs say they want this everywhere
patom
Member
Fri Aug 09 05:14:08
Rugian, thought something was wrong with my unit here. I hit Submit and nothing happened. Being an old fart I hit it a few more times and was reaching for a hammer when it finally submitted it a bunch of times.

kargen and Forwyn, nothing is going to happen.
kargen
Member
Fri Aug 09 05:19:24
Probably not. Mostly because members of congress want to play politics in hopes of keeping their seats. If they really wanted to try and solve the problem they would concentrate on the why instead of the how.
Why is harder to explain and not easily polarized for re-election so they concentrate on the how.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Aug 09 12:57:10
garbage pile Trump says he spoke to corrupt turtle McConnell & claims that McConnell was "totally on board" w/ new background checks legislation

a McConnell spokesperson countered that McConnell did not endorse anything

who to believe... who to believe...
(it is NEVER Trump)
hood
Member
Fri Aug 09 13:06:49
The article author would suggest that both are true in this case. McConnell, behind closed doors, would be totally on board. But he also never endorsed such a position and never will.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Aug 09 13:11:41
if Mitch isn't supporting it then Trump is lying (& Trump is always lying, so Mitch isn't supporting it)
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