Utopia Talk / Politics / Dallas Badgethot Guilty

Forwyn Member	Tue Oct 01 13:15:32 A Dallas County jury on Tuesday convicted fired police officer Amber Guyger of murder for fatally shooting Botham Jean in his apartment last year. Cheers broke out in the hallway outside the courtroom after the verdict was announced shortly after 10:30 a.m. Testimony in the punishment phase of Guyger’s trial will proceed this afternoon, with another round of jury deliberations to come after that. In Texas, murder carries a sentence of five to 99 years or life in prison. The charge is not eligible for probation. Guyger, 31, fatally shot 26-year-old Jean in his apartment last year. She had said she mistook his apartment for her own and thought Jean was a burglar. She is the first Dallas officer convicted of murder since the 1970s. Jurors began deliberating Monday afternoon after the prosecution and Guyger's defense presented closing arguments. They delivered their verdict after about five hours of deliberations. After hearing the verdict, Guyger stood still until the jury left. Then, she sank into her chair. As state District Judge Tammy Kemp read the verdict, Jean's mother, Allison Jean, leaned her head back. Her daughter, Allisa Findley, slumped in her seat, put her face in her hands and wept. Midway into the verdict, a woman in a red dress in the gallery cheered and clapped her hands. A bailiff immediately yelled "no" and she was quiet. Once the judge was done and called a recess, Allison Jean's face crumpled as she stood and put both hands in the air. Walking out of the courtroom, she said, "God is good. Trust him." Lee Merritt, an attorney representing the Jeans, said the family would testify during the punishment phase of the trial. Jean's grandmother raised her right fist in the air as she left the courtroom. More than two dozen bailiffs lined the courtroom and the hallway outside. Patches on some of their uniforms indicated they were with the tactical unit, though they had no extra gear. At one point, one bailiff asked another whether they had enough people to handle the crowd. "No," another responded. The crowd in the hallway after the verdict was boisterous but not unruly. When prosecutors walked out, people gave them a round of raucous applause and cheers. In the hallway, Guyger's mother was shaking. Guyger left the courtroom about 15 minutes after the verdict. She'll be back when the sentencing phase of her trial begins about 1 p.m. After the verdict, Ben Crump, an attorney for the Jean family, said 26-year-old Jean was a "near perfect" person. "This jury had to make history in America today, because Botham was the best that we had to offer," Crump said. "Twenty-six year old, college-educated black man, certified public accountant, working for one of the big three accounting firms in the world, PricewaterhouseCoopers." "But it shouldn't take all of that for unarmed black and brown people in America to get justice," Crump said. Crump said the verdict wasn’t just for Jean and his family. “This verdict is for Trayvon Martin," he said, "it’s for Michael Brown, it’s for Sandra Bland, it’s for Tamir Rice, it’s for Eric Garner, it’s for Antwon Rose, it’s for Jemel Roberson, for EJ Bradford, for Stephon Clark, for Jeffrey Dennis, Genevieve Dawes, for Pamela Turner.” “O’Shae Terry,” interjected Merritt, who also represents the Jeans. “For so many black and brown unarmed human beings all across America,” Crump continued, holding Allison Jean’s hand in the air, "this verdict today is for them. Everybody can raise their hands — this verdict is for them. This verdict is for them.” Outside, on the steps of the courthouse, activists began celebrating shortly after the verdict was read. Safiya Paul, a St. Lucian immigrant like Jean, was wrapped in the blue, yellow and black flag of the Caribbean nation. Paul and another activist, Tamara Neil, were in the courtroom when the verdict was read. Neil said the hallway after was "full of joyous energy." "This is how you celebrate a black life," Neil said. "Can you imagine how big Botham is smiling right now? Like, his life really mattered. ... At last we can stand in the same room as justice." "Yes!" Paul shouted. "God, it feels good," Neil said. "If he was here what do you think Botham would be saying right now?" "He would be singing," Paul said. Before the verdict, as their deliberations entered a second day, jurors were given the option to consider the "castle doctrine," known as Texas' "Stand Your Ground" law. The law was clearly on their minds first thing Tuesday morning. An attorney for the Jean family, Daryl K. Washington, told reporters that the jury sent two notes to state District Judge Tammy Kemp, asking for clarification on the charge of manslaughter — they had a choice of murder, manslaughter or outright acquittal — and for more information about the castle doctrine. "If Amber Guyger is allowed to use that defense ... what would've happened if Botham would've shot her for coming into his home?" Washington said, citing the jury's question. "Would he have been able to use the castle doctrine?" Testimony stretched across six days after the trial began Sept. 23. Jurors had heard from officers who responded first to the scene the night of the shooting and watched how they frantically tried to save Jean’s life. They also heard from people who lived at the apartment complex where Guyger and Jean lived, as well as testimony from a medical examiner, a crime scene analyst and the Texas Rangers' lead investigator for the shooting. Guyger's defense team had urged the jury to think "coolly and calmly" about the case, which they cast as a tragic mistake. They have said Guyger made a "series of horrible mistakes" that led to her shooting Jean out of fear for her life. But the prosecution said arguments of self-defense don't apply to Guyger because Jean was not a threat. They said Guyger had other options besides killing Jean and that she acted unreasonably by failing to notice she wasn't at her apartment. Here's a look back at a few key moments during the trial: Guyger was her defense team's first witness when she took the stand Friday, telling jurors how she would always regret the night she killed Jean. The prosecution suggested she cared more about herself that night. The Texas Ranger who led the investigation into the shooting told jurors how common it was for apartment residents to wind up on the wrong floor of the South Side Flats complex where Guyger and Jean lived. Of the 297 residents his team interviewed, 46 had walked to the wrong floor and put their key in a door that wasn't their own. The Ranger, David Armstrong, said outside the presence of the jury that he believed Guyger was reasonable when she shot Jean and that he didn't believe she committed a crime. (He was the law enforcement officer who obtained her arrest warrant on a manslaughter charge.) The prosecution showed a series of explicit texts Guyger and her married police partner, Martin Rivera, had exchanged the day of the shooting. The state tried to argue that Guyger wasn't tired that night, but instead distracted by possible plans they said she had to meet up with Rivera. Jurors also saw body-camera footage of the frantic attempts officers made that night to save Jean, who lay dying on his apartment floor. http://www...urder-for-killing-botham-jean/
CrownRoyal Member	Tue Oct 01 13:35:56 "Before the verdict, as their deliberations entered a second day, jurors were given the option to consider the "castle doctrine," known as Texas' "Stand Your Ground" law." What a doctrine. Even if you entered another man's castle, it still applies. Maybe they ought to change the name of this doctrine
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Oct 01 13:46:28 i'll guess 6-10 years sentence (article says 5-99 for murder in Texas, this seems like it would be a low-end version)
Sam Adams Member	Tue Oct 01 19:59:06 Probably hired based on womens hiring quotas. Thanks seb.
patom Member	Wed Oct 02 05:45:15 Should have been manslaughter. But I guess in todays world this is to be expected.
Sam Adams Member	Wed Oct 02 10:13:36 Should definetly be capital murder. Dumbasses should be culled.
kargen Member	Wed Oct 02 11:38:53 "“This verdict is for Trayvon Martin," he said, "it’s for Michael Brown, it’s for Sandra Bland, it’s for Tamir Rice, it’s for Eric Garner, it’s for Antwon Rose, it’s for Jemel Roberson, for EJ Bradford, for Stephon Clark, for Jeffrey Dennis, Genevieve Dawes, for Pamela Turner.” “O’Shae Terry,” interjected Merritt, who also represents the Jeans. “For so many black and brown unarmed human beings all across America,” Crump continued, holding Allison Jean’s hand in the air, "this verdict today is for them. Everybody can raise their hands — this verdict is for them. This verdict is for them.”" What a huge crock of shit that is.
BigDickNegro Member	Wed Oct 02 15:16:57 kargen read this: http://www...sages-emerge-sentencing-trial/ When a white ex-Dallas police officer recounted her thinking as she fired the two shots that killed an innocent black man in his own living room last year, she told a jury it was fear, not racism, that drove her to pull the trigger. “This is not about hate,” she testified in court Friday. “It’s about being scared.” But after a jury convicted Amber Guyger, 31, of murder Tuesday, prosecutors introduced text messages sent by the former officer that show her making offensive statements. In the texts, Guyger jokes about Martin Luther King Jr.’s death, mocks her black colleagues and discusses a dog that her friend warns “may be racist.” “It’s okay.. I’m the same,” Guyger wrote back about the dog, just days before she fatally shot 26-year-old Botham Jean in his Dallas apartment on Sept. 6, 2018. One minute later, she texted again: “I hate everything and everyone but y’all.”
Sam Adams Member	Wed Oct 02 16:28:52 10 years only. Riot time!
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Oct 02 16:46:54 it wasn't done out of malice, seems fine to me... i'll guess paroled in 6 to make my guess perfect (<- a proper use of the word)
Forwyn Member	Wed Oct 02 18:23:11 Ideally Botham would have been strapped, killed her and gotten no-billed by the grand jury. But 10 years ain't bad for what probably should have been manslaughter...especially with it being a cop with a black victim.
Kilo Member	Thu Oct 03 10:44:06 Not surprised by the verdict. She going to the bigtime jail or the community jail?
smart dude Member	Thu Oct 03 14:05:13 It is a women's prison. They will teach her how to sew and cook. And when she gets out she will arrange a scheme to cut a guy's dick off just so she can go back. Or her plan will backfire and she will win a Nobel Peace prize instead.
Kilo Member	Thu Oct 03 18:47:31 She'll get a number 1 selling book deal when she gets out.
kargen Member	Thu Oct 03 18:52:35 BigDickNegro still a crock of shit. Not saying she was or was not racist. I am saying this does nothing for those other cases. The others either got justice or they did not and this case has nothing to do with the outcome of those. All the loved ones of those other dead are now suppose to celebrate what happened to the others because of this verdict. That is stupid.
Cherub Cow Member	Sun Oct 13 03:25:05 In case you were worried that the Guyger verdict meant that police would no longer be murdering people in their own homes, here's this uplifting story: "Woman killed in own home when Fort Worth officer shoots her, police and witness say" http://www...rt-worth/article236067328.html "Officers responded at 2:25 a.m. to the house in the 1200 block of East Allen Avenue. James Smith, who called a non-emergency police number, said he saw the doors were open and the lights were on, which struck him as unusual. He knew Jefferson, his neighbor, was home with her 8-year-old nephew. ... Body-worn camera video police released shows two officers using flashlights to check the perimeter of the house, inspecting two doors that are open with closed screen doors. At the back of house, one officer appears to see a figure through a dark window, and he quickly twists his body to the left. “Put your hands up! Show me your hands!” he shouts through the window, his gun drawn. He then fires a single shot through the window. In the video, he does not identify himself as an officer. Jefferson was playing video games with her nephew when they heard what they believed to be a prowler outside, her relatives’ attorney said. When she went to the window to see what was going on, she was shot, the attorney said. ... Police released photographs of a gun they said that they found in a bedroom at the house. They did not say whether Jefferson was holding the weapon when the officer shot her."
Paramount Member	Sun Oct 13 05:07:05 What would have happened if the woman shot the police, thinking it was an intruder and who he didn’t identify himself as a police officer on duty? Americans really needs to buy more guns and start to shoot people who is approaching their homes and fails to identify themselves. Its either that, or they themselves might be dead! What would you choose? Do you want to die or do you want to live?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Oct 13 11:52:42 calling the cops should be considered attempted murder & attempted animal cruelty playing video games w/ a kid w/ the doors open at 2am is a bit weird though... i'm sure we'll get exhaustive information on her drug use
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Mon Oct 14 09:11:40 Something equally atrocious happened in Sweden a while back. Three police officers empties their guns on a mentally retarded man holding a toy gun. The female cop missed (I can't help the lulz) every shot (about 3-5 meters), so she was never indicted. The other 2 were found not guilty in trial.
Forwyn Member	Mon Oct 14 11:45:37 "playing video games w/ a kid w/ the doors open at 2am is a bit weird though" I wouldn't even say it's weird, young aunt who wants to be cool, the weather is fucking amazing in FTW right now (like 70° F), so no surprise they cracked the doors on a Friday night for a nice breeze.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Oct 14 21:15:20 the cop resigned and now is charged with murder
obaminated Member	Mon Oct 14 21:52:19 Wildly inappropriate to have an 8 year old up that late to play video games. The bitch had it coming.
hood Member	Mon Oct 14 22:22:04 ^ that better just be poorly delivered humor.
obaminated Member	Mon Oct 14 23:17:58 I thought it was delivered with a dry rapist wit.
hood Member	Tue Oct 15 00:05:57 I mean, can it even be rape if it isn't dry?
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Tue Oct 15 05:09:10 Not if it is a legitimate rape. The pussy will dry up and shut it all down. God thought about everything when he created us.
jergul large member	Tue Oct 15 05:23:08 Whatever you need to tell yourself nimi.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Tue Oct 15 07:39:26 I did not make this up, so don't blame me. I am just the messenger, peace be upon me.
Rugian Member	Tue Oct 15 08:38:02 Look, if a rape is a legitimate rape, the female body has ways of shutting that thing down. If OTOH the woman got wet and pregnant from the ordeal, then she probably wanted it.
jergul large member	Tue Oct 15 09:45:50 Nimi I am only saying that I see why you need to believe that to be true.
RugianLovesTheCock Member	Tue Oct 15 12:12:04 Except I wouldn't possibly entertain this notion. As cock is always preferred.
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