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Rugian
Member
Sat Aug 10 08:25:53
http://www...1081?__twitter_impression=true

Normally I'd chalk this up to #ClintonBodyCount, but in all honesty it was the Princ Albert allegations that probably did him in. Dont ever fuck with the royal family, yo.

Rip/bih
Rugian
Member
Sat Aug 10 08:26:50
Bah, still waking up. Prince Andrew
Allahuakbar
Member
Sat Aug 10 08:38:46
The Jew is dead.
swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Sat Aug 10 10:20:46

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So Epstein failed to commit suicide the first time, is then placed specifically on suicide watch, THEN successfully commits suicide.

Right. Got it.



6:24 AM - 10 Aug 2019
yankeessuck123
Member
Sat Aug 10 10:22:30
Does anybody anywhere believe the official story here?
swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Sat Aug 10 10:42:44

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A guy who had information that would have destroyed rich and powerful men’s lives ends up dead in his jail cell. How predictably...Russian.



6:41 AM - 10 Aug 2019
Sam Adams
Member
Sat Aug 10 10:58:08
How predictably... clinton
Hrothgar
Member
Sat Aug 10 11:00:17
Pretty damn obvious hit job.
Hrothgar
Member
Sat Aug 10 11:04:36
I take that back, hanging would be a lot tougher to fake without leaving a security camera trail. Still...
Paramount
Member
Sat Aug 10 11:13:34
I’m not sure how I should respond to this. I have three alternatives. Might as well say all of it...

Lol, he died a pedo in jail.

If there is no video or photo then I doubt he is dead. Israel had him extracted to Israel where he can live free and in peace.

It doesn’t make sense that someone can comitt suicide while on suicide watch. So this was an organized and planned hit job. I think Trump ordered his assassination because he is afraid that the pedo would tell all about Trump and those pre-teen girls.
hood
Member
Sat Aug 10 11:16:01
Odd that nobody is blaming the mobster in chief, who was placed at several of epstein's "parties".
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Aug 10 11:32:27
corrupt AG Barr probably greased himself up & slithered through the ventilation system

------------

i've been re-watching Battlestar Galactica (newer version) & many parallels to today...


Kamala extract <-> Kamala Harris (not the spelling they use for the extract, but you never see the spelling)

the overzealous attempts at finding cylons in the fleet was declared a 'witch hunt' (although by a respectable guy in this case)

original series Apollo guy is running for office talking about the forgotten man... & is also a criminal

and the one i just watched had an attempted political assassin mysteriously murdered in his prison cell... made to look like suicide
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Sat Aug 10 12:41:11
Uhm yea so apparently the camera malfunctioned last night when Epstein was taken care of, I mean committed suicide.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Aug 10 12:42:22
AG Barr: “I was appalled to learn that Jeffrey Epstein was found dead early this morning from an apparent suicide while in federal custody. Mr. Epstein’s death raises serious questions that must be answered."
(said while laughing... possibly)
Renzo Marquez
Member
Sat Aug 10 16:59:52
tumbleweed
the wanderer Sat Aug 10 11:32:27
"i've been re-watching Battlestar Galactica (newer version) & many parallels to today..."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FEUiJbjkD0
Hrothgar
Member
Sat Aug 10 17:08:53
"Uhm yea so apparently the camera malfunctioned last night when Epstein was taken care of, I mean committed suicide."

WTF? Link?
obaminated
Member
Sat Aug 10 18:10:12
Yeah you gotta link that nim
Rugian
Member
Sat Aug 10 18:15:39
I'm pretty sure he was being facetious...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Aug 10 18:30:25
a guy who once had the job of doing suicide watches was on CNN... said he's never heard of anyone being on suicide watch more than a week (so not unusual it was pulled for Epstein), and said not likely there was any camera in the cell


although there should be cameras outside to potentially spot Hillary sneaking in
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Aug 10 18:33:31
i'm not sure why i still get surprised, but Trump (the President) retweeted this:

"
Died of SUICIDE on 24/7 SUICIDE WATCH ? Yeah right! How does that happen

#JefferyEpstein had information on Bill Clinton & now he’s dead

I see #TrumpBodyCount trending but we know who did this!

RT if you’re not Surprised

#EpsteinSuicide #ClintonBodyCount #ClintonCrimeFamily
"

http://twitter.com/w_terrence/status/1160256105399967744
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Aug 10 18:45:57
[from video in tweet]

"...How do everybody die from suicide that got information on you? You know what? To be honest with you, I don't wanna know nothing about the Clintons. Don't tell me nothing. I'm not trying to end up dead. I don't even want to know if Hillary was diggin' in her nose, I don't want to know if Bill Clinton eats boogers. Don't tell me nothing, I don't want to end up dead. ..."

~this message approved by Donald Trump (the President of the United States)
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Sat Aug 10 19:18:24
"WTF? Link?"

Unverified rumor so far.

http://twitter.com/MichaelCoudrey/status/1160199691373621250

"He was removed from suicide watch on July 29 and returned to the special housing unit, a segregated area of the prison with extra security, this person said."

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/10/nyregion/jeffrey-epstein-suicide.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

You decide which is more the stuff of CT.
Rugian
Member
Sat Aug 10 19:34:47
Just to push back against some of the fake news in this thread:

"Opposition research firm Fusion GPS tried and failed to find evidence of a close relationship between then-candidate Donald Trump and billionaire Jeffrey Epstein, whose 'Lolita Express" private jet ferried powerful clients to his private island, "Little St. James."

Epstein (who reportedly has an egg shaped penis) pleaded guilty to one count of soliciting prostitution from a 14 year old girl in 2008 for which he served 13 months in jail - filed in 2006; including wiring his mansion with hidden cameras, secretly recording orgies involving high profile friends with underage girls for blackmail, and receiving sexual massages from high school girls up to three times a day according to his former house manager of 11 years.

And as the NY Post detailed last year, Epstein and the Clintons are close.

Epstein has spent the bulk of his adult life cultivating relationships with the worlds most powerful men. Flight logs show that from 2001 to 2003, Bill Clinton flew on Epsteins private plane, dubbed The Lolita Express by the press, 26 times. After Epsteins arrest in July 2006, federal tax records show Epstein donated $25,000 to the Clinton Foundation that year.

While trying to tie Trump to Epstein in an attempt to push the narrative to at least two reporters, Glenn Simpson of Fusion GPS - the firm behind the unsubstantiated "Trump-Russia" dossier, found that the Trump-Epstein link appears purely social, according to the Washington Times, which writes "Journalist sources told The Washington Times that Fusion founder Glenn Simpson pushed the idea of a close relationship between Mr. Trump and Jeffrey Epstein," adding "Ken Silverstein, the reporter who ultimately wrote an Epstein-Trump report, confirmed to The Times that Fusion had sourced the story."

Mr. Silverstein, who wrote the Vice.Com story, was asked by The Washington Times if Fusion pushed the Epstein-Trump story.

"Since you asked, yes, they helped me with that," Mr. Silverstein said. "But as you can see, I could not make a strong case for Trump being super close to Epstein, so they could hardly have been thrilled with that story. [In my humble opinion], that was the best story written about Trumps ties to Epstein, but I failed to nail him. Trumps ties were mild compared to Bill Clintons."

In January 2016, Vice.com ran Silverstein's story on Trump's ties to Epstein, which framed them as more social - including dinner parties, two plane trips, and Epstein hanging out at Trump's Mar-a-lago resort in Palm Beach, Florida. As Radar reported last April, "According to an investigation by Radar, Trump was among dozens of renowned New Yorkers who knew Epstein socially but ostracized him after Palm Beach police uncovered the financiers sleazy double life," adding that Trump "once barred child molester Jeffrey Epstein from his famed Mar-a-lago club after the presidential candidate caught him hitting on a young girl." "

http://www...led-link-trump-jeffrey-epstein
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Aug 10 21:06:48
want me to help link Trump to Epstein?

“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”
~Trump

as to it only being a social relationship... as opposed to what? Dinners and parties is what all of Trumps relationships would be, other than him sticking his dick in women who didn't necessarily want it
Forwyn
Member
Sat Aug 10 21:08:05
Seeing Epstein at parties is a lot different than joining him on a private trip to Pedo Island, don't be retarded
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Aug 10 21:11:22
Trump probably would've flown his own plane

Epstein recruited at least one girl at Mar-a-Lago

Trump held a private party of just him and Epstein plus models (with the models expecting something else)

The two are linked
obaminated
Member
Sat Aug 10 21:24:46
It's pretty naive to genuinely think this guy, who had dirt on tons of rich and powerful people, winds up committing suicide while in a federal jail. He was D'Angelo-ed
smart dude
Member
Sat Aug 10 21:33:51
I wonder what the Kardashians of the UK (ie the royal family) will do to try to bury the Prince Andrew angle of this story.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Aug 10 21:44:51
here are the two dirtbags chatting while ogling dancing women
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLcfpU2cubo

I'm confident that displays a strong enough friendship for the disgusting pig in a suit to fuck a girl procured by the disgusting pig not in a suit. It's not like the pig has moral fiber.

Maybe it didn't happen, but suggesting there's no real connection is ridiculous.
obaminated
Member
Sat Aug 10 21:57:32
Trump talks to epstein while pointing at party girls. Somehow that is a bad thing. ha how desperate tw has become.
obaminated
Member
Sat Aug 10 21:59:24
I wonder if you are genuinely this unhinged or if you have begun trolling to keep this forum active. If so, good for you for being the new HR.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Aug 10 22:42:21
“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years."


...but for the record, i don't think Trump nor the Clintons killed him
Paramount
Member
Sun Aug 11 02:21:47
Both of them had a motive. Bill likes young girls too. Hillary also has a motive. Maybe she silenced him to protect her husband.

The media is not talking about this^ either. They are just repeating what the responsible at the prison is saying. Maybe because the media wants to cover it up too! Truly an enemy of the people. So now people has to go to Twitter and tune in @realDonaldTrump to find the truth.
patom
Member
Sun Aug 11 10:03:49
I think I'm the only one here that has ever worked in a jail. Although the jail I worked at has never had a successful suicide the best we did was anyone that serious would be put in the 'Green Dress' and put in an observation cell in Intake that always had someone there to monitor. Other than that they would be on 15 min. check if left in a cell block.
The 'Green Dress' was made from heavy duty furniture moving blanket material and was secured with velcro strips. the inmate was naked inside the dress and only had a bare mattress to sleep on.

We don't know how Epstein was being monitored.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Aug 11 11:23:49
NY Times is reporting he was supposed to be under 30 minute checks (but procedure wasn't being followed)

(and many have reported his suicide watch had ended)

this is article, i didn't fight the paywall, someone else tweeted the part i mentioned:
http://www...attan-correctional-center.html
Average Ameriacn
Member
Sun Aug 11 11:30:21
DemocRat!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein#democraticRat

From 1989 until 2003, Epstein donated more than $139,000 to Democratic federal candidates and committees a

Epstein contributed $50,000 to Democrat Bill Richardson's successful campaign for New Mexico Governor in 2002 and again for his successful run for reelection in 2006. Also that year, he contributed $15,000 to Democrat Gary King's successful campaign for New Mexico Attorney General. He later contributed $35,000 to King's 2014 unsuccessful campaign for Governor. Other contributions in New Mexico included Epstein $10,000 toward Jim Bacca's campaign to become head of the land commission and $2,000 toward Santa Fe County Sheriff Jim Solano's bid for reelection.
patom
Member
Sun Aug 11 11:42:53
$139K is chump change.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Aug 11 11:51:05
he has a ranch in New Mexico


Trump's donation history
http://bal..._Trump%27s_political_donations

of course his excuse is 'as a businessman you have to bribe everybody'... oh, ok
Sam Adams
Member
Sun Aug 11 11:58:01
Suicide watch is when you watch someone commit suicide, right?

-hillary
TJ
Member
Sun Aug 11 12:15:43
"Virginia Giuffre, who says that Epstein and Maxwell trafficked her to powerful people for erotic massages and sex, claimed in depositions in 2016 that Maxwell directed her to have sex with former New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, Britain’s Prince Andrew (whom she has accused before), wealthy financier Glenn Dubin, former senator George Mitchell, now-deceased MIT scientist Marvin Minsky, and modeling agent Jean-Luc Brunel, as well as “another prince,” a "foreign president," a well-known prime minsiter" and the owner of a “large hotel chain” in France."

#metoo..., "I believe, I believed once upon a time."

Boomerang! She denied Trump was one of them.

Epstein didn't only leverage his money, but also his life. Nothing excites North-East-West-South(NEWS) more than a good conspiracy.
Crownroyal
Member
Sun Aug 11 12:20:50
Clintons, who couldn't cover up a blow job from an intern, are toying with Donald's law enforcement nincompoops. This is one seriously incompetent and corrupt department, trump should start firing people apprentice style.
obaminated
Member
Sun Aug 11 13:11:22
Clinton's covered up a lot besides a Bj. He fucked a lot of women they intimidated to stay quiet.
hood
Member
Sun Aug 11 13:24:20
Why is everyone so focused on Giuffre like she's the only possible girl to have been trafficked by Epstein?
Crownroyal
Member
Sun Aug 11 13:29:45
"Clinton's covered up a lot besides a Bj. He fucked a lot of women they intimidated to stay quiet."

Your sis?
Paramount
Member
Sun Aug 11 13:34:31
It is possible that Mr Trump wanted someone younger than Guiffre, someone who hasn’t laid with Prince Andrew and a ”well known prime minister”.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Aug 11 13:37:20
there were dozens of girls

Trump would probably want one who looked like Ivanka
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Sun Aug 11 16:15:13
http://edi...frey-epstein-sunday/index.html

Still not verified, but CNN says his cell was not monitored that night.

Should not have been possible, now we will never know how deep the rabbit hole went.
Paramount
Member
Mon Aug 12 00:48:10
Of course his cell was not monitored. Had it been he would still be alive in his cell today.

Trump’s friend Barr stopped the monitoring, and then someone could sneak in and strangle him. Or, since we haven’t seen a picture of his dead body at the morgue – Trump’s friend Netanyahu had some agents to pick him up and fly him to Israel which was created as a safe haven for Jews.
patom
Member
Mon Aug 12 17:49:25
It doesn't take 30 min. to hang yourself. Even if he was checked on every 30 min. he still had plenty of time to off himself.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Aug 12 18:11:18
from a NY Times piece
"
only one of the two people guarding the Special Housing Unit — known as 9 South — normally worked as a correctional officer, according to three prison officials with knowledge of the case. The officials did not say what sort of job the other employee usually worked.
"

hitman perhaps
Forwyn
Member
Mon Aug 12 18:13:10
They let cops take gravy side jobs all over the country, so NYPD is likely
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Aug 12 18:19:36
this was the next paragraph actually, i stopped reading prematurely to post my joke :p

"
A New York Times investigation published last year detailed this practice, under which federal prisons are so strapped for correctional officers that they regularly compel teachers, nurses, secretaries and other support staff members to step in. The practice has grown at some prisons as the Trump administration has curtailed the hiring of correctional officers.
"

full article
http://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/12/nyregion/epstein-barr.html
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Aug 12 18:24:15
the Trump admin cutting corners across the board w/ regards to staff, but still managing to skyrocket the deficit

hooray for fiscal conservatism
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Aug 13 01:19:38
an article about the staffing issues (w/ no paywall)
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/12/politics/jeffrey-epstein-substitute-guard-overtime/index.html

"
Gregg claimed it's not uncommon at the MCC for employees to work 17-and 18-hour-days and are not allowed to refuse the mandatory overtimes.
"

Make America China #MAC
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Aug 13 01:20:48
(link fixed)
http://www...tute-guard-overtime/index.html
patom
Member
Tue Aug 13 04:50:27
Corrections Officer is one of the shittiest jobs you can have. Staff shortages are the 'norm'. The national average career is 5 years.

If you are ever unemployed and have a clean record, go apply to any jail or prison. They will hire you.
Forwyn
Member
Tue Aug 13 12:53:25
In my experience, the only guys gunning for CO positions were those wanting it on the resume to get in the next pig academy class
patom
Member
Tue Aug 13 14:50:44
Forwyn, in several counties in Maine and I'm sure others across the country, their first experience in law enforcement is working as a CO in a county jail.
In the 8 years I worked in the jail there were at least 10 that went into the sheriffs dept. They for the most part were pretty good at their job and a lot more familiar with our frequent flyers.

The only reason I went there and stuck it out was for the health insurance that I needed for my wife. They had an excellent Health Care plan. As soon as she got on Medicare I was out the door. We had some really good people working at the jail and we had some duds, just like any other place you work at. Our policy was hiring people as part timers and used their time to evaluate how they would work out as full time CO's. For the most part we were able to weed out quite a few duds. But that was not perfect.
obaminated
Member
Wed Aug 14 02:26:03
The guards say they fell asleep when they were supposed to be watching him. No one will get in trouble.
Paramount
Member
Wed Aug 14 05:21:06
How convenient that the guards fell asleep just as Clinton’s hired hitman arrived.
Paramount
Member
Thu Aug 15 12:46:09
CNN)An autopsy performed on Jeffrey Epstein showed he "sustained multiple breaks in his neck bones," the Washington Post reported Wednesday.

People familiar with the autopsy report told the newspaper the bones broken in Epstein's neck included the hyoid bone, which is near the Adam's apple.

This sort of break can happen when a person hangs themselves or dies by strangulation, forensics experts told the Post.

http://edi...autopsy-broken-neck/index.html

He was strangled.
Paramount
Member
Thu Aug 15 12:58:01
”The guards say they fell asleep”

How likely is it that TWO guards falls asleep at the same time when they are supposed to be working? It’s BS.
Paramount
Member
Thu Aug 15 12:59:42
I have never fallen asleep at any of my work/jobs. How is this even possible?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Aug 15 13:26:22
well if the 17-18 hour days happen it's believable they were sleeping

i doubt they 'fell' asleep, more likely it was their regular sleep time (not likely it only happened by accident coincidentally on same day he died)

...or it was just some regular dicking around time & they claim they fell asleep as it was least objectionable story they could think of
McKobb
Member
Thu Aug 15 13:57:20
Russia/Trump did it due to the possible exposure of the real truth about 9/11!
Forwyn
Member
Thu Aug 15 15:29:53
Epstein's bones broke themselves while his guards cuddled on their nap nap time. lulz
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