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Rugian
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Fri Aug 30 10:54:14
Why is China so unabashedly evil?

This just goes to show how Hong Kongers are completely justified in their protests. Fuck. China.

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Exclusive: Amid crisis, China rejected Hong Kong plan to appease protesters - sources
James Pomfret, Greg Torode


HONG KONG (Reuters) - Earlier this summer, Carrie Lam, the chief executive of Hong Kong, submitted a report to Beijing that assessed protesters’ five key demands and found that withdrawing a contentious extradition bill could help defuse the mounting political crisis in the territory.

The Chinese central government rejected Lam’s proposal to withdraw the extradition bill and ordered her not to yield to any of the protesters’ other demands at that time, three individuals with direct knowledge of the matter told Reuters.

China’s role in directing how Hong Kong handles the protests has been widely assumed, supported by stern statements in state media about the country’s sovereignty and protesters’ “radical” goals.

Beijing’s rebuff of Lam’s proposal for how to resolve the crisis, detailed for the first time by Reuters, represents concrete evidence of the extent to which China is controlling the Hong Kong government’s response to the unrest.

The Chinese central government has condemned the protests and accused foreign powers of fuelling unrest. The Foreign Ministry has repeatedly warned other nations against interfering in Hong Kong, reiterating that the situation there is an “internal affair.”

Lam’s report on the tumult was made before an Aug. 7 meeting in Shenzhen about the Hong Kong crisis, led by senior Chinese officials. The report examined the feasibility of the protesters’ five demands, and analyzed how conceding to some of them might quieten things down, the individuals with direct knowledge said.

In addition to the withdrawal of the extradition bill, the other demands analyzed in the report were: an independent inquiry into the protests; fully democratic elections; dropping of the term “riot” in describing protests; and dropping charges against those arrested so far.

The withdrawal of the bill and an independent inquiry were seen to be the most feasible politically, according to a senior government official in the Hong Kong administration, who spoke on condition of anonymity. He said the move was envisioned as helping pacify some of the more moderate protesters who have been angered by Lam’s silence.

The extradition bill is one of the key issues that has helped drive the protests, which have drawn millions of people into the streets of Hong Kong. Lam has said the bill is “dead,” but has refused to say explicitly that it has been “withdrawn.”

Beijing told Lam not to withdraw the bill, or to launch an inquiry into the tumult, including allegations of excessive police force, according to the senior government official.

The second individual with direct knowledge of the matter, who has close ties with senior officials in Hong Kong and also declined to be identified, confirmed the Hong Kong government had submitted the report.

“They said no” to all five demands, said the source. “The situation is far more complicated than most people realize.”

The third source, a senior Chinese official, said that the Hong Kong government had submitted the report to the Central Co-ordination Group for Hong Kong and Macau Affairs, a high-level group led by Politburo Standing Committee member Han Zheng, and that President Xi Jinping was aware of it.

The official confirmed that Beijing had rejected giving in to any of the protesters’ demands and wanted Lam’s administration to take more initiative.

In a statement responding to Reuters, Lam’s office said her government had made efforts to address protesters’ concerns, but did not comment directly on whether it had made such a proposal to Beijing, or received instructions.

Written questions to China’s Foreign Ministry were referred to the Hong Kong and Macau Affairs Office (HKMAO), a high-level bureau under China’s State Council. HKMAO did not respond to a faxed request for comment.

Reuters has not seen the report. The news agency also was unable to establish the precise timing of the rejection.

The two Hong Kong sources said the report was submitted between June 16 - the day after Lam announced the suspension of the extradition bill - and Aug. 7, when the HKMAO and China’s representative Liaison Office in Hong Kong held a forum in nearby Shenzhen attended by nearly 500 pro-establishment figures and businesspeople from Hong Kong.

The question of Beijing’s influence strikes at the heart of Hong Kong’s “one country, two systems” governance, which promised the city a high degree of autonomy and wide-ranging freedoms that don’t exist in mainland China.

More than two months of protests have embroiled Hong Kong in its most severe crisis since the former British colony returned to Chinese rule in 1997.

What began as a movement to oppose the extradition bill, which would have allowed people to be sent to China for trial in Communist Party controlled courts, has morphed into a broader campaign for greater rights and democracy in a direct challenge to Beijing.

‘HER HANDS ARE TIED’

Ip Kwok-him, a senior pro-Beijing politician who sits on Hong Kong’s elite Executive Council, which advises senior officials, including Lam, told Reuters that “if the central government won’t allow something, you can’t do it.” Ip did not know about the proposal to withdraw the bill.

A senior businessman who attended the Shenzhen meeting and has met with Lam recently said “her hands are tied” and Beijing wouldn’t let her withdraw the bill. The businessman spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter.

At the Shenzhen meeting, Zhang Xiaoming, the head of the HKMAO, said in televised public remarks that if the turmoil persisted, “the central government must intervene.”

Since then, there have been signs of Beijing taking a harder line.

For instance, officials have likened some protests to “terrorism,” Chinese paramilitary police have conducted drills near the border, several Hong Kong companies have been pressured to suspend staff supporting the protests, and security personnel have searched the digital devices of some travelers entering China.

On Friday, Joshua Wong, a prominent democracy activist, was arrested, according to his political party, Demosisto.

http://www...otesters-sources-idUSKCN1VK0H6
Rugian
Member
Fri Aug 30 10:57:13
Opposition Lawmakers Held in Evening Roundup: Hong Kong Update

Bloomberg News
August 30, 2019, 6:53 AM EDT Updated on August 30, 2019, 11:32 AM EDT

Tensions spiked in Hong Kong ahead of what could be a 13th straight weekend of protests, as police arrested several top opposition figures including Joshua Wong after banning a mass march scheduled for Saturday.

http://www...-after-arrest-hong-kong-update

Fuck. China.
Rugian
Member
Fri Aug 30 10:58:43
Cathay Warns Staff to Stay Away From Hong Kong General Strike

By Kyunghee Park
August 29, 2019, 9:19 PM EDT

Cathay Pacific Airways Ltd. warned employees not to take part in a Hong Kong general strike planned for next week, underscoring companies’ efforts to limit the damage from the city’s months-long protests and avoid falling afoul of Beijing.

Those participating in the strike called for Monday and Tuesday risk getting fired, Tom Owen, director of people at Cathay, told staff in an internal memo confirmed by the airline. The carrier expects employees to report to work and will monitor attendance closely, according to the memo. It reiterated that it has zero tolerance for any support or participation in illegal protests.

“Cathay Pacific Group does not approve of this strike,” Owen said in the memo. “Any participation during working hours would be prohibited and would constitute a breach of your employment with the Cathay Pacific Group. Any breach of policy or regulatory requirements will be investigated and may lead to termination of employment.”

Cathay has become a symbol of the danger companies face in Hong Kong as they seek to steer clear of angering Beijing -- Chinese authorities imposed a swathe of demands on the airline for its workers’ participation in the demonstrations. At least seven employees have left the carrier in the turmoil and Chief Executive Officer Rupert Hogg resigned abruptly to take responsibility for the airline’s troubles.

http://www...-after-arrest-hong-kong-update

Fuck. China.
Rugian
Member
Fri Aug 30 11:03:16
Chinese military's rotation of new troops to Hong Kong garrison raises alarm

By James Griffiths and Barbara Starr, CNN

China claimed Thursday that the addition of fresh military troops to the Hong Kong garrison was simply a military rotation, sparking skepticism among US officials and widespread concern in Hong Kong, demonstrating how tense the city is ahead of a 13th consecutive weekend of anti-government protests.

Chinese Defense Ministry spokesman Ren Guoqiang said the China's People's Liberation Army troop "rotation" in Hong Kong was a "routine arrangement." China has stationed troops in Hong Kong since it was turned over to the Chinese in 1997 from Great Britain.

The spokesman said the timing of this year's rotation was "similar to previous rotations" and "was decided based on the order of the Central Military Commission and the defense needs of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region." He dodged a question about whether the number of troops and the amount of equipment have increased since the latest rotation.

The People's Liberation Army troop movements were carried out in the dead of the night and took place at the same time as a rotation of the garrison in neighboring Macao. They were announced by Chinese state media early Thursday morning.

http://www...-pla-china-intl-hnk/index.html

Fuck. China.
Rugian
Member
Fri Aug 30 11:09:23
And this part bears emphasis. In response to what have been overwhelmingly peaceful protests that have essentially boiled down to asking Beijing to "please respect the arrangement you agreed to when you took possession of us"...China has repeatedly threatened to undertake military action against the protesters, with everything from inflammatory rhetoric to thinly-veiled troop demonstrations to outright threats. Because in a shithole like China, any act of dissidence whatsoever is seen as justifying the most brutal and disproportionate acts possible.

Fuck. China.
Paramount
Member
Fri Aug 30 11:10:24
The demands:

”dropping of the term “riot” in describing protests; and dropping charges against those arrested so far. ”

It doesn’t sound like reasonable demands considering that there has been cases where protesters has lynched people, there has been vandalism, infrastructure has been destroyed, rocks and molotov’s thrown, etc.


”The question of Beijing’s influence strikes at the heart of Hong Kong’s “one country, two systems” governance, which promised the city a high degree of autonomy and wide-ranging freedoms that don’t exist in mainland China.”

What kind of freedoms do they want? Freedom to lynch people? Freedom to murder people in mainland China and not be extradicted?
obaminated
Member
Fri Aug 30 11:33:33
I'm curious how TW spins this into an anti trump thread.
Im better then you
2012 UP Football Champ
Fri Aug 30 11:48:32
It is pretty amazing that Trump has not spoken out in support of freedom.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Aug 30 12:07:19
challenge accepted

- Trump has demonstrated no knowledge of the situation showing how he's unfit for office
(see every comment he's ever made about it)
sample: "The Hong Kong thing is a very tough situation, very tough. We'll what see what happens. But I'm sure it'll work out. I hope it works out for everybody, including China, by the way."

- Trump has used China's characterizations (calling it riots)

- reportedly he told Xi he wouldn't criticize them over it, which seems accurate as he hasn't said a word of support for democracy or the protesters (unlike even Republican leaders)

- the closest he's come (after everyone else was showing support for protesters) was saying he hopes it's handled "humanely"... like how you hope the death penalty is done humanely


all Trump cares about is his trade deal, he has never cared about any American values or human rights issues

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Fuck. China. ... & Trump
Rugian
Member
Fri Aug 30 12:16:05
Paramount (henceforth to be known as "CCP Dicklicker") -

"there has been cases where protesters has lynched people,"

Lynching is an act of murder. How many people have been killed by the protestors, exactly?

As for acts of violence, there have indeed been a handful, mostly in response to like-kind acts by the police and pro-Beijing groups. Feel free to explain how those handful of bad acts are statistically significant enough to justify stomping down on and silencing a movement that has involved upwards of 2,000,000 people, representing well over 25% of the entire population. I'll wait.

"there has been vandalism, infrastructure has been destroyed,"

You mean the tearing down of surveillance lamp posts? Rofl. How evil are you to actually be opposed to that?

"there has been vandalism, infrastructure has been destroyed, rocks and molotov’s thrown, etc. "

Maybe the police shouldn't be acting as tools of Beijing and exercising violence against protestors then. What exactly is the alternative here when the cops beat up and arrest people, just lie down and take it? No.

"What kind of freedoms do they want?"

Explained in OP.

"Freedom to murder people in mainland China and not be extradicted?"

As I've said before, this is such a non-issue that Lam's government had to reference an incident that didnt even involve China at all in order to justify the Extradition Bill. And also like I've said before, Hong Kongers are fully justified in not wanting to be subject to extradition for judgement in Chinese courts, which are 110% not impartial or fair bodies.

If China wants to be treated like a civilized country where the rule of law exists, maybe it should start acting like one.
Rugian
Member
Fri Aug 30 12:16:49
Tw,

Get out.
Paramount
Member
Fri Aug 30 12:31:57
”Lynching is an act of murder. How many people have been killed by the protestors, exactly?”

It is just pure luck that none of the victims from the lynching attempts has died.



”Feel free to explain how those handful of bad acts are statistically significant enough to justify stomping down on and silencing a movement that has involved upwards of 2,000,000 people”

The authorities job job and duties is to uphold law and order. If protests goes overboard, then the police can stop further protests and even use violence/force to do so if people disobey the law.



”You mean the tearing down of surveillance lamp posts? Rofl. How evil are you to actually be opposed to that?”

Just because you don’t like something does not mean you have the right to destroy it.
Paramount
Member
Fri Aug 30 12:35:45
”I've said before, Hong Kongers are fully justified in not wanting to be subject to extradition for judgement in Chinese courts, which are 110% not impartial or fair bodies. ”


Would you be more okay if China followed the example of the US and used drone strikes to punish suspected criminals, murderes and terrorists in Hong Kong?
Williamthebastard
Member
Fri Aug 30 14:21:30
For Rugian the psychotic incel, its either lose his virginity or go on an all-american mass murder joy spree
The Children
Member
Fri Aug 30 14:25:42
rugian, are u stupid? u completely misunderstood what 1 country, 2 systems mean. HK is part of China.

Its literally ONNNNNEEEEE COUNTRY.

What China says, goes.
2 systems merely means HK has autonomy as to how they govern the city. nottin more.

anything that hits national interest, is governed by China. Period.

Just how stupid are u to think this is not the case. What u think california can rule foreign affairs without washingtons blessings.

fool.

The Children
Member
Fri Aug 30 14:32:15
u probably didnt realize that HK is a Chinese city, filled with Chinese peoples, governed and protected by China.

god damn boy. is salt lake city an american city.
oh and peacefull protests???

LOL brainwashed much. These peoples are extremely VIOLENT, extremely far right, fascists and their true goal is independence. why. becoz they were bought and paid for. by foreign powers.

sorry, u probably also think HK people actually support these peoples.

another brainwash by ur "factual independant" media no doubt.

NEWSFLASH. these rioters arent even 0.003% of HK population and the ringleaders are fleeing HK like xbot rats abandonnin a sinkin ship.

butbutbut 1/3rd of the population!!!

yea, no. only 400 retarded millenials participated in the banking run.

less than 6000 people in one of the demonstration at the park.

less than 30k people during the socalled "human chain".

And that socalled 1.7mill march was 6 football fields filled. Thats less than 80k people.

1.7mill my ass. u need 200 football fields for 1.7 mill people. people did the math. u idiots cant even LIE PROPERLY rofl.

get fuckin rekted.

they want war tomorrow. they will get crushed.
The Children
Member
Fri Aug 30 14:36:13
the gloves are off.

they wanted to kill police officers. untill cops drew a gun.

they threw a molotov cocktail from a highrise into police.

they destroyed a street filled with shops, opened them up, smashed the windows and tables.

they destroyed public lampposts becoz they claimed China was spying on them through the lampposts..

they opened it up and get this. The motherboads said ***CISCO SYSTEMS***

HAHAHA fuckin idiots. ur all gonna get rekted tomorrow.

the gloves are off. any motherfucker that shows up tomorrow will get destroyed. u will respect authority, millenial thug. traitors. ugly bananas.
The Children
Member
Fri Aug 30 14:38:50
the cia failed again. they wanted 2 create trouble for china.

instead all chinese around the world has united.

in taiwan, ugly banana andy chan was seen being bashed and humiliated by patriotic chinese peoples who recognized his ugly dog face. he probably thought he culd chill in taiwan and discuss his plans to serve the white men.

instead he got tea and coffee thrown against him and called to kneel, running dog, etc etc.

u ugly americans have failed. 30k race traitor rats have united 1.4 billion chinese and chinese mixed peoples around the world.

The Children
Member
Fri Aug 30 14:45:43
meanwhile in india

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9jd7SHFVMo&feature=youtu.be

go get rekted, white thugs. butbutbut demooocraccccyyyy???

if we give them the indian treatment, btw the brits do the same, if we give them the british/ indian treatment, ur azz aint gonna shit about it.

thats not a question.

Forwyn
Member
Fri Aug 30 14:54:17
"Williamthebastard
Member Fri Aug 30 14:21:30
For Rugian the psychotic incel, its either lose his virginity or go on an all-american mass murder joy spree"

Yeah, that really seems relevant in this thread. Cuck.
Paramount
Member
Fri Aug 30 15:12:28
Looks like there might be protests in Britain tomorrow. People in Britain wants their freedom and democracy back, so they have the right to destroy things they don’t like tomorrow.


”The public outrage at Boris Johnson shutting down democracy has been deafening. People are right to take to the streets - and I encourage everyone to join the demonstrations in London and across the country tomorrow.”

http://twi...tatus/1167462745610080256?s=21
The Children
Member
Fri Aug 30 15:16:09
damn straight, peoples throwing bricks soon.

but u see, it aint a riot. its da will of da people!

Rugian
Member
Fri Aug 30 16:01:22
And out come the pro-authoritarian trolls. I love it.

CCP Dicklicker:

"It is just pure luck that none of the victims from the lynching attempts has died."

That's like saying that it's pure luck that none of the victims of police brutality and pro-Beijing groups have died. It's a meaningless statement.

But as long as we're looking for isolated anecdotes to undermine a much larger movement, here's a bunch of people that have been driven to suicide out of depression over China's disregard for 1C2S:

http://en....adition_bill_protests#Suicides

And, again. Chinas response to the protests have been in the guise of threats of military retaliation. Which would be way more destructive than anything even the most disorderly of protestors could ever pull off.

"The authorities job job and duties is to uphold law and order. If protests goes overboard, then the police can stop further protests and even use violence/force to do so if people disobey the law."

The protests are about that government not having a legitimate mandate to govern, you fool. Since HKers have been denied the right of holding free and fair elections to determine their leaders, protesting is one of the only avenues available to them to express their feelings on the government. And apparently, even that option is now under threat.

"Just because you don’t like something does not mean you have the right to destroy it."

"People cannot fight against literal totalitarian because it might cause damage to state surveillance devices" is quite the message there. Wowza.

"Would you be more okay if China followed the example of the US and used drone strikes to punish suspected criminals, murderes and terrorists in Hong Kong?"

You mean the hypothetical murderers that dont actually exist?

And by the way, the US doesnt drone ordinary murderers on it's own territory. Stop reading whatever fake news you're currently on.

Rugian
Member
Fri Aug 30 16:03:14
WTB,

I dont even know what you were trying to say there, but I did gather from the sentiment that you're a fan of Chinese authoritarian and an opponent of free expression. Which isn't surprising given your own leanings towards fascist beliefs.

Equally unsurprising should be my decision to ignore you. Ciao.
The Children
Member
Fri Aug 30 16:03:51
ur right the us drones people in FOREIGN lands wayyyyy out of there jurisdiction and sovereignty.
they have no right to fly that shit up there.

thats even wayyyyy worse than flyin drones in ur own skies.

god damn u idiot, what a roast.
Forwyn
Member
Fri Aug 30 16:06:13
"Brexit is the same as being extradited to China for political dissent" Seb, probably

"the US doesnt drone ordinary murderers on it's own territory."

And we haven't had al-Awlaki Pt. II to my knowledge since Hussein packed his bags
Rugian
Member
Fri Aug 30 16:07:16
TC,

I see you're still basking in the glow of your victory in driving Camaban away from the last HK thread. Unfortunately for you, that's not going to happen here.

Still, for someone who's such a miserable fuck-up in so many other areas of your life, your uncanny ability to possess a thread and slowly drain the life from it with your malignant spirit cannot be denied. I am therefore prepared to deal with you accordingly.








*splash*



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Rugian
Member
Fri Aug 30 16:12:14
Anyway, no matter how many hijacking attempts are made, this thread will remain dedicated to covering HK and China's evil fuckery.

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Hong Kong protest organisers attacked by thugs
Alleged assaults with baseball bat and metal poles come as police ban march on Saturday

Alice Woodhouse, George Hammond, Joe Leahy and Nicolle Liu in Hong Kong


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Two of Hong Kong’s leading protest organisers were attacked by thugs armed with a baseball bat and metal poles in separate incidents on Thursday, sharply increasing tensions in the Asian financial hub’s worst political crisis in decades.

Jimmy Sham, the leader of the group behind the largest mass protests in Hong Kong, and Max Chung Kin-ping, the organiser of a protest in July against attacks on demonstrators by alleged gangsters, were each set upon as they went about their business in different parts of the city.

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The Civil Human Rights Front said Mr Sham was attacked in a restaurant by two masked men carrying a baseball bat and a knife. A friend who protected him was sent to hospital. Police have said they are investigating an alleged assault.

Mr Chung, meanwhile, said he was attacked in an outlying neighbourhood of the territory by four men carrying iron poles and umbrellas while he was being interviewed by a reporter. He and the reporter were taken to hospital. Police said an incident fitting Mr Chung’s description of the attack had been reported to them.

Both attacks were carried out by men of non-ethnic Chinese descent.

http://www...9c-ca32-11e9-af46-b09e8bfe60c0
The Children
Member
Fri Aug 30 16:20:00
good. beat them up.

remember they used bats and metal rods against police last week. they threaten police mens families. they beat up civilians whom they suspect are pro china.

but since ur 0.003% of the peoples, u can never win. we will beat u down hard.

_______

but since u wanna play, idiot.

why didnt u post the news that a policeman was beaten by rioters when he exited the policestation and was on his way home after a shift.

he was jumped upon and beaten by these rioting thugs who were waiting for him with baseball bats and metal rods.

remind me again what happens in the usa when a police officer is attacked.

and should the attacker kill a police officer, what happens then. a police killer is what we call such a person. is such a person still alive after that.

no, he is a walking dead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0CasxnKHoE

god damn, u like gettin roasted.
Paramount
Member
Fri Aug 30 16:29:15
”Since HKers have been denied the right of holding free and fair elections to determine their leaders,”

So they are separatists? In that case China can call in the military.

What happened to separatist in Spain? They used to get shot. And was it a year ago that Spain jailed Catalan separatists?

Spain is a democracy and they are jailing people who wants to elect their own rulers. China is not a western democracy so why can’t they rule Hong Kong they way they see fit? It’s their own city after all.
Forwyn
Member
Fri Aug 30 16:29:21
"cops should be able to beat protesters with impunity and then clock out and go home peacefully"
Paramount
Member
Fri Aug 30 16:35:00
Happens everyday in the US and elsewhere.
The Children
Member
Fri Aug 30 16:39:58
so rugiot, whose gonna pay for this shit.

http://www..._a_surveillance_lamp_post_and/

ive heard 1 lamppost is about 200k cost. they cut down 6 of them. so whose gonna pay 4 this shit, u ugly bastards.

The Children
Member
Fri Aug 30 16:46:47
cisco systems, u stupid ape. thats not a chinese company last time i checked.

thats ur company, isnt it. so whose gonna pay for that shit, u hairless ape.

Paramount
Member
Fri Aug 30 17:16:31
”protesting is one of the only avenues available to them to express their feelings on the government. And apparently, even that option is now under threat. ”


Protesting is a no no for Palestinians too who are being shot and killed, massacred by the hundreds, by Zionist Jews. I thought you approved of such thing.
The Children
Member
Sat Aug 31 00:02:58
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI6fSC9NxkI

these monsters are rabid.
The Children
Member
Sat Aug 31 06:45:55
i said who is gonna pay 4 that shitz, rugiot.
u?
Dukhat
Member
Sat Aug 31 10:11:20
Man, Rugian supporting non-white people in their fight for democracy. I'd never thought I'd see the day.

Of course, the real reason is hating on China; but I'll take it.
The Children
Member
Sun Sep 01 00:14:57
G damn, yesterday felt GREAT.

Justice was served, biatches.

The Children
Member
Sun Sep 01 01:58:19
lol american spy caught in HK.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9fL2hR4xoE

oh yeaaa cry like a baby.
Paramount
Member
Sun Sep 01 04:23:36
Maybe that was Camaban. lol
Paramount
Member
Sun Sep 01 05:08:23
Humanitarian Crisis in Hong Kong

【please spread out】



To people all around the world,

We, Hongkongers just experienced a terrorist attack planned and executed by our Hong Kong Police Force. At about 10pm today, our police force rushed into the railway system in Prince Edward station, got in to the carriage and indifferently beat up all the people in it regardless they are protesters or simply passengers. They ignored the weapon guidelines and fired pepper spray/tear gas in the carriage which is in fact lethal. Also, they beat up innocent people causing them seriously wounded. Some passengers kneeled before them asking them to stop but the response they got were beaten even harder. Meanwhile, the police haven’t arrested the passengers after. This shows that the only purpose of their brutality was to sort their anger to violence but not dispersing the crowd.

We, Hongkongers are experiencing a humanitarian crisis and we hope that people all over the world can help us in anyways you can think of. Thank you and we will stay strong.

Hongkongers

#freehongkong #chinazi

http://lea...d-out-to-people-all-around-the


1st lol: ”humanitarian crisis”. They clearly don’t know what a humanitarian crisis is.

2nd lol: ”a terrorist attack”. Lol. There was a demonstration/protests prohibition in place. It happens from time to time in the West too when demonstrations/protests derails. People who disobey the law are only troublemakers, vandalists, and are looking for trouble, and can be beaten and arrested by the police. A ”terrorist attack”, lol.


3rd lol: ”chinazi”. That was new.
The Children
Member
Sun Sep 01 05:36:25
lol these fuckin thugs have no shame. which army is gonna come to there rescue. they and whose army. any american ship gettin close will be sunk.

but the lies are too much.

here is what really happened at the MTR.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TmYf__NKC8

they were bullyin elderly people around!!!! like at the airport. but the citizens came to his rescue and they were fighting back. but ofc heavily outnumbered so in the end they got beat up.

but MTR closed all services and subways from leaving and called the cops. so these thugs were changing clothes at the station and pretended to be innocent. cops came in and started beating down.

that part was glorious to watch.


The Children
Member
Sun Sep 01 05:39:28
correct me but im never wrong. but arent communists and nazis like sayin fire ice water lol. its 2 different shits.

these people arent human anymore. clearly running dogs and spies. they can chant the us flag all they want, the only way they can get into the usa is by plainticket to mexico and pretendin and crossin the desert like a sweaty beano.

and after 10 years they can apply for a greencard as an illegal alien like the 2nd rate human that they r.


Paramount
Member
Sun Sep 01 05:56:37
If China is the nazi, then these protesters must be the Antifa.
Paramount
Member
Sun Sep 01 05:58:28
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TmYf__NKC8

^ I mean, this kind of thuggish behavior we are seeing here would not be accepted in any country.
The Children
Member
Sun Sep 01 07:05:01
thats not even all they did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82pBi7NPpHQ
Camaban
The Overseer
Wed Sep 04 01:22:09
Well, Beijing blinked before the protesters did

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/politics/article/3025641/hong-kong-leader-carrie-lam-announce-formal-withdrawal

Although the immediate response here was "four to go"

This stopped being enough over two months ago.
jergul
large member
Wed Sep 04 02:44:20
It stopped being enough once HK reached the half-way mark on its 50 year deal. Of course younger people are worried. They are likely to still have kids in school when the deal expires.

Camaban
The Overseer
Wed Sep 04 17:32:10
The deal itself has been declared meaningless by the PRC govt.

Weird that people don't trust a govt that openly declares legal agreements are irrelevant when it becomes convenient.
The Children
Member
Thu Sep 05 03:27:31
whats weird is how u pretend that the population is with these rioters and against China somehow...

stop pretending, kid.

Camaban
The Overseer
Sat Sep 07 01:19:33
Enough of them to make Beijing back down.

The CCP's position must be incredible fragile to make that happen.

You'd better hurry up and move while there's still a PRC to move to.
Paramount
Member
Sun Sep 08 03:55:57
Hong Kong protesters march to US Consulate to call for help from Trump

Hong Kong (CNN)Thousands of Hong Kong protesters waving US flags are marching on the city's US Consulate Sunday to call for help from the Trump administration in ending a three-month stand off with the government.

http://edi...tests-0809-intl-hnk/index.html


^ lol, they are not even hiding it anymore. They now wants the USA to intervene and bomb the Hong Kong authorities. Also, who gave them all those flags?
Dukhat
Member
Sun Sep 08 04:19:43
Asking for help doesn't mean just bombing. Help can come in the form of sanctions as well and many other policy levers.

We've often done it in the past to help developing democracies. Trump is just the first president to basically always side with autocrats or stay silent during democratic protests.

He is simply a piece of shit.
jergul
large member
Sun Sep 08 06:59:53
"who gave them all those flags"

They make them.
The Children
Member
Sun Sep 08 08:38:08
HK is a chinese city so any yankee ship going in will be sunk. period.

this is a sovereign matter and noone elses businezz.

those racetraitors will get what is coming to them. they have no support from the population and they know it so they aint even hiding the fact that they are after independance no more. i told yall. called it from the start.



Camaban
The Overseer
Thu Sep 19 07:36:27
>>HK is a chinese city so any yankee ship going in will be sunk. period.<<

The only people talking about that is the CCP trying to excuse its own incompetence.

>>this is a sovereign matter and noone elses businezz.<<

Except that no-one else needs to trade with HK on preferential terms. Which means that no-one needs to give HK its one trusted international trading city.

>>those racetraitors will get what is coming to them.<<

Nothing to do with race. They'd be quite happy to become part of the Republic of China if given a choice.

>>they have no support from the population and they know it so they aint even hiding the fact that they are after independance no more. i told yall. called it from the start.<<

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Actually it's quite funny. Before Beijing backed down via its puppet, the mainland media was very vocal. I just came back from there (Place has changed. Everything is either brand new or visibly crumbling. This is in a major city) and since Beijing's blink, they've gone dead quiet.

Plus, we're seeing that violent protests work.

I've got no doubt that the PLA will come in, but the CCP's hesitation and indecision shows they know exactly how damaging that'll be to them.

If the Chinese economy goes, the CCP goes. If the CCP goes, because Pooh Bear removed every last peaceful way of changing who's in power, it goes violently. Civil war in a country of 1.4 billion is very possible.

And then.... Quite possibly bye bye PRC. Hello a bunch of independent republics. Only one of which (HK, Macau and probably the greater bay area) the rest of the world will have any interest in helping ever again.

The CCP has shown that a unified China can't be trusted. As a by product of burning every last bit of international goodwill the PRC had.

Really need to emphasise this, though:
Currently, the protesters are winning.
Beijing has blinked.
And when Beijing gets the balls to do something, they'll have really won. HK will outlast the PRC.
Camaban
The Overseer
Fri Sep 20 01:44:40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHBfZ2FsGDs

'Carrie Lam has “lost all will to govern,” says former Hong Kong chief'
The Children
Member
Fri Sep 20 05:13:37
camapig, what u still doing there. nathan law already fled to yale, the rest of u cockroaches will face jail.

the whole of HK hate u cockroaches.
u denying this.
The Children
Member
Fri Sep 20 05:35:05
god damn, how do u live with urself man. u must be one frustrated little toddler in a grown mans body.
Camaban
The Overseer
Sat Sep 21 05:35:21
>>camapig, what u still doing there<<

Earning a shitload of cash.

You should try it. It's fun.

>>nathan law already fled to yale, the rest of u cockroaches will face jail.<<

Seems unlikely.

I have white privilege.

>>the whole of HK hate u cockroaches.
u denying this.<<

What would you know? You've spent a week in this region as a tourist.

>>god damn, how do u live with urself man. u must be one frustrated little toddler in a grown mans body.<<

Well, if there were any issues (there aren't) earning a shitload of cash certainly would help salve the burns.

But there aren't. I'm loving it here. This is history being made. Potentially the beginning of the end of the PRC.

And when I leave, it'll be with an even more rarified skillset to whatever financial capital I like and a very interesting appearance in interviews.

TBH, the only real issue with this place is its incompetent government. That's so bad the CE has lost the will to govern.

Three months plus and all she can think to do is talk to random people about things she's already going to refuse to do.

That's the height of incompetence. PRC supporters must be incredibly thin on the ground if she's the best puppet they could find.
Paramount
Member
Sun Sep 22 01:32:09
”Earning a shitload of cash.”

Do people even use cash anymore? I have used a plastic card with a computer chip on it for years.
The Children
Member
Sun Sep 22 13:14:40
camabn u ugly cokroach, u want me 2 report u.
u know damn well whats going on right now in HK and how little support they have.

u seeing all the violence and destruction and u standing behind it. that means ur a foreign spy if u do not condemn it.

Camaban
The Overseer
Mon Sep 23 17:41:28
I do condemn the violence and destruction.

But the police here are largely kids, and frankly, they're in that position because the politicians failed. So I can understand.

The politicians do have very little support. They've failed. Pooh Bear and Piglet both.
The Children
Member
Thu Sep 26 14:43:06
u condemn nottin, fool.

the cockroach rioters use kids as frontline shields. what do u say 2 that, biotch.

Camaban
The Overseer
Tue Oct 01 03:54:03
That it sounds about as legitimate as the CCP claiming that the US instigated all this.

The sort of thing they'll claim whether it's true or not.

I did join in on a protest chain. People of all ages. Cars honking in support as they drove by. People looking cheerful at them.

Also walked through today's crowd to go to the ferry. Perfectly peaceful, as is the norm when there are no police around.

Massive, massive crowd though. Stretched as far as the eye could see. Never seen anything remotely like it wearing white.
Camaban
The Overseer
Tue Oct 01 04:07:25
A protester has been shot in the chest with a live round by a police officer.

That's a potential disaster.

It's been complete insanity to keep the police armed. Not counting people falling off things at the start, there's been no deaths whatsoever. This is a huge escalation.
Paramount
Member
Tue Oct 01 05:45:19
Well, what do you think happens when rebels attacks the police, civilians and are vandalizing a city?

There were some riots in Gothenburg in 2001 when violent antifa people throw stuff at he police too. Guess what happened? The police had to defend themselves and shot a rioter.
Camaban
The Overseer
Tue Oct 01 06:03:36
The simple answer to that is no-one cares about the whataboutisms.

The facts remain as stated. The only people who care about what happens in some random uninvolved country are people trying to defend the indefensible.
Paramount
Member
Tue Oct 01 06:06:59
Perhaps the police feared for his life, or his colleagues lives, so he had to shoot the violent rebel.
Paramount
Member
Tue Oct 01 06:11:53
”The simple answer to that is no-one cares about the whataboutisms”


Of course they do. What about this and that? That’s all people care about.
Camaban
The Overseer
Tue Oct 01 06:28:43
Idiots sitting in a circle jerk trying to tell themselves the side they support is OK do. Your choir was going to attend anyway.

But let me know how it works out on the overall care factor.
Crownroyal
Member
Tue Oct 01 06:32:15
President Trump has a message today for the 'unabashedly evil' country

http://twi...tatus/1178986524630802432?s=19
Camaban
The Overseer
Tue Oct 01 06:44:11
Yeah, on the one hand there's that.

On the other hand, there's the trade war.

That last has been fantastic for here. This and that were the last thing Xi needed to happen at the same time.

And now even getting bipartisan support on bills intended to help HK.

This is uniting both sides of Western politics.
Paramount
Member
Tue Oct 01 10:35:37
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-49891403

You can see how the rioters are swinging at the police with iron bars. Sure it sucks for him to be shot, but hey... here's a tip: don't attack armed riot police with iron bars. The police has actually a right to use lethal force. Especially when they are being attacked by violent thugs.
Camaban
The Overseer
Wed Oct 02 08:20:28
You say that like it matters to anyone that matters.
Paramount
Member
Wed Oct 02 10:35:56
”A protester has been shot in the chest with a live round by a police officer.”

You say that like it matters to anyone that matters, i.e. the authorities in Hong Kong and mainland China.
The Children
Member
Wed Oct 02 12:40:06
he shulda aimed for the head. away with these cockroaches.

told yall that camaturd is a cockroach rioter. he even admitted himself now lol.

those people wouldnt hesitate one bit in beating the snot out of ur wife if they know she is from the mainland and here u are joining them becoz ur a ugly disgusting rat.

yellow vests riots have dozens of deaths, eyes blinded, hands blown off, people in coma etc.

guess what, thats what happens when u grab a weapon and attack riot police.

HK police have been TOO SOFT already. citizens around HK have been callin for live ammo for months.

it is even more distatstefull becoz people here dunt know whats going on but being fed cnn propaganda and other western bullshit media.

but u kangaroo, u are right there and u see all the violent cockroaches destroying everything and terrorizin citizens and ur still a white pig who joined them.

ur a stinkin cockroach.
Camaban
The Overseer
Thu Oct 03 06:41:10
>>You say that like it matters to anyone that matters, i.e. the authorities in Hong Kong and mainland China.<<

They don't matter.

The opinions of the Chinese people as a whole don't matter.

TC's never mattered, so we're consistent here.

THe opinions of China's trading partners matter deeply.

Then when the PRC fucks up and they join in the trade war (China's economy isn't healthy and the developed world does see helping China to be a huge mistake that won't be repeated) and the Chinese people start to lose what they've built up over those hard decades...

That's when the opinion of the Chinese people will start to matter. When we'll see the downside of having no peaceful method of changing government.

In ten years, there'll be a Hong Kong.

PRC... Much less likely.

Pity TC only spent four days there. Looks like he's about to lose his chance.
Camaban
The Overseer
Thu Oct 03 06:43:10
Oh, they're looking at introducing a facemask law, and talk of a curfew.

I'm sure the people of HK will respect those laws at least as much as they respected the protest ban.

I see stuff like this and it looks like the govt here has no idea what to do, and is just trying random shit to see what happens.
Camaban
The Overseer
Thu Oct 03 07:12:39
When reading this, remember it was written in 2017

https://www.scmp.com/comment/insight-opinion/article/2078342/think-again-beijing-carrie-lam-wrong-person-lead-hong-kong?fbclid=IwAR2TfodgdzPOQxTdLMEwNoZW9LUHAXl7O9VTCgQlVszZe_ku6Ls-SkC_5m8

Think again, Beijing: Carrie Lam is the wrong person to lead Hong Kong out of the political storm
Tom Plate believes the central government should back John Tsang, the leader the people want, rather than the mediocre and unpopular Carrie Lam to be the SAR’s next chief executive

Does the Chinese Communist Party possess the political wisdom and emotional range to handle the many difficult challenges that catch the world’s eye?
Since the 1997 handover, the special administrative region of Hong Kong has been in the limelight. On the whole, its new life under Beijing’s absolute sovereignty has not gone badly: People’s Liberation Army troops are not befouling the streets, as much of the Western media once all but predicted; the economy sails along, and this dandy gem remains one of the world’s most iconic metropolises ... up-and-coming Shanghai notwithstanding.
An election is coming at the end of this month that could put all this at serious risk. Indications are that the winner, and thus Hong Kong’s next leader, will be Carrie Lam Cheng Yuet-ngor, the former chief secretary, because the Xi Jinping (習近平) government prefers her, and because Beijing pulls enough weight within the city’s Election Committee – the elite group of electors that chooses the chief executive – to get what it wants.
Beijing’s heavy lobbying for Carrie Lam as Hong Kong leader could backfire, academic warns
What evidently it doesn’t want is former financial secretary John Tsang Chun-wah, or anyone capable of even semi-independent leadership. Like the former British colonial government, the Chinese like their Hong Kong leader tame and lame.
Yet, this capable and likeable civil servant is running strongest in the public opinion polls (by as much as 14 percentage points by one estimate). But Tsang will not be the next chief. This anomaly arises becasue Hong Kong’s “election” method is not the basic one-person, one-vote deal; it’s “democracy” of a filtered sort.

Hong Kong is not alone, by the way, in using a bizarre intermediary system that dilutes voters’ sentiment. Mathematically simple, one-person, one-vote systems are not everyone’s cup of tea.
Even the United States selects its No 1 via a patchwork quilt of 538 electors collected from its 50 states. Sadly enough, this crazy system has the talent to select as the winner a candidate who failed to win a majority of the overall votes. In 2000, George W. Bush was second to Al Gore by 543,895 votes. In 2016, Donald Trump was second to Hillary Clinton by 2,868,691 votes. Now the world, you see, will just have to learn to live with this “loser”.

Is the Hong Kong system for selecting its leader so categorically different? By the end of the month, the 1,194-member Election Committee is to produce, by majority decision, the next chief. Mathematically, that is close to one elector per 6,000 people; by comparison, the US has one elector for every 600,000 people. Choose the system you like better.
Ten years ago, in Singapore, the late Lee Kuan Yew was wondering about Hillary Clinton, who at that time looked a slam dunk to become US president someday. How good was she? I shot a glance at the university colleague with me in Lee’s office at the Istana, the government palace, and we agreed: she’s good enough. Lee mulled that over: “Good enough? Well, good ... Because anyone you elect president, we in Asia have to live with.”
Similarly, anyone selected by Hong Kong as its next leader, the rest of us will have to live with. This means that if the leader is popular and can govern well and keep relations with Beijing steady, we are all winners. Then, Hong Kong stays the shining jewel and avoids turning into ... a Taiwan in diapers.
But if the next leader is problematic – whether incompetent or in other ways – then it becomes an international problem and we are all losers, especially relations between China and the US, as American public opinion of China will very probably sour.
Lack of popular mandate would make it hard to govern Hong Kong, Carrie Lam admits
Let’s look at Beijing’s record in pulling the strings. The about-to-leave Leung Chun-ying, widely disliked, is publicly unimpressive but is almost a paradigm of the ideal for Beijing: an administrator who takes orders. His predecessor, Donald Tsang Yam-kuen, was a distinctly capable technocrat but, due to the recent conviction for malfeasance in office, finds himself in a jail cell in Stanley Prison, praying that his lawyers can come up with a miracle. The first post-handover chief executive, Tung Chee-hwa, was booted out by public pressure in 2005. Wile he remains civically active and in Beijing carries on as vice-chairman of the Chinese People’s Political Consultative Conference, he was also far more of an administrator than a leader.
It’s a near certainty that none of Hong Kong’s first three chief executives will be crowned by history as great Chinese leaders, in the company of Zhu Rongji ( 朱鎔基 ), Zhou Enlai ( 周恩來 ) and others.

Accordingly, Carrie Lam would seem to fit nicely into this unthreatening tradition of mediocrity – as John Tsang very well might not. “Don’t rock the boat” is the course Beijing wants. But probably what it will get instead is the opposite: endlessly turbulent political waters that will sink a hapless Lam, as they have Leung and Tung.
Since taking over in 2012, the Xi government has made a number of commendable decisions. This is not one of them. Is it too late to switch Beijing’s fateful finger of favouritism to Tsang? For, in pushing Lam over Tsang, Beijing is playing a losing game. You’d hate to see Beijing make a major blunder in its custody of Hong Kong. But such appears to be looming. Please think this one through again, Beijing.
The Children
Member
Thu Oct 03 12:29:13
ugly cockroach camaban roaring his butt ugly head again.

are u readin this guys. cockroach camaturd thinks hk

"In ten years, there'll be a Hong Kong.

PRC... Much less likely.
"

>> this retarded kangaroo has completely lost it.

oh btw if there was actually any doubt at all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmRdLMAUROE

we all know it. try that shit in the usa...see how many of them are left to run away. answer: ZERRRROOOOOO

cops wouldve emptied all the clips.
FACT


Paramount
Member
Thu Oct 03 13:02:23
I’m suprised at the extreme restraint that the Hong Kong Police has shown. And then all the shit the police gets despite of it. It is ridicilous.

Camaban should just kill himself, or join the attacks on the police and let them do it for him.
The Children
Member
Thu Oct 03 13:18:38
there is propaganda warfare going on here, make no mistake.

these cockroaches and antichina people have been sharing these videos where they edit and clip out the rest and only show the little fragment where cops has to take action.

and they spread these hatevideos in order 2 create false news and influence people around the world.

thats why the police gets shits. but as u can see, hk police have been very restraint so far. in france they have almost 10x the casualties and complete media silence. we all know why.

i already seen 1 video which was about a few hours after news broke out that a cockroach was shot by HK police.

immediately those cockroaches were going to the streets and throwing paper burning money. in chinese culture, u throw burning money when someone has died (maybe u seen it in a movie) and spreading false news around that kid was dead. making a whole media circus threatening government with war becoz of 1 dead blah blah yada yada.

they were so eager to make him a martyr. to serve there cause. with friends like these lol. that stupid cockroach is being used like the puppet that he always was.

too bad for the rest of the world however, becoz we aint so lucky to have him die. he is stable and survived.

but u can see how much false news gets spread around. they learned from the best. there lying, cheating and stealing masters.
Paramount
Member
Thu Oct 03 13:39:15
In the video you posted the terrorists are even throwing a petrol bomb that almost lands at their terrorist buddy who lays wounded on the ground. Maybe they really wanted one of their own to die to have a martyr.

It is also ridicilous that people then apparantly has complained that it took three minutes for medics to tend to the wounded terrorist. Well, if there are terrorists still around, and if the attack is ongoing with petrol bombs, of course the medics are not going to enter the scene.
The Children
Member
Thu Oct 03 13:57:06
here another vid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGz08RbHiQE

look at them beat down hk police. and they still dunt fire.

they attack police van, they out for blood.

in any other country, these cockroaches wouldve been darwins awardwinners already.

and here is another cia agent exposed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHj8kcCbHCE
look at those god damned cockroaches attackin ordinary people.


smart dude
Member
Thu Oct 03 13:59:06
"I can still taste the doritos"

you've exposed yourself, fraud. Stop trolling.
The Children
Member
Thu Oct 03 14:09:42
shut ur vermin mouth, ya snake.

______________

Also look at how ridiculous these lying cockroaches are.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8jJ6xgOoWM

rofl look at all the lies.
Paramount
Member
Thu Oct 03 14:43:55
It looks like Youtube is censoring HK videos. Normally, if I click on one single video of... let’s say about the universe, I get tons of recommendations of similar videos. If I click on a cat video I get spammed by more fking cat videos. But now after I watched a couple of videos of HK rioters I don’t get a single recommendation of more similar videos. Youtube obviously got orders from the CIA to not promote videos that shows the true nature of the HK riots.
Paramount
Member
Thu Oct 03 14:54:44
Meanwhile in another American democratized state:

Thousands of protesters clashed with riot police in Iraq's capital and across the south on Thursday, the third day of mass rallies that have left 28 dead.

http://afp...s-across-iraq-28-dead/a/VbL9kW
Camaban
The Overseer
Thu Oct 03 19:32:05
Still funny to watch the two idiots not understanding that none of the excuses they're trying to make matter. Can't understand simple concepts.

This is a PR war. There's a trade war going on. The Chinese economy is fragile.

And only perception matters. Not amongst the Chinese people - They don't matter at this stage, but amongst a West that's already had enough of China, it matters a huge amount. Particularly with the weak economy.

Sure, we might go into a recession. We'll vote out some people, vote some new ones in, and life will go on. Here.... There is no peaceful way of changing government.

I'd also like to give a big shout out to South Park. Not much for humour, but 10/10 for message. If they weren't banned in China before, they sure as shit are now.

And obviously, can't forget Winnie the Pooh's contribution to killing off a(n almost) united China. Bet he really wishes he'd selected someone more competent than Piglet now.
The Children
Member
Fri Oct 04 01:29:53
camatard went completely apeshit crazy like the bald ugly monkey that he is.

u hate china so much, wtf are u doing in HK, u stupid pig. go back home.

rofl@perception matters
trade war
economy fragile
had enough of china

China is not some toy u throw into a corner after ur done with, u ugly stupid pig. u might think ur whole lotta shit coz ur white but in reality ur an insignificant vermin.

china has been part of the world longer than ur country existed. and will always be part of this world long after ur country has ceased to exist.

they been writing and telling stories about china since ur great great great great forefathers were still stealin and whorin in great britain before there great great great great grandchildren got send off to prisonisland aussieland.

LOL get rekted.

oh butbutbut economy fragile. sure, i guess 6% growth, the highest in the world is the most fragile in the world meanwhile ur shit country has switched governments 8 times in the last 10 years and cant even build a simple bridge in under 10 years but ur doing so swell, i guess!!!!

hahaha

idiot cockroach.
The Children
Member
Fri Oct 04 07:27:31
this is what camapig is fighting for. a lawless HK.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xT20AXPT9QI

who is that white guy closing the door and purposely blocking the dude from leavin so he can get beat up.
is that u, ugly piggie?

hmm?

notice how he did notting from the start. here is the full translate.

guy on his phone notices cohroach press spying on his phone.

asks him what he is doing and which press he is.

loudmouth said "none of ur business", "why should i show u my press card" (i know, almost too crazy for words, he spied on the dudes phone under pretext of press and wont even show his card).

guy proceeds to walk away while being pushed and harassed.

at the door, he screams, "we are all chinese people"

while the mob frantically chants "go back to mainland".

at the door, he is blocked by white pig. then rioters beat him up.

HK is collapsed becoz we allowed too many white piggus like camatard in, we fed them, gave them jobs, gave them freedom, gave them hospitality, but secretly they were brainwashing us and created this mess we are in right now.

so these thugs were all free press and they arent rioters, funny how they managed to orchestrate everything in tandemn.


Camaban
The Overseer
Fri Oct 04 07:32:42
TC's so ranty here it's not even worth reading over his posts.

He'd probably have a better understanding of China if he'd spent more than the barest, most minimal amount of time he could get away with.

As it is, it looks like this is the only thing is the closest thing he's got to something to be proud of in his entire failed life.
The Children
Member
Fri Oct 04 08:30:22
camaturd is a frikkin pathetic piece of trash whose sole accomplishment is to flee his own shithole.

now he is a bitter angry pathetic piggie whose only real adventure is to wear a mask and pretend he is fighting for truth and justice.

god damn, when the pitchforks come, we will come for u too.

u ugly piggie.

ofc u wunt ever see these cohroaches respond to any of the violence in any videos that i posted, which are how many now. i lost count. 20?

God damn, u ugly piece of shit. u got owned.
Paramount
Member
Fri Oct 04 10:55:07
”Still funny to watch the two idiots not understanding that none of the excuses they're trying to make matter.
This is a PR war.”


If it is a PR war, then it matters to explain that the Hong Kong police are in the right, and that the antifa-like rioters are thugs.
Most can already see this. Everyone will eventually see this as their thuggery continues.


”only perception matters. Not amongst the Chinese people - They don't matter at this stage, but amongst a West”

Do you think the West cares a whole lot if cornered and outnumbered police officers shoots some violent thugs on the streets who are attacking the police and other citizens with iron bars and petrol bombs? I think that’s wishful thinking on your part.

The West ran to China to make business after the Tiananmem Square protests.

As long as the thugs are attacking people and property on the streets, the West isn’t gonna do shit except to say: ”pls calm down”. And if the thugs are gone from the streets, you’ll have the normal demonstrators left. But China is not going to accept all or any of their demands.

It may be why you are desperate now (realizing that you are starting to lose the ”PR war”) that you start talking about South Park and Winnie the Pooh like it matters. How many people are even watching that shit? Winnie the Pooh? Lol.
Camaban
The Overseer
Fri Oct 04 19:21:53
All of that is countered by that people are aware of what the HK people are fighting against. It's not just the HK police, but the whole PRC.

>>Do you think the West cares a whole lot if cornered and outnumbered police officers shoots some violent thugs on the streets who are attacking the police and other citizens with iron bars and petrol bombs? I think that’s wishful thinking on your part.<<

Who are trying to avoid being sent to a country that harvests organs? Yep/

>>As long as the thugs are attacking people and property on the streets, the West isn’t gonna do shit except to say: ”pls calm down”. And if the thugs are gone from the streets, you’ll have the normal demonstrators left. But China is not going to accept all or any of their demands.

It may be why you are desperate now (realizing that you are starting to lose the ”PR war”) that you start talking about South Park and Winnie the Pooh like it matters. How many people are even watching that shit? Winnie the Pooh? Lol.<<

Being anti PRC is something that's managed to unite the Democrats and Republicans.

That's looking like winning.

And that next Tian'anmen square will be live streamed to the world. They're incredibly sensitive about the last for a reason.
The Children
Member
Sat Oct 05 00:57:32
"Who are trying to avoid being sent to a country that harvests organs? Yep/ "

>> rofl, usa has death penalties and harvests opium.
u live in narnia in a made up fantasyworld where u pretend china is evil and ur fighting good.

ur a deluded little pig

"Being anti PRC is something that's managed to unite the Democrats and Republicans. "

>> oh and we should be scared now becoz?
americans are racists and hate rival powers becoz it threatens there empire. what else is new.

"nd that next Tian'anmen square will be live streamed to the world. They're incredibly sensitive about the last for a reason. "

>> and this is why u do it. becoz ur a perverted little sick fuck who wants to see tanks roll down and end violent cohroaches and hooligans.

and u think the rest of the world gives a damn.

u and which hypersonic missile.

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"It may be why you are desperate now (realizing that you are starting to lose the ”PR war”) that you start talking about South Park and Winnie the Pooh like it matters. How many people are even watching that shit? "

>> indeed he is. Well said.
The Children
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Tue Oct 08 12:50:13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPYuGYLesx0

The Children
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Tue Oct 08 12:50:29
fuck u cohroach camaban. fuck u.
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