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Mon Oct 07 09:05:07
I always knew!!!!!


The Fake Nazi Death Camp: Wikipedia’s Longest Hoax, Exposed

For over 15 years, false claims that thousands of Poles were gassed to death in Warsaw were presented as fact. Haaretz reveals they are just the tip of an iceberg of a widespread Holocaust distortion operation by Polish nationalists
By Omer Benjakob Oct 04, 2019

“The first gassing there took place on October 17, 1943, killing at least 150 Poles caught in a street roundup and about 20 Belgian Jews …. Bodies were either cremated in crematoriums or open-air pyres (including at a former sports stadium) or simply buried under collapsed buildings during the systematic demolition of the former ghetto .... [Some estimates] place the number of the camp’s victims well above 212,000, mainly Poles and several thousand of non-Polish.”

This dry description of the systematic murder of ethnic Poles by Nazi forces during World War II was taken from the English-language Wikipedia article for the “Warsaw concentration camp,” also known as Konzentrationslager Warschau. The site where the camp stood is an object of pilgrimage for some in Poland, who hold periodic ceremonies on what they believe is hallowed ground. They come to honor the memory of thousands of Poles murdered in a gas chamber located near the Warsaw West (Warszawa Zachodnia) train station – which still exists – and have even erected monuments and plaques in their memory.

There’s just one problem: No such death camp ever existed. There is no historical evidence of German gas chambers ever existing in Warsaw, and nowhere near 200,000 people died in the cluster of Nazi internment centers that did stand at the basis of the myth of KL Warschau.

“It’s fake history,” says Prof. Havi Dreifuss, a Tel Aviv University historian and Yad Vashem’s expert on Poland and the Holocaust, when asked about gas chambers in Warsaw. Other Holocaust historians share her unequivocal position: “It’s a conspiracy theory,” says Prof. Jan Grabowski, a Polish-Canadian historian from the University of Ottawa, when asked about the legend behind the death toll. Yet both claims appeared, almost without interruption, for 15 years on the English-language version of Wikipedia in what is said to be Wikipedia’s longest-standing hoax.

[article is very long, read rest at link]
Mon Oct 07 10:58:30
I wonder what else is fake about the holocaust.
large member
Mon Oct 07 11:48:42
Poland lost 1/5th of its population. Getting the details wrong hardly matters (though it is important to remember that half those that died were Jewish).
Mon Oct 07 17:25:14
While true, the Poles in recent years started to become very shady, nationalistic, and dodgy regarding their role in the death of many of their Jewish population. So this schtick isn't surprising.
large member
Wed Oct 09 07:49:00
"many" is an odd word to use. Even the post war pogroms had dead measured in scores, not millions.

As for collaboration. It is very hard to beat what Hungarian Jewish leaders inflicted on that Jewish population in exchange for a few 100d exit visas to Turkey.

Perhaps look as that shady, nationalistic and dodgy piece of historical misrepresentation before throwing stones elsewhere.
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