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Rugian
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Fri Aug 30 10:54:14
Why is China so unabashedly evil?

This just goes to show how Hong Kongers are completely justified in their protests. Fuck. China.

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Exclusive: Amid crisis, China rejected Hong Kong plan to appease protesters - sources
James Pomfret, Greg Torode


HONG KONG (Reuters) - Earlier this summer, Carrie Lam, the chief executive of Hong Kong, submitted a report to Beijing that assessed protesters’ five key demands and found that withdrawing a contentious extradition bill could help defuse the mounting political crisis in the territory.

The Chinese central government rejected Lam’s proposal to withdraw the extradition bill and ordered her not to yield to any of the protesters’ other demands at that time, three individuals with direct knowledge of the matter told Reuters.

China’s role in directing how Hong Kong handles the protests has been widely assumed, supported by stern statements in state media about the country’s sovereignty and protesters’ “radical” goals.

Beijing’s rebuff of Lam’s proposal for how to resolve the crisis, detailed for the first time by Reuters, represents concrete evidence of the extent to which China is controlling the Hong Kong government’s response to the unrest.

The Chinese central government has condemned the protests and accused foreign powers of fuelling unrest. The Foreign Ministry has repeatedly warned other nations against interfering in Hong Kong, reiterating that the situation there is an “internal affair.”

Lam’s report on the tumult was made before an Aug. 7 meeting in Shenzhen about the Hong Kong crisis, led by senior Chinese officials. The report examined the feasibility of the protesters’ five demands, and analyzed how conceding to some of them might quieten things down, the individuals with direct knowledge said.

In addition to the withdrawal of the extradition bill, the other demands analyzed in the report were: an independent inquiry into the protests; fully democratic elections; dropping of the term “riot” in describing protests; and dropping charges against those arrested so far.

The withdrawal of the bill and an independent inquiry were seen to be the most feasible politically, according to a senior government official in the Hong Kong administration, who spoke on condition of anonymity. He said the move was envisioned as helping pacify some of the more moderate protesters who have been angered by Lam’s silence.

The extradition bill is one of the key issues that has helped drive the protests, which have drawn millions of people into the streets of Hong Kong. Lam has said the bill is “dead,” but has refused to say explicitly that it has been “withdrawn.”

Beijing told Lam not to withdraw the bill, or to launch an inquiry into the tumult, including allegations of excessive police force, according to the senior government official.

The second individual with direct knowledge of the matter, who has close ties with senior officials in Hong Kong and also declined to be identified, confirmed the Hong Kong government had submitted the report.

“They said no” to all five demands, said the source. “The situation is far more complicated than most people realize.”

The third source, a senior Chinese official, said that the Hong Kong government had submitted the report to the Central Co-ordination Group for Hong Kong and Macau Affairs, a high-level group led by Politburo Standing Committee member Han Zheng, and that President Xi Jinping was aware of it.

The official confirmed that Beijing had rejected giving in to any of the protesters’ demands and wanted Lam’s administration to take more initiative.

In a statement responding to Reuters, Lam’s office said her government had made efforts to address protesters’ concerns, but did not comment directly on whether it had made such a proposal to Beijing, or received instructions.

Written questions to China’s Foreign Ministry were referred to the Hong Kong and Macau Affairs Office (HKMAO), a high-level bureau under China’s State Council. HKMAO did not respond to a faxed request for comment.

Reuters has not seen the report. The news agency also was unable to establish the precise timing of the rejection.

The two Hong Kong sources said the report was submitted between June 16 - the day after Lam announced the suspension of the extradition bill - and Aug. 7, when the HKMAO and China’s representative Liaison Office in Hong Kong held a forum in nearby Shenzhen attended by nearly 500 pro-establishment figures and businesspeople from Hong Kong.

The question of Beijing’s influence strikes at the heart of Hong Kong’s “one country, two systems” governance, which promised the city a high degree of autonomy and wide-ranging freedoms that don’t exist in mainland China.

More than two months of protests have embroiled Hong Kong in its most severe crisis since the former British colony returned to Chinese rule in 1997.

What began as a movement to oppose the extradition bill, which would have allowed people to be sent to China for trial in Communist Party controlled courts, has morphed into a broader campaign for greater rights and democracy in a direct challenge to Beijing.

‘HER HANDS ARE TIED’

Ip Kwok-him, a senior pro-Beijing politician who sits on Hong Kong’s elite Executive Council, which advises senior officials, including Lam, told Reuters that “if the central government won’t allow something, you can’t do it.” Ip did not know about the proposal to withdraw the bill.

A senior businessman who attended the Shenzhen meeting and has met with Lam recently said “her hands are tied” and Beijing wouldn’t let her withdraw the bill. The businessman spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter.

At the Shenzhen meeting, Zhang Xiaoming, the head of the HKMAO, said in televised public remarks that if the turmoil persisted, “the central government must intervene.”

Since then, there have been signs of Beijing taking a harder line.

For instance, officials have likened some protests to “terrorism,” Chinese paramilitary police have conducted drills near the border, several Hong Kong companies have been pressured to suspend staff supporting the protests, and security personnel have searched the digital devices of some travelers entering China.

On Friday, Joshua Wong, a prominent democracy activist, was arrested, according to his political party, Demosisto.

http://www...otesters-sources-idUSKCN1VK0H6
Rugian
Member
Fri Aug 30 10:57:13
Opposition Lawmakers Held in Evening Roundup: Hong Kong Update

Bloomberg News
August 30, 2019, 6:53 AM EDT Updated on August 30, 2019, 11:32 AM EDT

Tensions spiked in Hong Kong ahead of what could be a 13th straight weekend of protests, as police arrested several top opposition figures including Joshua Wong after banning a mass march scheduled for Saturday.

http://www...-after-arrest-hong-kong-update

Fuck. China.
Rugian
Member
Fri Aug 30 10:58:43
Cathay Warns Staff to Stay Away From Hong Kong General Strike

By Kyunghee Park
August 29, 2019, 9:19 PM EDT

Cathay Pacific Airways Ltd. warned employees not to take part in a Hong Kong general strike planned for next week, underscoring companies’ efforts to limit the damage from the city’s months-long protests and avoid falling afoul of Beijing.

Those participating in the strike called for Monday and Tuesday risk getting fired, Tom Owen, director of people at Cathay, told staff in an internal memo confirmed by the airline. The carrier expects employees to report to work and will monitor attendance closely, according to the memo. It reiterated that it has zero tolerance for any support or participation in illegal protests.

“Cathay Pacific Group does not approve of this strike,” Owen said in the memo. “Any participation during working hours would be prohibited and would constitute a breach of your employment with the Cathay Pacific Group. Any breach of policy or regulatory requirements will be investigated and may lead to termination of employment.”

Cathay has become a symbol of the danger companies face in Hong Kong as they seek to steer clear of angering Beijing -- Chinese authorities imposed a swathe of demands on the airline for its workers’ participation in the demonstrations. At least seven employees have left the carrier in the turmoil and Chief Executive Officer Rupert Hogg resigned abruptly to take responsibility for the airline’s troubles.

http://www...-after-arrest-hong-kong-update

Fuck. China.
Rugian
Member
Fri Aug 30 11:03:16
Chinese military's rotation of new troops to Hong Kong garrison raises alarm

By James Griffiths and Barbara Starr, CNN

China claimed Thursday that the addition of fresh military troops to the Hong Kong garrison was simply a military rotation, sparking skepticism among US officials and widespread concern in Hong Kong, demonstrating how tense the city is ahead of a 13th consecutive weekend of anti-government protests.

Chinese Defense Ministry spokesman Ren Guoqiang said the China's People's Liberation Army troop "rotation" in Hong Kong was a "routine arrangement." China has stationed troops in Hong Kong since it was turned over to the Chinese in 1997 from Great Britain.

The spokesman said the timing of this year's rotation was "similar to previous rotations" and "was decided based on the order of the Central Military Commission and the defense needs of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region." He dodged a question about whether the number of troops and the amount of equipment have increased since the latest rotation.

The People's Liberation Army troop movements were carried out in the dead of the night and took place at the same time as a rotation of the garrison in neighboring Macao. They were announced by Chinese state media early Thursday morning.

http://www...-pla-china-intl-hnk/index.html

Fuck. China.
Rugian
Member
Fri Aug 30 11:09:23
And this part bears emphasis. In response to what have been overwhelmingly peaceful protests that have essentially boiled down to asking Beijing to "please respect the arrangement you agreed to when you took possession of us"...China has repeatedly threatened to undertake military action against the protesters, with everything from inflammatory rhetoric to thinly-veiled troop demonstrations to outright threats. Because in a shithole like China, any act of dissidence whatsoever is seen as justifying the most brutal and disproportionate acts possible.

Fuck. China.
Paramount
Member
Fri Aug 30 11:10:24
The demands:

”dropping of the term “riot” in describing protests; and dropping charges against those arrested so far. ”

It doesn’t sound like reasonable demands considering that there has been cases where protesters has lynched people, there has been vandalism, infrastructure has been destroyed, rocks and molotov’s thrown, etc.


”The question of Beijing’s influence strikes at the heart of Hong Kong’s “one country, two systems” governance, which promised the city a high degree of autonomy and wide-ranging freedoms that don’t exist in mainland China.”

What kind of freedoms do they want? Freedom to lynch people? Freedom to murder people in mainland China and not be extradicted?
obaminated
Member
Fri Aug 30 11:33:33
I'm curious how TW spins this into an anti trump thread.
Im better then you
2012 UP Football Champ
Fri Aug 30 11:48:32
It is pretty amazing that Trump has not spoken out in support of freedom.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Aug 30 12:07:19
challenge accepted

- Trump has demonstrated no knowledge of the situation showing how he's unfit for office
(see every comment he's ever made about it)
sample: "The Hong Kong thing is a very tough situation, very tough. We'll what see what happens. But I'm sure it'll work out. I hope it works out for everybody, including China, by the way."

- Trump has used China's characterizations (calling it riots)

- reportedly he told Xi he wouldn't criticize them over it, which seems accurate as he hasn't said a word of support for democracy or the protesters (unlike even Republican leaders)

- the closest he's come (after everyone else was showing support for protesters) was saying he hopes it's handled "humanely"... like how you hope the death penalty is done humanely


all Trump cares about is his trade deal, he has never cared about any American values or human rights issues

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Fuck. China. ... & Trump
Rugian
Member
Fri Aug 30 12:16:05
Paramount (henceforth to be known as "CCP Dicklicker") -

"there has been cases where protesters has lynched people,"

Lynching is an act of murder. How many people have been killed by the protestors, exactly?

As for acts of violence, there have indeed been a handful, mostly in response to like-kind acts by the police and pro-Beijing groups. Feel free to explain how those handful of bad acts are statistically significant enough to justify stomping down on and silencing a movement that has involved upwards of 2,000,000 people, representing well over 25% of the entire population. I'll wait.

"there has been vandalism, infrastructure has been destroyed,"

You mean the tearing down of surveillance lamp posts? Rofl. How evil are you to actually be opposed to that?

"there has been vandalism, infrastructure has been destroyed, rocks and molotov’s thrown, etc. "

Maybe the police shouldn't be acting as tools of Beijing and exercising violence against protestors then. What exactly is the alternative here when the cops beat up and arrest people, just lie down and take it? No.

"What kind of freedoms do they want?"

Explained in OP.

"Freedom to murder people in mainland China and not be extradicted?"

As I've said before, this is such a non-issue that Lam's government had to reference an incident that didnt even involve China at all in order to justify the Extradition Bill. And also like I've said before, Hong Kongers are fully justified in not wanting to be subject to extradition for judgement in Chinese courts, which are 110% not impartial or fair bodies.

If China wants to be treated like a civilized country where the rule of law exists, maybe it should start acting like one.
Rugian
Member
Fri Aug 30 12:16:49
Tw,

Get out.
Paramount
Member
Fri Aug 30 12:31:57
”Lynching is an act of murder. How many people have been killed by the protestors, exactly?”

It is just pure luck that none of the victims from the lynching attempts has died.



”Feel free to explain how those handful of bad acts are statistically significant enough to justify stomping down on and silencing a movement that has involved upwards of 2,000,000 people”

The authorities job job and duties is to uphold law and order. If protests goes overboard, then the police can stop further protests and even use violence/force to do so if people disobey the law.



”You mean the tearing down of surveillance lamp posts? Rofl. How evil are you to actually be opposed to that?”

Just because you don’t like something does not mean you have the right to destroy it.
Paramount
Member
Fri Aug 30 12:35:45
”I've said before, Hong Kongers are fully justified in not wanting to be subject to extradition for judgement in Chinese courts, which are 110% not impartial or fair bodies. ”


Would you be more okay if China followed the example of the US and used drone strikes to punish suspected criminals, murderes and terrorists in Hong Kong?
Williamthebastard
Member
Fri Aug 30 14:21:30
For Rugian the psychotic incel, its either lose his virginity or go on an all-american mass murder joy spree
The Children
Member
Fri Aug 30 14:25:42
rugian, are u stupid? u completely misunderstood what 1 country, 2 systems mean. HK is part of China.

Its literally ONNNNNEEEEE COUNTRY.

What China says, goes.
2 systems merely means HK has autonomy as to how they govern the city. nottin more.

anything that hits national interest, is governed by China. Period.

Just how stupid are u to think this is not the case. What u think california can rule foreign affairs without washingtons blessings.

fool.

The Children
Member
Fri Aug 30 14:32:15
u probably didnt realize that HK is a Chinese city, filled with Chinese peoples, governed and protected by China.

god damn boy. is salt lake city an american city.
oh and peacefull protests???

LOL brainwashed much. These peoples are extremely VIOLENT, extremely far right, fascists and their true goal is independence. why. becoz they were bought and paid for. by foreign powers.

sorry, u probably also think HK people actually support these peoples.

another brainwash by ur "factual independant" media no doubt.

NEWSFLASH. these rioters arent even 0.003% of HK population and the ringleaders are fleeing HK like xbot rats abandonnin a sinkin ship.

butbutbut 1/3rd of the population!!!

yea, no. only 400 retarded millenials participated in the banking run.

less than 6000 people in one of the demonstration at the park.

less than 30k people during the socalled "human chain".

And that socalled 1.7mill march was 6 football fields filled. Thats less than 80k people.

1.7mill my ass. u need 200 football fields for 1.7 mill people. people did the math. u idiots cant even LIE PROPERLY rofl.

get fuckin rekted.

they want war tomorrow. they will get crushed.
The Children
Member
Fri Aug 30 14:36:13
the gloves are off.

they wanted to kill police officers. untill cops drew a gun.

they threw a molotov cocktail from a highrise into police.

they destroyed a street filled with shops, opened them up, smashed the windows and tables.

they destroyed public lampposts becoz they claimed China was spying on them through the lampposts..

they opened it up and get this. The motherboads said ***CISCO SYSTEMS***

HAHAHA fuckin idiots. ur all gonna get rekted tomorrow.

the gloves are off. any motherfucker that shows up tomorrow will get destroyed. u will respect authority, millenial thug. traitors. ugly bananas.
The Children
Member
Fri Aug 30 14:38:50
the cia failed again. they wanted 2 create trouble for china.

instead all chinese around the world has united.

in taiwan, ugly banana andy chan was seen being bashed and humiliated by patriotic chinese peoples who recognized his ugly dog face. he probably thought he culd chill in taiwan and discuss his plans to serve the white men.

instead he got tea and coffee thrown against him and called to kneel, running dog, etc etc.

u ugly americans have failed. 30k race traitor rats have united 1.4 billion chinese and chinese mixed peoples around the world.

The Children
Member
Fri Aug 30 14:45:43
meanwhile in india

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9jd7SHFVMo&feature=youtu.be

go get rekted, white thugs. butbutbut demooocraccccyyyy???

if we give them the indian treatment, btw the brits do the same, if we give them the british/ indian treatment, ur azz aint gonna shit about it.

thats not a question.

Forwyn
Member
Fri Aug 30 14:54:17
"Williamthebastard
Member Fri Aug 30 14:21:30
For Rugian the psychotic incel, its either lose his virginity or go on an all-american mass murder joy spree"

Yeah, that really seems relevant in this thread. Cuck.
Paramount
Member
Fri Aug 30 15:12:28
Looks like there might be protests in Britain tomorrow. People in Britain wants their freedom and democracy back, so they have the right to destroy things they don’t like tomorrow.


”The public outrage at Boris Johnson shutting down democracy has been deafening. People are right to take to the streets - and I encourage everyone to join the demonstrations in London and across the country tomorrow.”

http://twi...tatus/1167462745610080256?s=21
The Children
Member
Fri Aug 30 15:16:09
damn straight, peoples throwing bricks soon.

but u see, it aint a riot. its da will of da people!

Rugian
Member
Fri Aug 30 16:01:22
And out come the pro-authoritarian trolls. I love it.

CCP Dicklicker:

"It is just pure luck that none of the victims from the lynching attempts has died."

That's like saying that it's pure luck that none of the victims of police brutality and pro-Beijing groups have died. It's a meaningless statement.

But as long as we're looking for isolated anecdotes to undermine a much larger movement, here's a bunch of people that have been driven to suicide out of depression over China's disregard for 1C2S:

http://en....adition_bill_protests#Suicides

And, again. Chinas response to the protests have been in the guise of threats of military retaliation. Which would be way more destructive than anything even the most disorderly of protestors could ever pull off.

"The authorities job job and duties is to uphold law and order. If protests goes overboard, then the police can stop further protests and even use violence/force to do so if people disobey the law."

The protests are about that government not having a legitimate mandate to govern, you fool. Since HKers have been denied the right of holding free and fair elections to determine their leaders, protesting is one of the only avenues available to them to express their feelings on the government. And apparently, even that option is now under threat.

"Just because you don’t like something does not mean you have the right to destroy it."

"People cannot fight against literal totalitarian because it might cause damage to state surveillance devices" is quite the message there. Wowza.

"Would you be more okay if China followed the example of the US and used drone strikes to punish suspected criminals, murderes and terrorists in Hong Kong?"

You mean the hypothetical murderers that dont actually exist?

And by the way, the US doesnt drone ordinary murderers on it's own territory. Stop reading whatever fake news you're currently on.

Rugian
Member
Fri Aug 30 16:03:14
WTB,

I dont even know what you were trying to say there, but I did gather from the sentiment that you're a fan of Chinese authoritarian and an opponent of free expression. Which isn't surprising given your own leanings towards fascist beliefs.

Equally unsurprising should be my decision to ignore you. Ciao.
The Children
Member
Fri Aug 30 16:03:51
ur right the us drones people in FOREIGN lands wayyyyy out of there jurisdiction and sovereignty.
they have no right to fly that shit up there.

thats even wayyyyy worse than flyin drones in ur own skies.

god damn u idiot, what a roast.
Forwyn
Member
Fri Aug 30 16:06:13
"Brexit is the same as being extradited to China for political dissent" Seb, probably

"the US doesnt drone ordinary murderers on it's own territory."

And we haven't had al-Awlaki Pt. II to my knowledge since Hussein packed his bags
Rugian
Member
Fri Aug 30 16:07:16
TC,

I see you're still basking in the glow of your victory in driving Camaban away from the last HK thread. Unfortunately for you, that's not going to happen here.

Still, for someone who's such a miserable fuck-up in so many other areas of your life, your uncanny ability to possess a thread and slowly drain the life from it with your malignant spirit cannot be denied. I am therefore prepared to deal with you accordingly.








*splash*



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Rugian
Member
Fri Aug 30 16:12:14
Anyway, no matter how many hijacking attempts are made, this thread will remain dedicated to covering HK and China's evil fuckery.

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Hong Kong protest organisers attacked by thugs
Alleged assaults with baseball bat and metal poles come as police ban march on Saturday

Alice Woodhouse, George Hammond, Joe Leahy and Nicolle Liu in Hong Kong


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Two of Hong Kong’s leading protest organisers were attacked by thugs armed with a baseball bat and metal poles in separate incidents on Thursday, sharply increasing tensions in the Asian financial hub’s worst political crisis in decades.

Jimmy Sham, the leader of the group behind the largest mass protests in Hong Kong, and Max Chung Kin-ping, the organiser of a protest in July against attacks on demonstrators by alleged gangsters, were each set upon as they went about their business in different parts of the city.

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The Civil Human Rights Front said Mr Sham was attacked in a restaurant by two masked men carrying a baseball bat and a knife. A friend who protected him was sent to hospital. Police have said they are investigating an alleged assault.

Mr Chung, meanwhile, said he was attacked in an outlying neighbourhood of the territory by four men carrying iron poles and umbrellas while he was being interviewed by a reporter. He and the reporter were taken to hospital. Police said an incident fitting Mr Chung’s description of the attack had been reported to them.

Both attacks were carried out by men of non-ethnic Chinese descent.

http://www...9c-ca32-11e9-af46-b09e8bfe60c0
The Children
Member
Fri Aug 30 16:20:00
good. beat them up.

remember they used bats and metal rods against police last week. they threaten police mens families. they beat up civilians whom they suspect are pro china.

but since ur 0.003% of the peoples, u can never win. we will beat u down hard.

_______

but since u wanna play, idiot.

why didnt u post the news that a policeman was beaten by rioters when he exited the policestation and was on his way home after a shift.

he was jumped upon and beaten by these rioting thugs who were waiting for him with baseball bats and metal rods.

remind me again what happens in the usa when a police officer is attacked.

and should the attacker kill a police officer, what happens then. a police killer is what we call such a person. is such a person still alive after that.

no, he is a walking dead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0CasxnKHoE

god damn, u like gettin roasted.
Paramount
Member
Fri Aug 30 16:29:15
”Since HKers have been denied the right of holding free and fair elections to determine their leaders,”

So they are separatists? In that case China can call in the military.

What happened to separatist in Spain? They used to get shot. And was it a year ago that Spain jailed Catalan separatists?

Spain is a democracy and they are jailing people who wants to elect their own rulers. China is not a western democracy so why can’t they rule Hong Kong they way they see fit? It’s their own city after all.
Forwyn
Member
Fri Aug 30 16:29:21
"cops should be able to beat protesters with impunity and then clock out and go home peacefully"
Paramount
Member
Fri Aug 30 16:35:00
Happens everyday in the US and elsewhere.
The Children
Member
Fri Aug 30 16:39:58
so rugiot, whose gonna pay for this shit.

http://www..._a_surveillance_lamp_post_and/

ive heard 1 lamppost is about 200k cost. they cut down 6 of them. so whose gonna pay 4 this shit, u ugly bastards.

The Children
Member
Fri Aug 30 16:46:47
cisco systems, u stupid ape. thats not a chinese company last time i checked.

thats ur company, isnt it. so whose gonna pay for that shit, u hairless ape.

Paramount
Member
Fri Aug 30 17:16:31
”protesting is one of the only avenues available to them to express their feelings on the government. And apparently, even that option is now under threat. ”


Protesting is a no no for Palestinians too who are being shot and killed, massacred by the hundreds, by Zionist Jews. I thought you approved of such thing.
The Children
Member
Sat Aug 31 00:02:58
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI6fSC9NxkI

these monsters are rabid.
The Children
Member
Sat Aug 31 06:45:55
i said who is gonna pay 4 that shitz, rugiot.
u?
Dukhat
Member
Sat Aug 31 10:11:20
Man, Rugian supporting non-white people in their fight for democracy. I'd never thought I'd see the day.

Of course, the real reason is hating on China; but I'll take it.
The Children
Member
Sun Sep 01 00:14:57
G damn, yesterday felt GREAT.

Justice was served, biatches.

The Children
Member
Sun Sep 01 01:58:19
lol american spy caught in HK.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9fL2hR4xoE

oh yeaaa cry like a baby.
Paramount
Member
Sun Sep 01 04:23:36
Maybe that was Camaban. lol
Paramount
Member
Sun Sep 01 05:08:23
Humanitarian Crisis in Hong Kong

【please spread out】



To people all around the world,

We, Hongkongers just experienced a terrorist attack planned and executed by our Hong Kong Police Force. At about 10pm today, our police force rushed into the railway system in Prince Edward station, got in to the carriage and indifferently beat up all the people in it regardless they are protesters or simply passengers. They ignored the weapon guidelines and fired pepper spray/tear gas in the carriage which is in fact lethal. Also, they beat up innocent people causing them seriously wounded. Some passengers kneeled before them asking them to stop but the response they got were beaten even harder. Meanwhile, the police haven’t arrested the passengers after. This shows that the only purpose of their brutality was to sort their anger to violence but not dispersing the crowd.

We, Hongkongers are experiencing a humanitarian crisis and we hope that people all over the world can help us in anyways you can think of. Thank you and we will stay strong.

Hongkongers

#freehongkong #chinazi

http://lea...d-out-to-people-all-around-the


1st lol: ”humanitarian crisis”. They clearly don’t know what a humanitarian crisis is.

2nd lol: ”a terrorist attack”. Lol. There was a demonstration/protests prohibition in place. It happens from time to time in the West too when demonstrations/protests derails. People who disobey the law are only troublemakers, vandalists, and are looking for trouble, and can be beaten and arrested by the police. A ”terrorist attack”, lol.


3rd lol: ”chinazi”. That was new.
The Children
Member
Sun Sep 01 05:36:25
lol these fuckin thugs have no shame. which army is gonna come to there rescue. they and whose army. any american ship gettin close will be sunk.

but the lies are too much.

here is what really happened at the MTR.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TmYf__NKC8

they were bullyin elderly people around!!!! like at the airport. but the citizens came to his rescue and they were fighting back. but ofc heavily outnumbered so in the end they got beat up.

but MTR closed all services and subways from leaving and called the cops. so these thugs were changing clothes at the station and pretended to be innocent. cops came in and started beating down.

that part was glorious to watch.


The Children
Member
Sun Sep 01 05:39:28
correct me but im never wrong. but arent communists and nazis like sayin fire ice water lol. its 2 different shits.

these people arent human anymore. clearly running dogs and spies. they can chant the us flag all they want, the only way they can get into the usa is by plainticket to mexico and pretendin and crossin the desert like a sweaty beano.

and after 10 years they can apply for a greencard as an illegal alien like the 2nd rate human that they r.


Paramount
Member
Sun Sep 01 05:56:37
If China is the nazi, then these protesters must be the Antifa.
Paramount
Member
Sun Sep 01 05:58:28
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TmYf__NKC8

^ I mean, this kind of thuggish behavior we are seeing here would not be accepted in any country.
The Children
Member
Sun Sep 01 07:05:01
thats not even all they did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82pBi7NPpHQ
Camaban
The Overseer
Wed Sep 04 01:22:09
Well, Beijing blinked before the protesters did

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/politics/article/3025641/hong-kong-leader-carrie-lam-announce-formal-withdrawal

Although the immediate response here was "four to go"

This stopped being enough over two months ago.
jergul
large member
Wed Sep 04 02:44:20
It stopped being enough once HK reached the half-way mark on its 50 year deal. Of course younger people are worried. They are likely to still have kids in school when the deal expires.

Camaban
The Overseer
Wed Sep 04 17:32:10
The deal itself has been declared meaningless by the PRC govt.

Weird that people don't trust a govt that openly declares legal agreements are irrelevant when it becomes convenient.
The Children
Member
Thu Sep 05 03:27:31
whats weird is how u pretend that the population is with these rioters and against China somehow...

stop pretending, kid.

Camaban
The Overseer
Sat Sep 07 01:19:33
Enough of them to make Beijing back down.

The CCP's position must be incredible fragile to make that happen.

You'd better hurry up and move while there's still a PRC to move to.
Paramount
Member
Sun Sep 08 03:55:57
Hong Kong protesters march to US Consulate to call for help from Trump

Hong Kong (CNN)Thousands of Hong Kong protesters waving US flags are marching on the city's US Consulate Sunday to call for help from the Trump administration in ending a three-month stand off with the government.

http://edi...tests-0809-intl-hnk/index.html


^ lol, they are not even hiding it anymore. They now wants the USA to intervene and bomb the Hong Kong authorities. Also, who gave them all those flags?
Dukhat
Member
Sun Sep 08 04:19:43
Asking for help doesn't mean just bombing. Help can come in the form of sanctions as well and many other policy levers.

We've often done it in the past to help developing democracies. Trump is just the first president to basically always side with autocrats or stay silent during democratic protests.

He is simply a piece of shit.
jergul
large member
Sun Sep 08 06:59:53
"who gave them all those flags"

They make them.
The Children
Member
Sun Sep 08 08:38:08
HK is a chinese city so any yankee ship going in will be sunk. period.

this is a sovereign matter and noone elses businezz.

those racetraitors will get what is coming to them. they have no support from the population and they know it so they aint even hiding the fact that they are after independance no more. i told yall. called it from the start.



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