Utopia Talk / Politics / Trump taking away your freedoms

Paramount rank	Thu Sep 12 18:18:47 2019 Trump plans ban on sale of flavoured e-cigarettes US President Donald Trump has announced that his administration will ban flavoured e-cigarettes, after a spate of vaping-related deaths. There have been six deaths ... http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49667688 Six people has died and Trump is already planning to take away your freedoms and ban e-cigarettes. Well, just like guns, e-cigs don’t kill. Is is people who kill.
Forwyn rank	Thu Sep 12 18:47:12 2019 Nanny-state New York values cuck kowtowing to big tobacco
Average Ameriacn rank	Thu Sep 12 18:53:16 2019 I have never seen the Marlboro man vaping. Is vaping un-American? Did the trend start in China or Africa or where does it come from?
State Department rank	Thu Sep 12 23:58:41 2019 Meanwhile, someone dies every 66 seconds due to cig smoking.
kargen rank	Fri Sep 13 00:30:22 2019 I see one of two possible solutions neither of which will be considered by government. Either ban all tobacco products and make e-cigs available by prescription only for those addicted to nicotine or stay out of peoples lives and let them put into their bodies what they want. And you are correct e-cigs do not kill. Using them other than intended can kill though.
hood rank	Fri Sep 13 03:47:29 2019 There is no conclusive evidence that ecigs don't kill.
kargen rank	Fri Sep 13 04:00:42 2019 hood is correct. They may eventually find that using the product as intended will kill. If/when they do then one of the two responses I posted should be the action taken. I vote for government staying out of it for the most part. The companies shouldn't be able to hide that their product is dangerous but once we know the possible consequences it should be up to adults to choose for themselves.
hood rank	Fri Sep 13 04:15:30 2019 As long as they're willing to pay out their asshole for medical care, since they become an undue burden on society.
Forwyn rank	Fri Sep 13 05:29:44 2019 "There is no conclusive evidence that ecigs don't kill." Congratulations, a negative hasn't been proven.
Forwyn rank	Fri Sep 13 05:41:49 2019 http://imgur.com/gallery/fZpdNCw
tumbleweed rank	Fri Sep 13 06:10:27 2019 Melanie has a son & she's concerned about it, so whaddya gonna do http://twitter.com/HelenKennedy/status/1171887010015059968
Paramount rank	Fri Sep 13 07:30:07 2019 ”They may eventually find that using the product as intended will kill.” I doubt it. They still have not found out that using a gun as intended will kill.
hood rank	Fri Sep 13 07:41:44 2019 No, clinical retard. There's pretty clearly evidence that tobacco isn't good for you. Any argument that ecigs are somehow magical and prevent tobacco related harm would need to be proven scientifically. There's a reason insurance companies don't care whether you vape or smoke, they still charge you extra.
kargen rank	Fri Sep 13 08:50:56 2019 "They still have not found out that using a gun as intended will kill." Sure they have. Everybody admits guns when used correctly can and do kill. Hunters kinda depend on that happening. The disagreement is that the guns are creating mass murderers. The mass murderers would be there whether there was a gun or not. Just like people will find a way to vape THC oils even if government bans the use of e-cigs. When prohibition passed people didn't say well fuck guess I'm sober from here on out.
Paramount rank	Fri Sep 13 17:13:59 2019 ”Sure they have. Everybody admits guns when used correctly can and do kill.” In that case they should change their slogan ”Guns don’t kill people” to ”Guns kill people”.
kargen rank	Sat Sep 14 03:26:22 2019 Doesn't matter the slogan the truth is people intent on killing others will find a way. But for your slogan to be accurate it would need to be "guns don't kill people, people sometimes use guns to kill people."
tumbleweed rank	Sat Sep 14 07:46:43 2019 "guns make killing people much easier"
Forwyn rank	Sat Sep 14 18:53:58 2019 "nukes make killing people much easier"
kargen rank	Sat Sep 14 22:50:53 2019 nah there are easier ways. Guns let you be more selective though.
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